Portland Trail Blazers forward LaMarcus Aldridge is called for a goaltending violation on a critical fourth quarter possession when he appeared to block a runner by Oklahoma City Thunder forward Kevin Durant. The Thunder went on to win in overtime, 111-107.
Here's video replays from both the Portland and Oklahoma City broadcasts.
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OMG I just jizzed in my France
OMGrandpa
Worst late game goal tending call in history...
…from a ref way out of position to make the call.
No surprise though after all it was Durant!
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
First law of officiating: if you're not sure, swallow your whistle
Really, that’s pathetic officiating.
I still believe in Greg Oden. The Blazers' medical staff? Not so much.
I'd change my handle to "bringback'09," but I'm too lazy.
You Can't Make That Call Unless Its Obvious
That was the signing example of what should be a no-call.
At least they didn’t give him an and One to boot.
Yep, refs should swallow the whistle late in games.
That’s the #1 unwritten rule, which Scott Foster broke.
"I Am Mine"
Durant smiles at 0:41
Realizing he just got away with murder. CLEAN BLOCK and the commentators don’t have the guts to say it how it is. Disgusting.
yeah they showed the replay and Durant looks and nods to someone.
Looks like he was nodding, yes it was a block. But, it ended up in the officials hands and nobody wants that. Make your free throws and we’re not in that position (probably).
It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.
by SGT Lenny on Feb 6, 2012 10:13 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Its heartbreaking
To watch LMA play his heart out all game. One of his best games of the season, give it his all. Then block one of the best offensive players in the game, only for a Ref to take that all away and make it meaningless.
That ref should be fired. Who makes a call like that from where he is at?
by foxtrotportland on Feb 6, 2012 10:07 PM PST reply actions
I know of one guy who does that. (now)
There should be a game put on our W column, but that won’t happen.
It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.
by SGT Lenny on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The F-I-X was in
Foster was at half court, on the other side of the rim, and made the call well after the play. I’m done with this stuff.
No Wonder They Have Such A Great Road Record
How do we get the refs to do that to us?
Be league darlings
If they had Roy, Oden, Aldridge together like OKC has had Durant & Westbrook Portland would get those kinds of calls on the road too.
It did look like LMA might of fouled him with the other arm. Still I hate refs that
seem to always bail out blazer opponents but don’t ever return the favor.
I'm typing this here because I became jealous of everyone else with signatures in their posts.
I dunno...
But you’ve gotta admire that guy’s courage.
by DefenderOfPants on Feb 6, 2012 10:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Refs should be fined
For horrible calls.. the NBA holds players accountable why not refs?
by CaptainWhiskey on Feb 6, 2012 10:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
KD knew it too...!
OKCs commentators fail.
by Hoi on Feb 6, 2012 10:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Funny part is that fan base will use this as their definition of Goaltending.
No i’m not serious about the entire fan base, but i’m sure a few ignorants will.
Tried to go to bed...
but I’m so irritated by that call that I had to get out of bed and complain. Easily the most frustrating loss of the season because Portland scratched and clawed and fought their way back into a position to win that game and a ref, not the Thunder, took it away from them.
I'm still up as well.
I won’t be able to sleep for awhile.
The NBA
Where garbage calls happens.
by CaptainWhiskey on Feb 6, 2012 10:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The ref should have been allowed to call that and review it. Basically any call but a foul should be reviewable in the final
2-3 minutes. How can you replay who the ball was off of but not a goaltending call.
The refs on the baseline didn’t even call anything either.
i agree with this 100%
i absolutely hate when there’s an obviously blown call that can (or in this case absoutely DOES) change the outcome of the game but its deemed “unreviewable”. WHY is it unreviewable? i understand they dont want to review every single call out there, but really?
Watch as the ref puts his head down as he walks away after making (and anggrandizing might I add) the call. Wow.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Agreed
the ref’s emotional response is especially aggravating.
crappy call all the way around....
Its too bad we couldnt secure the basketball on all the previous bricks.
I do agree that the commentators fail to even acknowledge that it may have been a clean block. Atleast Mike and Mike would have acknowledge that the Blazers may have gotten a generous call.
