Bounce Back or Flatten Out?
I'm really interested to see how the Blazers will proceed following last night's game. Let's face it...we have been pretty flat the last couple of outings. It took a ton of determination and good fortune to beat the Hawks. Is the flatline due to opponents keying in on us, our own physical fatigue, or many of our players not being used to the mental/emotional grind of the season?
I rather suspect it's the latter, which makes this next game very interesting. This team, as most young teams do, depends on emotion and conviction to win. They're at their best when they're rooting for each other, attacking the game with vigor, hugging and jumping on the way off of the floor after a victory. When the wind goes out of the sails we're not that good. Anyone remember the stunning loss in Philadelphia precipitating our worst losing jag of the season? On the other hand a big reason we won out through December was our (perhaps naive) belief that we could win no matter what the circumstances.
Last night's game was a classic example of winning no matter what the circumstances. Will this bounce us back into energetic, winning play? Or will the lethargy make a comeback, overwhelming that brilliant, sparkling fourth quarter?
It'll be interesting to see what kind of opposition LeBron finds when he comes to town.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
P.S. If you liked the little interview on 1080 The Fan last Saturday you're in luck. It's becoming a regular feature. The time slot will be 10:10 every Saturday morning on the Sports Saturday show. It won't be a long segment, but we'll have time to discuss the week's trends and a few other interesting questions.
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Way to go Dave
Great Game! New Blazer Blog to check out!
New blog to check out:
http://blazersog.wordpress.com/
Keep up the good work here guys...Go Blazers!
by jpeters2 on Jan 28, 2008 1:14 PM PST reply actions
I asked myself the same question
By the way, my seats are right with the Blazer family seats, and Brandon's fiance', and family and friends, were there, as usual cheering louder than anyone else. They also give Brandon a little hand/finger mojo when he shoots foul shots. I saw when he missed that first shot that it looked too hard when it left his hands, and his family saw it too. When it left his hands, we all said, "It looks long."
One other thing to mention is the flagrant by Jones. I am not sure if JJ was just trying to fire up the team by that hard foul. I think he was getting fed up with the Hawks flying down the court, uncontested. Maybe he was just giving them something to think about.
by BlazerScott on Jan 28, 2008 1:35 PM PST reply actions
Me Too
Yes
The team looks tired and I'm sure they're looking forward to the all-star break.
by jon @ Blazer's Edge on Jan 28, 2008 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
you hit the nail on the head here
by DraftKevinDurant on Jan 28, 2008 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
I think the blazer's youth really showed through
I think the two mikes had a good point in the broadcast; basically teams have figured out that all you have to do is press Brandon on the perimeter with double teams, and break up the pick & roll and you have a good chance of disrupting the team's offense, I credit Nate for coming up with an adjustment of Brandon passing into the high post where guys like Channing and LA were able to press an advantage.
Cleveland is going to be a tall order, but I'm confident they'll give them good fight.
Team growth
Well, they sorta figured out how to beat
So if they can consistently beat the trap like that, their offense should be in a lot better shape because practically everything depends on Brandon Roy offensively, and we know that the Blazers, young as they are play better defense when they are scoring. That trap was huge for both the Hornets and the Rockets.
So I'll go ahead and drink the Kool-aid and say the Blazers will win a few in a row because they will have solved the trap at the top of the key.
Attention on Roy and Being Tired.
What should the team practice?
- Work on practicing how to handle trapped pick and rolls. Slip screens up the middle, double screens, and hand offs. Jack and Sergio definitely need to work on it. The bigs, Aldridge and Frye, will have more responsibility in decision making with the ball too.
- Zone defense. Our zone defense is being exploited on the baseline and over the top to the weak side, like the two alley oops in the Hawks game.
- Transition defense. No excuse to allow scores in transition after made buckets.
- Alridge post ups. I sense that we will need him to improve his post ups for us to get open looks when the pick n' rolls aren't working.
- Playing against aggressive/physical defense. We need to knuckle up when people challenge us on offense. Make crisp passes and use their aggressiveness against them with cuts to the basket.
After this nice rest
They clearly need rest and then practice time to add a few wrinkles to their attack, how to better thwart the trapping other teams do on the pick n' roll and other stuff smarter peoples have mentioned. I'm glad the Atlanta game was in the afternoon, so they got the evening and the next day to sleep and dream of me dreaming of them, and then get to practice on Tuesday and be ready to let Lebron do whatever he wants while no one else does anything.
The Cavs are a bad team. Like, bad bad. Lebron is so amazing he can cover up a lot of their awfulness and will his team to solid victories. You can't stop him. The best you can do is hope he feels like taking a lot of jumpers that day, and that he hasn't been practicing a consistent release lately (when he fades back on normal jumpers he'll miss most of them). Take away his playmaking ability and you shut down the rest of the team-- no one can make their own shot (no one who can score, that is).
