Another Perspective
We had a couple of Nate-related diaries yesterday, one regarding his relationship with Jarrett Jack (and by implication, Sergio) and the other quoting Rudy Fernandez about his concern about a relationship with Nate. In the discussion surrounding each a theme was echoed that has been brought up many times this season, here and elsewhere: is Nate biased against certain players or for others to such an extent that he's letting it affect his basketball decisions? Having read plenty of implications and outright accusations to that effect I wanted to offer a different perspective. Put yourself in the shoes of Nate McMillan. How would you deal with such accusations? What would they mean and how would they affect you?
I should preface this by saying I am not claiming to know what Nate thinks or even really what his shoes are like. I have not spoken with him since last year's Summer League and that conversation was completely professional and not at all personal. I don't know Nate or what goes on inside his head. (None of us do, which is half of the point.) I am taking a half-educated guess here based on being a fellow human being and also having both a job and a hobby that exposes one to a fair amount of public critique, some of which is completely fair criticism, some of which is shamelessly unfair. I am under nowhere near as bright a spotlight as Coach McMillan is, but I think it's possible to draw some parallels between his situation and other high-pressure callings.
Pretend with me for a minute that you are the Blazers' coach. You have a young point guard from Spain that you picked up as a project. You like his skills, you've seen enough from him to give him some playing time, you think someday he could be a regular contributor, but right now he just hasn't shown you enough to crack your rotation. He's young, raw, and has a lot to learn before he can man the point for you. You're not entirely thrilled with your other point guards either. Both could be better. But after seeing all three in practice and under fire in your best basketball judgment each of the latter two guards contributes more to helping your team win, which is your main goal. So you play them more than the first guy. And so far your instincts appear to be pretty solid, as your team is winning at a far greater pace than in previous years...a far greater pace than was expected from you.
Let's assume this is the case, as it seems far more likely than many of the scenarios I've heard. No more, no less...no conspiracies or ulterior motives...just a simple basketball judgment.
But now, having made this decision, you have to deal with the reality that the first point guard is a cult fan favorite of sorts. You get asked about him a lot by the media. The buzz is starting to go around town about why he's not playing. Part of the fan base is starting to accuse you of making biased decisions. Either you irrationally favor the latter point guards or you irrationally disfavor the fan favorite. At times this has gone to the point of people accusing you of being prejudiced against players of the fan favorite's nationality. Now you notice through the accusation's repetition and you not responding the idea is starting to gain traction. So how would you answer such claims?
You know what? You can't. Not if you're a person of integrity. That is what makes the pointed finger so powerful, and so unfair.
Why is there no effective way to answer? First off, because basic logic tells us that in a non-factual matter there is no way to prove a negative. Someone can throw accusations of bias at you all day long. How do you prove you're not? There is no litmus test for non-bias.
Are you going to use statistics? You could. They're freely available to all. And plenty of them show that what you're doing has some merit. But in case you haven't noticed the statistics that matter most to people are the ones that prove the point they already believe in. Whatever statistical angle favors their argument is the one they'll highlight. A small-sized crack is enough to keep the argument going. You could get into a back-and-forth about it but unless the statistics are so overwhelmingly slanted towards one way or the other that there's no real argument it's a complete waste of time. And if the statistics were weighed that far this wouldn't even be a discussion.
Which brings up a second, and more important point, which is how appropriate is it for you to respond at all, in any way? You might be able to defend yourself with the stats. You could probably shed even more light by sitting down at a microphone and giving folks a blow-by-blow of all the reasons the fan favorite isn't getting more minutes. Of course that wouldn't satisfy the hard-liners, but at least the majority of the middle-of-the-road folks would understand. But at what cost? Say what you want about Nate, but he has NEVER been in the business of dragging his players through the mud in public. Exhibit 1A is Zach Randolph, who more or less submarined this team the last couple years he was here...something which more people can admit now that he's out of our uniform and in New York. This wasn't news to anybody in the organization. Even the first-year players knew it. But to this day, in the face of all that, we STILL do not know what Nate McMillan thought of Zach Randolph. We saw him chew him out in games a little. We might have heard hints of Zach's difficulties in Quick Chats and stuff. There were probably one or two media-motivation proclamations that we needed Zach to be more of a leader. But at no point, during or after Zach's tenure, did Nate sit down and say, "This is what is wrong with this player."
