Looking to the Future
Yesterday I talked about how nice it is to be a Blazer fan right now. I even got Truehooped for the trouble. (Yes, that's officially a verb now. Congrats Henry.) But even as we pass over a hurdle that once seemed all but impossible to leap I can't help reflecting that the next few are going to be considerably higher.
Even in the midst of our relative giddiness you have to admit that we're in kind of a honeymoon period here. So far every move has looked solid, every player has said incredible things, and (as I mentioned yesterday) we haven't suffered through even a single loss yet with the revamped roster. What's not to love?
I fully anticipate a minor letdown this year. I say "minor" because I don't really think most Blazer fans are expecting the moon this season. I'd bet a mid-to-high-30's win total would satisfy most folks when all is said and done (despite the intervening pain of losing 45 or more) and I think that's achievable.
If that seems low to you, well, that's the point. Part of the reason we're having a honeymoon--one which is likely to extend at least until next summer--is that the bar is so low right now. I'm not saying the good feelings are artificial. I'm saying they're not sustainable at this level...that the same stimuli are not going to evoke the same good feelings a couple years from now.
Think about it. After the last few years what are the major expectations for the team? I'd put them thusly:
- Play reasonably hard.
- Be reasonably cordial to the fans.
- Don't totally screw up in your off-court life.
- Don't totally blow your draft picks to the point that you're trading them away the next year.
- Don't be a total butthead to the people that cover you.
The Blazer community right now feels a lot like being parents of a kindergartner. Our child seems precocious. (But then what parent doesn't think their precious is the smartest thing ever?) Right now the kid is learning the basics of addition and that seems to be going swimmingly. Praise is warranted. But along with that praise comes the realization that a couple years from now addition isn't going to be sufficient. Subtraction and multiplication and division follow, then algebra, geometry, trig, and calculus. If the kid's still working on addition problems three years from now--even if he does them well--he's not precocious anymore, he's special needs.
Honeymoon or no, in another couple years I guarantee the Portland fan base will have largely forgotten how good it feels just to have a non-embarrassing team. They're going to start asking questions like, "Why can't we make the playoffs?" or "Why can't we get out of the first round?" Just "being good" won't be good enough anymore.
It might seem like this is a caution to the team--a "Beware the Ides of March" to Pritchard and company (et tu, Portland?)--but I think it's as much a caution to us as fans. We have made enormous strides. We deserve a cookie. But in real terms we've only passed the most basic of hurdles. We're still concentrating hard on doing things that other folks take for granted...on and off the court. The distance between us and where we want to be (and where the fans will be asking the team to be) is still about the distance between a banana-seat bike with training wheels and the Tour de France. There's a big difference between "That's good...for Portland" and just plain "That's good!" So far we've only seen the former. The latter may be a while in coming yet. The question is, how many fans will turn from ecstatic to grumpy in the meantime? How many folks who are gushing this summer will be grumbling come May?
We shall see.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Good thoughts
Back in 1970-76, it was always enough to keep your act together and play hard. They were our team, and they tried. Walton wasn't that popular because the bone spur thing made a lot of people doubt whether he was trying hard.
We never made the playoffs, and that was the dream.
Then came 1977, and we knew we were going to make the playoffs. Our heroes were really heroes, now, they won 49 games! And we had a decent chance of winning one round. Everyone would have been really, really happy with that. After all, for every Blazer fan, just to GET THERE, let alone win, was huge. So to win a round would be a bonus, like ordering a two-scoop ice cream cone and getting a third scoop for free.
Instead, we won the championship. And the next year, we started 50-10. It happened so fast -- perhaps too fast. All of a sudden, success was expected, demanded -- and it got hard to come by for a few years when key players went down injured.
Then, the Drexler/Porter/Kersey/Williams teams, and we were dreaming of a return to 1977, and nothing else would satisfy.
