Garnett
One of the main subplots in last night's game appears to be Kevin Garnett and his chatter. The Boston feed didn't highlight it too much but apparently the Portland side noticed his trash talking. Since the conversation is happening in many threads I figured we should centralize it.
--Does it bother you that Garnett jawed at the Blazers?
--Do you think it got under Portland's skin and affected the performance last night?
--How is KG different than other trash talkers?
I will add a shade of my own to this: part of it at least we brought upon ourselves. I don't mean the players necessarily. I think they've been going about their business in a quiet and professional manner. But the Boston folks had to have heard the talk around the league, in the power rankings, in the newsclips, maybe even among the Portland fanbase about whether the Blazers were for real...or maybe even an elite team. Even the Boston announcers started the game saying this would be a tough game for the Celtics, as if it were a meeting of two equals. I think part of Boston's mission was to prove that it wasn't. This isn't anything personal against Portland. Anybody who came in there assuming equality was going to get put down. Portland is not at Boston's level yet, so in essence our headlines were writing checks that the team couldn't cash. I bet part of KG's chatter was sending that message. Had we come in there and trounced the Celtics I assume the trash-talking would have been more subdued. Same thing probably had we come in with an 8-28 record. I'm sure that--overtly or covertly--the message from the Celtics today is "People said the Blazers might be a top team but now you know in no uncertain terms who the top team is. And don't forget it."
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
P.S. Note that Casey wrote about this subject even before we did.
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The stat line shows
by hobobob on
Jan 17, 2008 1:48 PM PST
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by mark twain on
Jan 17, 2008 1:54 PM PST
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by mark twain on
Jan 17, 2008 1:51 PM PST
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I don't think the talking bothered Joel and LMA
by TheHeadBandWagon on
Jan 17, 2008 4:08 PM PST
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That's actually a sign of a good player.
A lot of people complain about flopping, but I believe it's a result of how officials call contact.
by timg56 on
Jan 18, 2008 6:46 AM PST
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Trash Talking
Does it bother me that KG was trash talking? No. Not at all. In fact, he's probably doing us a favor. This team needs to learn how to handle it. The fact that the Celtics were actually afraid enough of the Blazers to pull out all the psychological tactics they'd normally reserve for the playoffs is actually kind of flattering.
Do I think it got under Portland's skin and affected the performance last night? Yes indeed. It did. But that's part of the learning experience. And you can bet, with the way this team is picking things up, that they will learn from this not only how to handle themselves in such situations, but perhaps even learn how to effectively employ this as a weapon of their own.
KG actually strikes me as someone who only talks trash because he has learned that it gives him a competitive edge. If it didn't, he wouldn't say a word. In this, his attitude is similar to former celebrated trash-talkers, such as MJ, or Larry Legend. Where he differs is that he tends to save the jawing for special occasions. MJ and Larry would be jawing all game, every game, regardless. KG tends to pick his spots.
Honestly, we should thank Boston. Last night was one of the best learning experiences this team could possibly have used, and as an added bonus to the lesson in psychological warfare, this may have injected a healthy dose of humility into a team that was maybe, just maybe, starting to get a little too much ego going.
Look for the Blazers to take this game, and use it as motivation to reach that next level even faster.
by Majikj0n on
Jan 17, 2008 1:52 PM PST
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I hope not...
Maybe you want to see these high-class athletes of ours become barbarians, but I do not. The fact that they are so humble, selfless and civilized is a wonderful tribute to themselves and the organization - and something I can only hope will become a model for future generations.
by LaMarvelous on
Jan 17, 2008 7:11 PM PST
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Odom
I cant remember which talking head on ESPN it was, but he said that Boston has been running their mouths non stop vs everyone. He expected to see more retaliation throughout the remainder of the season.
Put 3 perennial loser-all stars on a team and they start winning, you gotta expect a heavy dose of trash talk.
I cannot wait for Detroit over Boston in 6.
by WALKING on
Jan 17, 2008 1:54 PM PST
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KG jawing
Did it get under Portland's skin - I don't know about the players (I'd think not). It certainly seemed to for a lot of the fans here.
How is KG different - I wouldn't say he is, but then I don't pay much attention to talkers. One of the things I like so much about our team. They keep their mouths shut and let their actions speak for them.
