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ROY IS AN ALL STAR!!!!

HE GOT IT!!!  HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT IT!!! HE GOT Reserves: Brandon Roy David West Steve Nash Dirk Nowitzki Chris Paul Carlos Boozer Amare Stoudemire http://www.nba.com/allstar2008/reserves_080131.html

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haha yea!!!!
first blazer since 02!!
awww y'know we did this and i was y'know like hahaha and then i, y'know, i shot it and was like whooooo------by Mortimer <----hahaha!!!!!

by soulja2boy on Jan 31, 2008 4:22 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable
GO BLAZERS!!!!

RIP CITY RETURNS - OFICIALLY!!!!!!!!!!

by hotstuffdb22 on Jan 31, 2008 4:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Pretty Unbelievable!!!!
Roy is "speechless about the vote"

"I can't say I was confident about it at all"

"We think we can make the playoffs... it's gonna be tough because teams are getting better... it's our goal"

"It starts with our head coach... he keeps us motivated to win games... we just have one common goal, that is to win games... as long as we listen to him, we're gonna win"

by hotstuffdb22 on Jan 31, 2008 4:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Roy beat out
Camby, Parker, Ginobli, Deron Williams, Tracy McGrady,

by hotstuffdb22 on Jan 31, 2008 4:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

those guys are all great
But who did more for his team this season?  It's Roy by a landslide.
"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Jan 31, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Boo ya
First of many.

by joof on Jan 31, 2008 4:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He will play in both events!
THat seems like a little much, but i guess it is more fun than work.

by mxpx5678 on Jan 31, 2008 4:40 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

He's played back-to-backs before
and he probably won't get too many minutes in the ASG... That is, unless the hype from being named Rook-Soph Game MVP carries over :)

Oh yeah, one other thing: HECK YES!!!

by rockingharder on Jan 31, 2008 4:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good Work and Lucky Numbers
Kudos to Roy for making the squad.

One has to figure that Iverson edging out McGrady probably helped Roy's chances, in that Iverson probably would've been a reserve had McGrady been voted by the fans, thus filling the guard spot that ultimately went to Roy.

by iCollective on Jan 31, 2008 4:41 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Luck numbers are our trademark this year
Here's to the first of many, many Blazer all star nominations over the next decade.

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 4:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Roy will play on both
in both the Rookie Challenge and All Star game (well, that's how he just answered the question)

by hotstuffdb22 on Jan 31, 2008 4:44 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

WORD
Great job, from ROY to All Star in 1 1/2 seasons. How stacked is the backcourt of the west? Wow.

by jessenumber1 on Jan 31, 2008 4:47 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Some PG-13 and up language there
for those of you who care about that sort of thing.

Also, why is there so much vitriol toward Roy? If Baron had made it instead of Roy, I can't imagine BE going nuts. We'd be disappointed, but I think the prevailing sentiment would be, "the West is so deep, especially for guards. Roy deserved it, but Baron did too. Good for him, but Roy will be in it soon enough."

by rockingharder on Jan 31, 2008 5:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is just embarrassing
But what do you expect? They are from Oakland.
"I Dare You Not to Like the Blazers" Henry Abbott

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 31, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that's what i was thinking
maybe it has to do with how the site is moderated.  if roy got snubbed i think this site would show enough respect if some disappointment, but the o-live forum would be obscene.

i'm more surprised about west making it, but that may just be because the AS game will have so many guards already.  these are coaches picking, and they probably wouldn't want to coach a team that was all guards.  :)

by shralpster on Jan 31, 2008 5:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I would certainly agree
We would be much more respectful. I am really surprised by this as a matter of fact. I am not convinced that Roy is better than Barron. Doesn't mean I don't think so, and my opinion might have a slight bias. I can understand them being upset. I certainly think Barron is better than Iverson, so I'm not sure why they aren't mentioning that.

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 5:13 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
they are animals over there. Scroll half way down and read the one titled 'seriously'. Dave wouldn't have any of that on this site.

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 5:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's awesome
They based their choice on yesterday's game and their made at the guy voted in, not the people who voted.  I love the internet.
"I knew a guy who was dyslexic. He was also cross-eyed. So everything came out right." Tummler from Gummo (1997)

by tominhawaii on Jan 31, 2008 5:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow
I just cannot post anymore without a typo.  made=mad
"I knew a guy who was dyslexic. He was also cross-eyed. So everything came out right." Tummler from Gummo (1997)

by tominhawaii on Jan 31, 2008 5:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's OK
you're coments our alwais welcum

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Now I can understand you
I like Brandon Roy, whatever planet he comes from. (Bill Walton?)

by amlmart1 on Jan 31, 2008 11:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Not to pile on, but...
...apparently I will. "they're" instead of "their."

