DRAFT TIME! First Round

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 3:44 PM PDT in News

Welcome to the live coverage of the NBA Draft on Blazersedge.

First news out of the gate tonight:

Jason Quick has confirmed that the Blazers will select Greg Oden from Ohio State with the first pick in the draft. Oden's agency spoke with Quick this afternoon.

Stay tuned for pick-by-pick and trade-by-trade coverage as the draft progresses.

Wait...what's this? New York police have apprehended a guy sneaking up behind Greg Oden with a lead pipe. The back of his t-shirt said DraftKevinDurant.com while the front said, "Gillooly RULEZ!" More on this story as it develops...

Update: ESPN has started their draft coverage and the opening montage showed Yi Jianlian trying to open a bottle of Sprite. He couldn't figure out how to get the cap off. I'm not sure if that's an omen but it probably doesn't speak well for his motor skills.

Update: ESPN is reporting that Kevin Garnett will NOT be moved tonight. The Seattle Ray Allen for #5, West, and Szczerbiak trade is being mentioned. Marcus Camby and Monta Ellis were mentioned in other trade possibilities.

Update: The yakety-yak is done. The draft is coming up next!

Stephen A Smith makes a public backtrack on his past criticism and gives Portland credit. Commissioner Stern approaches the podium...

With the first pick of the 2007 NBA Draft the Portland Trailblazers select...Greg Oden of Ohio State University! The Seattle SuperSonics are now on the clock.

They showed a shot of the Portland war room. Everyone was standing, applauding, and high-fiving.

Update: KP talking now about his "process". Says the deciding factor was who is going to get to the championship level. He says it's centers with athletic ability, character, and ability to change the game on both ends of the floor.

UPDATE ON THE TRADE RUMOR: Jason Quick says the accurate trade is Zach Randolph, Dan Dickau, and Freddie Jones for Steve Francis and Channing Frye. He says he believes the deal is done but he is waiting for confirmation from Kevin Pritchard to go to print.

TRADE IS ANNOUNCED ON ESPN...Standing ovation in Knick land (obviously).

Watch out for Stephen A. Smith reaction.

There's GOT to be another aspect to this, right? This was the best offer we could get for Zach? Here's my theory: Commissioner Stern comes to KP a month ago and says, "We're going to rig the first pick for you but you have to help the Knicks." That's the only thing I can think of right now.

THE DRAFT BOARD

1. Portland Greg Oden, Ohio State

2. Seattle Kevin Durant, Texas

3. Atlanta Al Horford, Florida

4. Memphis Michael Conley Jr., Ohio State

5. Boston Jeff Green, Georgetown

Trade forthcoming: Seattle moves Ray Allen and the #35 overall pick to Boston for Delonte West, Wally Szczerbiak, and Jeff Green.

6. Milwaukee Yi Jianlian, China

7. Minnesota Corey Brewer, Florida

8. Charlotte Brandan Wright, North Carolina

9. Chicago Joakim Noah, Florida

10. Sacramento Spencer Hawes, Washington

11. Atlanta Acie Law IV, Texas A+M

12. Philadelphia Thaddeus Young, Georgia Tech

13. New Orleans Julian Wright, Kansas

14. Los Angeles Clippers Al Thornton, Florida State

15. Detroit Pistons Rodney Stuckey, Eastern Washington

16. Washington Nick Young, USC

17. New Jersey Sean Williams, Boston College

18. Golden State Marco Belinelli, Italy

19. Los Angeles Lakers Javarais Crittenton, Georgia Tech

20. Miami Jason Smith, Colorado State

21. Philadelphia Daequan Cook, Ohio State

Trade Announced: Miami trades Jason Smith to Philadelphia for Daequan Cook, a 2009 second-rounder, and cash.

22. Charlotte Jared Dudley, Boston College

23. New York Wilson Chandler, DePaul

24. Phoenix Rudy Fernandez, Spain

Trade Announced: The Portland Trailblazers have bought the 24th pick, Rudy Fernandez from Phoenix for cash considerations.

25. Utah Morris Almond, Rice

26. Houston Aaron Brooks, Oregon

Update: ESPN is reporting that Yi Jianlian's camp is threatening that he might not show up for media conferences in Milwaukee tomorrow.

Update: Seattle's #35 pick is also a part of the above-mentioned trade.

27. Detroit Aaron Afflalo, UCLA

28. San Antonio Tiago Splitter, Brazil

29. Phoenix Alando Tucker, Wisconsin

30. Portland Petteri Koponen, Finland

Thus ends the first round. See the second round in a new thread.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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HUZZAH!

Oden time for the Blazers!

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2007 3:47 PM PDT reply actions

I Am Jacked

I'm doing a little live blogging over at my place, fwiw, but I'll be dropping in here to savor the MOST EXCITING NIGHT FOR BLAZERS FANS IN THIS MILLENNIUM.

Oops. Sorry for shouting. Did I mention I'm pretty Jacked?

by Toast on Jun 28, 2007 3:49 PM PDT reply actions

O how i love open threads

And what a great open thread it will be. We will see how yesterdays rumors hold up!

Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jun 28, 2007 4:04 PM PDT reply actions

They are saying

That Oden to Portland is "essential Done", Mr. Rick Bucher is very sure about the Oden thing apparently

Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jun 28, 2007 4:06 PM PDT reply actions

It's finally time!

Almost a month of waiting and endless speculation are about to come to an end with the draft here. Ironically, after the draft we will have more waiting and endless speculation again.

by T Darkstar on Jun 28, 2007 4:07 PM PDT reply actions

Its great isnt it

Walk through one door and run right into another one.

Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jun 28, 2007 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions

WOW

Trade Rumor Alert:
Ray allen to Seattle
Delonte West and Wally to Seattle + draft pick.

They are obviously planning on Durant

Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jun 28, 2007 4:08 PM PDT reply actions

They want to dump salary too

I was speculating earlier in the year about Pierce and Allen being together but I thought it would be in Seattle.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions

The Swami Dave at it again

Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jun 28, 2007 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Ray Allen is already in Seattle.

by grimc on Jun 28, 2007 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Allen to Boston?

I would love that move. Two of my favorite players, Allen (a Huskie great) and Pierce, united to resuscitate that once-great franchise from my hometown? Awesome.

by Toast on Jun 28, 2007 4:08 PM PDT reply actions

can't wait, huge fan

BRING THIS ON!!!

DUMMMMM, DUMMM, DA DA DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

by bossaking on Jun 28, 2007 4:11 PM PDT reply actions

I already

have a good nickname for Oden, just waiting for them to call his name.

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 4:13 PM PDT reply actions

good lord

I'm agreeing with Stephen A Smith, and we've only just started.

PP, Ray Allen, Al Jefferson sounds like a pretty good combo to me, along with Rajon Rondo. A little weak in the middle but that sounds like a respectable squad.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:13 PM PDT reply actions

i know

kinda sucks huh, but i agree. Thats an eastern conference playoff team for sure

Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jun 28, 2007 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Stephen A

and Dick Vitale. Just shoot me now.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 4:14 PM PDT reply actions

I find it helps

to start drinking early.

mmm, boooze.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions

wow

I can honestly say I'm not sorry I'm missing that ;)

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions

BTW

can you use your blogger juice to try to force the NBA to have TNT's guys cover this instead of the ESPN guys? I miss Chuck and Ernie and Kenny.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions

word

that was one of the bad points of the NBA finals too. I missed those guys

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh dang

I'm watching Durant right now and he's looking and sounding like a franchise guy more than Oden. GO seems kind of goofy.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 4:20 PM PDT reply actions

I disagree.

