Media Row Report: Rockets 103, Blazers 96
The Houston Rockets defeated the Portland Trail Blazers, 103-96, at the Rose Garden on Wednesday night, dropping Portland's record to 14-12.
"It was all good just a week ago," Jay-Z famously lamented in 1996, and while it wasn't quite all good for Portland last week, those days were certainly better than Wednesday night's demoralizing loss to the Rockets, the Blazers' third defeat in four games. This game came packaged with enough extenuating circumstances -- a heartbreaking, controversial loss to the Oklahoma City Thunder on Monday, plus four key players dealing with minor injuries or illness -- to prevent this from being a true crossroads game, but it's fair to say that Bone Thugs N Harmony are beginning to warm up their vocal chords just offstage.
In December, the generally-accepted premise was that it would take roughly 20 games to get a read on a team. 26 games in -- now that Portland has been exposed as mortal at home -- the book is fully out on the Blazers, who currently sit in the Western Conference's No. 9 position. This is a team with one excellent player, slightly above-average talent, average heart, and slightly below-average situational intelligence. That's a pretty good blueprint for producing both crushing victories and crushing defeats, exactly what's played out this season and during the last week in particular.
There are endless places that can be -- and have been -- pointed to for potential, hypothetical improvement. It's a bit of a boring exercise, but here's a short list. Gerald Wallace could bring more consistent energy and make more shots at the rim; Raymond Felton could shoot the ball better and protect the ball better; Wesley Matthews could get back to the comfort zone he felt during portions of last season; Jamal Crawford could exercise better shot selection; Nicolas Batum could play more minutes or produce more in his reserve role, chiefly by "becoming more aggressive"; LaMarcus Aldridge could grow into a go-to scorer down the stretch; Rhino could grow wings and learn how to fly; Portland could get back to pushing tempo more often to create more high percentage looks; Portland quit playing from behind so much so that Marcus Camby could play more late in games; and Portland could extend its flashes of intense team defense, making that its calling card instead of just an unpredictable very pleasant surprise.
Again, marginal improvements can be found virtually everywhere. That's life when you're under-performing high internal expectations and playing maddeningly up-and-down basketball. Anyone can list the weak areas. The trick is devising a framework that will actually create the desired improvements. The time for roster decisions is now one month away, which means the Blazers have entered open season for implementing that framework or living with the potentially harsh consequences.
On Wednesday, Blazers coach Nate McMillan didn't sound like a man who felt confident that he has that trick hiding in his top hat.
His confusion, right now, is in finding the right player groupings to reliably kick the machine into gear.
"To figure out the combinations of players," McMillan said, addressing his biggest frustration. "Motivating these guys. Getting them to play both ways and getting that right combination out there that can and will do that. We've just, we've played in spurts."
During five minutes of post-game comments, he name-checked three media members, showing an extra, unusual degree of courtesy, perhaps hoping for the same in return when it came to press time.
Who could blame him? McMillan's team had just finished playing its flattest home game of the season, the type of play it has reserved for the Detroits and Sacramentos of the NBA world, not the Rose Garden, where the crowd worked harder than the team all night, except for an eight-minute stretch of the third quarter when Wallace decided to fly around for old time's sake. Turnovers everywhere (19 for the game); killed on the glass (-10 differential and just 6 offensive rebounds as a team). In locker room vernacular, this was a b***s*** effort, the kind of game where each player self-incriminatingly looks at his feet during the halftime and post-game tirades because he can't hold eye contact or honestly feel pride in the effort.
Camby was feeling the effects of bronchitis, McMillan said, and that's why he played just 17 minutes. Aldridge reported feeling sick when he woke up Wednesday morning and said he couldn't shake it off during a "lethargic" night in which he scored just 13 points and took just 14 shots. Felton said his sprained left foot was troubling him to the point where he had to get it re-taped at halftime. And Batum still looks limited by his recent knee contusion, as he finished with 10 points, 2 rebounds and 1 assist.
On top of those injuries and illness, the painful Thunder loss hung in the air. Asked the obvious question -- Did you team let down after a tough one? -- McMillan non-answered.
"That game, we've got to put behind us," he said, before dodging. "Shouldn't be. Shouldn't be a letdown."
On the yes to no spectrum, "shouldn't be" is 99 percent of the way to affirmative. Portland played like a team that expected karma to reach down and hand it a win as an apology for Scott Foster.
"We started off basically scrapping the game plan from the start," McMillan said, using "scrapping" to mean that his team didn't follow the prepared instructions at all. "We never defended them right from the start."
That was surely true. Houston left the Rose Garden with chest puffed out, enjoying what Houston Chronicle beat writer Jonathan Feigen called the team's "best win of the season." The Rockets passed Portland's flat-footed defense to death early and then attacked the paint mercilessly late. Six Rockets finished in double figures despite the fact that starting two guard Kevin Martin played just 15 minutes and starting point guard Kyle Lowry left the game early with an arm injury and did not return. Chase Budinger hit for a game-high 22 points and four threes, Courtney Lee chipped in 16 points on just nine shots and Goran Dragic added 10 points in the fourth quarter to finish it off.
