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SBN Year-End Awards

Blazersedge gets the privilege of presenting the SportsBlogNation 6th Man of the Year Award.  Voting happened all over the SBN NBA sites the last few days and now the results are tabulated.  And the winner in a landslide was...Joey Crawford.  No, no, no...wrong award.  Here are the real results.  Players got three points for a first place vote, two for a second, and one for a third.

Leandro Barbosa  163 points
Manu Ginobili  89
Jerry Stackhouse  79
David Lee  34
Corey Maggette  6
Tyrus Thomas  6
Jose Calderon  4
Dikembe Mutumbo  3
Jarvis Hayes  3
Steve Francis  2

One Point Each:

Andrea Bargnani
Luther Head
Juwon Howard
Kyle Korver
Jamaal Magloire
Antonio McDyess
Andres Nocioni
James Posey
Shavlik Randolph
Anderson Varejao

Congratulations to Leandro Barbosa.  As the winner he will receieve an official SportsBlogNation "air trophy" which is big and spectacular but takes no visible space on your shelf, leaving room for all of those minor NBA awards.  He'll also get a slightly empty six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon, courtesy of Indy Cornrows, and Golden State of Mind promises to donate a half dozen flashing pictures to gum up the load times on his website, should he have one.

The other awards will be revealed all week on other SBN NBA sites.  Click around on the SBN basketball link menu to the right and you'll be sure to find them.  (Hint:  search the non-playoff team sites first.)

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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hahahaha
dave you crack me up.
ROY for R.O.Y.

by junit3123 @ Blazer's Edge on Apr 25, 2007 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

The fix is in...
BE should have been allowed to present the award for Rookie of the Year.   When, oh when will we start getting some respect?

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Apr 25, 2007 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Are you KIDDING?!? BOSTON had to do it!
Making THEM post what happened with the pick they traded away (for TELFAIR!)
is the most outrageously apt way of crowing about Brandon Roy, Portland Trail Blazer!

I love it. Wouldn't want it to have been anywhere else, even here.
This way, it's just like, if this were 1985, making US post
"Rookie of the Year: MICHAEL JORDAN".

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Apr 25, 2007 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

here's something interesting...
I've probably miscounted but I only see four championship winners among the last 27 ROY's.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Apr 25, 2007 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Different R.O.Y each year . . .
 . . . but a ton of repeat champions over that period.
That means, between the 84-85 season and the 04-05 season,
there have been 21 R.O.Y.s, but just (let me see) *8*teams winning the championship:
Showtime L[xxx]rs #
Bird Celtics #
Bad Boy Pistons
Jordan Bulls #
Hakeem Rockets
Duncan Spurs #
Shakobe L[xxx]rs #
Darko-era Pistons
And yeah, R.O.Y.s accounted for the teams with a '#' after them.
Houston won with Hakeem, who would've been ROY in any non-MJ year.
Kinda surprised Isiah Thomas didn't win ROY; Terry Cummings took it that year (1982).

Anyway, the point seems to be, unless you're Detroit, you need a ROY to win a title.
And obviously, the recent ROY winners (Brandon included) are on teams
still on the upswing, teams whose best shots at the crown are yet to come.
LeBron, CP3, Emeka, Brandon, Amare, Pau AND Mike Miler:
Do you really think the Cavs, Nookies, Bobcats, Trail Blazers, Suns and Grizzlies
don't have their best title shot
still ahead of them (counting this year's Suns team)?
The delay between a good rookie and his team's best years is a substantial one.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Apr 25, 2007 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apologies--that reads as kinda hostile.
Really, I just wanted to say, you are NOT mistaken, there really ARE
not many champs among the ROYs--the four you mentioned,
plus Bird and Kareem (ROYS before your 27-year window,
but on championship teams within that period).
Just that the explanation is NOT that ROYS don't help make champions.
Clearly, they do.

It just takes some time, and champions can repeat whereas ROYs cannot.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Apr 25, 2007 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Naw, I took it right...
no worries.

And, of course, I agree, but...

I really believe that good solid role players are as important to a championship as a hotshot player (ROY-type) is.  I think the Big Shot Bob's and Jim Paxsons and Dennis Rodmans are crucial.

My main thought when I looked at the list was that making a great draft is good, but having the right player(s) at the right time(s) is the most important thing.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Apr 25, 2007 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

And of those ROYs who won titles
how many were still on their rookie team?  I know I looked at #1 draft picks awhile back and very few of them stayed long with their first team.  (Suns' draftees were about the only ones.)

by jorga on Apr 25, 2007 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

4 of them did...
Hakeem, Michael, Tim and David did, Shaq did not.

(there were five, I knew I miscounted.)

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Apr 25, 2007 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hakeem wasn't a ROY.
Same year as Jordan.

I just count him (and Magic, too) as very ROY-like players, since the only reason
they didn't win that award was their rookie company, MJ and Bird.

And let's not forget Dr. J, around whom the champion Sixers were built.
He most certainly would've been the NBA R.O.Y.--except he rooked in the ABA.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Apr 25, 2007 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

you're right..
I misspoke.  I was thinking of Bird.

by ken @ Blazer's Edge on Apr 25, 2007 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not Shaq, and not Kareem.
But the L[xxx]rs still very much built their championship teams around Kareem,
having acquired him from the Bucks so darn early in his career.
and certainly the Spurs were built around forst Robinson and then Duncan,
the Celtics were built around Bird, and the Bulls were built around MJ.
Even with the near-ROYs, the Rockets were built around Hakeem,
and the first Pistons were built around Isiah.
The only ROY to win a title by joining some other team in mid-career,
a team that was already mostly built, was Shaq joining the L[xxx]rs.

Anyway, to Ken's "you need role players"--no dispute there.
But this seems to indicate that those roles need to fill in around a franchise anchor,
one that was brought up through that franchise, not obtained after the fact.
(The exception, of course, being the current Pistons team.
And yes--he may not be a ROY, but Dwyane Wyade certainly qualifies as that anchor.)

Which, by the way, is all totally contrary to what has been my opinion.
I've mostly thought having The Stud is NOT the way to go.
Turns out, it is--but you gotta MAKE that stud, you can't just go get him.
That's bad news for Vince Carter. And Rashard Lewis, for that matter.

Steve Nash being one heck of a powerful counterargument to that, though.

Blazers have a five-on-three...and they pull it back and wait for help.

by QualityPie on Apr 25, 2007 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Waiting to hear
what award Joey Crawford really did win ...

by jorga on Apr 25, 2007 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

LOL
Just found the Most Improved Player list and cracked up over one who got quite a few votes : "Imeka Udoka".  Do we know him??

Got to that list from a link on the Celtics Blog which apparently no one reads. The only commenter on most of thee postings is our own StevetheHedge. (One question: why does Morrison have the ball in that picture?  He wasn't #1 - nor is he now.  And far from the best looking...)

by jorga on Apr 25, 2007 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

ewww
Who voted for Nocioni???

by Tyrus Thomas on Apr 25, 2007 7:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Aw!
No SB Nation respect for the one point I threw to Darius Miles?

by rockingharder on Apr 25, 2007 7:22 PM PDT reply actions  

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