I don't mean to make you feel bad, but it looks like I am an evil grammar-nazi at heart and cannot help myself. It's both in my genes and I was raised that way. Both nature and nurture got the better of me there.

I'm not stubborn, just obstinate

by T Darkstar on Jan 31, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Son of a Golden State of Mind blogger
I know the difference too.  Man, that sucks!
"I knew a guy who was dyslexic. He was also cross-eyed. So everything came out right." Tummler from Gummo (1997)

by tominhawaii on Jan 31, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose....
...you were the one who complained about the "Rise With Us" sign to huh?!?

by PtownJake on Jan 31, 2008 7:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

They may not be classy
but I don't think it's appropriate to be calling them animals either.

by Ramsey on Jan 31, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I was trying to be as polite as I could
But still wanted to be a little descriptive. Maybe 'they are acting like animals'?

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wait wait wait
upon further review, there was a lot worse that people were calling them on this thread. Why you gotta hate on me?

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He loves animals
and doesn´t think they deserve this treatment.
I like Brandon Roy, whatever planet he comes from. (Bill Walton?)

by amlmart1 on Jan 31, 2008 11:50 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave is our Nate
I like Brandon Roy, whatever planet he comes from. (Bill Walton?)

by amlmart1 on Jan 31, 2008 11:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

What a bunch of Bums
Some real class acts over there.
Somehow blaming Roy for being chosen over Baron Davis. What a joke.

by Jack Burton on Jan 31, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

golden state of mind certainly has a case
the numbers:

Roy
19.3ppg 4.5rpg 5.6apg .9spg 46%fg 34%3pt 78%ft

Davis
22.3ppg 4.8rpg 8.1apg 2.5spg 42%fg 35%3pt 75%fg

blazers and warriors have virtually the same record, so no advantage to either player there.  Golden State has good reason to be upset, just wish they wouldnt attack roy, attack the coaches...

RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Jan 31, 2008 5:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or the fact that the game is in NO
I don't think anybody in the NBA wants a baron boo fest at the all star game.
"I Dare You Not to Like the Blazers" Henry Abbott

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 31, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The difference between 42% and 46% shooting
means about 4 more shots for a teammate each game. That is significant.

by lee3022 on Jan 31, 2008 5:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

nearly 2 more steals a game
gets 2 of those shots back.

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 5:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

No question that other factors
including steals are part of their games. That is my point - being upset on the basis of statistics alone is silly. On that basis Zach was an All-Star several times. Roy does not play point until the 4th quarter but Baron all game. Yet who is the most influential leader? For GS that guy is Jackson. For Portland that guy is Roy. So many factors get included and I trust that the coaches know, much better than I, who is worthy.

by lee3022 on Jan 31, 2008 5:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So
what do you got against Z-bo anyway? Really I can understand both sides and could make a case for either player. But Roy's the mane today, huh?

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 6:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing against anyone
I am just saying if stats were the determinative then Zach would have been an All Star. This year far more than Baron, Camby and Jefferson have the stats to compete with anyone. So the coaches take into consideration more than stats and have for some time. If I were a coach I would vote for the players I would most like to have on my team and that were having a worthy year.

by lee3022 on Jan 31, 2008 7:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

My sarcasm font
didn't work there. I understand your point. Certainly won't get much argument out of me. Z-bo isn't an all-star for sure.

by einman77 on Feb 1, 2008 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

expectations
its all about performance to expectation. Blazers were predicted to be a lottery team, Golden State was a lock for the playoffs and maybe a contender. We surpassed ours, they are barely reaching theirs

by mark twain on Jan 31, 2008 5:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

amazing....
but I suppose the upside is that we're perceived a legit threat to those hoping to just squeak in to the playoffs.  

At the end of the day, even if we don't get 8 or above, we know that things are still going to be okay in the near future.  They're relying on Davis for crying out loud.

"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany."

by dcblazer on Jan 31, 2008 7:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Makes me...
Love the BE blog even more. Good stuff. I'm glad we have intelligent people on this blog.

I'm also wondering how a Hornets' loss and Blazers loss LAST night should be playing a role in All-Star picks in their opinions. Did we not blow out the Warriors a few times?