"Those guys have been playing really well," Rockets coach Kevin McHale said of his bench. "They've had great practices. They've taken it right to the first team many days in practice."
The Rockets bench took it right to the Blazers' first team, and McHale wisely chose to ride them to the finish despite Portland mounting a comeback that erased a 19-point third quarter lead. The final damage: Houston's reserves outscored Portland's starters, 66-59, and they held the fourth quarter even in delivering the victory. The Rockets are not world-beaters, they are just 15-11 on the season. Those numbers can't happen.
The recent night-after-night struggles of guards Felton (4-for-11 shooting and five turnovers) and Matthews (4-10 and 1-for-5 from deep) prompted open questions to McMillan if perhaps the solution to finding the right "combinations" was a new starting lineup. McMillan shook off the questions, seeming to indicate that nothing was imminent.
"Somebody has to step out," he said. "I think all of our guys right now are doing some good things some nights and then some nights we're not. In order to look at something like that, you've got to have somebody who has stepped out and been consistent, so you've earned the right to make a move like that."
When it comes to the combinations, his hands are mostly tied with the current personnel. Playing Felton and Matthews together is tough because, well, because. Felton ranks No. 43 among point guards in PER and Matthews is No. 32 among shooting guards. PER isn't a magic potion but you have a very good idea of what to expect from those two given those rankings. They are collectively losing their match-ups on most nights.
Flopping Crawford in for Felton means that the early offense likely doesn't go through Aldridge and Wallace as much as it should, a winning feature of Portland's best play this season. Playing Crawford and Matthews together also gets tricky because neither is a natural facilitator.
Flopping Crawford in for Matthews at the start diminishes the effectiveness of whichever guard (Felton or Crawford) doesn't get the early touches. Playing Crawford and Felton together also doesn't make much sense, especially late in games, given how teams completely ignore Felton when he doesn't have the ball in his hands.
Flopping Batum in for Matthews to start leaves Matthews and Crawford together in the second unit, a less than ideal situation. It also means that Batum and Wallace, Portland's two impact perimeter defenders, would be playing concurrently. Overlap -- even lots of overlap -- between their shifts is a good thing. Total overlap probably isn't.
McMillan's best recent rotation solution had been to bring in Batum early for Matthews. All parts being healthy, that's the way to go. It gets the most out of the Batum/Wallace combination without overly front-loading it, it balances the skillsets of Felton, Matthews and Crawford, and it keeps the ball in the hands of Aldridge and Wallace early. That move, plus hiding Felton on the bench during crunch time, are the two adjustments that make sense after Wednesday night's game, which saw Batum sit for longer early and saw Felton once again being a liability on both ends late. If this team is going to go down, it should go down with Batum playing bigger minutes every night and Felton watching when the game is on the line.
This group's early season swagger was replaced in Wednesday's locker room by a lot of empty quotes about playing better, and a slowly increasing level of verbal urgency. Felton, for example, said that Portland's upcoming 2-game road trip, with games against the New Orleans Hornets and Dallas Mavericks, are officially must-wins. Strong words for early February.
"We've got to get this thing together," Felton said. "It's not that we're out here trashing the game, throwing the game away, it's just that we're not playing with energy... We've got to get these next two wins, without a doubt. We've got to have these next games... These two games are a must-win for us."
It doesn't get more adamant than that, at least not now.
"I'm not really thinking about the standings," he continued, "it's the way we've been playing."
The night ended on that note, bemoaning the loss, wanting to give improved energy and hoping for better results, without anything close to a definite plan or any stated adjustments.
If your first stop after Wednesday night's loss was the Trade Machine, no one could blame you. If your first stop after reading this post was to head back to the Trade Machine, no one could blame you. Management's stated plan for this season was to test out the various pieces, maintain flexibility and sort out the decisions come summertime. After Wednesday, that plan is starting to look more and more like the ultimate test of patience for owner Paul Allen.
And tests of patience aren't exactly his specialty.
Random Game Notes
- I'm very much looking forward to a forthcoming Kurt Thomas feature from Matt Calkins of The Columbian. In looking at some numbers on HoopData.com pre-game, we noticed that Thomas, the mid-range jump shooting extraordinaire, is hitting his 16-23 foot shots at a higher percentage than every other NBA player, except Golden State Warriors guard Stephen Curry and Phoenix Suns guard Steve Nash (minimum 2 attempts in that range per game, minimum 5 games played). That is the definition of being in pure shooter elite company.
- Of course as soon as Kevin Pelton and I start lauding Aldridge for his amazing scoring consistency he follows up his season-high performance (39) on Monday night by tying his season-low (13) on Wednesday night. Pretty solid jinx on that one. Aldridge did look ill afterwards, with the empty eyes that come with being drained and wanting to hit the sack as soon as possible.