Oden is loose and comfortable in the spotlight. Durant is uptight and awkward. IMO.

by grimc on Jun 28, 2007 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions

being loose

Being loose with the press has nothing to do with being a franchise player. Talent and desire do.

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions

But

Dave's comment was based on Oden's demeanor with the press.

"Starting at center, for your Portland Trailblazers...Greg...Oden!"

Get used to it.

by grimc on Jun 28, 2007 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Durant's interview on TrueHoop

I just read Henry Abbott's recap of his interview with Durant, and I'm not too excited. It sounded like he was acting like an uninterested teenager rather than a potential franchise guy. We'll see how this all shakes out, but Oden looks (like he's 40 but that's cool), sounds, and acts like a franchise guy, IMO. Only time can tell though.

Please KP, Give Portland a little bit of Oden...

by berrygraham on Jun 28, 2007 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions

actually

all that matters is how they act on the court and if you've watched oden play, he is all business.

by sergioFTW on Jun 28, 2007 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions

I disagree

Durant has seemed a little shy at times, but most of the times I've seen him (especially ESPN) he's seemed pretty charismatic. I think he's going to evolve into a big-time media darling once he becomes more familiar with talking to the media all the time. Remember, he's only 18.

But Oden, he's just a natural!

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Honestly, I'll always

think that Durant's a better choice, but really it's hard to complain with a guy whose floor is Alonzo/Dikembe territory, I think Deek is one of the most underrated players of the past decade. If Oden gets 15/14/4, shooting 55% on putbacks and opportunity junk buckets, I'll be ecstatic.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Maturity...

Comes later to some people than others. Seems like Oden is growing up a little slower than Durant, but then Durant was groomed for this from a young age where Oden seems a little more like a teenager getting out on his own. He's excited to be getting the opportunity, but it seems like he's being honest about the fact that there are elements of his youth he's reluctant to let go of. I think most players experience that coming out of college, but Oden's just a little more candid about it than most. He'll be fine once he puts on that Blazers jersey and wins his first NBA tip-off.

Besides, from what I've heard he's going to have family moving to town with him.

by ChrisB803 on Jun 28, 2007 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions

cant understand...

why conley is projected at 3

by jameyemail on Jun 28, 2007 4:26 PM PDT reply actions

His ceiling is

in the Isiah, Chris Paul territory. He can't shoot that well, but there's no reason to think he can't learn; his mechanics aren't too bad.

Although I think he goes 4, I don't think you can pass up Horford at 3.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions

this is one of those

years where teams are desperate for point play but there is a dearth of point talent, hence the reach for Conley at 3

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 4:28 PM PDT reply actions

hey Shaq was goofy...

and I didn't hear anybody in LA whining after they had a 3peat

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 4:29 PM PDT reply actions

Exactly

Go easy on Oden. Personally, I like his attitude.

by Toast on Jun 28, 2007 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Shaq = goofy

Oden = funny

There's a difference.

by Jumbo on Jun 28, 2007 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

True Hoop

hey, is anyone having trouble with True Hoop? The site is all busted for me.

What chats/logs/etc.. is everyone following? Include links!

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 4:30 PM PDT reply actions

Just this one

and deadspin (being manned by the FreeDarko guys):

http://deadspin.com/sports/nba-draft/nba-draft-live-blog-free-darko-is-here-273301.php

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions

WE HAVE POINT GUARDS!!!!

For SALE/TRADE....

by jameyemail on Jun 28, 2007 4:31 PM PDT reply actions

The true Hoop guys made a good point earlier

Why is everyone so down on JJ???? He is a good kid, with plenty of skills and has already proven himself to a certain degree / gotten through some of the tough learning years for a PG. I say KEEP JJ, unless we are TOTALLY overwhelmed by the offer. And before you say he needs to be moved to make way for the great Sergio, look into your heart of hearts and really remember how many games that Sergio really was AMAZING. In reality it was only a couple, yeah he had amazing PLAYS here and there, but for the most part JJ was the consistently good point gaurd maybe not as flashy but better over the long run. Now, I along with everyone else hopes that Sergio turns into the next nash, but lets not put that on him this year.

by OBF on Jun 28, 2007 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions

IT'S HAPPENING!!!

IT'S TIME!!!
ALLEN MADE THE CALL!!!

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 4:36 PM PDT reply actions

OMG SAS

sending us flowers and valentines! Am I in bizarro ESPN world?

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:36 PM PDT reply actions

SPENCER HAWES? WTF?

Just kidding!

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 4:36 PM PDT reply actions

shock the world

KP!!

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions

this is awsome.

i love life right now

by blackterritory on Jun 28, 2007 4:36 PM PDT reply actions

It's ODEN!

Now, any trades coming?

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 4:37 PM PDT reply actions

good is life

life is good

by bossaking on Jun 28, 2007 4:37 PM PDT reply actions

interesting

I love the white hat, though i thought they would represent red and black

by Blazerhopeful on Jun 28, 2007 4:38 PM PDT reply actions

oohh mmyyy gosh!!!

so freaking sweet!!! I haven't accomplished a damn thing at work!!!
kiss the ring baby kiss the muthaFreeking Ring!!

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 4:38 PM PDT reply actions

Welcome

Allfather.

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 4:39 PM PDT reply actions

Wow, some serious flava

on the high fives in the Portland War Room. Let's get some excitement in that room next time, fellas.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:39 PM PDT reply actions

AWESOME!!!!

Now that, that is out of the way, here are the trades I see coming for P-Town...

wait for it...

here it comes...

NONE!!!

I think that with the way KP laid down the law last year and stole everyone else cookies, no one is going to want to deal fairly with him, and since he won't trade unless he gets at least fair value, i am betting he doesn't make ANY deals, and just picks the best avalible at the four 2nd's

Of course I could also be very very wrong!

by OBF on Jun 28, 2007 4:41 PM PDT reply actions

OMG don't jinx us with the

Glenn Robinson mention on a laid-back big, Stuart!

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:41 PM PDT reply actions

How long do they usually take between picks?

by OBF on Jun 28, 2007 4:41 PM PDT reply actions

OMG

PRITCHARD WILL SPEAk...............I wonder what to expect

by Blazerhopeful on Jun 28, 2007 4:41 PM PDT reply actions

Ray allen headed to boston

Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jun 28, 2007 4:41 PM PDT reply actions

SEATTLE WANTS GREEN AT #5!?

I guess they see Durant as a power forward...

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 4:42 PM PDT reply actions

Holy crap!!!!!

Boston got lucky!!!

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 4:42 PM PDT reply actions

woah

allen to boston? damn... seattle's gonna have some quality young talent. if whoever they pick #5 isn't a bust, this portland/seattle rivalry is gonna be amazing for the next 12 years.

by ssa400 on Jun 28, 2007 4:43 PM PDT reply actions

and Allen and Pierce

is gonna be fun to watch. Those 2 + Jefferson is a force in the eastern conferenc.e

by ssa400 on Jun 28, 2007 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Oden Trail Blazers Center No. 52!!!!!!