 

James Jones for the block

by RecordTOs on Jan 31, 2008 5:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's some pretty
trashy stuff......I came here to post the link.

i'd be disappointed if Roy made it, but there were so many deserving guards in the west, I'd understand.

by iDea on Jan 31, 2008 5:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Really happy for Roy and West
Disappointed for Baron Davis.  He's the biggest snub in my opinion.

by jksnake99 on Jan 31, 2008 5:05 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Golden State of Mind
They're very upset over there and they don't have nice things to say about Roy.  Stay classy Bay Area!

by Ramsey on Jan 31, 2008 5:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be pissed too
Davis leads Roy in virtually every category and his team has a 1 game lead in the standings.

I firmly believe Roy deserved it.  However, I 100% understand where Warriors fans are coming from and why they are pissed off.

by jksnake99 on Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I understood they're frustration
but after reading that garbage, I hope they don't have an All-Star for another 13 years.

by iDea on Jan 31, 2008 5:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, we're excited
about our turnaround from our 5 years of wilderness; Golden State is getting their turnaround from 15 years of terrible play.  They're even more overdue for some recognition than we are.  And those GSOM guys, they were so hardcore they stuck with a joke of an organization for an entire generation.  They are hardcore.

by howlingfantods on Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed
those way well be the most loyal fans in all of the NBA.

by jksnake99 on Jan 31, 2008 5:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Very true
To say that that organization has had little success over the course of it's history would be quite an understatement. Definitely hardcore fans. Yet still...

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 5:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Stephen Jackson/Baron Davis
split votes.  Kinda like I'm assuming Mr. Longoria and Ginobili split votes.

Just too damn many good guards.

Josh Howard not making it is another huge snub.

I disagree with the chuckster about Camby, though.  I like camby, but I think he's worse than his stats -- the overall Nuggets defense is too crap for him to be getting allstars and dpoys IMO.

by howlingfantods on Jan 31, 2008 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

great point
Vote splitting is real.  I'm 100% convinced that some coaches (maybe most) won't vote for two teammates on principal alone (7 spots, 15 teams).  This tends to hurt teams with 2-3 deserving players and helps teams with only 1.  This is a VERY likely reason why Roy beat out Baron/Manu/Parker.  With just 15 coaches voting, all it takes is 1 or 2 to "split" the vote amongst teammates to propel someone else past them.

I recall coming to this very conclusion back in 1995 when we had three decent candidates - Drexler, Robinson, and Strickland, none of whom made the game.

by douglast on Jan 31, 2008 9:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Uhmm...
Hate to be the naysayer, but Washington has had 2 selections to the All-Star game 3 out of the past 4 years including this year with Jamison and Butler.

Also, Boston had two this year, too, and you could make a case for them having 3...

by Beantown Chris on Jan 31, 2008 10:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

depends a lot on record
For teams at the top of the standing, they usually get multiple players.  For teams in the middle, they usually get one.  For teams on the bottom, they rarely get even one, unless it's a superstar on a bad team like KG on the wolves last year.

by howlingfantods on Feb 1, 2008 8:13 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

also...
I didn't say it was a definitive axiom, but I do think it's a not insignificant factor, especially in cases where the two players could be seen as fairly equally deserving.

Additionally, we are talking about cases involving two RESERVES.  Many teams will have one starter and one reserve, and I don't think this axiom applies to those situations at all.

by douglast on Feb 1, 2008 8:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

and...
conference strength plays a part.  Washington would never get two reserves in the West.  Hell, you could make a strong case for 3-4 Western snubs over Eastern guys who actually made it.  

by douglast on Feb 1, 2008 8:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how...
This is a snub? The coaches voted Roy in. Not us. Not other players. And I'd take Deron over Baron. Granted, I like Baron alot. Too bad we beat them a few times this season.
James Jones for the block

by RecordTOs on Jan 31, 2008 5:23 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

wow
that thread is bad!!!

by mark twain on Jan 31, 2008 5:12 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am beyond disappointed in GS
What a bunch of jealous a-holes.

Their logic is that they're better than us.  How about they try losing by less than ten points and then bring that back up.

by robrun2 on Jan 31, 2008 5:14 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

For all those folks complaining over
the Goldenstate of mind guys, keep in mind that they have a better record than us, Baron has better stats, and he's more of an electrifying player.  Frankly, I'm kind of surprised Roy made it over Baron, too.