- The winner of the Portland Trail Blazers' blogging contest -- the man who wrote about his irritable bowel syndrome -- does not live in the Portland area so he was unable to attend on Wednesday. Here's the link to the piece that won second prize by Timothy Lu. It includes a reference to Luke Babbitt as Chalupa Man, so that's what's up. Lu was granted the grand prize media credential in place of the out-of-stater, and seemed to enjoy himself thoroughly.
- If, for some reason, you were thinking of investing in an Armon Johnson jersey, don't do it.
- Great observation from KGW's Katherine Cook: "No one's in the Block Party tonight! Think maybe Monday's goaltending call scared them away.." The block party is a group ticket section where fans keep track of Portland's block shot tally and are regularly shown on the jumbotron.
- Jason Quick of The Oregonian reports that Blazers trainer Jay Jensen will be in Orlando, serving as the trainer for the Western Conference All-Star team. If he's lucky, Magic forward Hedo Turkoglu will meet him at the airport playing some Turkish music.
- That was a three year old call back. Props if you remember the good old days of "Jay Jensen showed up at the airport wearing [blank] and listening to [blank] music" joke trains. Good times.
- The Blazers held military appreciation night on Wednesday, with video messages of thanks from the players displayed on the jumbotron and a moment where all military personnel were called to stand to receive an ovation from the rest of the crowd. Members of the team purchased tickets for military members and their families.
- Thanks to KXL radio for helping promote Blazersedge Night this week.
- A prominent member of the Blazers family (who wishes to remain anonymous) made a sizable donation to the event on Wednesday night, enough to send an entire class full of children. Please consider following that example and helping the cause.
Nate McMillan's Post-Game Comments
Opening Thoughts
It's just, really, the whole game, we started off basically scrapping the game plan from the start. We never defended them right from the start. That team was scoring pretty easily, 60 points in the first half, 30 both quarters. So the first unit, their pick and rolls, they pretty much got what they wanted. We've got to work harder defensively. And at the start of the game you establish yourself both offensively and defensively and we never did that.
Made a push in the third quarter
Now we're scrambling. It's almost like flipping a switch and for our guys we've got to play the sam way regardless of which unit is on the floor. We've got to have an offensive unit and a defensive unit and they've got to play both ways. I think what we're doing is, getting a team out there that at times we can't score and at times we need defense. You can't play that way. You've got to be able to play both ends of the floor.
Players ignored the game plan?
I thought they came out very aggressive, we weren't aggressive defensively, and they ran their offense hard. Both units. Their second unit scored 60+ points in this game. It was both units that were scoring. We basically went to a small unit for offense in the second half, was able to get ourselves back in the game, try to scramble and get scoring.
Let down after Monday?
We've got a game. That game, we've got to put behind us. We knew that Houston was playing good basketball. Shouldn't be. Shouldn't be a letdown. You've got to put it behind you and get yourselves ready before going out on the road.
Rebounding disparity
Rebounding to me is a hustle part of the game. That ball is free, anybody can go get it and we've got to go get it. I think sometimes we assume that someone else is going to get the board and we start to go the other way. We have to get everybody into the paint to help on the boards.
Biggest frustration trying to figure out this team
That's part of the challenge. To figure out the combinations of players. Motivating these guys. Getting them to play both ways and getting that right combination out there that can and will do that. We've just, we've played in spurts. You're basically trying to make the moves as the game goes.
Tinker more with lineups?
Tinkering? It was both units tonight. I think I said this before, somebody has to step out. I think all of our guys right now are doing some good things some nights and then some nights we're not. In order to look at something like that, you've got to have somebody who has stepped out and been consistent, so you've earned the right to make a move like that.
Other teams in NBA having similar struggles?
You hear some things about scoring is down, the number of games, but my focus has been on our guys and where we are. We just haven't found that rhythm as of yet.
Any changes to starting lineup?
Who are you guys trying to take out of the lineup?
Jamal Crawford has been playing well and point guard has been struggling
No, nothing.
How would you describe your fast breaks?
They've been bad. Tonight I had to smile at a couple of them because it was just... the fact that we're having numbers on the breaks and not converting. It's not good. I think we talked about it before the game, sometimes the guys who are handling the ball, I think one of the breaks tonight was our guards who had the ball and we're not converting. You've got numbers like that you have to convert.
Camby's playing time was tactical or health-related?
He wasn't feeling good. He wasn't moving well.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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Time to cash in and see what we can get for Babbitt while he still has value.
by BRoyInThe4th on Feb 9, 2012 2:02 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
What value?
At best, a team like Indiana may take a flier on him and absorb the remainder of his salary.
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6020006
I’d be fine with that, too, as I don’t see any use in having him around wasting a roster spot.
"I Am Mine"
AK hates humor more than he hates efficient post players with low usage numbers.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Feb 9, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I've got nothing against humor, man.
But the thing is it’s actually gotta be, y’know, humorous.
That’s key.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Feb 9, 2012 8:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i'm going to rec the previous babbit comment to show my support of humor.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Feb 9, 2012 8:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to rec your comment
to show my support for the support of humor
by Batumshakalaka on Feb 13, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
High horse? There's no high horse, partner.