If he would not do that with Zach, a multi-year, multi-million dollar veteran who probably could have borne up just fine under such treatment, how in the heck is he going to do it with a struggling, second-year player? You will not hear Nate impugn Sergio statistically, anecdotally, or in any other way. I don't believe he would break that trust with any of his players for any reason. The only thing you will hear perhaps is him pointing out the good things that Jarrett does. That's as close as he can honorably come to letting everybody in on the reasoning...honorable because it is positive about a player and not negative. And even so, that only brings more accusations of favoritism.
It is absolutely possible to get stuck in a situation where your only choices are to defend yourself at the cost of giving up what's right and what you believe in, or to keep silent and suffer completely unfair slings and arrows, no matter how many of them may strike. And ironically you are suffering those slings and arrows specifically to protect the people that folks are accusing you of being biased against! (And to protect the integrity of your relationship with them.) It is possible that this is just such a situation. I don't know if it is. I can't tell you. Only Nate could and he's not talking. But if it is, I wonder, if you and I put ourselves in Nate's shoes--if we had worked years to get into this position, if we had what people widely acclaimed as one of the keenest basketball minds in the business, if our plans seemed to be succeeding, if we had pride in our work, and if these claims were coming from the very people who were supposed to be rooting for the team we were helping succeed--if you and I were really in that situation would we have the strength to keep our mouths shut and do what was right? Or would we break down and answer these accusations the way they would be in a perfect world?
I suspect this is why the majority of "inside" basketball people will tell you they never read fan sites...not because they would deny that intelligent, meaningful things can be found there, but because they have to avoid them to keep their sanity.
The only other thing I want to touch on is the "racism" issue. I will offer a stronger caveat here that I have zero, zero, ZERO idea what I am talking about, having never been anything but Caucasian and male. I am trying to do an impossible thing, which is to put myself in the shoes of somebody I am not discussing a subject I've never experienced. But to the extent I try this foolish thing, speaking only for how I'm guessing I'd feel, I'd say this accusation would be the most egregious, astounding, and frustrating of all. I'm guessing that in some small part of my heart I would be tempted to sit down and spell out all of the times I had experienced prejudice, how I understood those wounds intimately, and how anyone would think I could turn around and do that to another person--how they DARED to speak such a thing--was beyond me. But why? Why after all of my personal and professional success should I have to spell that out? Who do I have to prove myself to? Who has the right to call me to account on that score? Why should I have to define myself publicly (under these circumstances, not of my choosing but in the face of wild accusations) as an African-American coach in the shadow of prejudice instead of just being a great coach, a respected coach, for whom being African-American should have positive connotations? Why, in the name of all that's good and right, should I have to show my bona fides through a game of "Who's been more disadvantaged?" reducing such things to yet another statistical battle, when the things I've overcome, and my job, and my life, and my integrity mean so much more than that?
Speaking just as Dave again...I think you'll understand when I say that in my view such an accusation debases us all. It's a sad reality that people are able to say such things so cavalierly. There's no accountability. Obviously you can't prove non-prejudice any more than you can prove non-bias of any sort, so there's no definitive way to answer that will end the conversation, and in our world continuing conversation and repetition are often taken as evidence.
Speaking as Dave the co-author of Blazersedge I'll say that the specific accusation of racism based on a coach not playing a second-year, back-up point guard with a ton of grey area in his game stinks to high heaven. In fact that leaves such a stench in my nostrils that I am willing to enforce accountability here for it. People don't get to lob such serious accusations at fellow human beings (and our coach IS a fellow human being) with such flimsy evidence and use this site to do so. That's pretty much the antithesis of what we're supposed to be about. Thankfully I can't recall a recent incident where it was mentioned specifically on this site but it will not be allowed.
Personally I don't think the general bias for/against players (any more than any other coach) holds any more water than the more egregious accusation. There are people that do, and so be it. We can all live together. However I will say that this has been mentioned several times now and had its own diaries and everything. Nothing more will be solved, resolved, explained, proven, or illuminated by continued repetition. It's a dead-end discussion by its very nature. So having read the diaries and had a chance to respond, that subject is now going to get a rest around here for a while...a long while.
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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at one point in the season
I don't really think he's a racist anymore, its just that he may see thing's from a different perspective that many of us see it. The "obvious" seem correct to us, because all we get to see are Games, but Nate could have an entirely different perspective. Even the assistant coaches have a different perspective from Nate, and he is sometimes open to listening to them as well (when they pushed Nate to play Sergio).
Whatever Nate decides to do its fine wit me, but I do appreciate it when he takes the time to explain himself. He has done it a few times, and has admitted he has made mistakes as well. I just wish that Nate would explain himself a little more often, granted we are just fans and he doesn't really need to answer us.

