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Game 24 Preview: Blazers at Nuggets

Ah yes, here's where it all comes crashing down.  The Nuggets are on the docket tonight.  They are 14-9 overall, 10-3 at home.  More importantly, they are like Kryptonite to whatever super powers we have.  It's not so much that they can stop us.  Super Trout may still get out of the phone booth and high in the air by the fourth.  Brandon Roy may pull more gadgets out of his utility belt than we thought possible.  James Jones may play the long-range sniper role to the hilt.  It probably doesn't matter.  We can't stop them.  It's almost as if they're built to crush us on offense.  Carmelo Anthony and Allen Iverson might as well be natural disasters for all we can do about them.  Iverson causes our guards no end of trouble with his drives, his ability to absorb punishment, and his free throw drawing.  He's never been shy about hoisting but this year he's shooting 46.5%.  When he's hitting at that clip everybody is in trouble.  Believe it or not, we're even less equipped to handle Anthony.  Name me a small forward we have who can play defense.  I'll wait.  Still waiting...  If you said Travis Outlaw, forget it.  He has athletic ability and comes with the energy now and again but this isn't like helping to handle Dirk Nowitzki earlier in the year (a task Travis was up to on that one night at home).  Dirk is slower and far more predictable than `Melo.  Anthony will okey-doke Travis like a Three-Card Monte dealer.  Trout better hide his wallet and get out of town.  There have been exactly three games all season where neither of the Wonder Twins have scored 25+.  Even one of them busting 30 could well be enough to beat us.

The other guy who's been playing out of his mind for Denver has been Marcus Camby.  He's always been six kinds of trouble for us because he can hit that jumper from the foul line and our bigger centers don't like to come out on him.  You'd think Channing Frye could help out here but Channing Frye couldn't find his way over Niagra Falls in an oar-less rowboat right now.  Camby has also been even more of a terror on the boards than usual, averaging 14.8 per game.  That, my friends, is nastier than Rosie O'Donnell's armpits.  (Not that I know personally.)  He can pass the ball and block the heck out of your shot too.  Even though he's not the greatest straight-up defender in the world I don't think that's a severe handicap with Joel Przybilla on the other side.

Denver also gets credible minutes from Kenyon Martin and Linas Kleiza at forward.  Nene Hilario is nowhere near the force he was last year but his athleticism always seems to give us trouble.  The rest of their lineup is so-so.  If we can manage to get them to focus on somebody besides the aforementioned half-dozen guys maybe we have a shot?

When they're not exploiting their 31 flavors of scoring Denver thrives on thefts and charity tosses.  They average an amazing 10.2 steals per game.  They routinely get 5 more foul attempts than opponents.  For those who believe in voodoo, they're also an incredible free-throw defensive team.  Their opponents are mysteriously averaging under 70% against them at the line.  I can only guess they excel at trash talking in the rebounding queue.

So what are the Nuggets' weaknesses?  They have a few.  Despite all of their frontcourt accolades they actually give up more rebounds than they get.  Anthony in particular has a habit of disappearing on the boards and if he's not paying attention they're not the same team.  The Blazers seldom take advantage of rebounding indifference, however.  Denver will also turn the ball over like they were allergic to it.  Their losses often involve a spectacular amount of scoring by their opponents for exactly this reason.