Look, dude, I’m admittedly no better than anyone else. Buddy, we’re all losers in one way or another—including you, I, and everybody’s who here.
Nobody’s special.
Remember, too, that there are no winners in life. It’s just some people prolong the losing battle longer than others.
Don’t forget that, all right. It’s a valuable lesson; it’s the only lesson.
Oh, and whether it happens just a few minutes in (e.g., umbilical cord prolapse) or after a 100+ years of hard living (e.g., heart attack), we all suffer the same ending.
And it’s the only ending there is.
Am I being serious? Or am I just trying my hand at macabre humor? I dunno, you decide.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Feb 9, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think you are being philosophical and almost 100% correct....
as I intend to get out of this one alive…
Being a winner in life is how you perceive life.
It is true no one can go through life without the lessens in life being harsh, but those that survives those adversities are winners in my book.
I have had my share of adversities, and I would not have classified myself in the lucky group, until I had a heart attack and survived, got cancer, and now cancer free, had death pneumonia at the age of 70 and survived. Of course my life wasn’t saved, only death was postponed, but to me that is being a winner because I get to enjoy my loving wife, watch my youngest granddaughter grow, I get to root for my Blazers, and enjoy life as I know it.
True you can’t argue with the way you perceive life, that is pessimistically true, but you can’t deny my perspective on life, even if it is optimistically true.
Therefore you should perceive life as you see it, but don’t expect everybody else to take it as a fact and join you
hg
by BBK on Feb 9, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
it's humorous to me that he got a serious response out of you
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Humor?
When it comes to humor, I usually work blue.
Can’t do that here, though.
Guess I’ll have to go with the color black instead.
Join me in the gallows, will you? There’s plenty of rope.
"I Am Mine"
It didn't seem like a joke. Babbitt = wasted roster spot.
That’s kinda funny, but not in a ha ha way but rather more like mwahahahahahah (sob sob sob) sort of way…
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
sometimes it's hard to tell what's serious and what's tongue-in-cheek
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
I'm guity of that sometimes.
I occasionally mix dark, sardonic humor delivered in a wry writing style, which can be hard for some to follow. At times, I’ve even got difficulty understanding my own erratic, off-kilter self. It ain’t an easy read, no sir.
When’s the seriousness end and the craziness begin? No idea … sigh … no idea at all. A blurry line is all I see. So, so blurry.
"I Am Mine"
haha
it’s hard too because there are crazy proposals presented in all seriousness often on this site, so when you see a “Babbitt has value” comment, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they are being sincere.
That just depends on the poster
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
"That just depends on the poster"
That’s very true. The problem is it’s impossible to get a good read on each individual poster, especially the newer ones or those who don’t post all that often.
"I Am Mine"
"It didn't seem like a joke. Babbitt = wasted roster spot."
Truth be told, BRoyInThe4th’s comment was very poorly delivered if he meant it to be a joke.
Not enough oomph on that if he was going for the ha-ha brand of humor. Needed more kick to it.
But what do I know? I’m supposedly some humorless stiff. Instead of arteries and veins carrying blood, I’ve got wires flowing with electricity in me. I’m an automaton.
Perhaps it’s time for me to power down, eh.
"I Am Mine"
broy in the 4th's comment was perfect.
perfect length, perfect timing as the first post.
stop digging your hole deeper.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
"stop digging your hole deeper."
If it’s deep enough, then there might just be room for two.
Oh, and if I’m the one doing the digging, then watch out. That means I’ve got the shovel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXROGL0SaJ8
"I Am Mine"
Many, me included, makes jokes and laugh when bad things happen
Whether the Babbitt comment was meant as a joke or painfully true, does not say what was on the aurthors mind.
The joke Oden made, when he said he was not a basketball player, he tried it but his body wouldn’t let him was a joke coming from pain
hg
by BBK on Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
I like this trade better
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6020318
I like this trade cause it gets nic in the starting lineup where he belongs and it gets a center of the future that will get to set is value as a restricted free agent this summer, sadly you have to take a horrible contract to get Washington to make the trade, but playing Lewis off the bench for 2 years and then saying bye bye to get Matthews, Batum, Aldridge and McGee as your starting 4 is completely worth it! Then all you have to do is get duron Williams here this summer and you have a team that can compete with any team in the west!
by blazefanin97123 on Feb 9, 2012 11:52 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
that chalupa effect
It’s hard to put a price tag on that.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
by Vorlauf on Feb 9, 2012 6:19 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
intangibles!
though I would consider trading Babbitt for a burrito supreme.
Man what have Portland gets out of the draft last 4 or 5 years? Just nothing.. man after all those millions spent on buying picks, it’s not paying off.
"No, nothing."
Really? You’re not gonna try anything? I understand these are the players you gotta roll with, but changes can be made especially if they can’t put more than a couple of wins together at a time.
I’d really like to know Portland’s plans for all these guys. You have LA, Mathews, Thomas(assuming he doesn’t retire) and the row underwhelming bench players returning. There’s not a single guy that really deserves to come back. I’d say Camby but he’s way too old.