Was that an Oden Jersey in the war room? That was No. 52 Trail Blazers!

by GimmeIme on Jun 28, 2007 4:43 PM PDT reply actions

Yes

Oden will wear 52

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions

anyone know who

Seattle wants with the #5? I'm thinking Noah, maybe.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:43 PM PDT reply actions

Jeff Green

or it doesn't happen I think.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Really?

Why Jeff when you already have KD? I'd think Conley or Noah.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Actually Yi

would be interesting too.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions

They're blowing it up....

in Seattle. Man I'm worried they're moving now!

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 4:43 PM PDT reply actions

Aiy, Seatlle is someone to reckon with

I WANT JEff GREEn NO!!!!!!!!

by Blazerhopeful on Jun 28, 2007 4:44 PM PDT reply actions

i will hurt someone

if i ever hear KP say "the process" ever again.

by ssa400 on Jun 28, 2007 4:47 PM PDT reply actions

I know what you mean...

but KP can say whatever he wants with the good decisions and lucks he's brought!

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

We are now the proud owners of Greg Oden!!!

Party in a can!!!

I am the master of my fate, I am the Captain of my soul. - Charles Wesley

by Earl on Jun 28, 2007 4:47 PM PDT reply actions

Everything going to plan

Al horford at #3, but now where does he go?

by Blazerhopeful on Jun 28, 2007 4:48 PM PDT reply actions

Can KP say the word "process"

a few more times? He's like Al Gore and "lockbox"

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 4:49 PM PDT reply actions

If Rashard Lewis doesn't re-sign...

with Seattle...they are going to be very young. I can't see Seattle being much better next season.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 4:50 PM PDT reply actions

If Rashard Lewis doesn't re-sign...

with Seattle...they are going to be very young. I can't see Seattle being much better next season.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 4:50 PM PDT reply actions

Conley at 4

Uh oh Yi gone, the trade coming down,

by Blazerhopeful on Jun 28, 2007 4:53 PM PDT reply actions

poor mike

going to that wasteland.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 4:53 PM PDT reply actions

I think this was

a salary dump. You trade Allen for Wally's contract that expires next year, let Rashard sign elsewhere and sign 2 first round picks that are locked in at low salary for 4 years.

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 4:53 PM PDT reply actions

MCJr to Memphis

Time for Damon to retire?

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 4:53 PM PDT reply actions

I think the time

for Damon to retire was a year or two ago, but that's just me.

by grimc on Jun 28, 2007 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Do we got a shot at Pierce

now that Allen is going to Boston?

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 4:54 PM PDT reply actions

Why?

Pierce will be happy with another vet coming to Boston. He and Allen fit well together--Pierce is great with the ball in his hands, Allen is great off-the-ball.

They should score a bunch of points. Now about that defense...

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Good point

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Seattle has the 5th pick right?

I can't get anything to load. It seems the draft has broken the internet. Call Al Gore!

by little joey @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 4:57 PM PDT reply actions

Yup

Bucky

by Bucky Blazer on Jun 28, 2007 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Jeff Green

YUP, Green will be a sonic.

Though don't u think that Jeff GREEEN would be a good Celtic? then again the sonics are green

by Blazerhopeful on Jun 28, 2007 4:58 PM PDT reply actions

Green and Durant?

Does Jeff Green go well with Kevin Durant?

That's what I don't get. AND I was hoping WE'D get Green.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2007 4:58 PM PDT reply actions

what I mean is

Durant might eventually be a 4, but for how he has to be a 3. Green isnt a 4 either YET (if ever), and his best position is 3.

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2007 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions

They're just very young now...

I don't see them having a much better record next season unless they can pull off something else.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions

both can play PF

Both Green and Durant can play PF. so the Sonics will do just fine

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 4:59 PM PDT reply actions

I guess a few years of growing pains

While both guy gets used to the NBA, gets stronger, and then can play the 4.

But I like both guys at the 3... get the most out of their height, passing, and ability.

That's just me though.

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2007 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions

the sonics, i guess...

are trying to build a young core... and as much as Durant is a nucleus, I don't quite understand why Green is the guy to go along with him. At least the Sonics are trying to do something that may make them good eventually. It seems like the next couple of years are still going to be rough.

by little joey @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions

So who is Seattle's PG now?

West, Ridnour, or Watson?

Almost as bad as Telfair/Blake/Jack two years ago, or Rondo/West/Telfair last year.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:00 PM PDT reply actions

Delonte's more of a 2

than a 1, I think he played at least half his minutes at 2 this past year.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions

they'll trade one of them

either ridnour or watson will get traded by next season. guaranteed

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 5:02 PM PDT reply actions

Probably Luke

he's got a contract that is palatable to many teams.

Watson would be hard to move, except perhaps for Speedy Claxton or some other player who is similarily overpaid.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions

there goes our sign and trade for

Rashard Lewis

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:03 PM PDT reply actions

Green at 3, KD at 4

though that might just be for..whoa Transformers does look pretty good...anyway... that might just be the official listing for the depth chart. They can definitely play on the same team. They were saying the knock on Green is he passes too much... that's a perfect "problem" when you're paired with KD.

I really hope the Sonics stay in Seattle. Can you imagine the Pacific Northwest becoming the center of the hoops world?

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:04 PM PDT reply actions

OMG the Bucks are creating

a national incident! we might have the first NBA related war!

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:04 PM PDT reply actions

Speculation

in my living room says Yi is traded to Golden State before the night is through.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 5:05 PM PDT reply actions

Yi

ok, who is trading for Yi? No way he's playing in Wisconsin.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:05 PM PDT reply actions

Yi!

Golden State would be a good fit for Yi. Nellie managed to get something out of Shawn Bradley, he might be able to coax something out of Yi.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:06 PM PDT reply actions

Yi highlights

are extremely unimpressive. He's way taller and wide open and he dunks.

Boom or bust pick for sure.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:06 PM PDT reply actions

love that name

any team w/ DONG!

by jameyemail on Jun 28, 2007 5:06 PM PDT reply actions

Anyone know what GSW is offering the Bucks?

If it's not considerably better than Prz, I'll be upset... :) not that I'd want Yi, but there are lotsa fine 3s still on the board.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:08 PM PDT reply actions

sonic fans are pissed over at sonicscentral

don't go in there witout riot gear...

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 5:10 PM PDT reply actions

Why?

About the Allen trade? Probably a good thing for them--though Seattle could seriously use some big men.

I mean some good big men.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Why come?

I'd do what they did if I was them... maybe.

Is Ray Allen that popular? I guess I can see that, I like him a lot. But they need to be cheap and think of the loooong future... Durant and Ray Allen won't get the most out of each other.

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2007 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions

they sholdn't be

Green is awesome, Durant is awesome, Allen is old.

I still can't believe they got a top 5 pick for a 32 year old shooting guard, as much as I love Shuttlworth.

p.s., I love Brewer. I love that he went back with so much to lose. Can we trade for him?

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, the #5 in this draft for

a guy with maybe 2 or 3 good years left? That was a frickin steal.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Plus Delonte's

a quality role player too.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I think it's Wally

that has them upset...

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Why?

Don't play him.

Or send him here for LaFrentz. :)

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions

That's just silly

Wally's just cap fodder that made that trade work, and turns into an asset (a big expiring contract) in 09.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Aha, I have more insight now

they are saying since the team is getting blown up and will not be very good next year, that will lead to down attendance and an easy way to get out of the lease and move to OKC...

they're also saying Green was a reach at 5, they liked Brewer more...