Now, for a brief period, we're back to 1970-76. If our team will just be OUR team and try hard, we'll back them all the way. But we won't feel that way for six years. Too many remember 1977, and the Drexler years. For this year, the playoffs is The Promised Land, the place you hope to get (if everyone on the team has their career year this year). If we make a good run at it, everyone's relatively happy -- this year.
But we were that way for years in the 70s, and people stayed happy. Won't happen again.
If we don't make the playoffs this year, we'll lose a few fans. If we don't make them next year, we'll lose a lot. And then, expectations will really go up. The Promised Land for 09-10 isn't making the playoffs, it is making the WCF, and the Finals the next year.
Fall short, and a lot of fans will drop away.
You gave it away when you talked about the Phoenix, San Antonio, or Dallas perspective. You could have talked about the Clippers or Sacramento or Memphis. But it will never be good enough again for Portland fans to have the perspective of Clippers fans. Maybe for a short time, yes -- but we've had success at the highest levels, we know what it tastes like, and we want it again.
Clippers fans don't actually believe the Clippers can get there. They might make the playoffs some years, in a dream year they might win a round. We're past that, now. We believe it can happen in Portland. That's why the Clippers fans' perspective won't ever do for us in the long term.
by jscot on Aug 8, 2007 2:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blazermania
by bbfred on Aug 8, 2007 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not impatient
last season i enjoyed watching them almost every time out. the team was competitive even though flawed.
we'll be more competitive this year, and it ought not be forgotten that golden state got into the playoffs last year and shook up the league after a regular season of 40-42.
this year there are a lot of storylines in which i feel i have some investment. marty burns and the other major nba writers are NEVER right about what they predict.
it's good that so many seem to have lowered their expectations about oden. and few seem to think outlaw will be any good. this leaves room for surprise. it'll be fun.
by ignacio on Aug 8, 2007 4:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Softball question:
Answer: All the ones who have unrealistic expectations today. All the ones who continuously misunderstand how the world really works. All the ones looking for instant gratification.
by ken on Aug 8, 2007 6:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ken
by fatty on Aug 8, 2007 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fatty...
If I had the $$$ I would have picked up tickets myself, but I have to go the poor mans route and hope I can afford to get an HD package to watch games on my projector at home.
It will take a while for them to get close to smelling a title and we wont ever begin to see the signs of it till 3 things happen:
- Roy has his break out game (it hasnt happened yet).
- Aldridge has his break out game.
- Oden has his break out game.
by Blazer on Aug 8, 2007 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the difference between
by fatty on Aug 8, 2007 6:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been mulling around a possible diary
Regarding Dave's question - from my perspective he's partly right in that having gotten a bit tired of all the off court adventures has brought me to a point of being happy to see Portland with a bunch of guys I can like and root for, regardless of their talent level.
But ... there's always one of those, but being tired of that stuff hasn't impacted my sense of fanship. I still root for the Blazers and love watching them, whether they win 21 games or 61 games. I grew up as a Washington Senators and Redskins fan. I remember Washington being estatic when Ted Williams was named manager and when he got the team to .500 one year the town went nuts. When Vince Lombardi was named coach of the Redskins people felt it was the second coming of Christ. Ok, in Lombardi's case it was the second coming of Christ. But before Lonbardi, Allen and Gibbs, the Redskins sucked.
Hell, I'm still a Redskins and Orioles fan. Not too many playoff appearances in the past 10 years for either of those organizations. O's fans are getting giddy over being just 6 games under ... that's right UNDER ... .0500 and the possibility of catching Toronto for 3rd place in the division. My point is that the couple years of losing Portland has experienced is nothing and unlike a lot of sports franchises, Portland fans actually have valid reasons to be hopeful for the future. And what aspect is more signature of being a fan than having hope for the future?
by timg56 on Aug 8, 2007 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boston
I don't really care what the international scene thinks unless it has validity. The goal in Portland appears to be to rebuild for a solid, long term run, not to clean house for one last shot at making a splash.
