Gameday Open Thread: Blazers at Wizards
OK...erase, erase, erase memories of last night. This game will be better! Register your pre-game thoughts, in-game comments, and post-game reactions here.
Remember it's once again a 4:00 Pacific start.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
Update: Jason Quick is reporting that one of the first effects of last night's game will be Taurean Green replacing Sergio Rodriguez in the second unit. The reasoning, according to Quick, boils down to "he's had multiple chances and only come through once (vs. Detroit)". Of course I'll lay pretty good odds that Taurean will also be up and down, so that position may change again before long.
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I still believe in this team
I think they will come out inspired tonight! It will be a tougher game- Washington is better than Philly, but the Wizards played last night also. I think the Blazers can get it done.
You were wrong buddy
You were wrong. They most definitely did NOT come out inspired tonight.
A urine-poor performance, in the final analysis. Just godawful. I want a refund for my expectations.
What game last night?
Buffet?
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
i wish i went to the buffet too.
Lunch Buffets are EVIL
While puzzled about Joel, I'm actually not horrified by last night's game. I'm actually sort of heartened by the fact that they were in a position to absolutely demolish a team.
Here's my thinking: watching Detroit play the L*kers last night, I was struck by how easily they did things. They just weren't trying that hard and they're in the game. Reminds me of SA.
When WE do things, they always seem really, really hard. Like, the only way we can stay competitive is to expend twice the effort of other teams which, over the long haul, is not a cost-effective solution.
Last night's game said to me we're a dang fine team when we're expending major effort but we're not so good at cruise control yet. (Or demonstrably bad at cruise control.)
This as opposed to prior teams which were awesome (or thought they were awesome) at cruise control but couldn't ever go into high gear.
Ergo, THESE GUYS HAVE HIGH GEAR SORT OF FIGURED OUT!
So no, I don't regard last night's game as a catastrophe. Much easier for me than that earlier road loss in NO.
But Joel... I can't figure out Joel. How can someone so sound and good not be able to get on the court?
Marbury to blazers
"http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Knicks-could-deal-Marbury-to-Kings-or-Blazers?urn=nba,53956"
by bubba on Nov 17, 2007 12:45 PM PST reply actions
is it actually happening?
by OregonDuckworth on Nov 17, 2007 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Just a possibility.
by bubba on Nov 17, 2007 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
I think Pritchard shot this down yesterday
Beating traps
If the Blazers can't make opponents pay for trapping, then they'll be getting a steady diet of it.
If I was Paul Allen
...Hello? (peeking my head through the entrance)
Never doubted
--Dave
Good afternoon all!
It'll probably be a better game.
--Dave
So Taurean it is
by OregonDuckworth on Nov 17, 2007 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently resting
Let's teach them the error of their ways.
Blazers miss
Haywood inside fouled by Frye on a shot
Nice play
And Butler hits. 7-2
LMA misses and Frye fouls underneath.
Roy late in the clock miss
Now Wizards dunk. 11-2. Timeout Nate. Struggling on defense.
Was there any word on Joel?
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 4:18 PM PST reply actions
This is brutal.
by bubba on Nov 17, 2007 4:20 PM PST reply actions
is it me or does our halfcourt offense
pretty unimaginative.
OHHHH
How many opportunities at the rim have we had tonight? Anybody?
Answer: zero
WOW
Hmmmm
We have a really hard time when our secondary scorers aren't hitting. Jack anyone?
LMA dunk along the baseline!
Nate's timeout apparently addressed some issues. They haven't scored since.
Good D by Martell...
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 4:27 PM PST reply actions
Jack in
BLOCK PRZY!
That's how you get your shot to fall!
9-11
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 4:30 PM PST reply actions
WOOH
Jack pretty good defense there
Roy drives and is blocked.
Wiz can't convert on the other end layup and LMA DUNKS!
14-11
Jack muscles up
Green in.
Let's see what you can do!
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 4:32 PM PST reply actions
Don't worry about Washington
Oh...ooops
Butler hits all three
Baseball pass is intercepted. Blatche shoved Outlaw out of the way to get it. Quarter over. 22-15
What in the world
Ugh
4 turnovers in 1st quarter
18-24
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 4:39 PM PST reply actions
What the heck
Why the heck
cmon derrick rose cmon.....
by soulja2boy on Nov 17, 2007 4:43 PM PST reply actions
i mean cmon oj mayo
by soulja2boy on Nov 17, 2007 4:44 PM PST reply actions
Webster still can't buy a bucket
24 second violation
(sigh)
Jack hits another beautiful shot
Somebody tell me why Trout was the last guy down the court for us that time by a long shot.