Yall say we'd be gracious here, but there were tons of salty complaints here and on olive forums when Zbo got passed up for Okur and Howard last year.

by howlingfantods on Jan 31, 2008 5:24 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Salty comments.
We end up with plenty of them in the gameday threads when we are losing (Or even winning!). It's embarrassing really.  Like thinking that it's only a dream when you go to school with no pants on only to find out that you're an insomniac.
I'm not stubborn, just obstinate

by T Darkstar on Jan 31, 2008 5:27 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah
plenty of Blazer fans would be saying unnecessary things about Davis (e.g. takes too many bad shots, is a thug, etc.).  Pretending otherwise doesn't help.

Be happy for Roy and enjoy it, but don't blame Warriors fans for being upset- Davis had a very strong case.

by jksnake99 on Jan 31, 2008 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I have zero respect for the people over at GOSM
I visit that site often and think the moderators are good guys who run a cool site. But man, that is some pure garbage they are saying about Brandon who has done nothing to deserve it. No class.  
"I Dare You Not to Like the Blazers" Henry Abbott

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 31, 2008 5:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

However,
I'm confident that very few people would type in expletives every fourth word against Baron Davis. I wasn't as familiar with BE last year, but I'm confident that nothing similar happened with Okur's name as well. As for zbo, he would have been terrible in the All-Star game. Nobody wants to see standing layups. But switching hands, now that's something.
James Jones for the block

by RecordTOs on Jan 31, 2008 5:30 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And keep in mind
That Portland blew out Golden State both times they played them this year.

OOPS!

by damir on Jan 31, 2008 5:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Different story.
Last year, Okur flat-out didn't deserve to be in the game. You could make an argument either way for Stat-Bo.

The difference is that this year, Roy and Davis both deserved it. It's unfortunate that one of them had to sit out.

by rockingharder on Jan 31, 2008 5:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Roy's election is about team
there are many deserving players in both conferences who did not make it. The 13 game winning streak and our brief stay atop the NW division brought acclaim to the team and the reward to the team is Roy's selection. GS might want to look at the two games they played here for substance in the selection of Roy over Baron. Blazers 2 GS 0. It will likely add even more intensity to the return games at GS to come this year. The fans of GS seem passionate and I applaud that passion. Same with NY - they know when players are dogging it and let them know on either team.

Now the task is to finish the year as a team and continue to grow. Perhaps next year we (like NO) will have two in the ASG.

by lee3022 on Jan 31, 2008 5:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Jarret Jack
said it best on the radio that Roy is just the type of person any organization would want to be represented by.... when you see Roy, you see the rest of the Blazers, which is hard to do in any organization, let alone sports

by hotstuffdb22 on Jan 31, 2008 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good add
Wouldn't it be cool if Roy invited the whole team to NO at his expense. Spendy yes, but what a message!

by lee3022 on Jan 31, 2008 5:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

But!
I also like how they direct their hatred towards us, meanwhile we seem to blame our coach after every loss.
James Jones for the block

by RecordTOs on Jan 31, 2008 5:31 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

WHEN DO THEY ANNOUNCE THE
3 POINT SHOOT OUT CONTESTENTS????
RUDY > MJ

by myemic23 on Jan 31, 2008 5:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

At this rate...
...it will probably be March 15th.
I'm not stubborn, just obstinate

by T Darkstar on Jan 31, 2008 5:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

THE IDES! THE IDES I TELL YOU!
I'm not stubborn, just obstinate

by T Darkstar on Jan 31, 2008 5:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I know we have a long ways to go...
...but do diary threads collapse like gameday threads?
I'm not stubborn, just obstinate

by T Darkstar on Jan 31, 2008 5:46 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

congrats to broy
from a warrior fan. I think you guys understand warrior fans being upset. I do expect the blazers to get baron's best effort in the 2 games we play you now since they pretty much picked roy over baron. I just think its a shame that there are no warriors representing at any of the all star events considering our record and probably being the most entertaining team in the nba. Maybe harrington makes it to the 3 point contest, that be nice.

by houseofprime2 on Jan 31, 2008 5:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Looking forward to it!
I'd rather beat a team at it's best then a team that isn't trying.

It should be a good contest!  Hopefully blazers find that rhythm again so we can each play each other at our peaks!  I love good games.  they shorten my life span, but i love them.

"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Jan 31, 2008 6:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you very much
very classy move. I know there are a lot of stand-up people in the Bay Area. It's too bad that we saw your sight on a difficult day from some upset people and a few of them venting caused a some controversy on here. Honestly I have a lot of respect for Barron and the Warriors organization, in particular the fan based (discussed here in this thread). Maybe Harrington and Jones can settle it in a shoot out from the arc. Anyway, we'll see you next time we play.