Does it change my perception of KG - not really. I don't know exactly what he was saying and how he was saying it. Even if I did, at most it might cause me to lower my opinion slightly, but only because I don't think much of trash talking. Overall I respect Garnett's game enough not to let it effect my opinion.
The best way to deal with talkers is to ignore them. They usually hate that.
by timg56 on
Jan 17, 2008 1:57 PM PST
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Talk
by CTBlazerfan on
Jan 17, 2008 2:01 PM PST
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Well said...
by LaMarvelous on
Jan 17, 2008 7:19 PM PST
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I can't wait 'til next year
It must suck to be a Celtics fan, to have everything bet on this one year, and knowing they can't even get past the Wiz let alone the Pistons, while the Blazers have many, many years of terrific team basketball ahead of them.
by kro on
Jan 17, 2008 2:03 PM PST
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Talk is cheap.
by ranma on
Jan 17, 2008 2:12 PM PST
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Much ado about nothing IMO
Speaking of trash talking... I generally don't waste time with the trash Canzano writes but I couldn't help myself today at lunch due to the headline. What a bunch of BS. The Blazers didn't lose their confidence at all. I believe they lost a little of their poise under the Celtic defensive pressure, but not thier confidence. Of course, JC has to sensationalize every possible thing and make stories up where they don't exist because that's his way.
by R11 on
Jan 17, 2008 2:16 PM PST
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Actually
by mark twain on
Jan 17, 2008 2:23 PM PST
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He said the Blazers lost "all courage"
by R11 on
Jan 17, 2008 4:06 PM PST
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I am thinking
--Dave
by Dave on
Jan 17, 2008 5:47 PM PST
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Who cares?
No, part of the game. Trashtalking especially from someone who backs it up is totally fine. Bird and Jordan were huge trashtalkers. Payton, whatever, who cares?
--Do you think it got under Portland's skin and affected the performance last night?
Maybe, although I don't really think so. Unlike that knucklehead Canzano, I think the main reason lma, frye and trout had difficulties is not because of the trashtalking, but, you know, because the celts are damned good and play amazing team defense.
--How is KG different than other trash talkers?
Not at all.
by howlingfantods on
Jan 17, 2008 2:19 PM PST
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Seems like it was a factor
Rather than respond with words, or even good play, I would have liked a little heat.
Seems to me that if Aldridge is really gonna be that post presence, he needs to be capable of being dominant. I'm not saying play dirty, or only play that way, but I think the truly great physical players have a key ability. Look, they say, I can beat with my smooth finesse and skill, or I can come at ya with the 'bows flying. A good hard foul was called for, to send a message.
I think that's what Lucas was really saying -- if he'd been in the game, he wouldn't have jawed back. He wouldn't have started forcing it on the offensive end. He would have started banging HARD on the defensive end and sent a message.
The message is very simple. You can run your mouth, but we ain't listening, and if you want a dirty game, we play rough, not talk rough.
Trash talking is a part of the game, and is an art in its own right. It was clearly s valuable tool for the C's last night.
But really, the bigger concern I think is the way Toronto and Boston have shown a solid blueprint for how to beat the team ball and zone the B's are playing. Expect to see more of it, and expect the Blazers to lost a game or two while they adjust.
by greyhound9 on
Jan 17, 2008 2:26 PM PST
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talk talk talk
by clonigro on
Jan 17, 2008 2:27 PM PST
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KG
by Corvid on
Jan 17, 2008 2:32 PM PST
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Since When?
In my opinion, no. I don't think too much of people who condone this kind of conduct either.
by coastrider on
Jan 17, 2008 2:52 PM PST
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The league
The league basically doesn't take it that seriously. People like Garnett are clowns. If you take a step back, it's kind of humorous to watch him.
by ranma on
Jan 17, 2008 3:05 PM PST
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If you
And I think they should do it. This is a family atmosphere, not Tuesday night open gym.
by jamon51 on
Jan 17, 2008 3:21 PM PST
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Also
Rules here:
http://www.blazersedge.com/story/2007/5/27/35733/4476
by jamon51 on
Jan 17, 2008 3:25 PM PST
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Well, ok, I'll just
I have a feeling the Player's union would have something to say about the idea of doling out technicals everytime someone curses. It's one thing to call a travel every time someone carries the ball over when they might not be used to seeing that called (like we've seen with points of emphasis). But that's basketball.