To get explanations
--Dave
i kinda wish

by Philthyanimal on Mar 18, 2008 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Ben pretty much
--Dave
post game audio

by Philthyanimal on Mar 18, 2008 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
i can start posting this
i have every postgame session going back to december if you would like to dig through my archives :)
by Ben Golliver on Mar 18, 2008 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
nah.

by Philthyanimal on Mar 18, 2008 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
racist?
No offense, and you're not the only one, but where does that impulse even come from? That's great you changed your mind, but how the heck did that thought get so credible to you, that you even became aware of it? Nate has never had a quick hook with anyone and Jack was the starting point guard; he is younger and has more potential as well (than Blake).
There are a thousand more credible reasons than racism to explain McMillan's rotations, the most obvious one being its smart basketball. Anyone who thinks its racism that is eating Sergio's minutes is blind. The dude taking his minutes is an even whiter guy, Steve Blake.
Sergio isn't ready, and Nate shouldn't have to risk losing basketball games he doesn't have to in the middle of a playoff hunt just to satisfy people that he's not a racist. He shouldn't have to 'explain himself' when he doesn't give big minutes to someone who at this point in his career is clearly not ready.
This whole thing is ridiculous.
Bravo!
I like the distinction
--Dave
Good post Dave
My frustration as a fan, is being left in the dark concerning some of Nate's decisions. Scores of people on this site criticized Nate for not playing Joel in 4th quarters. Eventually, Nate started playing Joel in 4th quarters. Why did it take him 6 weeks to finally see what everyone else had been seeing? None of us have played in the NBA for 13 years and coached for 5 more, but we could see we were giving up too much on interior defense late in games.
If Nate can be wrong in one thing, who's to say he isn't wrong about something else? That is why there is nothing wrong with having an opinion, even if it is a bit critical at times. I agree with you though, that some opinions can go too far.
It can be said, "Well that's the coach's decision and fans really don't have any place to question that, because they don't know what goes on behind the scenes." That being said, we fans definitely do see what is going on during the games, and many are left to scratch their head as to why Nate has made the decisions he has made(myself included.) I for the life of me, can't figure out why Steve Blake has taken Joel Pryzbilla's place as the forgotten man on the bench during the fourth quarter.
True, you can't please everyone in life, nor should you live your life trying to do so. However, I believe a coach does owe an account to their bosses and to the fans who pay to watch the games. Coaches can explain their decisions and do so in a way that does not out their players. McMillan did that concerning Frye playing over Przybilla in the 4th quarters. He never criticized Joel. He instead tried to explain the positive things he felt Channing had to offer.
I don't see a problem
--Dave
it took awhile

by Philthyanimal on Mar 18, 2008 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
The other thing
--Dave
very true

by Philthyanimal on Mar 18, 2008 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions
also
there is nothing good for the team in that.
As someone has pointed out over at O-live,
Now if you were concluding that Nate didn't play Sergio because of racism, you'd have to say that Sergio's own country didn't play him because of racism. And how ludicrous does that sound?
Maybe the truth is closer to the fact that Sergio is still young and learning, and not ready to play significant minutes unless the games are meaningless. The irony is that it seems that conclusion may have been drawn by his own country.
He was playing behind Calderon
You expect me to believe Calderon played
I'd have to check the numbers but I'm pretty sure that's not the case.
by Blazerholic on Mar 18, 2008 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Crying time !
college age level for many years. It's the
sense of entitlement that the younger generations
have been displaying for many years now. They
think they are owed a start or minutes when
they haven't earned them.
Sergio's backers are myopic and therefore have a myopic, irrational hatred of anything or anyone standing in the way of his acension to the NBA hall of fame. To bad he can't play defense, shoot 40 % from the field or 70% from the line. He's not physical or consistant and most of all he DRIBBLES WAY TOO MUCH.
Basketball fact: The ball moves faster by the
pass than the dribble.
* Use the dribble to break down your man to
make the defense react or overreact !
Our Dave is an ethicist and a
I totally agree
As an admitted racist (I hate haoles)
I have lived in Alabama, met a member of the KKK, and been exposed to anti-haole racism in Hawaii. I have seen racism first hand, and the distribution of playing time, based on team needs and player strengths, is not racism. Thinking Nate is a racists is so ridiculous that I do not feel it deserves addressing. It is so offensive and closed minded that it is racist in its own right.