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 10:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats to Brandon
It's nice to see the Blazers get an all-star.

by jayseyfield on Jan 31, 2008 6:00 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

dang
I know everyone is happy... but...

I would have preferred that roy had time to rest up.

ah well, can't change that.  Hopefully he goes out and has fun.

Golden state also has some angry fans!  I swear they're freaking foaming at the mouth!  I think they need a hug.

I can even understand.  Baron has an excellent case and unless you watch the blazers you're really not going to understand why Roy is special.

Ah well.  Hopefully JOnes goes too and Roy can hang with him and aldridge.  I wonder if any other blazers would go with Roy to watch him?  That'd be pretty cool.  

"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Jan 31, 2008 6:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I understand Warrior fans being upset
Baron's stats are amazing and his team is doing well also (HOWEVER, I don't think they had a better record when the coaches voted last week).  

BUT, as a guy who likes the Warriors and their fans I am surprised that THEY are surprised by this.  Coaches do not like Baron Davis.  Even if just Byron Scott and George Karl didn't vote for Baron, that's enough to make Baron not make the team.  

Baron has much better numbers, but you can't deny that Roy is a coach's player.  

For us at BlazersEdge, we should just let people vent.  They love their team like we love ours and are upset at their boy being snubbed.  It's not really against Roy.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 31, 2008 6:18 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

why does karl hate baron?
I hadn't heard that before. I know scott hates him because of their prior relationship. Again this probably be good for us because now the warriors will play with that pist off at the world attitude.

by houseofprime2 on Jan 31, 2008 6:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We generally don't swear here.
just an fyi.
"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Jan 31, 2008 6:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?
He didn't... but thanks for the reminder.

by rockingharder on Jan 31, 2008 6:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

pist
is walking the line so I thought i'd let him know.  Not meaning to pick, just saying.

That said, I've seen a few colorful exclamations of excitement from others too.  

"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Jan 31, 2008 6:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't this kind of touchy
for a guy who's sight name is ratbastird?

by einman77 on Jan 31, 2008 10:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lmao
was thinking the same thing

by DominicanAvenger on Feb 1, 2008 12:09 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is
he wants exclusive. The guy wasn´t JJ stepping out of bounds all time. And he reacts very well. Good guy.
Of course I say so because I´ve abused my license as foreing received here wiht great hospitality, writing some garbage, and I´m scared my license is expiring.
I like Brandon Roy, whatever planet he comes from. (Bill Walton?)

by amlmart1 on Feb 1, 2008 12:37 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL
I was proactively letting him know before people became all excited?

Yeah.  I can swear a bit actually.  Think of it more as keeping me in line of others don't swear because otherwise I may start dropping bombs... and then it could be rather messy.

oh... and that's rastabird, didn't you know?

"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Feb 1, 2008 7:15 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Rat,
Since when is piss a swear word?  And pist is not a word at all.

Of course congratulations are due for winning this weeks Irony award.

by timg56 on Feb 1, 2008 8:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you... thank you very much
I was hoping to become a hipster, and the extreme irony of this post I've now been inducted...

oh... crud...

My wanting to be one just eliminated.  meh, whatever.

A video link to amuse and to explain hipsters for those who don't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAO4EVMlpwM

Also... cursing all depends on your point of view.  L@kers isn't a curse word, but you all know what it REALLY means!

"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Feb 1, 2008 11:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry my bad

by houseofprime2 on Jan 31, 2008 6:39 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

no worries
Generally the site is pretty clean, and I just thought I'd let you know.  
"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Jan 31, 2008 6:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Reportedly
The year Karl coached the Olympics or World Championship team and Baron was the PG, they fought a lot.  Karl is known for fighting with his stars, and he didn't waste any time with Baron (reportedly).

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jan 31, 2008 6:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

bleh
I'm not really that fond of Karl.  Never have been.
"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Jan 31, 2008 6:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats to B-Roy.
Start getting used to it.  1st of many for Roy.  He still has so much room to grow, its scary.  I can test the theory if all-star/veterens gets more calls from the refs or not.

by theanomaly777 on Jan 31, 2008 7:09 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Ironically...
I remember reading a lot of national press last year about how Roy's ceiling wasn't as high as many others, and that he might be near it already. Funny thing is, I still agree with them... in that there is only one more level higher than all-star, and that is super star. One more step. Of course, the issue is that Roy's ceiling was far higher than anyone was giving him credit for at the time, save Blazer fans.
I'm not stubborn, just obstinate

by T Darkstar on Jan 31, 2008 7:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, this is...
pathetic. Honestly, if you want to get mad at the GSOMers for being mad at Roy when they should be mad at the coaches, that is understandable, even though you should understand that most (not all) of us don't really hate Roy, just what he represents (a player with worse stats on a slightly worse team who gets picked over a Warrior for reasons other than basketball).