Cursing has nothing to specifically do with basketball. It's not even a sign of the times. People have always cursed, especially a bunch of athletes trying hard to compete. It's just something you either care about or you don't. The league doesn't. They try their best not to mike it to the audience, and they go on with their lives.
by ranma on
Jan 17, 2008 3:44 PM PST
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Reading those would be good for all who haven't
Also of note lately: disguised symbol profanity is also not allowed except for the traditional comic strip @#$*#!!! depiction. However Ramna was quoting Garnett directly, which is the one exception. That's exactly what KG said.
--Dave
by Dave on
Jan 17, 2008 3:45 PM PST
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I guess
by jamon51 on
Jan 18, 2008 11:04 AM PST
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Uh oh, Dave
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Jan 18, 2008 11:53 PM PST
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I think everyone
Joel said KG has been trash talking him for 8 yrs. so if it bothered Joel as someone suggested, he has never learned to deal with it which is a little disconcerting. But I don't think the talk caused the frustration, turnovers, etc. As I said in another thread, I don't think this team has faced anyone before who came out with the intention of pounding them into the ground. Boston wouldn't have been able to hold their heads up if we had beaten them - the Wiz? yeah cuz that was a fluke - but these young upstarts? Show them who is best. I don't think it was as easy as Boston hoped so they did everything they could. They were fighting for a lot more than we were last night. (And rereading Dave's post I see I simply restated his thoughts. Someday I'll learn to read every single word before I reply.)
Trash talking is part of the game but I think it is foolish - mainly because it can make the talker look foolish (can you say Gilbert Arenas?).
As long as our guys learn to play through it and not get caught up in answering back (except through superb play) they'll be OK. (It would sure as #$@&%& wreck my concentration, but then I'm a sensitive shy 98# weakling.)
by jorga on
Jan 17, 2008 2:54 PM PST
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Dont bring your kids to the celtics game
by Sabonis4Ever on
Jan 17, 2008 2:58 PM PST
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What bugged me
I would love to see LMA get in KG's face a bit more, he seemed affected by KG's constant babble. Either stand up to him, chest to chest and make him respect you, or he will do this every time you play him. It's not personal, it is just talkin, nothing wrong with it, but I did feel there was something wrong with how the Blazers handled it.
BTW I love B.Roy's quote after the game when asked about the Talk and intimidation affecting the team, "it won't happen next time". That is what I am talking about. On 2/24 when Boston comes to Portland show them how good we really are, no quit, no backin down, just winning basketball.
by usmcr3049 on
Jan 17, 2008 3:02 PM PST
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I can't see being intimidated physically by KG
If I were LA I would say," KG you're a great player. But don't try to be a tough guy. If you keep it up I will be forced to knock you on your butt in front of your fans. Talk all the smack you want but lay a hand on me and I WILL END IT! Maybe do a couple snap kicks into the air as you run back up the court.
OK, I have an over active imagination.
You always have to stand up to the bully, it takes away their power. Who cares about the talking trash, ignor that. But if someone tries to physically intimidate you.. Put a stop to it.. Quickly.
by jferg on
Jan 17, 2008 3:03 PM PST
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SNAP KICKS?!?!?!?!!?
by hobobob on
Jan 17, 2008 3:23 PM PST
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Wait until Oden develops a mean streak.
by timg56 on
Jan 18, 2008 7:10 AM PST
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I think trash talk is funny
My biggest concern from last night was the cussing in front of the Blazers. They are the youngest team in the league, and I feel they are too young to be exposed to those kinds of words.
by tominhawaii on
Jan 17, 2008 3:07 PM PST
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Too much emphasis on trash talk
I'm not talking about him pushing someone or out muscling them, I'm talking about Garnett guarding Aldridge so close that Aldridge couldn't move.
So KG is drapped all over whoever is guarding like a coat. And when Aldridge tries to post up, he get called for an offensive foul. Outlaw tried to show that KG was impeding progress, but it wasn't getting called so he finally came down the court and gave KG a shoulder which got called as an offensive foul.
I'm not saying that the calls should have gone the Blazers way (although the Aldridge offensive foul was puzzling). My main point is that KG was all over the players away from the ball. They couldn't cut, they couldn't dribble, and they didn't seem to be able to figure out how to get the foul called.
I've played games where someone has decided that they are going to shadow your every move, drape themselves over you, and dare you (in a pickup game) to call it every time down the court. That is essentially what KG was doing.
