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Game 50 Recap: Blazers 93, Pacers 101

Well geez.  That wasn't exactly what we wanted.  The rest of this trip is going to be tough now.

Boxscore

Team Observations

Despite the loss this wasn't a total disaster like Friday night was.  A number of things went right.  First of all we did see more movement in the offense and fewer of those slow isolation sets.  They were there still, but not as frequently.  We shot 45% and held them to 37%.  Everyone who played was pretty aggressive looking for their shot.  Nobody played scared or looked intimidated.  We did a reasonably good job playing defense in the key and we didn't let them run out too often.

However this game was lost for a couple of critical reasons.  First we ran an ASTONISHING 9 point, 14 attempt deficit at the free throw line.  That should NEVER happen against the Pacers.  This was one of the areas where we were supposed to dominate.  Second, we allowed them 16 offensive rebounds and also committed 14 turnovers to their 6...losing possessions in droves in the third quarter when they pulled away from us.  Neither one ended up biting us as badly as they could have in terms of actual points, but we cost ourselves extra chances to score which we ended up needing.  Third, we failed to hit open shots from distance.  The Pacers were packing four in the paint at times and that's where a lot of those turnovers came from.   This is becoming a nightly story and by the way JAMES JONES WHERE ARE YOU? Fourth we showed a complete lack of recognition on Danny Granger's scoring range.  Fifth we're still incapable of consistently handling picks and the ensuing plays they create.  If I see Joel Przybilla and a guard either switch or get caught in no-man's land off of a screen one more time I think I'm going to scream.  We either end up with our point guard on their cutting big man or enough space between Joel and our guard to march the Weight Watchers Drum and Bugle Corps through.

Sixth, and finally, comes the dirty little secret of the Blazers...

Our guys are easy to guard.

Getting good looks on offense basically boils down to one thing:  forcing your opponent to make decisions.  The liability of the defender is not physical, but that he doesn't know what you're doing and so has to guess how to proceed.  If you allow a wide receiver to run around long enough in the NFL he's going to get open, not because he's athletically superior to the defender but because eventually the coverage guy is going to guess wrong.

But think now...who on the Blazers makes opposing defenders make decisions?  Brandon Roy, that's who.  He's a triple-threat to drive, shoot, or pass or any combination thereof.  But other than Brandon, who else?

Lamarcus maybe, but he really doesn't cover much space or attack the rim once he has the ball.  If he's facing up he's going to shoot it.  If he's posting he's going to spin and shoot it.

Travis probably.  He's certainly the most varied threat in terms of moves but as we're seeing now if people pay attention to him he has a much harder time getting good shots.

Jarrett, no.  He's going to drive or pass but his pass probably won't hurt you.
Steve, no.  He can't get his own shot that well.  He'll just pass whether he drives or stays.
Channing, no.  He has to shoot a jumper or he's out of his element.  He's not a great passer either.
Sergio, no.  He'll almost always pass and has not developed the ability to finish or hit his jumper.
Martell, no.  He's driving a little more now, which is good, but he's not a passer and not a good ball-handler.  Keep in front of him and you'll be fine.
Joel, HAH!

Without Roy you're left with Lamarcus' ability to score and about half of what Travis is normally.  Beyond that it's a defensive cakewalk in terms of decision-making.  That's not going to win you games.

This could be solved by more efficient play running, as plays by their very nature force decisions on defenses.  But we're not crisp in that area either without Brandon.

It could also be alleviated if we could hit our outside shots consistently, thus freeing up the floor more for the guys that can move.  But you see how that is going.

In short without the pressure our All-Star puts on the defense our gifts go to waste.  One- and two-dimensional offensive players are exposed much more than they would be otherwise.  And that's exactly what's happening to us.

Individual Notes

--I thought Lamarcus did well offensively tonight.  His continued aggressiveness is impressive and I hope he can keep it up even when Brandon returns.  We need him badly.  He didn't terrorize the boards but 11 overall is not too shabby.

--I was also impressed by Martell and Jarrett...if not always in their execution at least in their aggressiveness.  They looked like they were bent on scoring tonight and they didn't settle for low-effort attempts.  Martell got 8 rebounds.  Jarrett has 10 assists.

--I think Travis tried to be aggressive but it looked like Indiana knew he was coming.  He still has trouble sometimes getting past concentrated defense.  His shot selection was not great, even for Travis.

--Joel, Steve, and Channing looked like they were giving their all.  I enjoyed Blake's attempts to pull us close in the final quarter.  He shook off his defenders and shot.  Joel was great on the boards and played good defense as long as we kept him near the basket.  I just wish with all my heart that he could be passed to on offense with a reasonable probability of success.  Channing hit his shots and got his rebounds.  A little better defense would have been nice.