But GET OFF THE HIGH HORSE! Ooooh, look at us, we're Blazers fans, and here at Blazers Edge, we're just a little bit better than everyone else. Nevermind the fact that the way we talked about the Warriors fans and ourselves showed ZERO class (because Oakland is a really relevant point) and tons of arrogance and pretentiousness (here at Blazer's Edge, we don't swear, we just do other equally despicable things that aren't directly against the rules like uninformatively calling people thugs), just know that we would rather take shots at the Warriors fans than celebrate our man Roy! Nevermind that supposedly we were just as angry when Randolph was passed over, that's alright, because we didn't swear. Phew, thank god we can still have a false sense of entitlement!

I will address some of the arguments.
You are talking about Warriors and Blazers playing against each other? Why? There are still two games to go that aren't on your home court, and to judge a player's performance on two games rather than the season is selective and wrong. The fact is the overall records don't lie.

"Roy is a special player, but people outside of Portland don't see the things we do." You have to understand that the EXACT same could be said for Baron Davis. If you watched the playoffs last year you would understand.

"Baron Davis shoots at a percentage that is four points lower, and that translates into four extra shots."
Okay, but what do the 3 point, 2.5 assist, 2 steal advantages lead to? How many extra points over the season has Baron scored if he has 3 more per game than Roy?

Now this I don't know, but has Roy played every game? Because Baron has.

It's not that Roy hasn't done anything to deserve it, but he hasn't done anything to deserve it over Baron. Everything he has done, Baron has done, and Baron has done it better. I know he is your guy, but every stat he has, Baron is equal or above. Every clutch shot he's hit, Baron has hit a shot of equal or greater clutchness.

And this I do know, Baron is by far the superior defender, he is top two in the west (either him or Devin Harris).

Roy is my man, I liked him since his Washington days, I always thought he would be better than Robinson. But when he is picked over Baron for non-basketball reasons (certain coaches not liking Baron, the NBA not wanting Baron in New Orleans, the Trailblazers playing past expectations even though they still have a worse record than the Warriors, Roy being a very likable guy) of course we get mad. The disrespect has been coming for a long time now, and a lot of us are fed up with it.

Peace to jksnake, howlingfantods, mortimer, T Darkstar, pretty much anyone that doesn't have their heads shoved up the place that is forbidden to be mentioned on the almighty Blazer's Edge board. Good luck with your season.

by killercrossover on Jan 31, 2008 8:08 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

First impression: "Wow."
I appreciate the peace offered at the end, thank you. I imagine that there will probably be some hostile reactions to this. Saying things like "If you watched the playoffs last year you would understand," will tend to get that.

However, there are some very valid points in here. A lot of time was spend talking about GSoM instead of celebrating Roy's All-Star achievement. And yes, Baron Davis did indeed get snubbed.

As far as the high horse is concerned, I think it comes from Dave's standards for this site, as (it seems to me at least, for what that's worth) many here would probably be using the same language as GSoM regulars if there were no restrictions.

Sure, some of the posts are not the most informed, or are particularly biased, or sometimes even wrong (actually, that's usually just mine) but after all, it is a fan forum. It doesn't take a degree to follow a sports team. That said, my advice (and feel free to disregard it if you want) is to ignore those who don't have anything meaningful or entertaining to say. It helps with the blood-pressure.

Baron Davis is an amazing player too, and deserves to be at the All-Star game as much as anyone else. This time, Roy gets the upper hand. It may well be (although as a Blazer fan, I hope not) that the Warriors edge out Portland for that final playoff spot, and Davis gets the last laugh this year. We'll play it out and see how it goes.

Here's to both teams making the playoffs. And peace to you as well.

I'm not stubborn, just obstinate

by T Darkstar on Jan 31, 2008 8:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well said
Golden state fans definitely have passion.
"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Jan 31, 2008 11:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Re:T Darkstar
When I said "if you watched the playoffs..." I meant it. If they watcehd the playoffs they would see Baron at his clutchest. I wasn't implying that the people here didn't, I was just referring to the playoffs because the Warriors don't play that many games on national television.