Are they gonna resign some, trade or let them all walk?
Wasn't that reply by Nate McMillan in response to the question about potential starting lineup changes?
If so, there really isn’t much he can do in that regard. Starting Jamal over Felton and/or Nicolas over Wesley won’t fix anything, as this roster doesn’t have the horses needed for battle come playoff time. Regardless of who starts, Portland can’t win the war.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Feb 9, 2012 6:11 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
You are correct.
On all counts I am afraid.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
It's not that I don't agree with you
It’s the hopeless response of “no, nothing” from Nate that irritates me. He can trying mashing it up, will the results be different? Maybe not, but at least you tried.
IMO, trading off everything you have and getting a whole new group is
Trading one set of problems with another, for instance LMA played good with Dre, not so good with Ray, but is that because Ray is bad or because Ray and LaMarcus hasn’t had the time to get a good chemistry. Getting a new Ray Ray, will start the problem over, even if it was Steve Nash. We do need dependable mid range and long range shooters that shows up for every game, but good luck with that one unless you can find another BRoy hanging around. So do we find out how to train our own shooters to be more consistent or do we find another inconsistent player and make him consistent, because at this stage we will not get a great shooter in every game to cure our woes.
hg
by BBK on Feb 9, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Cant believe this quote.....
That’s part of the challenge. To figure out the combinations of players. Motivating these guys. Getting them to play both ways
Sad to see a coach say that on any team. MOTIVATION???…..how about the millions of dollars you are making to play a game people play for free on their spare time. Its sad and distugsting!
They miss Patty Mills waving his towel on the sideline. ;)
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Pendergraph's pre-game huddle antics are needed!
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
Dan Quayle said...
…" You need to add an ’e’".
Sacramentoes.
Lol.
" one thing I hate more than a L*ker, is TWO L*kers.... "
1992 called:
It wants its joke back.
At least the music from then is still epic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqWLGjeMQ84
"I Am Mine"
1992 called again
it wants it’s “1992 called” joke back.
by ZenGarden on Feb 9, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Though, I should add how some music today is still that ... music.
“The Gravedigger’s Song” by Mark Lanegan
That should be the Portland Trail Blazers’ theme this season, because it’s already dead and buried.
"I Am Mine"
Nate needs to wake up.
So 2 of your starters are sick. Your point guard has a bad foot. Batum has a bad knee. The entire team has no energy and you are down by 14 at the half being beaten by the other teams second string. You come out and you ride your starters and crack the whip to get back in the game only to run out of steam and fold. Which of course makes the loss even more demoralizing to the starting unit. Does that sound about right? Huh Nate? That is what we are seeing.
Nate pushed both Aldridge and Wallace to 40 mins and played Craig 4:36. He also had his entire bench sitting there busting at the seams to get in the game and explode all over the Rock-etts. What do you think a couple E Will runaway dunks would have done to the crowd? Maybe a couple Chris Johnson Blocks? Do ya think Nolan smith would have had a hand in Lee or Budingers face while they were playing catch and shoot from the 3 point line? Another missed opportunity for the 2nd’s to get some valuable playing time. Sorry but i’ve run out of patience for Nate McMillan. He better get it together quick.
I hate to say it
but the Rockets played very well and the deep Blazers bench wouldn’t have been able to do a damn thing about it. The only reason to put the rookies in would be if you simply decided to concede and eat a loss.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
by Vorlauf on Feb 9, 2012 8:14 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
hate to say it
But you continue to make excuses. Lack of energy dug the hole. Energy lead to a comeback. When the energy quit so did the comeback. Their seconds would not beat our seconds in a complete game. Bank it!
Actually if you check bench stats over the last 3 games
Houston’s is outplaying ours.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/12/7/pts/4-1
Maybe I am misunderstanding but I thought you were talking about the deep bench by mentioning the likes of CJ and E Will. Those guys would have got chewed up and spit back out last night. And who cares about seconds playing a complete game? It would never happen.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
"Their seconds would not beat our seconds in a complete game."
Houston’s second unit is far more talented and balanced than Portland’s bench.
"I Am Mine"
You think their seconds would beat ours?
Thomas, Smith, Batum, Crawford,Smith. Have more talent and would beat any combination of 2nd’s McHale can come up with any day. It’s too bad i can’t check my theory.
their bench beat our starters
and completely destroyed our bench. At some point the “on paper” stuff gets thrown away and the results speak clearly for themselves. I would say their bench beats ours on paper too though.
more bench time
Actually this is where Nate is flawed in his coaching. He is a game to game player. He will use whatever player he believes for however long he thinks he needs to win that game. He won’t use the bench more in back to back situations, even when he knows several of his players are injured/sick (atleast camby got rest but he usually doesn’t play that many minutes anyways). Someone already wrote an article about this I believe, Nate coaches game to game where as popavich will play his bench more to develop player, get his starters rest so come playoff time when it matters his team is healthy, practiced and ready…. Lose a battle to win the war! And it seems Nate is having a hard time motivating his players… Can someone please put Nate and Monty Williams in the NBA trade machine and see how that trade works out? :)
by blazefanin97123 on Feb 9, 2012 11:43 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Slightly different situation
3 aging stars, already have rings so no pressure, and not afraid of starting off in 8th seed.