--This wasn't a good Sergio night, which is a shame because it could have been.  He could have pushed the tempo and the offense in general against a relatively weak defensive opponent.  I guess it wasn't to be.

One Two-point-five-Sentence Game Summary:

Foul me once, shame on you.  I foul you 25 times for 37 free throws and you hit 29 of those while I only shot 23 overall and you're the PACERS...shame on me!

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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It has been amazing...
to watch the Fans on this and other blogs about our team.  Between the proposed trades and the "Nate love/hate/insecurity" diaries, I have more entertainment this year than the day my brother finally caught the pig...all 350 lbs of him.  Do, we have problems?  Ohhh, heck yes.  Are they insurmountable?  Depends on who you talk to, lol.  It all really depends on the facts.
#1.  Given all that has happened to our team, were we projected to be a playoff team?  NO
#2  with the talent we have, should we be?  NO, the western conference is more loaded than it has ever been.
#3.  Did the Blazers, Overaccomplish this season, witout a doubt.

by coastrider on Feb 10, 2008 12:38 AM PST reply actions  

Correct answers:
  1. No.

  2. No.

  3. During the 2nd 6th of the season -- yes. Otherwise, no.

t
"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08

by timbo on Feb 10, 2008 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

ive had a bad feeling
about the blazers for a little while now. really, just the feeling that their luck has changed and theyrre in for a rough spell. when james jones went into a bad slump and then said his knee was hurting again, that was one sign. martell has fallen back some, to the point where now im surprised when he hits a 3. travis hasnt risen to the occasion lately. neither has sergio. so when brandon misses some games, the team just have much of a chance.

lamarcus is not at the point yet where he can be force-fed and respond by scoring like z-bo once did. and if we're dependent on jarrett and blake for big-time scoring.....we're in trouble.

and so: a period of adjustment after over-achieving. reality sets in.

ignacio

by ignacio on Feb 10, 2008 4:03 AM PST reply actions  

The facts are clear to anyone...
who wants to see them.

  1.  We weren't that good.  We took some teams by surprise, and played way over our heads for a time.

  2.  We aren't that bad.  The other teams have adjusted and are not looking past us anymore.  This is the NBA, that's what teams do.

This is a young, growing, learning team.  There is no veteran stability (outside the coaching staff) to get them over the low points, they have to learn on their own.  I was skeptical that it could be done this way but now I think it just might be possible.  Whether it can be done without veteran presence or not, though, it will definitely take a while.  Patience is called for.  

Meanwhile it's a great show, enjoy it.  It certainly beats what we've had for the past few years.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Feb 10, 2008 4:24 AM PST reply actions  

Watching more games
I just picked up the League Pass at the half-season discount, and as (with the recent ESPN and NBA TV games) I've been watching more games this year, I've noticed a couple of things that stand out to me much more watching the games than in reading recaps and box scores:

Joel is a lot worse than I thought; he's absolutely no threat on offense, has poor hands and switches to slow consistently only defense, sometimes making up for it with a block.

Jarrett is far too careless with the ball. Some of the turnovers and sloppy passes he makes are just unreal.

Sergio is about 5% fun to watch, and about 95% wince inducing. He can't shoot, and that makes him one dimensional and easy to guard. His passing isn't good enough to overcome the fact that he can't finish a layup.

So, what should we be doing sans-Roy? Picking an offensive set and running it to death. Pick and roll; high screen, something. Figure out the best set of plays, and be boring - but execute it well.

It's easier to see now why we've been a bad team, and how much impact Roy has had - similar to Nash in Phoenix; they were (and still are) awful without him to key the offense. What really hurt the last two games (and also somewhat in the Knick game) is that the guys killing us are not all-stars; they are hustle players and guys with quickness. Foster had 8 offensive rebounds? Really? Isn't that a career high? Rodney Stuckey? These guys are beating us?

by skyman375 on Feb 10, 2008 4:57 AM PST reply actions  

Everything you said is fine
And Jeff Foster is ugly and uses Botox too much, but one thing he can do is rebound.  He does it as well as anyone, especially considering how taut his face is.

I don't like being beat by hustle players either.  If our main guys aren't good enough yet to compensate for not hustling then I guess they should hustle.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Feb 10, 2008 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Re/ Foster
There's a reason he wants his face so taut.  It gives him superior aerodyamics when chasing those rebounds and loose balls (every edge counts).  Fortunately, Foster's trainer has been saving the Botox bottles & syringes.  Someday an intrepid Congressman will investigate, and those eight offensive rebounds from the other night will have an asterisk next to them in the record books.

Hmm: but in the meanwhile, maybe we should get Greg Oden some Botox.  As great a rebounder as he was in college, imagine what he'd be like with a smooth face!