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Solid pick by Minnesota

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:12 PM PDT reply actions

At least Mchale

didn't take Hawes, as the "guy who reminds me the most of myself"

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions

DAMNIT

I wanted brewer!!!! HE'S FROM PORTLAND (TN)

by jameyemail on Jun 28, 2007 5:13 PM PDT reply actions

bizarro

McHale made a good pick.

what the hell is going on???

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 5:14 PM PDT reply actions

Trade bait?

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions

great quote from deadspin:

Is Seattle pulling a Portland? Like last year, how Portland somehow came out of the draft with an entirely new, young, revitalized team.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:17 PM PDT reply actions

Difference....

our vet we gave up was Theo Ratliff...

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Rashard for Zach would've

made more sense for Seattle...in my opinion. Durant is a small forward and will probably never be a power forward...unless they want to go small. Green has potential...but why not go with the sure thing and keep your star?

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:18 PM PDT reply actions

Rashard cannot be traded

not until July and only if he approves.

I dunno. Durant as PF might get abused on the defensive end, but he's got a great wingspan. He should be able to destroy any PF that tries to guard him though.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions

True...

but why not wait? Portland would be willing.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions

NC

that is a really good pick for NC, both for basketball and fan relationtions.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:20 PM PDT reply actions

Bobcats

Man, I really like the Bobcats right now. They have a lot of good young talent. Hate their name, love their team, especially in the Least. If they can land Rashard or a good veteran or two, they're looking like a team that could make a serious run in the playoffs, especially if they can (YEAH SPIKE!) re-sign Wallace.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Chicago's gonna take Ben Wallace Jr.

Great D, no O, ugly hair. :)

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:21 PM PDT reply actions

Brandon Wright is now doomed

I HAD no idea if he would bust or not, but being picked by Jordan comfirms it.

Poor guy :-( He coulda been something.

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2007 5:21 PM PDT reply actions

where the friggan heck....

IS the "trade-man" Kevin? Dont tell me he couldnt get anything done!!!!!

by jameyemail on Jun 28, 2007 5:21 PM PDT reply actions

It takes time

Some of these guys may already be traded and we just don't know it yet.

That said, it's more likely we'd trade into the 20's than the teens.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Prepare for massive boos

with this Chicago pick.

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 5:23 PM PDT reply actions

sonics plan

sonics were ready to blow up their team in anticipation of moving to OKC.

They would've done the same thing if they'd picked Oden

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 5:23 PM PDT reply actions

DONT WORRY

I think we were spoiled by last year's fun. KP will work out whatever is best for the team... if nothing goes down, what can we do? Oh yeah, we got ODEN/ALDRIDGE/ROY... we're fine.

by Mortimer on Jun 28, 2007 5:23 PM PDT reply actions

i agree

picking oden and then going home is a great draft in my mind

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions

To answer fatty's question

(which got deleted apparently because Fatty violated the Verbal Morality Code), haven't hear much.

But that doesn't mean anything--many of the big Blazer trades last year weren't picked up by the press until they were a done deal.

The big rumor is of course Zach to NY, but that's not likely to happen today, if at all. The versions of that rumor range from barely tolerable (Zach for Frye/Rose) to downright terrible (Zach+Webster for Frye/Francis)

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:24 PM PDT reply actions

Fatty!

come on man, you know the rules! We need you here, keep it Dave-friendly!

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm falling asleep

every time this Duncan ad comes on tv. It's amazing, he's like a walking soporific.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:30 PM PDT reply actions

I wish

I wish Duncan and the Spurs and the NBA would play up his real personality, which is awesome. He's a total dungeons and dragon nerd! I love it. I think marketing him as the nerd-athlete would be so much better than Mr. Blank. Seriously, make CGI-heavy ads where he's wrastlin' dragons and running out of collapsing castles with a princess slung over his shoulder like a sack of potatoes.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Please, KP make the deal

Yeah, I'll happily take Zach in exchange for the carcinogenic Francis and Aldridge-Lite Frye.

Is this possible? Could Isiah really take Pritchard to the cleaners like this? Weird.

by knickfan on Jun 28, 2007 5:32 PM PDT reply actions

no

sorry, man, it ain't happening. If there's a trade, its going to involve different pieces than that.

As an Oregonian in Brooklyn, though, I feel your pain.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Hahaha Kings suck so bad!!

They desperately needed a replacement for Brad Miller. What's with their obsession with slow white centers?

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:34 PM PDT reply actions

Can't we give 'em one of ours?

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I LOVE it that

Hawes thinks he can improve on his athleticism. God, he's wearing a neon flashing sign that reads b.u.s.t.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions

right?

There is always a couple picks that cause a couple million people to yell "bust" simultaneously. What a waste in a draft like this.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions

So far, no real surprises

The draft has followed the script of many of the mocks. Green was a bit of a reach at #5, but even that wasn't a surprise given all the statheads dissing on Corey Brewer--a guy whose strength (defense) is hard to measure from the boxscore.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:36 PM PDT reply actions

It's following

Chad Ford's latest mock very closely.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

green was solid pick

I don't think Green was that much of a reach at 5. I thought Green and Brewer were the "best players available" at 5.

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 5:38 PM PDT reply actions

plus

for whatever reason brewer was popping up on a lot of potential bust lists. I don't think so with a kid like that, but I think after Horford the next five or six guys were pretty even.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Is Noah available for trade?

I think both Yi and Noah are available still. We could use either.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:38 PM PDT reply actions

Noah would be a great fit

if we had taken Durant.

With Oden on board, not so much.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions

not as a starter

if we trade Randolph, Noah would be the primary backup at 4 and 5. He'd get plenty of minutes and would bring some big time energy off the bench.

If Manu can come off the bench, Noah could.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions

An interesting question about Noah

is he's reportedly a party animal.

He probably goes to classier parties than Zach does... but how would that play here? Or is the problem with Zach that he parties in the low-rent district? :)

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions

WHAT?

you think we could use/ need "E"? c'mon now...the last thing we need is another center! Noah? we could use him as an awesome "energy" back up...albiet he too has soo much to learn in the NBA.

by jameyemail on Jun 28, 2007 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions

AC Law at #11

Still proceeding according to plan.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:39 PM PDT reply actions

Hawks are gonna

be gooood next year. Great draft for them.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions

not unless

they clear up the logjam at 3/4.

They have so much talent forced to sit on the bench.

Plus, its Atlanta. Then again, its the Least and any given NBDL team would be a threat to make the playoffs.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Julian Wright is still on the board

I wouldn't mind adding him to the team. Even if he can't shoot... he can take it to the hole, something that none of our current 3-ish players (Webster, Udoka, and Trout) do very well.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:41 PM PDT reply actions

Yahoo calling trade?

