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The Payoff

Here you go, folks!  Kurt from ForumBlueandGold paying off on our little wager, as promised.  Enjoy!

I don't think you fans up in Portland need me to tell you that the future is bright. I read the comments here and I know you know the game, you can see it. You're team has some of the best bloggers in the business (you even slipped a homer onto the ESPN.com roster) and they are telling you the same thing.

But I will tell you that other fans are noticing, too. In the case of myself and other Lakers fans, we see our team as built as a title contender for the next five years (give or take) and we wonder who else will be trying to fit through that window. And it is clear Portland is one of those teams, albeit a year or two away.

And Portland has done it the smart way. My personal belief is that organizations win from the top down -- the best franchises have a plan to build a team that has everyone on the same page, from ownership to the kid that runs out with the mop and gets the sweat off the floor. Know what kind of team you want to build, get a coach who can execute that plan, then draft to fit the system.  You see that in San Antonio, and they've been winning for a decade. You see it in Detroit. Humbly I would say the Lakers have built to their system.

And you see it in Portland. As one of my commenters, Darius, pointed out, you've followed the San Antonio model to the T. (Right down to winning the lottery and selecting the best big man in a decade.) More importantly, this is not just a stockpiling of stars without concern for how they will mesh (see Denver).

Another commenter and writer on my site, kwame a., put it this way:

"What I like about the Blazers talent is that there are no redundancies -- it all fits well. Oden is a defensive minded center who will control the boards and score right at the rim. Aldridge is a skilled, offensive minded big man who can score from the high post or the block. Roy is a steady, controlled, flawless combo guard who can create offense and make plays. The role players (Webster, Outlaw, Rodriguez, Fernandez) all provide athleticism and shooting. It's a collection of players that should perfectly complement each other and cover all skill sets."

Personally, I love that Brandon Roy already has a midrange game and uses it. I love that LaMarcus can go inside or outside. Your role players can all shoot. Against the Lakers, when Nate and the boys realized Luke Walton on Outlaw was the mismatch (Luke can't stay with anyone athletic) you exploited it like a veteran team with isolations and pick-and-rolls. Bottom line, you don't play like the youngest team in the NBA. In an NBA filled with players who have a me-first game honed in AAU contests, Portland has guys with mature games at a young age.

What's scary for the rest of us is with all the talent already on the floor in Portland, you have Oden and Rudy Fernandez in the wings. I've been fortunate on my blog to have several readers from Spain (and I've picked up more recently, for obvious reasons), and they are players and youth coaches who really know the game. And for almost three years, they've been telling us that Fernandez is the real deal, that the team that gets him is going to have a very special player. So you've got that to look forward to.

On the court, there are still questions about how this team will evolve, at least to my eyes. Not on defense, however (despite having pretty pedestrian statistics this season). We've seen a good, aggressive defense for stretches, including the win over the Lakers. When your defense has not worked it's because it has had to collapse to protect the paint against the league's slashers. We don't know what kind of offensive game (or, apparently, haircut) Greg Oden will bring to the court next year, but we know he can board and defend. That is going to allow your perimeter defenders to be more aggressive, and the whole thing will suddenly look better.

And, it will allow you to run. Having Oden cleaning the glass will allow your guards to leak out on the break, and you'll get more of the easy transition baskets that make the game simpler.

I'm curious to see if you will develop a true go-to guy (ala Wade when the Heat won) or more of a team effort in crunch time (ala Detroit). It will be fun to watch this team learn how to win at the NBA level in the coming years. Maybe a veteran role player who has some rings can speed the learning process along, but Portland is already on that track.

In a couple of years out two teams likely will be fighting for the same trophy again late in the playoffs. I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to Andrew Bynum and Greg Oden going at it for a decade or more. Right now, it's fun to watch your team and its athletes grow and mature. In a couple of years I may not feel that same love, but the respect for how it was done and the quality of the game will remain.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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and that my friends
 is why the Lakers have the smartest fans in the NBA
M. E.

by midget on Mar 1, 2008 2:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna ignore that
.
Formerly known as Junit3123

by Jason3123 on Mar 1, 2008 2:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

HA!
Every team has a number of great, intelligent fans. But the bandwagon-friendly teams (LA, Boston, Detroit) tend to also have a lot of idiots following "the good team."
Trade Freeland!

by rockingharder on Mar 1, 2008 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
I'm so glad that a lot of the bandwagoners jumped off the ship lately.  We don't nearly see as many fire nate, trade (insert name), we should have, etc. threads as we used to.  

by Philthyanimal on Mar 1, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point
How ironic that the team starting to play worse would make the overall commenting more positive.

by Bretski on Mar 2, 2008 11:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good job Kurt
You make dislike you guys less, but as soon as I see a L*ker uni it will return to 100% hatred, not the 95% that it is right now.
Formerly known as Junit3123

by Jason3123 on Mar 1, 2008 2:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Encore, Encore, Encore!
Tell me more of your Blazer love. I cannot get enough.

The L*kers don't rule here. Never bet on 'em winnin' at THE ROSE GARDEN (sorry if I gave your secret away Dave).

"The Team with Caricature!"

by Lizzy Lowblow on Mar 1, 2008 2:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Gawrsh ...
Ah, shucks, you shouldn't have ...

by bfan on Mar 1, 2008 2:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Lakers
They still have to determine if Odom, Bynam and Gasol can coexist.  Then they have to sign Gasol in the summer.  If they don't win it all this year, or at least make it to the conference finals, will they be able to sign Kobe?