And then he was talking trash on top of it. My point is this: trash talking absent the way he was guarding people wouldn't have had an impact. By the time someone makes it to the NBA, they've played enough basketball to have heard a ton of trash talking.
What happened was the trash talking came on the heals of being unable to address the physical nature of KG's defense. Figure out a way to be effective with someone who is invading your personal space on every possession, and the trash talking won't ever become an issue.
by grigs on
Jan 17, 2008 3:20 PM PST
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I agree that it bothered
Re: Garnett, I was one of the folks that started a thread re: KG's behavior. To be clear, his trash talking didn't bother me, though I prefer my basketball without it.
I just wanted to point out what a cantankerous, joyless group those guys have in their Big 3, coupled with a deer-in-headlights coach, a squirming GM in the stands, a supporting cast who's fortunes have been tied to group of wild-eyed, desperate gamblers who have just gone all-in; playing in front of a practically numb fan base who simultaneously expects greatness, while still figuring out if they actually like their team.
If there has ever been a crappy 31- 6 team, this is it, and in that context, KG's demonstrative, almost desperate, trash-talking is kind of sad.
by royalridge on
Jan 17, 2008 3:22 PM PST
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Garnett
Garnett wants to win every game too much.He is one guy that if the blazers would have traded for him I would stop watching them. Wasn't it him that grabbed chris Kamens kiwis from behind?
Talk about "ballin."
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Jan 17, 2008 3:27 PM PST
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No it wasn't him
Damn that was funny.
by iDea on
Jan 17, 2008 3:34 PM PST
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KG did elbow
by Lance Uppercut on
Jan 17, 2008 3:40 PM PST
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Tell that to Joel
by DonkeyShins on
Jan 18, 2008 11:55 PM PST
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It wasn't Garnett
But KG is a punk nonetheless. If the Blazers were giving him attitude in his house, then maybe you go off the deep end like he did last night. But if you're the only one talking, you're an jerk. When Antonio McDyess tried to throw down with KG, KG ran. It's proof that some guys, when they go uncheck for too long, get to thinking that they're tougher than they really are.
by Lance Uppercut on
Jan 17, 2008 3:39 PM PST
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Sorry for the omission Casey
--Dave
by Dave on
Jan 17, 2008 3:48 PM PST
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Completely unnecessary
by Lance Uppercut on
Jan 17, 2008 3:51 PM PST
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nice clip
by mark twain on
Jan 17, 2008 8:43 PM PST
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Where can we see this?
by timg56 on
Jan 18, 2008 7:02 AM PST
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what?
Wow. Who cares... it is a part of the game and it always has been.
by Jack Burton on
Jan 17, 2008 3:55 PM PST
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True, but
by Lance Uppercut on
Jan 17, 2008 4:12 PM PST
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Fighting can hurt people,
by ranma on
Jan 17, 2008 4:20 PM PST
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True enough
by Lance Uppercut on
Jan 17, 2008 4:35 PM PST
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They did it because of
by ranma on
Jan 17, 2008 5:02 PM PST
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That's petty much what Mo Lucas said.
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Jan 18, 2008 7:04 AM PST
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I ask myself
Yes, we get it he's psyched, and he wants to win.
Stagger Lee
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Jan 17, 2008 4:46 PM PST
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Sometimes I enjoy it...
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Jan 17, 2008 5:59 PM PST
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Trash talk is part of KG's game but
But, it is a part of his tenacity and his demonstration of how he gets into games. And he stays out of trouble, doesn't he? This isn't a Stephen Jackson we're talking about. (Though he hasn't done anything terrible lately).
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Jan 17, 2008 4:48 PM PST
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Muzzle?
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Danny Ainge
by Kampeska on
Jan 17, 2008 4:55 PM PST
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Mike Barrett's blog
This is the reason I think KG is a punk. The yapping is one thing but this is physical intimidation and is prohibited and should be a fine or suspension and a T if the game has started
by 92wastheyear on
Jan 17, 2008 6:21 PM PST
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I'm not mad at Garnett
The team has to get tougher and stand up for themselves. They need an enforcer so Garnett and all the other jerks in the league don't pull this kind of crap.
I guarantee you if this team becomes eventual playoff mainstays we are going to get tagged with the "soft" label year after year.