I think it is strategically beneficial for Baron to be snubbed, but I know that he wanted it (even though in interviews he said he didn't) and I am fed up with the continual disrespect of the Warriors (11 STRAIGHT YEARS WITH NO ALL STAR). I can understand if they have a losing record not getting an all star, that was why Jason Richardson never was an all star in his years here, but now that they are winning they still can't get one? I believe every other team in the top ten got one. Utah hasn't played to their expectations and they got one.

But whatever, now both the Warriors and Blazers have to contend with the Lakers +Gasol, and I dislike the Lakers much more than the Blazers so I'll be happy to refocus my anger.

Like I said before, good luck, hopefully we both get in, you guys take out the Lakers or whoever in the first round, we take out the Mavs or whoever we play, and then we will settle it in round two.

by killercrossover on Feb 1, 2008 6:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You dislike the l@kers more than the blazers?
I find that hard to believe,but I'm wondering how you're able to sleep at night then with that hatred seething through your veins.

Also, 11 years no all-stars?  that really brings your anger into a whole new light.  I would have thought he'd have snagged it last year.  (I don't pay attention to the all-star game because I just don't care.)

Ironically... Roy will barely play, I'm sure.

"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Feb 1, 2008 6:36 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he hasn't had a lot of chances
because he's been injured. And here is the last case I will make for Baron.
Here are the two most important stats in basketball.

PER
Baron: 21.57
Roy: 19.91

+/-
Baron: 10.4
Roy: 4.5

And Baron's (+27) definitely went up after tonight's game more than Roy's (in progress, but +7 at end of regulation) did after tonight's game.

by killercrossover on Feb 1, 2008 10:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to Blazers Edge
killercrossover.  I like your name.

Your pal,

Tom

"I knew a guy who was dyslexic. He was also cross-eyed. So everything came out right." Tummler from Gummo (1997)

by tominhawaii on Feb 2, 2008 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Killer, marry me now
I agree 100% with everything.

Baron scores more, rebounds more, steals more, plays more, has a better team record. What else can he do?

Stop being homers.


Holding down the Blazer fort down in California...

by Devyn on Feb 1, 2008 12:16 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

killercrossover
I appreciate you calling this site out for some pretentious and arrogant behavior.

I've had that feeling all along, and it doesn't surprise me that an "outsider" has picked up on it.

I've loved GS since the days of Run TMC and they've been one of my fave teams other than the Blazers for almost 20 years.  I certainly have respect for your fanbase and give you mad props for what you did in the first round last year.

Furthermore, I love Baron Davis and agree that he was snubbed.  But I don't agree that he was more deserving than Roy.  Steve Nash?  Maybe.  David West?  Definitely.  But Roy?  You guys are picking on the wrong guy.

I'm not even sure why or how Roy was singled out but when you guys pick on what was most probably a UNANIMOUS vote among the coaches, it really weakens your credibility and your cause.

And it's unfortunate that Baron got snubbed on account of factors that have nothing to do with his play, but it's a political league and, quite honestly, Baron has been less than sportsmanlike in enough situations that I believe the bias warrants some consideration and validity.

BTW, they are BOTH fantastic defenders but in different ways.  Baron takes a lot of chances that get him steals but that also lead to major breakdowns in the often porous GS defense--I wouldn't equate a ton of steals to stellar defense.

Besides, Baron Davis isn't blocking Carmelo Anthony in a post-up and grabbing the board in one fell swoop.

That was a HOF defensive move and deserves some acknowledgment; to say that Baron is a better defender is a reach.  To say that they are both fantastic but in different ways is far more accurate.

As far as clutch-ness is concerned, we'll see who ends up with more championship rings at the end of their careers.

Quite frankly, I like Roy's chances.

Best of luck with YOUR quest to make the playoffs.  I like the Warrior's chances too.

"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"

by broggerboy19 on Feb 2, 2008 12:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody on this site has
Trashed any of your players. Steals dont make a superior defender. Brandon has done just as much on D as he has on O. The melo block, shutting down Joe Johnson at end of the game situations, ect. Saying he is a superior defender is too much. The reason we were upset at GSOM guys is because you were throwing Brandon under the buss and saying terrible things about him. I read your guys site often and find it very humorous and informative. I made the Oakland comment and was referring to insanely passionate raiders fans. I watch Dubs games on league pass and know how great Oracle is. We just dident like you talking trash about our player who dident deserve it. Good luck to the dubs and their fans.
"I Dare You Not to Like the Blazers" Henry Abbott

by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 31, 2008 8:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