Tell me
We are having
Trout for three,,,misses
WHY?
Now Jamison hits a long one. 43-32
LMA turn-around hits. 43-34
I don't mind
so....
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I like that...
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 4:59 PM PST reply actions
I think we will be alright
LMA completely bricks a shot
They miss though and we get it back. Roy fouled on the dribble. Roy to the line.
Within 6 at the half
Roy hits both. 43-36
Mason misses
Jamison fouled and to the line.
Wow
We went inside, then LMA passed to a streaking Trout, who fumbled it and poked it back to LMA, who got blocked but got it back and was fouled.
Lamarcus at the line. Misses first! Hits second.
45-37
Jamison misses a three
Now Jack travels.
Does anyone else not like Jack down near the baseline? Has anything good come of having him there besides about 7 turnovers in 2 games?
Wiz score...47-37
Why is trout in and joel out?
Misses first!
We just pour points down the drain.
1 of 2 hit. 47-38. Wiz have last shot
Trout stays in front of Antonio Daniels
Blazer ball, 5.8 seconds left. Timeout.
Green needs an 8 minute stretch
Indeed...
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
I just want to point out
I hope Nate
Yeah....
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 5:10 PM PST reply actions
How is Fort Washington, Maryland...
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 5:15 PM PST reply actions
just got here
pathetic.
the Blazers are a better team than Washington. They need to prove it in the 2nd half.
Martell Webster's 3 pt percentage
We badly need him to find his rhythm again.
What is the deal with the unkown guy?
Why do these guys light it up against us?
I guess Williams is having a respectable season so far at 7.8 pts per game, but really, 19 last night? And Roger "Who?" Mason coming in at 1.7 pts. per?
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 5:23 PM PST reply actions
where's the effort???
I'll say it again. The Blazers are a better team than the Wizards. They just need to play like they believe it.
No sooner do I say that
Why does Nate continue to think
LMA and Pryzbilla
WOW
It's like we can do any one thing well but when it comes to putting two things together it's beyond us.
Talent means nothing...
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 5:33 PM PST reply actions
the wizards have offensive rebounded
we look like we don't care.
See that bouncing reddish round thing?
Now, when the other team throws that ball toward your basket, YOU have to grab the freaking rebound.
JUST GRAB THE FREAKING REBOUND
I must really love this team...
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 5:36 PM PST reply actions
We have not
why does
Thanks for that make up call!!
by GimmeIme on Nov 17, 2007 5:48 PM PST reply actions
This Jack doubting Crow
we're down by 15
can we make a FT please?
wow
by soulja2boy on Nov 17, 2007 5:52 PM PST reply actions
AAAAaaargh
That last play
I was going to say we've put ourselves in a position where a lot of things have to go right in order for us to pull it out, but nevermind...it just didn't.
Weird
For Godsake
Thank GOd
life
worst stretch of b'ball I've ever seen
There's this really cool
by bubba on Nov 17, 2007 5:58 PM PST reply actions
Why is Brandon...
by kdfkwak on Nov 17, 2007 5:58 PM PST reply actions
There we go
She's using green paint
by bubba on Nov 17, 2007 6:00 PM PST reply actions
Care to explain
draft
I'm buying that.
steady and smart
isn't available
Uh Why
Cause
Yeah but he is our
airballs
strangely
we aren't getting a good game from our stars, haywood is 9 for 9 from the line... this can go in the 'just one of those nights' category. Totally different from last night.
To me
interesting take
Wow
gonna lose by 25
i agree - tonight is worse
At least
by bubba on Nov 17, 2007 6:12 PM PST reply actions
I gotta be honest...
by kdfkwak on Nov 17, 2007 6:13 PM PST reply actions
Yep
Sergio/Green, Jack, Outlaw, Frye, Joel. That would be our second unit. That would add a lot more balance and an easier rotation for Nate.
Doesn't that point to the coach?
by kdfkwak on Nov 17, 2007 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
Not really
Outlaw is the master
'young team'
LaFriendly is out there now
only positive
I'm wishing we
Well according to Oden.
I also heard
But when you consider Dwight Howard...
by kdfkwak on Nov 17, 2007 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Charlotte is a very important game.
We are a better team by far than Philly and I still think we are better than Washington. We just need to play with more poise.