This was a big, big win. We didn't deserve it, but it ends a small losing streak and makes the day off and practice a whole lot nicer. Now the Cavs game doesn't have as much pressure and we'll be more likely to win the dang thing. It was great timing for a win, like we have seemed to do all year with our losses.
That 4th quarter exorcised the recent lame play, I hope.
They just need some nap time with their binkeys and maybe a relaxing hot air balloon trip.
Mortimer
Last night's victory was ....
There is no way to tell
We have 4 home games followed by 4 road games. A split of the home games would be reasonable, considering the opponents (Cav's, Knicks, Nuggets & Bulls). Winning one on the road is all we should expect (Pistons, Pacers, Rockets & Mav's). We could go 3-5 the next two weeks and it would not be indicative of anything but a tough schedule.
Perhaps the second half of Feb will be a better indicator. We play Seattle and the Lakers twice, along with the Kings and Clips. If we win fail to win at least three of those, then I'd say we have evidence of wallitis. Of course it also depends on how we lose. It is possible to play well and still lose.
Dave's New Gig; Blazer's bounce-back
I think folks have already said plenty of valid things about tiredness, etc. The most telling thing is that the coaching staff is talking openly about it instead of saying "suck it up." That shows a real respect of the players by the coaches for their effort and their devotion to the team and craft. I think Cleveland can be a good matchup (knock on wood) with Pavlovich down and Varejao dinged, because we should have too many weapons for them to deal with, unless Lebron goes 45/15/15 on us.
Thanks for the discussion all!
I'm pretty concerned
16 and 8 on 7-11
Not to beat a dead horse
Martel's only been in the league 2.5 years. He'd only be a junior in college.
LMA still needs to build the core strength and upper body mass that it tool Jermaine O'Neal 6 or 7 years in the league to build.
Jack isn't a finesse player going to the rim, but he blows stuff up every once in a while. He gets the defense out of their comfort zone even when he does look like he should be going at a tacking dummy instead of the hoop. And he's young too, especially for a point.
I'll be concerned if they still look like this, at this point in the season in 2010.
by bubba on Jan 28, 2008 3:34 PM PST reply actions
Playing on the Lead
I want to see another game like we had against the Nets. And I want to see us press the save button. We need some easy, front-running wins. There is no way these guys, young as they are, can lay everything on the line every game for 82+. Nor is there any reason they have to if they can build leads and make other teams struggle and burn all their energy.
Nate needs to set a curfew
No more soda after dinner time
It drives Nate CRAZY, and makes Sergio grouchy and tired the entire next day. And if LMA is staying over, forget about it. You'll think they're in bed but before you know it they're sliding down the stairs on flattened cardboard, making a racket. Before the win streak started, Nate made the rule that sleepovers on a pre-game night aren't allowed, and since then they've played better than ever.
But he's gotta remain strict, because if you give kids an inch they'll tear out your heart.
Also, no more phone after 9pm. Martell and Travis keep calling Rebecca Harlow and hanging up over and over. Martell says Travis likes her and just wants to ask Becca if she likes Travis, but Travis is too shy and hangs up the phone each time. "Aww, shucks, hahaha, Naw I don't c'mon, ahhhh..."
They're good kids, but need stern guidance. Nate is doing a good job.
Mortimer
Don't forget
by 92wastheyear on Jan 28, 2008 6:01 PM PST up reply actions
Since Travis has no hair on the top of his head...
Dont feed them after midnight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBKeapt0rKY
I think that is what the Blazer plane looks like after the boys get into the booz.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jan 28, 2008 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
Great topic
LaMarcus started to look a lot better in that 2nd half. If he can get going it would be a MAJOR boost.
Hopefully a couple days without a game will allow the team to come out with some energy and play like we did during the winning streak (or at least closer to that level than to the 5-12 level).
Same as most everyone else
The combo of physical and mental fatigue and no practice have allowed teams to take advantage of the Blazers. They will get rest and practice and with that bounce back. They may not win 13 straight again this season but they will get back to playing good ball and competing. Heck they have at least been competing while they have been struggling.
Look Out Dave!!
I agree with all. They were fatigued, to say the least, the last couple of games. They never fully recovered. I'll bet we see a lot more energy out of 'em on Wednesday. It'll still be a tough one to win. The Cavs won't fold on them the way the Hawks did. King James will be a little more difficult for Roy to defend than Joe.
In a sense,
Prior to The Streak, the Blazers were classed with the T'Wolves, Sonics and the league's other bottom feeders. A mere 13 games later - voila - they're suddenly hailed as playoff contenders. And so, instead of patiently accepting the growing pains that are characteristic of a young, developing team, fans begin angrily calling for the heads of Jack, Sergio, Frye, Martell or whoever else may have failed to deliver on a given night.