There is no room for racism in the NBA, in the Blazer's organization, or in their culture. To somehow think racism is a factor in playing time is disrespectful to the players, the coaches, and the organization. Let us never speak of this subject again.
I think that
I can't say anything about this post
Weak
by fatwansaboni on Mar 18, 2008 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Weaker
As I have said before
--Dave
just a thought...
the fact that dave gives out his personal email address for you to communicate directly and unfiltered with him is more than most companies offer and well above the standard for websites. even if you disagree, try to appreciate the time and effort he is putting in here and the access he is granting to you.
it is no small sacrifice.
by Ben Golliver on Mar 18, 2008 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed, and thanks
--Dave
In general
by fatwansaboni on Mar 18, 2008 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Question?
by tominhawaii on Mar 18, 2008 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Racism? Really?
Other than not using Raef and his six hard fouls often enough I don't have any gripes with Nate's substitution patterns.
I don't doubt
Nope, I don't exclude the possibility of Nate having preconceived or non-objective opinions regarding assessment of our players. It could explain some of his seemingly irrational P.T. decisions. Another explanation would be that he's simply not the best judge of talent (that's KP's forte). And finally there's the far more unlikely explanation that we fans may be the ones lacking in talent judgment .... as unlikely as that seems.
Irrational
The other frustration is that we are sitting above .500 right now when some people expected us to win 20 games this year. How is Nate failing this team?
Well, I think Nate's
Although I did use "SEEMINGLY irrational" perhaps mystifying would be a less harsh word to describe the measly 18 minutes or so Nate was giving to Joel most of the earlier season, and his current penchant for sitting Blake in the 4th quarter in favor of Jack, even when Jarrett was playing terrible, et cetera.
Nice Post Dave
Go Nate!!
my two cents
nate will occasionally make comments that might be perceived as negative about a few players, but it's solely used as motivation and he generally only speaks publicly about those players he knows will be able to take it. he will often say things about brandon and lamarcus that he would never say about jack or sergio.
the most i've seen from nate this year is a telling smile and a shake of the head in response to sergio questions. i interpreted this as "sorry, but he's just not ready, it's not even worth discussing right now." i don't take that as dismissive, i take it as evidence of a strongly-held and tested judgment.
i don't know nate to be racist one way or the other (who besides nate could know this?), but i do know that after all he has given us as fans we owe him MUCH BETTER than to make accusations like that. i also do know that he is a much better coach than to make decisions based upon something like race.
PS... in my opinion, nate will end his career as a Hall of Fame coach. and i'm not the only one around the rose garden that thinks so.
PSS... after Saturday night's game, nate left his press conference and, rather than leaving directly, took time to shake hands with and sign an autograph for a VERY excited looking (white) teenage blazers fan. nate asked him a number of questions, didn't rush through the experience and looked at all times like you would expect: classy, dignified, friendly.
Thinking outside the coaching box
it's probably much more than 15-20
If this is true,
Dave may end up pulling a Nate here, and not reveal that information, because that really could stir up a debate which is not only off topic, but could end up quite inflammatory. People have passionate views on religion, which can get ugly quickly.
Instead, let's go off topic into something far less inflammatory, like politics. Politics is far less likely to be offensive to people. Right?
"Christians are not critical thinkers"
P.S.
Being a seminary student,
Here I go again. Too much philosophy and social commentary, not enough basketball. Er. GO BLAZERS!
Here is Jscot's comment
Place THIS comment right above the "if this is true" one and you have the thread right. Sorry for the inconvenience.
--Dave
If Dave is a pastor, then he probably knows something about having to do something, and NEVER, NEVER, NEVER being able to explain why. To explain why would be to betray confidences. It probably happens in Dave's work from time to time.
This is exactly right. Sure, I would like to hear more "why" answers from Nate. But if there are good reasons, I'm glad he isn't giving them publicly. That's the kind of thing that leads to a top-notch organization.
If we want good players to come here, we don't want the reputation of an organization that criticizes players in public.
TEAM
Nate explained a PG needs 5 years
Sergio should have waited more time before he decides to to come to NBA. He should have shown his dominance in Spain and Europe before to come, as Rudy is doing this year. He shew his dominance in an European junior championship, but that is not enough.