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Jan 17, 2008 8:47 PM PST
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I disagree
PS when Oden is in the lineup and we are going to the playoffs I'll bet ya Priz will go out there and deck Garnett. He not give a crap if he has to sit out a couple of games. They will not be labled soft
by 92wastheyear on
Jan 17, 2008 9:01 PM PST
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Read that passage again
If someone threw a basketball at you are you saying you would just stand there? And this is just my interpretation but the way Barrett writes makes it seem Martell was scared hence the "shocked".
This wasn't Martell being mad but displaying a incredible amount of self-control. It was the school yard bully shoving him and the guy just freezing.
If someone does that you need to at least confront the guy.
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Jan 17, 2008 9:30 PM PST
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Shocked does not mean scared
by R11 on
Jan 18, 2008 5:08 PM PST
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I just watched the Garnett fight with McDyess.
It was almost as if he was like, "Oh crap, someone is actually calling my bluff. I'm outta here!"
by jferg on
Jan 17, 2008 6:56 PM PST
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My Smack
No. I was listening on the radio and did not hear or see any trash talkin'.
People talk, players talk, some times we even yell. What I do and how I react is all that I can control. I try to except what I cannot change.
--Do you think it got under Portland's skin and affected the performance last night?
Don't know.
I only know my own experiences. I was a Baseball Player (Kendrick #9, strong armed, wide ranging, switch hitting SS) evolving into a Softball player, Fast pitch Softball Coaches Asst. for the Lady Cheesemakers), Handball, Tennis (in my Freshman Year, chose Baseball) and still playing Racquetball. Hearing distance in Baseball for me was infrequent. Usually happening with interaction with men on base. Lotta talkin' `bout leadin' and stealin', no you can't, yes I can, can't, can, I'm Fast Freddy, Fastest man on the team, no you ain't, yes I am. Liar, you da liar, no I'm not, yes you are, not, are, so on and so forth. One time I remember, because I shined. Was during a game in the rain. The infield was muddy. I was diving for grounders because I didn't what to trust my footing. Had just dove for a grounder and caught it, in the gap between the third baseman and shortstop. The opposing Team's Third base Coach yelled at me. "Can't you stay on your feet". That made me a better SS. Seems like the next hit was in the same area! I planted my right foot in the mud, trusting my cleats to dig in and turned the double (no big deal led the league). That bit o' jawin' made a BIG difference in the way I played, learning, from being pushed, in what I could do. Good Coach, Thank you Jim Bedford! So that is. Enjoyed every bit of it and in my early (Marshall/Lincoln High School, Connie Mack years, helped me grow.
Let's go to a more (one of the closest) intimate sport. Handball (Racquetball is the same) where you stand shoulder to shoulder, one on one, maybe no one else around. I was asked to play a visiting Air Force Officer, because I was the best the county could offer, ('77 State Championship got me with the scheduling. Remember showering and sleeping at my Brother-in-Laws house). He had a Z serve I couldn't hit. Never said a thing CREEPED ME OUT. I'm tying to get a return on it and can't, until it is way to late. May have or may have not thanked him for the game. I was P.O.'d, this I remember.
Another memory that is stuck in my mind. Frickin' Co-Ed Softball. This means both sexes play. My advice, a lot of fun but totally different emotions on the field of combat! This is the only time I have left the fielding in a huff, unwilling to acknowledge another human beings presence! The batter is a "Lady Who Hates Me", Because of my High School Coaching. She had an arrogant (fielding Hitting SLOW PITCH daughter, who would not listen to (my daughters led Fast Pitch ways). I`m pitchin', Slow pitch, game is tied. The Mother who hate Me is up to bat. I'm droppin' the ball, dead center, right behind the plate. Ump's callin' "BALLS". Bases are loaded (why? Don't remember. Probably my fault, maybe why I'm in. The Mother takes four called balls. That are droppin' behind the plate! We lose the Game! I am so P.O. that someone would take a win on walks, in a Slow Pitch Game, that I walk off the field, get my gear and acknowledge, NO ONE, NO HOW.
My daughter played her first Jr. High, Basketball Game, last night. Gots one rebound and was 0 for 2 FGs (I'm listening to the game on an FM Radio w/an "Ear Bud"). She ran up and down the court, beyond my expectations. Never a word between her and who she was guarding. Talking to her after the game about using your butt, hips and shoulders to hold or gain position, I said to her: ask the girl you're defending, Her name, what she does, what she wants to do. Why did I suggest this? You get to bond with the people you are plying with. I also knew it would be a momentary distraction, if she listened, giving my Daughter an advantage. So is competitive sports. Enjoy and partake.