"Our Adrian Wojnarowski reports that the Knicks just traded Channing Frye and Steve Francis to Portland for Zach Randolph, Dan Dickau and Jerome James. That would be a nice deal for New York. Hot rumor is Miami may grab DePaul forward Wilson Chandler at No. 20. - 8:36 pm EDT"

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/draft?analysis=1

by sergioFTW on Jun 28, 2007 5:42 PM PDT reply actions

i'm trying, but

i can't see how this makes sense at all.

by sergioFTW on Jun 28, 2007 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Zach gone

Adrian Wojnarowski reports that the Knicks just traded Channing Frye and Steve Francis to Portland for Zach Randolph, Dan Dickau and Jerome James. That would be a nice deal for New York. Hot rumor is Miami may grab DePaul forward Wilson Chandler at No. 20. - Yahoo

by nathan junior on Jun 28, 2007 5:42 PM PDT reply actions

Please.....

nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Uh, Jerome James already plays for the Knicks

and THAT deal can't possibly work under the cap.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions

WTH, not even

a pick along with it? KP must be verrry high on Frye.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions

That trade makes

no sense! We don't want Francis, and we don't need Frye. That would be horrible.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions

i can only pray

that KP has a trade lined up for both of them.

by sergioFTW on Jun 28, 2007 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Do you think...

we're going after Thorton?

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:43 PM PDT reply actions

Francis?!

Oh, no. With all the young guys we've got, we do NOT need a shoot-first point guard. Please no.

by Toast on Jun 28, 2007 5:44 PM PDT reply actions

Sixers make the second bad pick

You can't pick Thad Young over J Wright.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:47 PM PDT reply actions

I hope we did Zach to Chicago

for Nocioni, Duhon + Noah...

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 5:48 PM PDT reply actions

wright and thornton slipping

Julian Wright and Thornton are both slipping.

Some team will be pleasantly surprised...

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

I hope KP's on the phones hard

with the Wizards at 16 maybe? for Julian Wright, he'd be a great fit for us now.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

Isaiah

obviously has some very comprimising pics of KP or Allen.

I appologize to the Knicks poster, he was obviously right. I'm not happy about this at all.

Ok, now I'm going to shift gears and accept. KP obviously sees Frye as a talent that was wasted on an atrocious team, a guy that can get big minutes backing up Aldridge and Oden at the 4 and 5.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:50 PM PDT reply actions

That New York trade

is so gross I'm not even going to put it up.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 5:50 PM PDT reply actions

Now it's reported as...

Zach, Jones, and Dickau for Frye and Francis

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:50 PM PDT reply actions

How legit is this

guy for Yahoo reporting the NY-Portland trade?

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:51 PM PDT reply actions

Slam Online has it too

http://slamonline.com/online/2007/06/links-liveblogging-the-nba-draft/

"It's Randolph, Dickau and Freddy Jones for Steve Francis and Channing Frye. Exclusive!"

Well, maybe Frye is a lot better than we think.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Why do it?

It makes no sense. I'd rather keep Randolph.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

well

"Well, maybe Frye is a lot better than we think."

so, isn't a given this is a good trade? I mean, it can't be possible (like in a scientific way) for Isaiah Thomas to get the best of Kevin Pritchard, right? Right?

Maybe this is Allen's gift to KP for going along with drafting Oden over Durant. "Ok, we know you LOVE Steve Francis, you werido. Do what you need to do."

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions

trading for trade bait?

so the only reason I can figure out that KP would want to bring a, ahem nice young man like Francis in here would be to trade him away right away, but with Franchises fat contract, who else would take him?

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 5:51 PM PDT reply actions

I'm sorry

but that trade is ridiculous. I refuse to believe it.

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 5:52 PM PDT reply actions

nothing on espn about it, kind of weird right?

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 5:52 PM PDT reply actions

If that rumor is true...

I feel like I just got punched in the stomach. How could something like that happen???

by AndrewD on Jun 28, 2007 5:53 PM PDT reply actions

J-Wright goes 13 to the Hornets

Minor surprise--everyone had Nick Young here. But Wright is probably a better talent.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

KXL said nothing official from the Blazers

brian wheeler's in the war room in Tualitin and said it is pure speculation, but the trade would be Randolph, Freddie Jones, DD, for Frye and Francis, and that Francis's contract would probably be bought out. he repeated PURE SPECULATION

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

That would be Zach, Jones and DD

for Frye. You gotta be kidding.

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

man, I'm excited to watch

the Sonics, the Bobcats, the Hornets and the Hawks next year. When's the last time you could say that?

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

Hah, J Wright is a bowling fan

just like Chris Paul, maybe they picked Julian over Nick Young so that Chris had a bowling partner!

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

hornets lucked out

to have wright fall to them at 13

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

Rose

I just read on ESPN that Portland and NY could swap out Francis for Malik Rose in that deal after 7-1. If that's the case, why even make the deal now?

by Toast on Jun 28, 2007 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

In Any Case

Keep your chins up. In Pritch we trust, no?

by Toast on Jun 28, 2007 5:56 PM PDT reply actions

When is the time

When are we gonna give Oden a nickname?

by Sabonis4Ever on Jun 28, 2007 5:56 PM PDT reply actions

I suggest

Allfather. like the Norse god. Its good, let it marinate a bit and you'll like it.

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

I like "The Terminator"

I don't know why, it popped into my head when I was watching some of his blocks... frontline is the Terminator and the Sheriff

Brandon Roy 007

by TimG on Jun 28, 2007 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

"The Big Ugly"....

Like the Big Fundamental or the Big Aristotle, but more appropriately Oden!

by GimmeIme on Jun 28, 2007 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

If we do the trade

and buy out Francis... what does our cap look like? Do we make a run at a FA this summer?

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 5:56 PM PDT reply actions

someone shoot me

"* The New York Knicks just traded Channing Frye and Steve Francis to the Portland Trail Blazers for Zach Randolph, Dan Dickau and Fred Jones."

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_experts;_ylt=An.7Y0E49NB6WWx4XYkMaVK8vLYF

by sergioFTW on Jun 28, 2007 5:57 PM PDT reply actions

Dealing with the Knicks is a BAD idea...

Bad players and stunningly bad contracts. Someone needs to delete Isaiah's number from Pritchard's phone.

by AndrewD on Jun 28, 2007 5:57 PM PDT reply actions

We need a small forward and

possibly a point guard. The NY trade is absolutely terrible. We would be giving up a valuable trade piece for what? A back up and malcontent?! Don't do it KP!

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 5:59 PM PDT reply actions

Ugh.

Steve Francis??? I can think of maybe five players I want LESS on the Blazers.

Sweet Jesus. Pritch... all you had to do was nothing retarded and yet.

(assuming this is true and I am desperately hoping it's not)

by AndrewD on Jun 28, 2007 6:00 PM PDT reply actions

knicks rumor

if the knicks rumor is true.
zach,freddie,dickau for Frye and Francis (or Malik Rose)

we're gonna buyout Francis, so he won't actually come here, but so basicallyd end up with Frye instead of Randolph.

it would be more of a financial deal then anything else...(dumping zach's contract for Frye's rookie contract).

Basketball-wise, we'd be getting 50 cents on the dollar...but have improved our 'culture'.

Getting so little for Zach is what many suspected would happen if we picked Oden over Durant.

we'll see if the rumor is true...

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 6:00 PM PDT reply actions

ughh

KXL team was talking about how much Pritch loved Frye, but really? Enough to trade Z-bo for Francis loved him? I agree with AndrewD, there's no reason for us to talk to the Knicks whatsoever, unless the topic is David Lee.

"The only way I can make five A's is when I sign my name." --aa

by abdelnaby on Jun 28, 2007 6:01 PM PDT reply actions

Also rumors of Richard Jefferson...

being involved in the Zach action. http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22482.shtml

Would NJ really want Francis? I'd go along with that, but I can't see Rod Thorn touching Franchise with a ten-foot pole.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 6:01 PM PDT reply actions

Unless HE want the Nets to be under the cap..