I still believe in this club.
charlotte
If they were just
by bubba on Nov 17, 2007 6:21 PM PST reply actions
Wow
Thanks folks
The short and sweet game recap will be coming up in a little while, along with Jersey contest scores.
--Dave
could this garbage time run by Martell...
oh- that missed FT won't help.
and this is Sergio's fault?
Look at Jack or Blake's numbers after 6 minutes and tell me if they make a difference in the game.
Sergio is in his second yer in the NBA, he is not KOBE!!
But the way is the MVP of the World Championship under 20 years old!!!, well, I guess, he was just lucky!!
by blazersupanddown on Nov 17, 2007 6:25 PM PST reply actions
Fire this coach now!!
Seriously, we are young but that is not an excuse to lose against the sixers the way we lost and against the wizards without Arenas.
But let's not forget this is the same coach that sat Lamarcus last year for 12 games without playing a second until he realized that the guy is going to be an All Stat this year or next year.
This is also the same coach that yesterday after the second unit was 13 - 0 sat Joel and Sergio on the bench and we went 7 - 14 without them.
This is also the same coach that will use Joel for 6 minutes and sit him on the bench regardless of whether he goes scoreless or he is 8 points 8 rebounds.
This is also the same coach that hates Sergio and I hope he trades him so that the guy becomes the new Tony Parker. That way the fans will realize that Nate is never going to be the right coach for this team.
He does have something with Sergio, maybe is because Sergio is already better that he ever was, maybe is because he is international, but how do you sit the guy against Detroit after he scores 7 in a row and gives 2 assists putting the team back in the game and put Blake back who is scoreless after 35 minutes?
Give Sergio the same chances you give Jack and Steve and would realize why Espn ranks him already as the 20th best point guard in the league well ahead of Blake and Jack
I think a lot has to do with the ownership wanting thi team to run but Nate wants this team to play the way he used to play, tough defense and 23 second possesions. Nate, wake up, you retired over 10 years ago!!
Let other people play different that you used to play, there is nothing wrong with it
Play Sergio, Jack, Roy, Lamarcus and Frye with Outlaw, Blake and Pryzbilla coming in the second unit.
Anybody else thinks he same way?
by blazersupanddown on Nov 17, 2007 6:26 PM PST reply actions
I have to agree
Sorry I was unclear there
Have to disagree
We already have beef in there, his name is Greg Oden and he's injured this year... Besides, I'm not sure what exactly we could get with that combo. Also, one day of practice is not enough to remedy our point guard situation, which is the reason we can't beat the press. While Jack has ably transformed into a quality 6th man, Blake has shown that he's not a real starting point guard. The answer this year? None, really. It sucks, but we're probably stuck with this weakness until this offseason.
by OregonDuckworth on Nov 17, 2007 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
No
As for the coach, he did not wish for a team full of young players. It's real easy for us to second-guess his moves just as I recall Blazer fans second-guessing the moves of Rick Adelman when the early 90s teams were going deep into the playoffs.
For those of you who think Sergio is being unfairly treated, please recall that he played two minutes in the final game this past summer for the Spanish team. That coach was making the choices he thought best to win the game just as Nate does. Sergio is a very young player with a ton of potential, but that potential hasn't even been realized in the Euroleague with which he is most comfortable and familiar.
We need to be patient.
I hate to disagree
HE is never going to be super star playing 8 minutes a game
Jack wasn't good last year but they gave him a full year of 36 minutes a game to see what he was capable of
Do that with this kiddo and you will see we have an all star on this guy!
by blazersupanddown on Nov 17, 2007 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure
Everyone playing in the NBA has been a star somewhere. Obviously Sergio has a ton of potential. I did not suggest otherwise. That is why the team payed 3 million for the opportunity to draft him.
If they put Sergio in the game for 36 minutes for a full year that would be called charity and while more of that would make a better world, it wouldn't make a better NBA. Sergio has to earn his time just like everyone else.
No Road Wins
No signs to lead you home
There's no lights to tell you not to go
And nowhere is the only place that it goes
The only place that everybody knows
The Lonely road.
And if we laughed and if we cried we did it all together
It never once crossed my mind it would last forever
One mistake, that's all it takes and then
You turn around, you're on your own again
This is the lonely road
No signs to lead you home
There's no lights to tell you not to go
And nowhere is the only place that it goes
The only place that everybody knows
The Lonely road.
By MATT DUSK

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