In my estimation, the Blazers are not yet playoff calibre. Nor are they bottom feeders, either. Right now, they look very much like a .500 team who's coming back down to earth after a remarkable run. If you go back and review the preseason predictions made by the people on this site, that's actually better than just about all of you expected. Yet, in the wake of a 13-game winning streak, .500 doesn't look so hotsy-totsy anymore.
Jeez, people, lighten up will'ya. Some of you are getting so overwrought about some chimerical playoff hopes that you are forgetting to enjoy what may one day be regarded as one of your team's most amazing seasons, ever. The shock and joy of the unexpected is what ultimately provides us sports fans with our most memorable rooting experiences. A great example is the playoff run that my Giants are on. A mediocre team during the NFL regular season, they've defeated three quality opponents in the postseason. Now they're poised to play in the Super Bowl. Do I expect them to beat the 18-0 Pats? No, I don't. Will I be disappointed if they lose. A little, I suppose. But that disappointment will be more than outweighed by the joy they've given me with their unexpected success. And if by some grace of the football gods they manage to win the Big Game, it will undoubtedly rank as one of the most exhilirating sports moments of my entire life as a fan. What the Blazers have accomplished thus far this season is not all that dis-similar from what the Giants have done in terms of exceeding the little had been expected of them.
Contrast that outlook with that of, say, the Yankee fan who views his season as a failure unless his team wins the World Series. For those fans, expectations are so ridiculously high that victory produces emotions closer to relief than exultation. Next year, when Oden returns, Blazerfan will also begin to have to deal with that heightened weight of expectation. At the very minimum, pundit and fan alike will regard anything less than a playoff appearance as a setback. The exhiliration of unexpected progress that you're currently witnessing will be replaced by a more methodical accounting of success and failure as your team begins its steady, arduous climb toward Elite status.
In short, what the Blazers are giving you now is something that's so special and rare, it transcends just the simple reckoning of wins and losses. The players and coaches all recognize this; Jason Quick sees it; even Pritchard gets it. It's sad, then, that there are so many here who seem to have lost sight of it.
excellent post
One small bone to pick: Even at 5-12 NOBODY was saying we were as bad as the Timberpuppies. We were more on the level of the Grizzlies and Clippers.
Thanks knickfan
Do you think the Giants are going to get all the questionable calls, or will they go to the Patriots? I don't trust the officials and think the Giants Patriots are going to extra men on the field wearing stripes.
Awe dang it
I don't trust the officials and think the Patriots are going to extra men on the field wearing stripes.
While I didn't really intend to
From a historical standpoint as well as a storybook one, the prospect of an undefeated season is just too enticing to pass up. I think a lot of people have an emotional investment in seeing it come to fruition. So, while I don't think the game will be "fixed" in the traditional sense, it's probably the case that the officials have bought into the dominant narrative line and will - consciously or not - help it along. Someone had to be the sacrificial lamb in this little pageant. That appears to be the Giants' role this year.
Sorry, I feel the same way
I used "Preview" in my last comment and still had a typo. How cool is that?
by tominhawaii on Jan 28, 2008 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
If you were a Blazer fan
You made my toes curl.
--Dave
Listen to what Knickfan says.
Have we forgotten that our team is the youngest in the league? The third youngest in league history? We have exactly 4 guys on this team who play regularly that played four years of college ball. Both physically and experience wise most of our team still has a lot of growing and developing to do. Meanwhile they are providing us with winning basketball.
I have to wonder if some here beat their kids or put them up for foster care when they spill a glass of milk at the dinner table or bring home a C- on a test.
What criticisms exactly are you talking about?
If you mean people that want to jump off a bridge because we lost two in a row or who think the world will end if we fall out of the 8th seed this year I kind of understand, but that's not really what I'd call "criticism".
But if you mean nobody should ever say anything critical about the team or they're not a fan I can't get on board with that.
Blanket critiques like "stuff we see on here" are seldom helpful. They're often semi-accurate responses to one or two comments. Some clarification of what you mean would help.
--Dave
Timing
It would be nice if some waited for a trend to actually develop before unleashing the criticism. I mean if a strategy works more often than not, it is difficult to fault Nate for going with the percentages.
That said, if certain opinions are annoying, it is best not to keep reading them over and over.
Yah
Another way of putting is if something works 8 out of 9 times it's probably a good idea...even on that 9th time.
--Dave
I call for Nate's head ...
That said, I hope he steps back in more to reset the team. The kids have been playing well together, but they still got a ways to go. They need new stuff to beat a better prepared league. Nobody thinks we're the T'wolves anymore.

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