...like in two years, when, uh, Lebron James becomes a free agent?

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

The update to the trade

is in the main body of the post.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 6:02 PM PDT reply actions

braces

man, braces everywhere tonight.

(not crtiticizing, I had braces when I was 18)

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:02 PM PDT reply actions

That makes a LOT more sense.

The Nets are moving to Brooklyn and Francis is a guy that belongs in NYC. And Jefferson for Randolph I can live with.

Francis in Portland though... WTF in a big way.

by AndrewD on Jun 28, 2007 6:03 PM PDT reply actions

Anyone have KP's

number? Let's call and tell him.....heck no!!!!! Do not does this trade. Be patient and you'll get better offers for Zach.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 6:03 PM PDT reply actions

maybe not terrible, MAYBE BRILLIANT

does anyone know the cap stuff? I mean, if we're dumping all those contracts and winding up essentially with just Frye and his rookie contract, it could make sense. If Pryz is traded and Miles is retired, they will be WAY under the cap.

Its a gamble, but it consider the possibilities of having this summer and/or next summer with the ability to sign any FA we want. I think that makes it worth it.

Yay, KP is back to being a genius!

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

If we do a buyout

then the contract comes off the cap. IIRC, per the CBA buyouts are at half the value of the contract. Franchise becomes a FA and/or can retire.

by EngineerScotty on Jun 28, 2007 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

rumor

I still can't believe this knicks trade.
There has to be at least an unprotected 2008 NY pick

by Bruno on Jun 28, 2007 6:05 PM PDT reply actions

we can only hope

picking oden may've forced us to trade Zach (due to the logjam with Zach,Oden,Aldridge) which lowers his trade value.

I hope KP holds out for something better. I'm sure KP is smart enough to come up with something great in the end...

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

sorry Zach

man even though I'm stoked to have Oden, it really bites to be getting so little for Randolph. maybe Frye is a total animal, who knows, but for right now wow. sounds like crap.

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

It still involves Steve Francis in Portland

And is therefore terrible.

I would 1000X rather have Zach on this team next year than Francis.

by AndrewD on Jun 28, 2007 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

Why buy him out?

Why buy out Stevie Francis? What does that get us? If it gets us anything, why didn't we do this already to Darius?

by homersolo on Jun 28, 2007 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

Nevermind...

Didn't see that part about the buyout.

Still don't like it.

by AndrewD on Jun 28, 2007 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

buyout brings lewis?

if we buyout francis, can we go after lewis this year?!

by blzrfan on Jun 28, 2007 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

so now the Knicks

have two lane cloggers that don't pass the ball and both need the block in the post? Man, this is a WTF from every possible angle.

by JPop on Jun 28, 2007 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

and poor Fred Jones

Rough deal. Guy basically agreed to a pay cut for the pleasure of being part of a package deal for Franchise Killer. I'd be pretty unhappy about that.

by abdelnaby on Jun 28, 2007 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

yea totally

that's a really crappy deal for Fred. to bad, I really liked him on that 2nd unit. he's screwed on NYC's roster. freaking hell for a guard.

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

keep in mind

the Knicks are terrible. Fred Jones has a real chance not only to punch through into the starting lineup, but to become a real fan favorite with his dunking.

Actually, this is exceptionally good for Fred. In Portland he's stuck behind Roy battling Webster. In NY he's (on top of being in hoops mecca) he's got to battle with Quentin Richardson for playing time.

Extra exceptional when you consider its only a matter of time before Thomas maxes him out.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah

Pathetic. No wonder everyone in the NBA is selfish, because they get screwed if they are unselfish. Next will be Joel getting screwed for being loyal.

by jamon51 on Jun 28, 2007 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

strange

i like Frye though. he can be a great backup at the 4. with Joel and Frye we'll have very good backups at the 4 and 5. that is pretty terrible value for Zach though.

makes no sense for the Knicks. curry and Frye together- can you say stagnant offense?

I'll wait until all the info is in before passing judgment.

KP has earned our trust- let's reserve judgment a little longer.

by jksnake99 on Jun 28, 2007 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

You mean Curry and Randolph together

by jamon51 on Jun 28, 2007 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

indeed

thanks for the correction.

by jksnake99 on Jun 28, 2007 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

If that trade goes down...

I hope it's just the beginning of move that more meets our needs.

Still...it sounds awful.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

KXL Inside the war room

KXL said Blazers "aggressively" trying to get another 1st rounder. so probably Jack, Pryz, or Webster and/or a combination of 2nd rounders.

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

PRINCIPLE! JUST PRINCIPLE!

still hope!

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

making a trade with NYK

that makes the Knicks fan explode in applause worries me...

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

Spike is happy

stephen smith is right, man. Knicks really come out ahead.

I would like to point out, though, Knicks are further burried in contracts. Francis comes off in 2 years, Randolph in 4.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

I think you'll see the following:

Francis bought out.
Miles bought out.
Pryz traded.

Blazers way under cap ($31 million before rookie contracts for this year are signed) to go after free agents as Paul Allen stated in several interviews

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 6:17 PM PDT reply actions

Nets are morons

Seriously. What a broken franchise hobbling along like a deer that lost a foot in a trap.

My boy Jay-Z better not put up with this BS when they relocate to my burrough. I want to get season tickets when they move to Brooklyn, but not with Kdd and Carter earnign $20 billion a year at the age of 42 and 47 and Sean Williams getting weeded before every game.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:19 PM PDT reply actions

War Room update

we possibly just got Phoenix's 24th pick. still waiting on who we are going to send out.

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 6:19 PM PDT reply actions

why are blazers

so obsessed with getting a 2nd #1 pick (in the 20s)...We better not give up Jarret Jack for that...
(we've got a high 2nd round pick - I don't think the difference warrants giving up our starting PG)

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 6:20 PM PDT reply actions

I hope Jack stays somehow

I think he'll eventually make a nice backup PG.

by madding on Jun 28, 2007 6:21 PM PDT reply actions

hopefully we'd only give up picks

if we give up all of our 2nd round picks for the phoenix pick that's okay...we better not give up Jack for it...

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions

Freddie Jones

Freddie... Oregon guy, gave up a year to come here, seemed so excited about being a Blazer... just got traded to the Knicks?! Sad. This makes me feel worse than when we lost Viktor...

by grizzo on Jun 28, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions

What

How the h#!! do we not at least get pick #23 out of NY. I don't understand how we can just give away a player that had a 23/10 season. That is a ridiculous trade. It's like we just did it to do it.

Bingo Bango Bungo

by DetriquesAngst on Jun 28, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions

Man, KP really cleaning house

I won't be shocked to see JJ and Martell gone by the end of the night.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions

Oden on espn.com draftcast

we now know his favorite ice cream flavor is strawberry. way to ask the tough questions!

by madding on Jun 28, 2007 6:22 PM PDT reply actions

I didn't think anything could kill my buzz today

but the Francis trade has made me feel pretty uneasy. Maybe I'll feel a bit better if we pick up that 24th pick and grab my boy Almond.

by abdelnaby on Jun 28, 2007 6:23 PM PDT reply actions

NOOOOOO! Kevin Pritchard's honeymoon is over

Are you freakin' kidding me? Send '23/10' to the Knicks for garbage? Steve Francis is a cancer. If they plan to trade for him and buy him out, why not just buy out Zach and Darius together? They didn't even get the 23rd pick in the draft? Channing Frye brings nothing we don't already have. This is quite possibly the worst Blazers trade I've heard. It doesn't even get us under the cap next summer (2008) unless they can structure a one-year buyout.