I like the plan. If they win 35 games this year and go down swinging, I'm happy. They are getting over the Whitsett and Nash/Patterson eras and investing in the right players for now.
by tssbro on Aug 8, 2007 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McMillan
by BrailleTaser on Aug 8, 2007 7:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You could be right
by drawingjeremy on Aug 8, 2007 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Pryzbilla plays like last year...
by tssbro on Aug 8, 2007 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
by Samuelson on Aug 8, 2007 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fans v bandwagon
so what? those of us who've continued to follow and pull for the team the last few years will do the same no matter what. When they go deep in the playoffs (09) the bandwagoners will come out of the woodwork.
but again... so what? look at how bad things were before last year and look at how promising the team looks now... all without the casual fan.
by rburg on Aug 8, 2007 8:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
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by Addicted to Quack on Aug 8, 2007 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We are so young.
by EnglandDan on Aug 8, 2007 10:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dave
by Samuelson on Aug 8, 2007 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be let down at all
However I believe that the atmosphere is so positively charged around Blazerland right now that the reality of losing 45-50 games is going to take people aback. I mean, right now you can't point to much tangible that's wrong with the team. But those flaws are going to start showing up in spades once the season starts: young, inconsistent, not enough outside shooting, confusion while adapting to a new Zach-less system, inability to handle double-teams. That's going to be a letdown for some who are looking at this team on paper and envisioning greatness. Even if you logically know that greatness will only come after a few years it's hard not to get amped early in your heart.
--Dave
by Dave on Aug 8, 2007 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put another way...
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that.
--Dave
by Dave on Aug 8, 2007 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent article
I thought that was especially apt.
by jamon51 on Aug 8, 2007 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds way too much...
by ken on Aug 8, 2007 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Kobe took three full years...
by NWfan on Aug 8, 2007 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmmmmmmmm
by shenanigans on Aug 8, 2007 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
stop being wusses
by bballgenius on Aug 8, 2007 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Great Karnac...
by ken on Aug 8, 2007 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's fantastic
The team would agree it's the smart thing to do: underpromise and overdeliver.
Which is exactly what they will do. We have more raw talent right now than any Blazer team in our history.
The wins will come, and perhaps sooner than anyone expects. Anytime you have 3 All-star caliber players in your starting 5, you are someone to contend with.
What is lost in this argument regarding the potential loss of fans is the fact that most fans, especially of the bandwagon variety, follow sports teams because of star players, not necessarily the team.
Win or lose, we will be able to offer dynamic and exciting basketball at the hands of players such as Roy, Oden, Aldridge, Outlaw, and Sergio.
Most fans, being superficial in nature, want amazing plays and players, not necessarily winning team basketball.
How else can you explain the unpopularity of the 4-time champion SA Spurs? Or the wild popularity of Jordan's early Bulls teams, which were mediocre at best?
The fans will stay; the wins and championships will come.
Don't underestimate the impact of GREG ODEN. He is an unbelievable talent and we will make sure he reaches his potential. We were already the most talented young team in the league. Now it's almost ridiculous.
by sohrab19 on Aug 8, 2007 12:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love your optimism
I do have an argument with the 3 all star caliber players comment. I hope you are right, but I definitely don't think we'll have 3 all star caliber players on this year's squad - based on this year's performance. Again, I hope you're right, but I think the only two that have a realistic shot at this elite level of play this year are BRoy and LMA. Both of whom may reach that level in 2007-2008, but I have to stress the may. I think both are going to be very good. I am convinced that LMA will be an All Star and that BRoy will probably go on and off the All Star team over the course of his career (make a few appearances). I also think it's highly likely that Oden will eventually be an all star caliber player, but that will probably take several years. If Mr. Oden can manage to average 15-20 minutes a game when the season comes to a close I think he will likely be coming along swimmingly and will get to that status sooner rather than later.
So, I hope you're right, boy do I hope you're right, but I think to under promise and over deliver we should be setting the bar no higher than around 30 wins. Most of us would be thrilled if we pushed towards or above 40 this year, I know I would.
by drawingjeremy on Aug 8, 2007 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow Dave
And the Blazers haven't even played together yet!! I'd say this discussion is valuable because it reminds us to keep our blinders off, and see things for what they are.