In 2004/2005 ACB season Sergio doesn´t appear between the best 15 players in any kind of stats, except shot percentage shootinf for two points.
http://www.acb.com/stsindiv.php?cod_competicion=LACB&cod_edicion=49&cod_fase=LR
In 2005/2006 ACB season Sergio doesn´t appear between the best 15 players in any kind of stats, except assits (4th) and TO (2nd).
http://www.acb.com/stsindiv.php?cod_competicion=LACB&cod_edicion=50&cod_fase=LR
Rudy appeared eight times between the best 15 in different stats of 2005/2006 and he appears 8 times this season 2007/2008: second in efficiency with 24 points (7 points far from the third); first in points; fifth assisting; second stealing; 8th dunking; 2nd in three pointers; second in FT; and third in times fouled.
http://www.acb.com/stsindiv.php?cod_competicion=LACB&cod_edicion=52&cod_fase=LR
In the Spanish National team Sergio has been the 3 PG. Carlos Cabezas played better defense and usually played as the primary backup to Calderon because the lack of confidence in Sergio´s defense by the coach.
I like Sergio, I want to see Sergio playing more time, developing his play, learning defense, showing how good he can be,... I think he will be a very good PG in NBA. I become nervous when I see JJ doing mistakes while Sergio is in the bench. But I can´t say Nate is wrong when he doesn´t play Sergio. I can´t disagree, that´s all.
You can even
And you did it with civility. Well done. Usually, when I disagree with myself, I take myself outside and bang myself's head against a wall.
But I usually end up forgiving myself.
You know I can disagree
I think also you should try to bang yourself's head against a wall, to bring out the man behind that brain, before Pigmalion, your brain´s playing role, devours that man.
Great post
Very well done!
by Blazerholic on Mar 18, 2008 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Nate has a very good reason to play Sergio
This discussion is actually making me long for a diary on how we can steal Chris Paul from New Orleans...
Look at the Big Picture
And on the Joel thing. I don't know why Joel sometimes got left out during the fourth. Who knows... But a thought could be that playing Frye more minuites at the beginning of the season has allowed Joel the ability to last all 82 games. I don't thing he's lasted a full 82 in the previous 2 seasons. Also, Nate was able to see if Frye would be able to handle the pressure situations of the fourth, while providing more offense of the court. It was fine until we started losing more. And now you see Joel's minutes up, and Frye's down. Don't underestimate the value of having 25 minutes of Joel for 82, instead of 30 for 60 games. I know he has some nagging injuries, currently, but he's showing the young guys what it takes to last 82 games, and his performances the past couple weeks can't help but inspire the rest of the team. If he's playing more at the beginning of the year I don't think Joel lasts the whole season.
I think Nate has done a great job solidifying a rotation and as much as we'd like him to coach perfectly each and every night, he will make mistakes. But to think that Nate is in any way prejudiced of players because of there race or nationality is crazy. And to use a term "racist" is a heavy label that nobody should lob out there without some real evidence. If we only had 22 wins this year I'm sure the likes of McRob, Wafer, and Sergio would be playing more. Who knows, Darius might've been activated.
Thanks Dave for the great work you always do. Now I'm to get my prefunk on to watch us eclpise the Suns tonight. Just win, b-roy!
by greenras on Mar 18, 2008 12:31 PM PDT reply actions
Racism and other sins
- Coaches deliberately tanking games
- Oden carelessly injuring his knee
- The Blazers holding Oden out a year to gain a lottery pick
- Corrupt refs
- Players labeled as "soft" for sitting out injuries
Although I fully support Dave's zero-tolerance policy in this area, I wonder what the difference is between dumb, baseless accusations of racism and dumb, baseless accusations of other terrible things?
Let's all hope for a time when being racist will make one no more and no less than an ordinary idiot.
by Engineering Problem on Mar 18, 2008 10:53 PM PDT reply actions
I agree that an accusation of racism is wrong,
How many accusations are made about Zach Randolph that are far worse than suggesting a coach favors one player over another? Many, often by Dave himself. It seems the difference is that Dave has decided that the bias accusation is not true. But it's not a few crazy people who think it is true, it's lots and lots of people. This is one of those interesting situations where whatever your opinion on the matter it requires that you think someone is biased, Dave just happens to think it's me, or SergioFTW, (Mike Rice? Kevin Pritchard? Jason Quick?)or many others rather than Nate, and he's said so.
I had honored Dave's request not to bring this up, but I thought since he had done so it was reasonable to respond.
by EnglandDan on Mar 18, 2008 11:07 PM PDT reply actions
Technically
Just wanted to clear that up.
--Dave
We both know what the truth is Dave.
by EnglandDan on Mar 19, 2008 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

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