Simply unbelievable. Couldn't they at least have waited to make this trade tomorrow so they wouldn't have to ruin our night?

by buildthroughthedraft on Jun 28, 2007 6:23 PM PDT reply actions

actually it will get them under the cap this year

dont worry, you'll see. Way more expensive to buy Zach out than Francis.

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Oden's buddy

Freddie is not only a local boy, but also is Oden's one friend on our team).

I feel for Freddie big time.

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 6:24 PM PDT reply actions

Hilarious

I'd encourage you all to go back and read the thread about value and comparing Blazer players to others around the NBA. A whole lot of you gave Zach high value and compared to Odom, Jefferson, etc...guys with real value.

Now you can see that Zbo is seen by the rest of the NBA as a joke, and that's why Portland got a washed up joke (Francis) and a soft, bust of a PF that can't rebound (Frye).

Zach was worth squat, and that's what Portland got for him.

by wetblanket on Jun 28, 2007 6:25 PM PDT reply actions

Hmmmmm.....

that's why all of NY is rejoicing right now.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

hmmmm...

They're rejoicing because they're a hopeless wreck of a team anyway, and trading squat for squat at least shakes up the squat. Let's see how much they're rejoicing when they get a load of Zach's whining, crying, and lazy-ass defense. Those NY crowds will obliterate him once they see him play.

They're going to blow either way. This trade is stupid for NY as well. They now have Curry and Randolph as a frontcourt, both of whom blow on defense, can't block shots, are poor rebounders, and are black holes on offense that can't pass and dribble out the shot clock 75% of time they have the ball.

by wetblanket on Jun 28, 2007 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't think so

New York fans would booo their grandmas out of the building, they're never happy.

Bingo Bango Bungo

by DetriquesAngst on Jun 28, 2007 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions

sorry for the repeat, but GOOD deal for Fred

here's what I posted above, I think Fred wins in this big time. He's burred on the charts in Portland, he can become super popular here in new york:

the Knicks are terrible. Fred Jones has a real chance not only to punch through into the starting lineup, but to become a real fan favorite with his dunking.

Extra exceptional when you consider its only a matter of time before Thomas maxes him out.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:26 PM PDT reply actions

ZACH TRADE

Now has its own thread.

--Dave

by Dave on Jun 28, 2007 6:26 PM PDT reply actions

Perspective

If you hate this trade, go over to sonicscentral.com and check out their comments on the Allen trade. Compared to that, we have nothing to complain about.

Bingo, bango, bongo!

by Babyshoes on Jun 28, 2007 6:28 PM PDT reply actions

yeah

but we all know Washintonians are a little... well, in addition to be terrible drivers they're generally not the shapest tacks in the box.

That is an INSANELY good deal for Allen.

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe so,

but it's Zerbiak that they're really upset about. It's pretty hilarious if you ask me. By the way, you're right on about Washington drivers. How do you know out in NY, anyway?

Bingo, bango, bongo!

by Babyshoes on Jun 28, 2007 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Hah, you should see the oregonians

drive over here (lost @ 30 mph).

But I'll let that slide if you change it to Seattle and leave the 'Couve out of that...

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions

OMG, I'm agreeing with SAS

again....

Need more booze.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:28 PM PDT reply actions

it burnnnz us! it burnz!

I'm... starting... to find... SAS... likable.. GAH!

f booz I need someone to punch me in the face!

Not only has he been right more often than not (2003 is better, sorry!), but he's been right more than ANY other guy that ESPN has on TV right now!

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

23/10

"Send '23/10' to the Knicks for garbage?"

The problem with that 23/10 is that whoever he guarded would put up 30/15.

Worst 23/10 in NBA history.

by wetblanket on Jun 28, 2007 6:30 PM PDT reply actions

WOW, Crittendon to the Lakers

Kobe must be gone, they drafted one of the rawest prospects in the draft.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:31 PM PDT reply actions

The trade is confirmed!!!

Gosh darnitttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 6:31 PM PDT reply actions

check oregonlive

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Personally...

I have season tickets....have watched (and alot of times boo'd) zbo for years. KEEP HIM! I want to hear (besides marion....or a few others) who would be a better PLAYER for us?..........

Ok...that was mid sentence when it was annoounced about the TRADE...or should I say DONATION!

I cant drink fast enough to make it sound better.

I CANT GET THE WIDMER CAP OFF NOW!!!

by jameyemail on Jun 28, 2007 6:34 PM PDT reply actions

he's gone...

Quick confirmed it.

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Widmer

Pry it off with your teeth, man!

Bingo, bango, bongo!

by Babyshoes on Jun 28, 2007 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions

hmm, good pick for miami

I didn't think Jason Smith would still be around for them.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:37 PM PDT reply actions

WTH? I just compliment Miami

and they trade him to the sixers for Daequan? What, DWade isn't a good enough 2 guard for them?

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Does KP think he's going to be able to

attract a big time free agent with the cap room?

by JasonT on Jun 28, 2007 6:39 PM PDT reply actions

I'm thinking

he's doing two things:

creating cap space for free agents, and
creating roster slots for our second rounders.

If he's as high on some of the second round guys as we've been hearing, we needed to figure out how to create roster slots and playing time for them, this trade accomplishes all of those things.

The second issue is Frye; a year ago, people thought Frye was one of the best bigs from last year's rookie class. He slumped a bit this year, but keep in mind how dysfunctional New York is; they played him out of position at SF a lot (which is a position he really can't play). He may very well be someone who can be a very productive player in this league.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions

we get what we asked for...

the trade was made necessary by what the fans wanted:

Drafting Oden
Improving the team's culture
Clearing cap space to get a free agent SF

by jm @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

Hilarious

On 1080 Oden was asked if he was going to shoot craps in Las Vegas and he's like "I like winning, not losing. I'll give my money to charity." Right on! Gambling is for losers who can't do math, and apparently Greg can do math.

by jamon51 on Jun 28, 2007 6:41 PM PDT reply actions

i love it

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions

wow, for losers, huh?

I bet the Blazers wish they could have picked 6th instead of winning the lottery?

Some people just like to beat the odds. I did.

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm not throwing Greg Oden back...

But gambling is for losers who can't do math.

by jamon51 on Jun 29, 2007 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions

we just bought phoenix's pick at 24?

is this true?

by Blazerfanstuckinraptorland on Jun 28, 2007 6:44 PM PDT reply actions

We got Phoenix's pick

I'm guessing we go after Almond?

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:46 PM PDT reply actions

go for Almond!

While we're at it we should just buy up all of Phoenix's first rounders for the next few years. That team is weird--they could probably use Almond off the bench, definitely could have used Sergio, but they'd rather save the $2 million a year. Oh well, our gain.

Got to take off, sadly, but I'm hoping for some good news when I get back, especially on the Francis front. By that I mean I hope he's gone before he even picks a jersey number.

by abdelnaby on Jun 28, 2007 6:51 PM PDT reply actions

Man, I'm really liking Charlotte's moves

this year. Dudley, BWright, added to Okafor, Gerald Wallace, Raymond Felton, Sean May looks like a very nice squad.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:51 PM PDT reply actions

Man, NY Knicks

Sean Willians and Zach Randolph in one day.