So what are they? Well, we have a young core of three potential all-stars. But that's all it is, potential. We also have strong athletic prospects, with developing skill sets, again, "prospects" and "developing". The point is we have all the pieces to develop into a championship contender. But that's IF all the pieces meet or exceed expectations. When someone eventually fails to meet the expectations, it's up to management to replace them.
I think anyone who says Aldridge, Oden, Roy, or Travis will definately NOT be successful, is setting themselves up to look quite foolish. But then again, anyone who thinks we're 100% in the playoffs is equally foolish.
by mjm6783 on Aug 8, 2007 1:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
well mjm
by fatty on Aug 8, 2007 1:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No way in hell?
The point is that we won't know how this talent has developed until at least training camp. I agree it's overly optimistic to think we will win a championship in one or two years. But your controlled pessimism has transitioned to nay saying.
by mjm6783 on Aug 9, 2007 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Progress...
I'm just excited to be able to witness this rebirth of our beloved team. We are going to be under .500 and I am betting there will be alot of close games this year. I expect Roy will solidify his place as a team leader. I expect LaMarcus will put the league on notice. I expect Oden will foul out alot and make some really amazing blocks and dunks in the process. There are going to be growing pains... And, I am excited as hell to get to watch it!
Beyond this year... Remember, we've got Rudy Fernandez coming, and most likely another lottery pick the next draft. There is so much more to the puzzle still on the way. We're just getting started, baby!
by david1978pdx on Aug 8, 2007 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Right
--Dave
by Dave on Aug 8, 2007 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One day at a time
by david1978pdx on Aug 8, 2007 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Blazers are looking at '09
by EnglandDan on Aug 9, 2007 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Progress Indeed
I wouldn't be shocked if we finish over .500, but with the schedule in April it promises to be tough.
We should all be excited about the playoffs or another chance at winning the lottery.
But the fun is really gonna peak in summer '09.
I, for one, love the "KP" phase of the season.
It's exciting to try and anticipate his personnel moves and draft picks. We are very lucky to have him, even if he doesn't mean what he says sometimes.
Minor irritant. Minor.
by sohrab19 on Aug 8, 2007 2:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm.....Don't get yer hopes up?
PS Since 1985, the team who had the overall #1 pick in the previous draft increased their win total by an average of 11.5 wins the folowing season. Greg Oden is far from average. Think about it
by 92wastheyear on Aug 8, 2007 7:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Position by position
- PG - Steve Blake gives a different dimension. JJack/Sergio will have seasoned another year. [Improved]
- SG - Roy is no longer a rookie and was improving rapidly the last month of the season. Martell won't get any worse. [Improved]
- SF - Replaced Ime with Trout and JJones. [Slightly worse]
- PF - Zach replaced with LMA/Frye. Tough one, but LMA's defense, screens, and court coverage make up for Zach. [Even]
- C - Oden will be better defensively than Magloire and will surprise with his offense. Pryz will presumably be healthy. [Slightly improved]
- Garnett, Ray Allen, Shard, JRich go East
- Elton Brand is out
- Spurs are getting old
- BDavis, Nash and Iverson are getting older and may be injury prone
- Dallas' win total may have peaked last year
- Memphis, Houston, Utah likely slightly improved
Barring injury, this team will be better than many here are anticipating. I'd say 42 wins and a playoff spot.
by Engineering Problem on Aug 8, 2007 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With some health luck I expect the Blazers's to
The unrealistic expecations in my mind are the automatic multiple championships so many are predicting.
We're likely to be excellent in near future, but the NBA championship is another matter. Every team out there is trying to do exactly what we are.
In my mind, there's way too much emphasis placed on winning that almighty ring for our players. It would be outstanding if that came to past, but there are other levels of success. Winning the Western Conference championship, or even playing for it are a couple of them - and good ones to boot.
by TwoDeep on Aug 8, 2007 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs
by PABlzrfn on Aug 9, 2007 9:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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