What I'd Like To See

  1.  First and foremost I'd like to see at least one quarter of the gritty, gutsy, polished basketball we've been playing...and I'd like it to be the first quarter.  If Denver thinks we're playing too close for comfort and decides to brush us off like an annoying fly later in the game I'm good with that.  But I want them to have to work at it instead of us approaching the contest like Lenny Suckerpunch trying to get his first date.
  2.  Denver is going to remember the old Blazers more than they respect the new Blazers.  That means they're likely to pack it in and dare us to shoot at first.  So be it.  Our guys have got to hit a couple to free things up.  I'm looking at you Martell Webster, James Jones, and Steve Blake.  But after that we need to drive and start hitting some bodies in there.  Bounce off of Marcus Camby like a pinball and try to get him fouled to the bench.  Make Carmelo move his feet on defense.  Attack the lane with the same gusto you've had during the winning streak.
  3.  We CANNOT TURN THE BALL OVER.  All we need is to send them to Dunkyland with day passes courtesy of our miscues.  They'll ride that coaster until they throw up and we'll walk away with a 26 point defeat.
  4.  A big key to this game will be our second unit dominating theirs.  If we can go +10 with the subs and scrubs we give the starters a far better chance to pull out a surprise win in the fourth.  If we play even or lose to their second unit we can probably kiss this game goodbye.  By the way Pine Crew, you did read what I just said about turnovers, right?
  5.  Anything you can do to make J.R. Smith take over the game offensively, do it.
  6.  If you recall the Nuggets made like schoolyard bullies last time we played and we pretty much knuckled under.  You can bet they're going to put physical pressure on us again.  Have we learned anything?
  7.  Providing we do lose this game (which obviously I think is likely) I'd love to hear very little Blazer fan complaining of people not stepping up, coaches being stupid, or whatever.  A six game win streak is amazing for this team, especially in Lamarcus' absence.  A seventh victory on the road against the Nuggets would be beyond the pale.  If it happens we should be dancing in the streets like we just won the lottery.  But falling short tonight wouldn't tarnish the streak one bit, nor does it mean we suddenly turned into a bad team.  All it means is we were overmatched on the court as well as on paper.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Some Wild Cards
No mention of Joel. He needs to stay out of foul trouble and he is the better player when we played before. I have a feeling its time for a breakout game for Martell. If that flu thing is over he may surprise tomorrow. I have a quiet confidence about tomorrow. Once again we have absolutely nothing to lose. Something tells me Channing drops 15. If that happens ..we will be fine.

Denver played a tough game tonight, (I believe the Spurs, I think I just saw that they lost)., but I still see them coming out on fired up. Good...It makes us better.

by mschofer on Dec 15, 2007 11:10 PM PST reply actions  

Well said, Dave
I, too, have been waiting for more whining about Nate's coaching once the train rolls off the track.

Pitiful.

"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"

by broggerboy19 on Dec 15, 2007 11:24 PM PST reply actions  

Dave's Commentary
HOW AWFUL!  I just lost all respect for you Dave with this commentary and have decided NEVER to login to this site again.  Your personal attacks on players are down-right DISGUSTING and of POOR CHOICE.  It's okay to have a valid opinion but personal attacks should be purely off limits!  What a LOSER YOU ARE!  The team is winning; Nate is integrating all the players into the game and starting to teach and guide this young team and now you're taking vicious shots at players for the sake of readership.  I for one say enough is enough!  DISAPPOINTED and SHAMEFUL are you!

by The Observer @ Blazer's Edge on Dec 16, 2007 12:26 AM PST reply actions  

Check yourself my friend
I don't like to delete stuff like this because it makes people feel validated, but you are way out of bounds here.  I re-read the piece and the only thing that can even be mildly construed as a "personal attack" is the assertion that "Channing couldn't find his way over Niagra Falls...right now" thing, especially on defense.  And that's pretty much the truth and not at all personal.  I actually like Channing's off-court attitude very much and have said so several times.

Oh, and I don't do anything on this site for the sake of readership.  Like it or not, I say what I see.

--Dave

by Dave on Dec 16, 2007 12:36 AM PST up reply actions  

um was this a joke?
if not you're way out of line

but this line
"It's okay to have a valid opinion but personal attacks should be purely off limits!  What a LOSER YOU ARE! "
is dumb/hypocritical enough that i think it could have been a weak attempt at humor

by DominicanAvenger on Dec 16, 2007 12:39 AM PST up reply actions  

slash
pretty spot-on commentary...matchup-wise this team scares the crap out of me...

then again i thought utah would come out pissed friday and crush us...so shows what i know

by DominicanAvenger on Dec 16, 2007 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

What about Lenny?
Gotta Date? Mr. Suckerpunch

Hehe

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Dec 16, 2007 1:01 AM PST up reply actions  

So Sad
Too Bad.
honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Dec 16, 2007 1:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah
He's a world-champion predictor, an ace with the numbers.  But with the chicks?  Total flop.  I've tried to give him some lessons but they're just not taking.

--Dave

by Dave on Dec 16, 2007 1:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Yah
That's what I like about this place, in virtual time & space. Your help at acheiving our potential is greatly appriecated but Lenny?

Poor Lenny

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Dec 16, 2007 1:37 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL
That post deserves an acronym or two followed by a question mark.

by damir on Dec 16, 2007 1:43 AM PST up reply actions  

What's an acronym?
Gots any handy?