LOL
ALL I GOTTA SAY IS...KING JAMES

why couldn't roy do anything?

so sad.

by the noTORious TOR on Jan 31, 2008 11:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

somehow i don't think
anyone on the warriors could guard lebron james either

jackson's a great defender but lebron is...well...lebron...

by DominicanAvenger on Feb 1, 2008 12:14 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't suppose you saw the Hawks game
In that one--just prior to the Blazers/Cavs game you're referring to--Roy did the exact same thing to Joe Johnson and the Hawks that LeBron did a couple nights later to Roy & the Blazers.  That is, Roy dominated Johnson at both ends of the floor in leading his team to victory from over 10 points down with minutes to go.  The difference: Roy did it while running a 103-degree temperature.  He was still recovering from that effort when the Blazers played the Cavs, leading him to wilt down the stretch of that game.  Sure, LeBron had something to do with that also.  Hello: we're talking about the best player in the league in LeBron James.

You know, I was born & raised in San Francisco and grew up a Warriors fan--this is going back to the Nate Thurmond and Rick Barry days.  I'm embarrassed at how some of you guys are reacting to Baron's snub.  Aside from acting immature and mean-spirited, you guys are showing a lack of basketball sophistication.  That's VERY unlike Warriors fans--at least the ones I knew.

Sure, Davis was deserving of an all-star slot, but so was Roy.  Stats can be deceiving.  For one thing, the Warriors play uptempo, so there are more points, rebounds, and assists to go around.  For another, the Warriors go for steals (to feed their uptempo attack), whereas the Blazers have a conservative defensive philosophy.  The bottom line: what Davis did for the Warriors in last year's Mavs series, Roy has done for the Blazers this season--and he's done it for a team that won just 32 games last year, then got rid of its top scorer & rebounder as well as its back-up center (to make room for Oden).  THAT'S impressive.  

I'm not saying you can't make a case for Davis as more deserving than Roy.  But it certainly is debatable, and any true basketball fan would see that.  In addition, they'd treat Brandon Roy and his fans with some civility.  

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Feb 1, 2008 1:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

asdf
although i did think he travelled when he put the ball on the ground and drove to the basket.

by the noTORious TOR on Jan 31, 2008 11:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

coaches did a good job
First off, I'm responding to this topic over "Roy is an all star!!" because this one has four exclamation points in the title

Secondly, I'm glad Roy made it. Two of the reserve guard spots were already locked up by Paul and Nash so it really says something about Roy's play and the respect he's getting that he made it in a stacked confrence.

I would have liked to see Baron Davis or Captain Jack make it but the warriors have been very inconsistent and slumping right when the coaches vote doesn't help. I'm glad David West is getting some credit. I wouldn't have been able to decide between him or Tyson Chandler as the second hornet. If you took either off the team they'd drop to 7th or 8th in the west.

by terryisntbald on Jan 31, 2008 11:42 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Rolling
As a professor of English at Oxford pulling your collective leg all along, I find these debate incredibly beautiful, passionate as if you were people of Latin character, and I´ll use it for my classes as example of a great literary piece of theater.. As the same teacher, I feel my pleasant duty to close debate - we teachers in Oxford not letting any other one closes debate - with the following part of the piece:

"Where be these enemies?, Blazers, Warriors.
See what a scourge is laid upon your hate,
That heavens finds means to kill your joys with love!.
And I, for winking at your discords too,
Have lost a brace of kinsmen: all are punished."

In my Spanish roll, I would already be replying to those cursed Warriors pulling out my "navaja", failing a carving or fish knife, and telling them that they do not have enough blood in the veins to cleanse the affront, what I would say, of course, from my house, bearing in mind that Second Amendment of USA Constitution.

I like Brandon Roy, whatever planet he comes from. (Bill Walton?)

by amlmart1 on Feb 1, 2008 2:54 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

I am loving your comments more and more1
You made me chuckle!
"No way. I love this town. We're gonna bring back the glory years. These boys are my boys. This is my team and my town." - Greg Oden when asked about leaving.

by ratbastird on Feb 1, 2008 7:11 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Man, how do you guys find time to read GSoM?
I spend far too much time here at BE.  No way do I have the time to be reading another team's blog so thoroughly that I'm complaining about it.

by timg56 on Feb 1, 2008 8:26 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

BD is a supreme talent and
He is also a bit of a punk & showboat.  BD is more talented/productive than Roy, but this is a popularity contest decided on by  the coaches.  Many of these coaches and their players have been shown up by BD.

by tweener on Feb 1, 2008 10:28 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

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