Everything looks good during the honeymoon, but what happens when they hit some rough road?

And I am not denying that things look good for the Lakers right now.

by tssbro on Mar 1, 2008 2:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Honestly...
Even though they're pushing for a championship now, they still need to get a feel for the full healthy team- there's a good chance they won't win it all this year.  I'm not expecting it- Kobe really, realyl wants it, but I think he's realistic as well.  If next year, everyone's ehalthy, and everything falls tio crap, THEN we have a problem.  until then, I think Kobe stays, and Buss WILL pay the big three (Kobe, Bynum, Gasol) to stay- he knows it'll pay off for him.

by LakerfanJeff on Mar 1, 2008 3:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You still here
Haahaaahaa.

Hey Jeff, thanks for letting us know how the true Laker Fan feels and what they think..

"The Team with Caricature!"

by Lizzy Lowblow on Mar 1, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Remarkable candor!
I really appreciate the honest analysis of our team and its future. I also really enjoyed your input regarding Rudy Fernandez, the more I see video of him, and read what people write about him, the more excited I get about what he IS going to be able to do for the Blazers.

Thanks for the write up.

35:35 Min, 10-18 FG, 2-2 FT, +6 +/-, 5 Off, 8 Reb, 2 Ast, 3 Stl, 22 Pts - LMA vs. LAL

by LaMarvelous on Mar 1, 2008 2:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Class act all the way through
I loved the intensity of the game last night, and here's to more of that in the years to come.

by JPop on Mar 1, 2008 3:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

My favorite part was this:
"Portland is going to be the best team in the whole wide world, and Blazers Edge is the coolest blog ever."  

Thanks Kurt, you're swell!

"I've been going to this high school for seven and a half years. I'm no dummy. I know high school girls." - Charles De Mar from Better Off Dead (1985)

by tominhawaii on Mar 1, 2008 3:17 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Very classy.
Here's hoping we never have to return the favor.  And if we do, may we show as much class as your readers and you have.

by ken on Mar 1, 2008 6:33 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Agree
"You, my friend, are an enigma" (einman77)

by amlmart1 on Mar 2, 2008 10:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Seems acceptable....
but then again thought his flattery could have been poured on a bit thicker. Maybe I didnt read it as thoroughly as Tom did.

ah, Kurt's a good sport, I appreciate that.

by bow4meow on Mar 1, 2008 10:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you sir.
You may be a L*ker fan, but you are still a gentleman.  Here's looking forward to a long and interesting rivalry in the next 5-10 years.

by DonkeyShins on Mar 1, 2008 10:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Go to guy during crunch time?
You might have heard of him...All Star Brandon Roy.  

Even though I still strongly dislike the L*kers...I applaud the class you just showed.  I'd wish your team luck, but that would be disingenious, so I'll just wish you (personally) the best.  

by JasonT on Mar 1, 2008 11:03 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Go go guy
As JasonT said, the Blazers already have a go-to guy in crunch time.  In fact, Roy's been playing that role--and very well--since his inaugural game with the Blazers, when Zach deferred to him.  No knock on Kurt: few non-Blazer fans seem to have noticed Roy's remarkable penchant for carrying the Blazers down the stretch of games.  It's practically Kobe-esque (if more understated).

I have to say that Kurt seems to be a prince among L*ker fans.  What a waste--a classy guy rooting for a team led by scum like Kobe Bryant.  Sorry, Kurt, but you're in denial there.  Kobe's an amazing ballplayer, but behind his winning smile is a very unpleasant character.  

While I'm stirring things up: I seriously question how Odom and Gasol will co-exist.  Come on: these guys are both starting power forwards, plain and simple; neither can guard "threes."  So how in the world is that supposed to work out?  You point out in your post how the Blazers are built without redundancies, but the "New L*kers" have just such a conflict at their core.  

Sorry to pop your balloon, but I don't see the Lakers being stiff competition for the Blazers after next season.  Kobe will still be great, but Aldridge and Oden will have surpassed Gasol and Bynum by a large margin.  And, increasingly, the Lakers will have no answer for Travis Outlaw.  So your team had better win while it can; that championship window is small indeed.  

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Mar 2, 2008 2:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I had a nitghmare: I was a Laker.
After what I have read I don´t consider that a nightmare. Though actually neither a dream, if you may understand me. I wonder what it was and how can be called.
"You, my friend, are an enigma" (einman77)

by amlmart1 on Mar 2, 2008 11:12 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

What am I saying?
A nightmare is a nightmare.

Sorry fakers, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak.

"You, my friend, are an enigma" (einman77)

by amlmart1 on Mar 2, 2008 11:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha
Not really, maybe. Don't read this part. I'm just tryin' to cover your behind.

Havin' your back is a Crucial American thing. I gots it for ya.

When you need it back, let me know. OK?

"The Team with Caricature!"

by Lizzy Lowblow on Mar 2, 2008 12:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Tnahks a loat
I hope that word souns lizard enough.
"You, my friend, are an enigma" (einman77)

by amlmart1 on Mar 2, 2008 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It'll Do
"The Team with Caricature!"

by Lizzy Lowblow on Mar 2, 2008 2:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

that was a nice read to pass the time
Fernandez,Roy,Outlaw,Aldridge,Oden---wait for it! My Video about BROY7

by soulja2boy on Mar 2, 2008 4:50 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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