Our players are still/have been relatively young, and have little experience in the playoffs or even winning in general. Simply put, we need regular season wins a lot more than they do.
by Batumshakalaka on Feb 13, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
Our small line-up put us back in the game not the starters
And the bench did not play so i don’t really know where you get “their bench destroyed our bench”???
Camby was sick, Felton went quiet after 7 early points, Wes was a non-factor again. LMA could not hit a shot.
It was Thomas, Wallace , Batum, and crawford that put us back in it. But we could not get a rebound.
Last night's break down
The Rockets bench outscored both our starters AND our bench.
“McHale was able to rest his starters because his bench just flat-out brought it to the Rose Garden, scoring 66 points to the starters’ 37. Compare that to the Blazers, who got 59 points from the starters, 37 from the bench.”
Source: http://www.oregonlive.com/nba/index.ssf/2012/02/blazers-rockets_kevin_mchales.html
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
As it turned out that may not have been a bad idea
For no other reason then to show faith in the rookies and show the starters if they don’t want to play we have others that will and although the haven’t the experience yet they can do as good as the starting group is.(still lose) regardless of who is playing.
hg
by BBK on Feb 9, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
little talent to work with
telfair, jack, sergio, petteri, bayless, patty, armon, and nolan
i want nate gone, but there’s not much to develop with the guys in that group. they all had some glaring flaw that prevented them from becoming better players.
PHILLY!
Also, it’s not like Russell Westbrook, Jrue Holliday, Rajon Rondo, Tony Parker, Kyle Lowry, Brandon Jennings, and all those guys just jumped into the league fully formed. Even Derrick Rose had to improve his passing and foul drawing. They had some glaring weaknesses, but due to being given playing time and a set role, they were able to adjust their game to either solve those weaknesses or minimize them. Is their a single quality point guard in the league that wasn’t at least getting solid backup minutes halfway through his rookie year? The short leash is a problem.
i keep dancing on my own.
probably a combination
bad drafting and player development. Good news is we’re solid at turning out Chinese Basketball League super stars!
Our only drafted pg who's considered a star anywhere in the world
Happens to be playing in china.
by Batumshakalaka on Feb 13, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Read through Nate's comments and imagine that he's giving those in a interview for his job...
How impressed would you be? Can’t figure the team out. Doesn’t know how to motiviate them. They won’t use the game plan he draws out. He’s saying he has no idea what to do with this team. Would YOU hire him at this point? More importantly, would you FIRE him at this point????
Yes, because of his extended resume,
which includes being an assistant on the Olympic, and no because this team is clearly deficient in play making and shooting, the areas that kill them when their defense is making runs.
Nate is a top 10 coach in my opinion. I wouldn’t extend his responsibilities into that of a GM’s though.
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
The defensive assistant for a team that allowed 108 points in the 40 minute final to Spain with a team containing LeBron, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard and Dwyane Wade? Some resume line that is.
i keep dancing on my own.
by atomiccafe on Feb 9, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Right on!
The Olympic team defensive coach thing is way over rated.
Nah. I don't care who is your starting five,
the Brothers Gasol are murder. Together, on a team that is gelling, run efficiently at point, and hot from outside, any team of stars is going to have trouble keeping them fully bottled up.
Spain would beat a lot of NBA teams.
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Extrapolated to a 48 minute game
That’s 129 points, and sure, Spain would beat a lot of NBA teams, but we’re not talking about an NBA team, we’re talking about the all-NBA team, basically. We’re talking about a team that started two absolutely elite defenders by any metric (Lebron, Dwight), and two more excellent defenders (Kidd/Kobe). A team with arguably only one below average (by NBA standards) defender who played more than a minute in that game (Melo).
It really was just not a good defensive performance by any standard.
"which includes being an assistant on the Olympic"
You just brought a smile to P.J. Carlesimo’s face.
"I Am Mine"
Yeah. It, along with winning in the Big East,
aren’t enough. Nate has gottin’ effective results in the NBA given the overall talent of his teams though IMO. PJ not so much.
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Which one had three consecutive one-and-done playoff appearances coaching the Blazers?
Trick question, for the answer is both of them.
At least P.J. Carlesimo has three NBA championship rings, even if it was as an assistant coach.
Y’know, perhaps some men are just meant to be assistants. From the looks of it, Nate might be one of those guys.
"I Am Mine"
I hope he gets a chance to prove it either way.
‘Till then, he has pretty solid reasons for remaining defeated in the first round as Blazer head coach: his teams weren’t really that good and the teams that beat them, in every case, were hot and went deep into the playoffs.
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
They lost in 7 games to the eventual champs after their best player ended his career with a broken foot
point stands, stop arguing semantics.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
"stop arguing semantics."
