Diaries
I read through the diaries today and while most of the conversation was just as intriguing as usual we need a reminder about etiquette.
- If Blazersedge is the bar where everybody knows your name then a Diary is like your table. Folks are sitting around the table to have a conversation about a topic. It's the height of rudeness to bust in and start discussing something else right in the middle of the conversation. It's also rude to sit down and insult somebody there. Neither is permissable. Often discussions stray to tangents (sometimes humorous) that stem from the original conversation. That's just the fun of conversation between friends. But starting off-topic is not allowed.
- I'm as neurotic about grammar as anyone here but let's ease up on the spelling critiques and the fights that stem from them. Not everyone has English as their first language and not everyone grew up in the same way. If you can read it, deal with the subject. If you can't, skip it.
- Personal attacks are not allowed in the diaries any more than they are allowed on the main page.
- You are allowed to switch screen names at Blazersedge but to keep the integrity of the conversation each name needs to be distinct. In other words if you adopt a new name, give up the old one. Using two or more names and switching back and forth is heavily discouraged. If I see you using two screen names in the same conversation both will be banned. This is a place where real people like to have real conversations.
- As we've mentioned before, there is limited space for diaries on the front page. Please limit yourself to two on the page at any time unless, of course, breaking news (like a trade or something) necessitates an immediate posting. Taking up 10% of the site's attention should be enough for anyone.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
P.S. Just to clear up any misunderstandings before they start... This has zero to do with decent debate or conflict. Good conflict and back-and-forth over ideas is highly encouraged. You don't have to agree with people. You just have to disagree over things that are on-topic and that matter. You also have to present yourself well enough so that the rest of us can weigh in on the debate fairly.
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I understand
People in kind here but it takes
We also may think that some "attacks" are better than indifference, so may be grateful because someone takes his time to attack us. I think Timbo will agree with this sentence.
In Spanish we use this saying (I´m teaching Spanish culture here lately): "to go into a place as an elephant in a glassware shop".
In America
--Dave
When you say
I disagree
I would be willing to engage in conversations with some of them if there was a chance of turning the sinners from the errors of their ways. It would be a shame to consign anyone to a life of following that team. Perhaps some of them can be redeemed.
I´ll wait to try until knickfan
Dave, you throw a great party,
by ojala on Mar 17, 2008 1:01 AM PDT reply actions
No problem
--Dave
Thanks for takin' the time to keep things in line.
by DaveR @ Blazer's Edge on Mar 17, 2008 1:02 AM PDT reply actions
the level of discourse
well, dave, things change. people come and go. few of the most frequent posters were here last year at the time of the draft.
I´m two, too
As one of the best looking folks who visits BE
Actully
As for diaries, I miss the good ole' discussion days. Now it feels like:
- 5% Miscellaneous
- 10% Seattle Sonics
- 40% screw this season, I can't wait for Oden and Rudy
- 45% point guard discussion, that somehow becomes heated and personal (I am including blaming Jack for a loss and how do we move up to draft Rose in this group)
yup
I haven't been real happy lately
I understand we want to encourage people from all walks of life to post. But quite frankly, I'm tired of umpteen PG conversations and diaries that people put no thought into, like "rudy will be the greatest player ever. what do you think?"
I will take some countermeasures myself. I can't really take the time anymore to wade through all these diaries, so I'm going to focus on diaries written by certain people. And I will read the main page and post diaries of my own from time to time. So I'm not asking for anything to be done. It is what it is, the good with the bad.
It's funny how I can look back at Blazer Thoughts with nostalgia, even though the team wasn't doing that well...
I remember fatty saying
Oh well...
by bothteamsplayedhard on Mar 17, 2008 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I mentioned in someone's diary
--Dave
Blazerholic,
There are way too many superfluous diaries and they are too numerous for me to read anymore. I used to review pretty much all of them but now, in the interest of saving time, I pick and choose based mostly on the author and/or meaningful sounding topics.
I wonder also why more don't use Dave's game recap thread to post their comments regarding the most recently completed game instead of doing so via a new diary. I think this would reduce considerably the number of diaries posted and allow those of interest and good quality to remain on the diary list longer.
And like you, I miss the 'thoughtful' Blazer Thoughts days.
Thanks for the affirmation
Maybe Dave is right and this is just a hiccup. But I think we'll see more frequent bursts as Oden gets ready to play and Rudy comes over to sit on the bench.