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Feb 10, 2008 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Future will get better
Lack of Rebounding,no interior defense,Lack  of Driving in the lane,not enough Points in the paint.Somethings will change next year but were kidding ourself if we think Greg Oden's going to do it bye himself.

by billyjoejack on Feb 10, 2008 6:34 AM PST reply actions  

The Blazers are better than this
They're just flat worn out.  Watching the Pistons coast to victory the other night got me to thinking: how many times this season have the BLAZERS gotten to rest their starters down the stretch?  The NBA season is a marathon, and all those comebacks and tight games seem to have caught up with the Blazers--both mentally and physically.  They've truly "hit the wall."

So while all the negatives folks are pointing to with this team are accurate, people err in thinking the team--and the individual players--are really this bad.  Remember during that last road trip, when LaMarcus described the sensation of knowing what to do, and telling his body what to do, but having his body respond too slowly to do it? Well, at this point it looks like the Blazers are too whipped to even be able to tell their bodies what to do.

The all-star break will help; I just don't know how much.  But the good news is that next season the Blazers will not only have Oden, Rudy, and possibly a top rookie on board, but the returning players will be a year more experienced.  All that should mean a stronger, more efficient team that can put teams away and coast to some victories.  That'll make all the difference as the long season grinds on.

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Feb 10, 2008 6:40 AM PST reply actions  

I've skipped the last 2...
...........but one thing I noticed during the last game I was able to watch is that Nate is sending Joel high on defense and leaving LMA low.

This is backwards.

Don't blame Joel for not being able to cover a guard, that's not gonna happen unless the NBA initiates an affirmative action program for drafting slow, fat kids...

Joel is a LOW POST defender and a REBOUNDER (11 reb. in 23 minutes v. Indiana).

The defense needs to be schemed around that axiomatic truth.

t

"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08

by timbo on Feb 10, 2008 7:48 AM PST reply actions  

That's not an accident though
Unless we're playing zone Joel has to guard a man.  The opposing team says, "Whoever Joel is guarding, take him up high and involve Joel in the pick and roll."  They know our guards can't handle it.  They know Joel won't be able to recover.  It shows a failing on both parts.  And that will happen no matter what unless you just tell Joel to leave his man entirely.

--Dave

by Dave on Feb 10, 2008 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Then that's the problem...
............to be fixed.

t

"You don't live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot." ---Charles Barkley, 2/7/08

by timbo on Feb 10, 2008 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

The good news:
Greg Oden IS quick enough to show up high, then get back down low to block a shot.
"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Feb 10, 2008 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to worry!
Superman is returning.  BRoy makes our team go by drawing so much of the defense to him that our other guys are left the opportunity to contribute.

Yep, we're a bit of a one trick pony right now but it's a pretty darn good trick .... and more are being learned.

by TwoDeep on Feb 10, 2008 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

OK, help me out here guys...
i hear two things often these days, lack of veteran leadership and the team is tired.

re vets: joel, james jones, raef are vets, so why do we not have veteran leadership?

re tired: the blazers are young and should have more energy than most teams, so why are they 'tired?'

by rburg on Feb 10, 2008 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

conditioning
nothing can condition your body to the long grind that is the regular season other than playing in it for a few years.  

by Philthyanimal on Feb 10, 2008 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Read my post above
("The Blazers are better than this.")
"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Feb 10, 2008 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think they lack leadership
They have maturity beyond their years.  Roy provides plenty.  They do lack some of the veteran know-how about how and when to turn it on and how to throttle opponents when they have the chance, but really I don't think that lack has cost us many wins.

The physical thing is easy:  they haven't done this before.  Literally.  They just haven't.  The players who have played multiple seasons have never had this many minutes.  As I said a couple of game reviews ago Lamarcus Aldridge just passed his minutes total for all of last season and we're not even to the All-Star break yet.  Roy will pass his in another couple of games.  It's like the first time you run a marathon when you're only used to running 12 miles.  Until your body has done it a couple times you're not going to be at your peak.  They're not out of shape or lacking in work ethic.  They just won't know how to cope and compensate until they have at least a full season or two under their belts.

--Dave

by Dave on Feb 10, 2008 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

The Tour de France
You get in the best condition you can for it, with all you've learned from racing a bicycle all your young life.

You don't win until you've been in it and in it and in it.

You find out if you can Do It.

You find out what you can do in it.
Maybe your only able to help your Team Win. Maybe you can help your Team Leader Win It. A Stage, a Climb, a Sprint, a Break-A-Way & maybe you have to drop out.

You may find you think you can Win It. Lance did. Then you dedicate most of your life to it. Lance DOMINATED this event, because he had learned how. He was in control of of Himself and could influence the Tour to his advantage, becoming The Master of this challenge. The only things he could not control was luck & injury.

Our young Players are in the experiencing stage of an NBA season, hopefully they learn what they can do and master their challenge.