Nope.
In 2009, Houston didn’t go deep into the playoffs.
The end.
"I Am Mine"
McMillan’s best recent rotation solution had been to bring in Batum early for Matthews. All parts being healthy, that’s the way to go. It gets the most out of the Batum/Wallace combination without overly front-loading it, it balances the skillsets of Felton, Matthews and Crawford, and it keeps the ball in the hands of Aldridge and Wallace early. That move, plus hiding Felton on the bench during crunch time, are the two adjustments that make sense after Wednesday night’s game, which saw Batum sit for longer early and saw Felton once again being a liability on both ends late. If this team is going to go down, it should go down with Batum playing bigger minutes every night and Felton watching when the game is on the line.
one idea is to start nic in place of gerald, while ncorporating elliot into the mix off the bench.
PHILLY!
I've been saying this for weeks.
Our starters can’t shoot from outside. Nic could help. Keep Gerald fresh for stretch minutes in the 4th.
It all makes sense. Gerald would likely feel “disrespected” and pout though. I love the dude, but I’m pretty sure that’s the reality of the situation.
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 8:10 AM PST up reply actions
and nic would actually see the ball
as LA and felton actually pass to nic unlike jamal and craig smith
PHILLY!
Jamal and Craig are good at what they do.
Making passes isn’t usually part of that equation.;)
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
If our rotation players can't get the job done
Not one of the back court players are helping with scoring consistently. then why not give EW some burn. It may not do any good other then speeding up his learning curve, but that may help a little for deciding who stays and who goes next year.
But then that would say that I am giving up on the season and planning for next year, I am getting close to being there if we don’t find some consistency.
hg
by BBK on Feb 9, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
A team with one, inconsistent point guard,
is going to play like a team with one, inconsistent point guard.
There is nothing Nate can do to help. It’s still too early to get desperate and start giving vet minutes to Nolan and Elliot too, not that either has shown much ability to do more than get their own shot.
Crawford is trying to play a team game though. That’s how it looks to me.
Basically, this roster was built around the optimism that Felton and Crawford could give you quality at PG, and that has simply not been true in pretty much every category one could ascribe to a player whose duty it is to dish dimes and hit shots consistently.
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 8:08 AM PST reply actions
Well said.
You can’t shine a turd and it seems like that is what Nate is really being judged on. His ability to shine turds…
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
So let Nate pressure the brass for a Point guard.
You do remember him saying Felton was his kind of Point Guard right?
Based on his performance with NYK last year
he looked like he could be our kind of PG too! Unfortunately he hasn’t performed at those levels since.
I agree at this point Nate should be having conversations with the FO about some movement at the 1 spot.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
"Based on his performance with NYK last year"
Based on his performance with Denver last year, he looked like trash—especially in the playoffs against OKC.
"I Am Mine"
Batum needs more minutes and more plays
I don’t really care about this season as we don’t have enough talent to compete for a top position. But the amount of time and attention Batum is getting is becoming worrisome. The dude needs to be treated as a talent to mature.
LaMarcus Aldridge has had many holes in his game, but got the time to develop and become a complete player. Nick is not being given enough time to work out his game and become a key second to LMA.
This is not the total answer to what is going on this year (really poor play from the guards), but I would like to see Batum get at least 32 minutes a game- preferably as the starting small forward.
I know Wallace brings energy and hustle to the game, but i would rather move him and another player to free up time for Batum and get somebody back that complements Aldridge and Batum.
think back to the play call at end of regulation against OKC
maybe, just maybe, some players work best when the call is not for them.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
Batum got the ball to the rim, and had only a PG to beat.
That PG happened to be Westbrook and made an incredible play to snuff him. Batum should have finished stronger and given himself a chance to draw a foul. Still, I like that play so much better than an off-balance 20-footer, which often seems to be the alternative.
it was a good play
people have been screaming for Nic to finish stronger and be more aggressive for years though. Still wouldn’t mind seeing him back into the starting line-up. We need to shake things up.
That's why you let him play more and work out his game
Did Aldridge all the sudden become more aggressive? No, he learned from his mistakes and worked on his game. But the bottom line was he knew he wasn’t going to be jerked around going from starter to bench.
If Nick gets that same play again, I guarantee he goes strong and dunks.
he got the play called for him, he almost came through.
the last time he got that play, he tripped and bruised his knee.
i just wanted to point out that nate calls plays for batum.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
His point still stands
LMA wasn’t clutch until recently either. You know what changed? Now he got more clutch shots and learned from it. Anyone remember Batum’s alley oop to beat the Spurs? Ok, silly question, but he said afterward that it was his first game winner ever. Sounds to me like he has quite a bit of development left on that route. The softness is the same, really.
by Batumshakalaka on Feb 13, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
What I find funny is that...
Nate is so gunshy to let Nic start, and everyone thinks he should start to see what he can do.
Does anyone even remember his rookie season when he started the entire season in place of an injured Martell Webster?