It's either Late or Early in the mornin', dependin' on your point of view, & I can't think of one or what it is I should be tryin' to think about. Darn It!

honkaplayboys.com

by BlueBooYay on Dec 16, 2007 1:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Try this...
Perhaps this will more closely fit with what The Observer (as ironic a name as I've seen on this site) is looking for:

Ah yes, here's where our Blazers may struggle.  The Nuggets are on the docket tonight and boy it might get tough.  They are 14-9 overall, 10-3 at home and that's better than our record.  More importantly, they are like Kryptonite to whatever super powers we have.  It's not so much that they can stop us.  Travis Outlaw might be like Superman and he may still get out of the phone booth and high in the air by the fourth.  Brandon Roy may like Batman and pull more gadgets out of his utility belt than we thought possible.  James Jones may play the long-range sniper role to the hilt.

But that may not be enough to win because those Denver Nuggest have some very good players of their own. If our Blazers don't win it will probably be because of the refs or just bad luck or something like that. Rest assured it won't be due to any failings or lack of talent and experience of our players.  They're the best! Go Blazers! Rip City! BOOM CHAKA-LAKA!

by jon @ Blazer's Edge on Dec 16, 2007 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Re-Read Your Own Post...
"Observer".

You went after Dave for "Personal Attacks" by doing the very thing that you accused him of doing Attacking Personally. Most of us here at BE know what a great...Let me try that again...GREAT Writer, Blogger,and Basketball Analyst that Dave is and how privileged we are to have him at the helm.

Now go stand in the corner and think about what you did...

"Now LMA steals!!!!!!! And LMA DUNKS ON THE OTHER END!!!!!!!" - Dave

by LaMarvelous on Dec 16, 2007 10:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmmm,
the only thing that makes sense is that you (The Observer) are Channing's mother.

by TwoDeep on Dec 16, 2007 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

If this post isn't a joke, well...it IS.
That is to say, the poster is way off.  Before reading this, I was going to comment that daunting opponents bring out the best in Dave's humor.  There was some laugh-out-loud material in there.  

I thought that was a very funny, yet on-target game preview.  The jabs at Channing and Ms Rosie were humorous, not mean-spirited.  Like Rosie hangs out a Blazersedge to be offended.  Silly stuff.

Hopefully, the poster was just trying to be funny.  But not nearly as successfully as Dave.

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Dec 16, 2007 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you know?
Last week Dave messed around and got a triple double
Freaking bloggaz every way like M.J.
Randee of the Redwoods '08

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2007 9:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Zone...
I'm kind of wondering whether the Blazers attempt that zone on the Nuggets.  I'm not sure whether it's a gimmick or a real defensive strat.  If it worked on the Warriors...

In fact, the Nuggets remind me a lot of the Warriors.  The main difference is Camby.  Between him and the gambling perimeter D, it's going to be hard for the Blazers to get to the line without turning the ball over.  On the other side, if they zone the Nuggets, Camby should presumably not get wide open jump shots.  The obvious risk is to get burned on 3 pointers though, so not sure whether they do it that way or not.

by ranma on Dec 16, 2007 12:46 AM PST reply actions  

they could give it a try but
kleiza and melo will hit that 3 if you give it to them...

by DominicanAvenger on Dec 16, 2007 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, they zoned them.
And it hurt the Nuggets.  So that's three good teams it worked against, only one of them young.  Maybe it's something the Blazers are good at?  Truth is, it's not a straight zone.  They switch between it and man-to-man, but they have been doing a good job switching to zone when teams like Denver start driving, and they stick with it even when the opponent hits a few threes.  Looks like it's not a gimmick.

by ranma on Dec 16, 2007 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Good Analysis - some adds
Three players that matter:

Linas Kleiza, whom we drafted and traded to Denver, seems to be superman with the Blazers. He kills us from the 2nd unit. Which may be why...

Nene did not play at all against the Spurs last night. Is he hurt? Maybe not a factor.

K-Mart coming back from a suspension (bringing a loss from the Spurs last night) is likely to come out with an agenda tonight. Not sure who can handle him. Raef? Yeah I didn't think so either. Still a couple of blocks can alter a player's game.