- George, the Passionate Cyclist

"Lenny Suckerpunch NEVER bet on me!" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow

by Lizzy Lowblow on Feb 10, 2008 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone still think
Greg Oden is our most valuable asset?

This pretty much settles the argument.

We can rattle off 13 in a row w/o Greg.

No Brandon, and we can do it too.

13 LOSSES.

"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"

by broggerboy19 on Feb 10, 2008 2:01 PM PST reply actions  

I love Roy
And he'll always be the heart of the Blazers.  But an Oden with 3, 4 years under his belt will be scary.  He's still our most valuable asset, in terms of league wide appeal.

No one can be as good as Roy, but if we just had ONE other real playmaker who can create (and not just sorta create) then it wouldn't be so bad.  Wouldn't be GOOD, but wouldn't look so incompetent like we did against the Pistons.

I know you love both kids also, but I just prefer enjoying them together and not really imagine who has move value-- just how nice it'll be when they can play together.  It'll be so dominant, it's like crazy or sumthin' yo.  And then ya got LMA!  For a rookie, he's pretty good too.

Once we get USED to playing with Oden and get used to what he does night in and night out, then it'll be tough to play without him (like it's tough playing without Roy).  We'll still win without an Oden, but we probably won't win the championships without the big lug.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Feb 10, 2008 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I found THIS bit interesting:
"Lamarcus . . . really doesn't cover much space or attack the rim once he has the ball.  
If he's facing up he's going to shoot it.  If he's posting he's going to spin and shoot it."

Those are exactly the same limitations a certain other NBA player has been criticized as having,
and has spent a fair amount of time trying (and occasionally succeeding) to correct.
That would be Dirk Nowitski.

For all the just-like-Sheed talk, I think the player one could best compare LaMardridge to would be Dirk.
And yes, that INCLUDES the tendency to not attack the basket enough, or be aggressive enough.
Am I wrong in seeing this?

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Feb 10, 2008 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

OK, but LMA is still VERY young
He still lacks the strength to establish low post position, but he's already progressed greatly in that regard since last season.  Also, LMA is already much quicker than Dirk and a better defender.  Dirk isn't chopped liver, but LMA will be a much more versatile player, IMO.  

Also: even if the mature LMA DID share Dirk's limitations, he'd be playing alongside a guy who cancels those out entirely: Greg Oden.  If Dirk had a dominant center like GO, he'd have at least one championship by now.  

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Feb 10, 2008 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That is the salient point
Well...first if Lamarcus even ends up breathing the same air as Dirk we'll be ecstatic.

But second, if Dirk had Oden by his side it would be a darn perfect match.  Inside-outside scoring galore.

I don't think Lamarcus becomes the scorer that Dirk is (the guy was MVP after all) but he should be a better defender eventually, which means not only inside-outside scoring, but nasty stopping power as well.

--Dave

by Dave on Feb 10, 2008 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, yes--absolutely!
I guess I should clarify: LaMardridge reminds me of Dirk WHEN HE FIRST CAME INTO THE LEAGUE.
In those early with-Nash, non-conference-championship-contending years: THAT Dirk Nowitski, not the current model.

And, by extension, I see LMA going through a lot of the reactions, adaptations and improvements
that Dirk has had to go through over the course of the last 5-6 seasons,
a process that saw him have to be The Man after Nash's exit, become an MVP and go to the finals.
I think Dirk is a lot tougher inside than he used to be, a better defender, and more versatile with his offensive arsenal.

And I look forward to LaMardridge making exactly those improvements in the coming years.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Feb 11, 2008 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I maybe saw the wrong things
- confessing here that I fast forwarded through a lot of the game --- but I felt Travis had regressed to his "I have the ball, I must shoot it" mentality.  Now maybe I missed him passing, but I thought I saw some cases when he could have passed and didn't; it reminded me of last spring.

And did you see how hard he was breathing at the end of the game?  I wondered if his asthma was giving him trouble.  I was concerned because it almost seemed as if he couldn't get a deep enough breath.

When we're talking about being tired, we also have to consider mental exhaustion.  Most of these guys have never worked this hard in their lives.  When your body is tired your mind isn't at its sharpest and you can make wrong decisions.  I thought Jarrett looked terribly down as the game wore on.  He can't let that happen (if he felt as lackluster as he looked.)  But losing, and losing ugly will take its toll on minds already battling with physical fatigue.

I hope that Brandon playing in two games during the All-Star "break" is able to find time to kick back and do nothing ... or at least something that will take his mind and body away from basketball.  Of course that is happening right now, but you know that tomorrow night he'll play as hard as he possibly can to help the team come back from what I'm guessing are demoralizing losses.

"This is the pre-season for NEXT YEAR." - timbo, Feb. 8.

by jorga on Feb 10, 2008 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

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