He has proven he can start? I’m surprised his rookie season hasn’t been brought up this season.
by BlazerFan007 on Feb 9, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
If only Dave could write a couple paragraphs on why having Batum start doesn't really solve the team's problems...
dinasour type of guys choir boys
This team needs a closer...
This team misses Brandon badly down the stretch in close games and the lack of a closer is the primary reason for the Blazers’ poor record in close games.
LA should be it, but isn’t.
Gerald is an energy guy, not a shot creator.
Jamal wants to be the closer, but converts under pressure at a 20% clip, thus all of his losing seasons early in his career.
Wesley doesn’t have the ability to create his own shot.
Nic is not aggressive enough.
IMO, one player on the roster who has the tools to be a closer is Eliot Williams.
We have seen his electrifying style when he is on the court, but he needs the minutes to energize the team in the short term and develop his tools so that he can be the closer down the road.
I think that Eliot will be able to slide into the combo guard role and grab some of Jamal’s minutes this season and will take over Crawford’s role next year as he develops his game and grows into the role as the closer for the Blazers.
Elliot looks to have some solid skills and great athletic ability but
he’s really only strutted his stuff in garbage time. I’m all for giving him minutes, but it still comes back to PG play and a lack of rebounding when it counts. In Nate’s sets I doubt Elliot would be able to stand in the corner and hit threes at a better clip than Wesley, and Wes and Nic are actually getting better at putting the ball on the floor when a lane opens on the weak side. In reality, Elliot would need to produce on the strong side with LMA for the Blazers to have use for him in their offensive sets. I’d love to see if the dude can fun pick-and-rolls but the subtleties of becoming an excellent P&R perimeter play in the NBA are much more difficult to gain experience in than, say, 1-on-1 step back jumper. We already have a chucker trying to be a play maker on the squad (Jamal), I fear Nolan and Elliot would simply end up being lesser versions of the same thing.
No. We need a legit backup point. That’s been true for a while though. Patty would be an upgrade, actually, so it’s not an impossibility to upgrade this season.
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
LMA isn't a closer?
3/3 difficult jumpers vs Dirk’s 1/4 or so disagree. The problem is the rest of the team has to continue to execute the basics. One example would be… oh, off the top of my head… GIVING LMA THE BALL.
We have the Jason Terry type to be his sidekick late in games, we just don’t have the Kidd type to keep everyone going smoothly.
by Batumshakalaka on Feb 13, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
This team has no good point guard. Very obvious.
I questioned the signing of Felton. Crawford’s ability to run the point stems from his overall basketball IQ and all around game. But let’s face it – he’s not a starting point guard for a playoff contender. With that said- it’s pretty obvious Felton’s not the answer for Portland at the #1 spot when Jamal’s name comes up as the one to supplant him.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Yeah. The team is better this season with Andre.
No question.
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 9, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
no doubt about it
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
completely agree
team is just a respectable front court right now dragging along a woeful back court. Dre would help tons.
I like Nate
His ability to “shine the turd” has been pretty evident over the past few injury addled seasons and I have to thank him for that -
BUT -
All of our current problems are coaching problems.
Team motivation – coaching
Team execution – coaching
Finishing fast breaks – coaching
Proper utilization of talent – coaching
Consistent defense, rebounding, boxing out – coaching
In most of the recent interviews with Nate he seems to be calling out his players but he is really throwing them under the bus. He needs to take some (all) of the responsibility and take a serious look at his methodology because something about it is simply not working.
we can still win........
ITs
the same thing year in year out. The one thing Nate does well is get his players to Play hard. That is it. He X and O are questionable, he doesn’t create consistent roles for players or use the bench and he doesnt develop young players and finally he doesnt change quickly enough. Miller played back up to Blake….again Miller played back up Blake. Everyone but him saw who was better. It took him forever to get it. THis is happening on a micro and macro level for this team. Nates inability to adapt in a timely manner. But they hustle and play hard.
OT - Why have the Recent FanPOSTS disappeared in my sidebar? I can't get them back.
I changed the number of Fanposts in my profile but that didn’t help. Anyone know how to make them reappear? (The Recommended Fanposts and all the Fanshots are still showing up.)
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 9, 2012 10:37 AM PST reply actions
Thanks, good to know. I thought it was just me.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 9, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
It's now started working for some unknown reason
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 9, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
The Draft has killed the Blazers
KP getting cute on draft day in years past has led to the current roster looking as shallow as ever. It’s pretty sad that the bench only goes two deep. No wonder the team collapses in the fourth, they’re exhausted. It’s time for Paul Allen to get serious about the franchise and hire a Real GM to start molding a team into his vision or it’s time for PA to sell the team. Us Blazer fans are helpless watching this mess. Time for change.
FIRE THE CHEER LEADERS
these guys look like a bunch of lazy goof balls.
What does this mean?
Flopping Crawford in for Matthews at the start diminishes the effectiveness of whichever guard doesn’t get the early touches.
Isn’t this the same as:
Playing Jamal Crawford and Felton together doesn’t make much sense, given how teams completely ignore Felton when he doesn’t have the ball in his hands?

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