But again, thanks for making me feel like I'm not just a loose canon.
I'm sure there will be
I think it's fair to keep conversation guidelines fairly high and to enforce that, but the cost of being fairly firm on those things is giving people leeway to prove themselves. On a site where people get banned and reinstated on a regular basis--such a regular basis that it becomes a running joke--you don't have to worry about applying the penalty. It's just a slap on the wrist anyway. Here if the hammer comes down it comes down hard, and in most cases permanently. That requires a little more restraint.
Believe me, I suffer as much as anyone when people are being foolish around here. But that's the price of ensuring we have a real community and not just one that conforms to me or my way of thinking.
--Dave
You are the
I can see it now if he takes over: To become credentialed to post on Blazer's Edge you must ...
Naah
Some of the newer posters sound like kids. I have no problems with kids when they put thought into what they say - I remember last year being surprised to find one of our regulars was still in h.s. I don't see his name much anymore, but I considered his contributions to be as valuable as any from posters twice (or thrice) his age. Unfortunately others show the naivete and impulsiveness common to many teenagers. I don't mean that as a condemnation, it's just not that common around here and stands out.
As I said in another comment in another place - I've seen it over the years and Dave is right - it comes and goes.
I agree with you too
A couple more points about diaries
I spend too much time in here as it is. I like to read the diaries, but when there are ten or twelve new ones every day, it's hard to keep up. When you don't have time to read all the recent diaries, you're more likely to miss out on some interesting discussions or to post a diary yourself that someone else has just posted.
Speaking of duplicate diaries, how many times do we need to read the same discussion about whether Rudy is coming or staying in Europe, or Nate's supposed man-crush on Jarrett or his dislike for Sergio, or whether the Blazers should trade Martell, etc. Nothing to see here, folks, let's move on...
That offending diary that Dave removed... a lot of those off-topic posts came over the weekend. Maybe folks were celebrating St. Patrick's Day a little early...?
Yeah
--Dave
I could be wrong
One diary a week is not enough for some of our more thoughtful posters, imo.
10% ought to be enough for anyone
Shouldn't it be 6.40%?
Dang Stat People
Here is how I see things. A lot of people like to get replies to their comments. I agree that it is nice to be acknowledged, but you do not have to reply to everyone. There is the "thank you" and then "you're welcome," no need to keep bowing. Lord knows I talk about basketball and the Blazers about 1/7th of the time, but I still come here to read about the Trail Blazers.
People are using a Coffee Talk with Linda Richman "talk amongst yourselves" jump off, then responding to every single comment. I don't mind the "talk amongst yourselves" diaries, it's just that there are about eight an hour, and half of them have some sort "I know you are, but what am I banter," going on once you read the comments.
Just as TwoDeep pointed out, there are at least four to six diaries after a game that should be saved for Dave's recap. I think sergioFTW is the greatest example of restraint. He only has six diaries under his belt, but he has never missed an opportunity to point out how well Sergio would play if he played 48 minutes.
I think we could easily come to a consensus, that I am the last person that should be talking about restrain while writing a diary. I just do not think it is that hard to click "Recent Diary List" to see if it is a duplicate, or if you want to rant about the outcome of the game, to wait for Dave to write his recap, which is normally up before the rant diaries are posted.
I am tominhawaii and I approve this message.
thanks Dave
I have written only three diaries,
But really, does Nate have a man-crush on Jarrett Jack?
I´m a criminal.
I promise to do better from now, too.
Well your not a very good criminal

"The Team with Caricature!"
by Lizzy Lowblow on Mar 17, 2008 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Real story
Second part
If I could change one thing about this site . . .
TwoDeep had a great point -- commenting in a game recap is an excellent alternative to starting yet another diary. Can we come to a consensus on this one?
The SB Nation redesign may improve the situation. The site I looked at recently (Oakland As baseball) chunked diaries into three different "Fanposts" areas, including one for short posts of video or media links.
If I could change one thing
Hrmm
What about those people that have English as their third language :P?
[Yes, I'm bragging.]
THAT'S
Seriously, even if I didn't have a no-profanity policy anyway I would invent one just for you. The profane Damir is OK but the trying not to swear and inventing other things in its place Damir is HILARIOUS.
Remember, though, you do get one swear word free if we win the lottery again...although I don't think we can win it twice so we should amend that to getting bumped up as high as we can go.
--Dave
Hahaha
I'll let you know what I come up with.

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