The only "In Game" comment I made, was when I heard the Mikes say that KG did Not shake the hands of the Opposing Player, like usual for him. I than made a !/2 attempt at humor comment, to a post. That KG didn't shake your hand either. So it is.
--How is KG different than other trash talkers?
Don't have the slightest idea. I know I enjoyed Gary Patton's Talkin'. It seemed to be a pleasure for him to dot this. It was done with joy and exuberance. Some times he would look as serious as hell but if you watched him long enough, there would be a smile of pleasure, on his face.
"Lenny Suckerpunch NEVER bet on me!" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on
Jan 17, 2008 7:03 PM PST
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Trash talking
But did anybody see on youtube where LaMarcus cussed at Ricky Davis after making a clutch free throw in response to Davis's jawing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD9yGYVYGMk
We just couldn't say anything back this time because we were on the losing end of the stick.
Maybe we also need an enforcer type veteran. All of our guys are young and soft. Where's the Dale Davis, Brian Grant, etc. They don't have to be bad guys but this team will definitely need a mean streak in the future... one that isn't going to come from Greg Oden, he's another nice guy.
by crhsrunner on
Jan 17, 2008 9:19 PM PST
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I agree
They can be as nice as they want off the court but on the court I want to see some testoserone.
I'm not saying we need to recreate the Detroit-Indiana fight. But if Garnett or some other punk is bumping you you need to bump back.
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Jan 17, 2008 9:34 PM PST
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Hmmmmmm...
Who revved up his mouth like a 'Vette
but we can't help saying
twelve years he's been playing
and he still ain't won nothin' yet
by Dave on
Jan 17, 2008 10:04 PM PST
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To Much Tell
of the Blazers loss,
runs the all-time loser,
headlong to his death.
You feel the piston scraping --
steam breaking on your brow --
Some one stole the handle and
the train won't stop going --
no it won't slow down.
His members and his best friend --
are postin' and having fun.
He's crawling down the corridor
on his hands and knees --
Some one stole the handle and
the train won't stop going --
no it won't slow down.
He hears the silence howling --
catches angels as they fall.
And the all-time winner
has got him by the balls.
He picks up Gideons Bible --
open at page one --
Some one stole the handle and
the train won't stop going --
no way to slow down.
"Lenny Suckerpunch NEVER bet on me!" - Elizabeth "The Lizzard" Lowblow
by Lizzy Lowblow on
Jan 17, 2008 10:30 PM PST
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Its not about the trash talking,
Now look at the economy, you start letting big coporation's "greed" slide by taking jobs oversea and giving loans to people to get quarterly reports up and now everybody's going to pay with a recession. People need look at the bigger picture. Everthing is connected. What you do effects everybody around you and that goes more when its on TV. Basketball is not a violent sport. Thats why I love wathcing good clean basketball instead of all evil doings of the world on TV. If I wanted to watch fighting I'll watch CNN or the local news. Our soldiers overseas, now they are "really" fighting. Whats right is right and whats wrong is wrong. Pick a side.
A big part of the problem is that the media has so much influence(propaganda) on how people think(for example the last ciggarette tax hike measure) that people stop using the head that can possible find the cure to AIDS instead of seeing who got the bigger one. If we let the media slide by saying its alright to do these "bad" things then the next generation thinks its alright. The US media makes money when "bad" things happen. What do you think the media wants to happen so they can keep the shareholders happy. I am man of principles so the trash talking and dirty play doesn't bother me, its the reasoning behind these acts. Because it's a fact that humans will do anything to get what they want but its alright if your a media icon/idol? What kind of message is that sending? I am not stupid and kids are getting smarter and its not like its a subliminal message or something.
The blazers will learn more from this lost than if they had won the game. Like Admiral Yamamoto said, "I'm afraid we just woken a sleeping giant."
by theanomaly777 on
Jan 18, 2008 12:28 AM PST
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not all trash talking is bad
by djblazin420 on
Jan 18, 2008 9:01 AM PST
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Kevin Garnett is a man of his word...
by MiledAnimal on
Jan 18, 2008 1:15 PM PST
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