Hey Thomas, I hear Mike Tyson doesn't have a NBA contract, and he's got some good upper body strength, low post moves, and will make Bowen look like Grant Hill. Get it done.

(I might have to get knicks season tickets this year just for the freaskshow).

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:52 PM PDT reply actions

oops

got confused, which happens a lot.

NJ and NY are the same team anyway. Saddled with idiotic players with apatheitc contracts (wait, reverse that).

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Character

I thought the Blazers were pushing character like Isiah Rider pushing stolen cell phones. Then they go and trade their most proven commodity for a whiner (I don't want to play in Vancouver, trade me from Houston, I want to play 40 mins a game or not at all, no I am not pregnant and no I did not gain 40 lbs) and in the deal as a throw in you add the hometown guy who gave up 3.5 mil and a year on his contract to come home? Freddie Jones is an exciting player, a Sportscenter top 10 regular, having gone to Barlow High myself and have seen Freddie around a lot (in high school he was 20 times more skilled and athletic than anyone he faced) and from what I've heard he is a great guy and a friend of Oden. No offense to Dickau but no one is gonna miss him. I hope Freddie get to play more, he is fun to watch. '23 and 10' was wasted, I can't believe no one in the league wanted him, these are the people that are going to offer Anderson Varaejo $8mil a year to have a fraction of the impact '23 and 10' brings. What is Pritch thinking??? Wouldn't it have been better to 'let the dominoes fall' as he said and try to make some type of deal once you see who doesn't want to be left out of the fun or just hold pat?

by morescrillaigots on Jun 28, 2007 6:52 PM PDT reply actions

Dude

I'm sure they're buying out Stevie Franchise's contract. I'm surprised they couldn't get more for him, but this was a capspace deal, don't focus on the guy whose contract we're nullifying asap.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Rudy Rudy Rudy

by jksnake99 on Jun 28, 2007 6:58 PM PDT reply actions

24 to blazers

who are we picking at 24

Can't wait for the season to begin! GO BLAZERS! ROY is ROOKIE of the Year! Blazers have the #1 pick of the 2007 draft!

by blazerbrads1 on Jun 28, 2007 6:58 PM PDT reply actions

Jesus, SAS sending us valentines again

Where am I? Am I dreaming?

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:59 PM PDT reply actions

24 is

welcome rudy fernandez

Can't wait for the season to begin! GO BLAZERS! ROY is ROOKIE of the Year! Blazers have the #1 pick of the 2007 draft!

by blazerbrads1 on Jun 28, 2007 6:59 PM PDT reply actions

Probably morris almond or Tiago Splitter

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 6:59 PM PDT reply actions

Oh ignore that.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Suns suck

what kind of team just sells picks? Didn't we buy Sergio from them last year?

by matthewcc on Jun 28, 2007 6:59 PM PDT reply actions

Rudy Fernandez is ours

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 7:00 PM PDT reply actions

Great trade KP

Much better then the Zbo one. Love Rudy.

Welcome Greg Oden

by junit3123 @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 7:00 PM PDT reply actions

Unbelievable...

now I owe EnglandDan two beers.

Come down to summer league Dan and I'll be glad to serve them up.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 7:01 PM PDT reply actions

This guy is good

Very Ginobili-esque!!

by pantelakis on Jun 28, 2007 7:02 PM PDT reply actions

Crap, Ok I don't understand this pick

Is there any way that Rudy gives up millions to play for a euro club to come play for a rookie scale contract for the #24 pick? I sure as hell hope they did their due diligence and talked to Rudy about this.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 7:03 PM PDT reply actions

He might come over this year or next

but he is definitely coming over.

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't know, man, the Fran Vasquez possibilities

worry me.

http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/06/22/please-dont-draft-me-rudy-fernandez/

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Sergio said he wants to come over

I think it was in an interview Sergio did a little while back.

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Buyout question

What is Francis' contract look like? Even if we do buy him out, that doesn't come off the cap does it?

I don't like the Zach trade one bit. Frye is a poor mans Aldridge and doesn't solve the minutes logjam at the pf/c spot

by BlazerBandit on Jun 28, 2007 7:13 PM PDT reply actions

I knew who we were picking

But i still had my very slight doubt that they'd go for Durant. Even knowing, i still got goosebumps and i'm still quite a bit giddy...Let's go Oden!!!

written by the Blazer Thoughts artist formely known as "Scott R"

by saregister on Jun 28, 2007 7:14 PM PDT reply actions

good for Aaron Brooks

I don't think its a great pick for Houston, but I like Aaron and I'm happy for him.

by jksnake99 on Jun 28, 2007 7:15 PM PDT reply actions

wow

how did Brooks get to be a 1st rounder? great for him, though. hopefully he has some success.

by madding on Jun 28, 2007 7:17 PM PDT reply actions

Fernandez?

Do the Blazers want him to/does he want to play here next year? Is he going to stashed over Spain? I thought Morris Almond was the pick for sure, but from what has been written he's a Martell with less upside. Nice job by the Suns, in the past three years they've sold Robinson, Rodriguez and now the #24 to save money while paying Marcus (don't need to rob) Banks.

by morescrillaigots on Jun 28, 2007 7:18 PM PDT reply actions

Damn, I can't believe Splitter slipped

to the Spurs.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 7:28 PM PDT reply actions

that's because

he has a baseball name

by madding on Jun 28, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Thank gawd...

someone took Splitter. I've been hearing about this guy for three years. I know nothing about him and I'm already tired of him.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 7:30 PM PDT reply actions

Blazers just got the last pick in the first round

Crazy.

by jon @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 7:33 PM PDT reply actions

And it's the dude from Finland

Henry Something

by jon @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Hmm, I'd guess

Petteri Koponen, Nick Fazekas, or Zabian Dowdell?

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions

OMG, now I'm agreeing with

Dick Vitale...

I think I've gotta switch to the hard stuff....

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 7:38 PM PDT reply actions

haha!

you crack me up!

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions

who is that

who did we just pick?

Strangers always have the best candy

by killersquid on Jun 28, 2007 7:39 PM PDT reply actions

It's that guy Dave talked about -

Stanko Barac from Bosnia-Herzegovina ;)

by Blazerholic on Jun 28, 2007 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Young finnish point guard

plays for the coolest named team ever, the Hondo Playboys. Lots of buzz for this guy, the Spurs, the Suns and we were all scouting him closely last couple of months.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Dave, I'm looking forward to your post tommorrow

I'll be going to bed around 9:00pm. My head is spinning trying to sort out what the roster looks like with 3 first round contracts and the Zach trade. I'll be looking for good analysis on how this affects Udoka, Outlaw, Blake, etc. Just as I trust K.P. to make the right moves I trust you to explain it to me (as you work late into the morning) so that when I get up it's all there. Thanks for the effort.

Cheers.

by jon @ Blazer's Edge on Jun 28, 2007 7:43 PM PDT reply actions

So we picked three guys,

two of whom we probably won't see for at least a year or two. But we created all these roster slots. So I guess we can assume that we're very high on our second round prospects coming in and filling some roster slots, or we're going to be spreading our MLE around very thinly.

by howlingfantods on Jun 28, 2007 7:46 PM PDT reply actions