They do not have a player that can guard Roy and will have to double him leaving someone open. We simply have to get the passes without the steals to the open man. Not so simple in practice.

by lee3022 on Dec 16, 2007 1:52 AM PST reply actions  

That reminds me
I forgot to mention that it wouldn't hurt for Jarrett Jack to have an enormous game against the team that drafted and traded him.

I will admit that Kleiza's progress has taken me somewhat by surprise.  I didn't think he would be as good as he's been.

--Dave

by Dave on Dec 16, 2007 2:04 AM PST up reply actions  

i hope the altitude
doesn't adversely affect outlaw's asthma.

i don't like denver. i don't like iversen and i don't like carmelo. now that i think about it i don't like kenyon martin either. or camby. or j.r. smith.

ignacio

by ignacio on Dec 16, 2007 2:11 AM PST reply actions  

I concur on all counts
As I recall part of my pre-season evaluation of the Nuggets included the sentence, "I don't want Denver to be good but (sigh) they are."

Something to that effect anyway.

--Dave

by Dave on Dec 16, 2007 2:26 AM PST up reply actions  

And then we went to Denver...
It's been the story of the year so far.

We were on a 4-game winning streak.

And then we went to Denver.

Now we're on a 6-game streak.

And then we went to Denver.

The good news?

After tonight, we won't be going back to Denver any time soon.

by Majikj0n on Dec 16, 2007 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

THAT
Is one of the most brilliant things I've ever read.  Let's hope the epitaph doesn't last for more than a year.

--Dave

by Dave on Dec 16, 2007 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess we'll see...
...if they can take a positive step, and not let a loss in Denver carry over to Monday night (and beyond).

The last time we went to Denver, it was the start of a stretch where we lost 9 of 10 games.

This time, if they can bounce back (Aldridge returning on Monday must surely help) then maybe they can learn how to not let a crushing defeat affect their overall morale.

Just one more important lesson for a growing team.

by Majikj0n on Dec 16, 2007 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I have never been happier...
...to be wrong about a prediction.

Tonight was just incredible.

by Majikj0n on Dec 16, 2007 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate facing Denver
They are the only team in the league I feel we can't hang with.  I'm a massive homer too.

Stupid match-ups.

And that guy's comment was a total joke, calm down folks, it's the internet.

by robrun2 on Dec 16, 2007 11:06 AM PST reply actions  

Maybe The Observer
is actually an incognito Fatty come to stir a little angst into the pot. His/her comments seem a bit tongue in cheek to me.

by annthefan on Dec 16, 2007 4:43 PM PST reply actions  

Here's the problem:
I just realized today that every game on our winstreak was watched by me later at night on my DVR.  Tonight, I can watch the game as it happens on NBATV.  

I'm worried that me watching on DVR is the reason we are winning, and we'll find out tonight.

I HOPE that the win streak is caused by me putting the X-Mas lights up, cause I did that around the same time!

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Dec 16, 2007 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

that slippery ball
I just remembered that Roy's shot was horribly off the last Denver game.  Remember?  He said he'd forgotten that, due to the thin, dry air, he needs to put powder on his hands prior to Denver games.  (Could it be this is the secret to Denver's amazing free throw defense?)  

Well, something tells me Roy will remember that tonight.  I hope to see more white powder on the Blazers' fingers tonight than you'd see at a party in '70s Hollywood.

"Ime caught the guy in mid-air with a fist and calmly continued his dispatching of oncoming people." -Gabe Muoneke

by hurryup09 on Dec 16, 2007 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

Well Dave
I read this preview after the Blazers won. I'd have to say you were pretty much wrong about most everything--however, that's okay. You're afforded a few of these a season. :)
"Timmy, you eat your vegetables or I'm going to make you watch Channing Frye play interior defense!" (GULP! CHEW-CHEW-CHEW!) - Dave

by jamon51 on Dec 16, 2007 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

It's good to be wrong...
...at a time like this.

Every time you *know* this team is in over its head, they keep raising the bar.

Where's the ceiling on this thing?

by Majikj0n on Dec 16, 2007 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't mind being wrong
about whether the Blazers could pull it off.  But you didn't read very carefully.  If you look at points 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 of the "What I'd Like To See" section you'll find that's pretty much exactly how the Blazers won.  Point 5 turned out not mattering and point 7 didn't apply.  

--Dave

by Dave on Dec 16, 2007 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

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