BRoy #7
by hohowan on Feb 6, 2012 10:59 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Well I know everyone already says it was a goaltend, but I just rewatched it frame by frame on my HD recording.
It was in fact a goaltend. The reason I know it is a goaltend is because the ball is still rotating off of Durant’s fingers. The ball’s rotation stops as Aldridge’s hand blocks it. If the ball hit the glass first then the rotation of the ball would have stopped just before Aldridge blocked the shot.
So you are further validating that it wasn't a goaltend.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
by dpnim on Feb 6, 2012 11:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This also validates that it really wasn't a horrible call
It wasn’t a floater, it was a lay-up off the glass. It was far too close for a ref to see if it hit the glass or not on the way up. The superstar will always get the call there. There’s been far worse calls than to get mad about that.
by Batumshakalaka on Feb 6, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
the ref was too far away to make that call
even if he managed to somehow see the rotation of the ball from half court
lol thats funny
becuase every sports analysis in america on espn has said that was a goaltend. You can clearly see on the replay it did not hit the back board first
glass doesn't matter
glass doesn’t matter if the shot is blocked below the rim. sure looked like it was. glass didn’t matter. bad call. hurt worse that they should have made up for it on the next play but I guess Daequan Cook gets more respect than our frenchman.
My opinion...
…it sure looked to me like Aldridge blocked the shot off the backboard. He DID not pin it against the glass, he knocked it against the glass…a good block. Horrible call.
That being said? All it did was tie the game. The Blazers still lost it.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
Yeah, Portland should never let Durant shoot that 3 in the corner when up 6. Terrible defense there.
A whole lot of plays cost them the game. You have to think if Portland had Felton or a nice rebounding night they win this by 20.
The one silver lining:
Hearing Mike Rice broadcast the next game Scott Foster officiates for us. I expect him to be in classic form.
"Hey! If the moon were made of ribs, wouldja eat it? I know I would!"
scott foster should be fined.
or suspended… Nate needs to come out and say something and paul allen too. be more like cuban! i cant even believe that the guy called that. Aldridge out plays the “super star” and he acts like he is god after he gets bailed out by a ref. Just the blazers luck thanks stern your making sure the thunder dont lose to many games
durants quote after the game
“it was a good call i drove the lane saw aldridge was coming over so i put it off the board before he could hit it, so it was a good call” hmmmmm so im guessing they arnt showing replays in okc….
Bad call, but this was Portland's game to lose.
I know a lot of Portland fans will pin this loss on that goal-tending call (by the measure of this thread alone, maybe about 95% of Portland fans). However, we have to remember that bad calls are a part of the game. Some times they go your way, some times they don’t. Who is to say that a bad charge call in the 2nd quarter doesn’t change the course of events and ultimate outcome of the game the same way as a bad goal-tending call at the last second?
Regardless of the bad call at the last second that allowed the game to go into overtime, Portland had a half-dozen opportunities in the final 3 minutes not to even let it get to that point. Heck, they still had a half-dozen more in the 5 minutes of overtime. Are we really more frustrated with that bad call, or is it just vented anger about the fact that Oklahoma City rebounded better, shot better, had more points in the paint, and had more points on the fast break?
Point is, bad calls are as much a part of an NBA game as Xs and Os or a drop of sweat on the floor. The only difference is that you have some control over Xs and Os where you have no control over the other two. If you can’t beat a team beyond the shadow of doubt that lies in a a close goal-tending call, then you really haven’t done enough to earn the W anyway.
Hate this argument, so much. I'm sorry, but it's so desperate to be "logical" and "level-headed".
Fans have every right to be pissed off. What happened in the first 47 and 3/4th minutes happened, and there’s no changing that. Sure, we could’ve made a bunch of plays and been up 20, but so could have the Thunder. The facts are we were up by 2 in the closing seconds of a tough game and LaMarcus came up with a huge block that pretty much sealed the win but it was taken away due to a terrible call. A terrible call that’s unreviewable for no good reason. You can argue it’s part of the game, I retort with it shouldn’t be. Obviously you can’t review every single call thruout the entire game, but the team that comes up big in the clutch should win, period, if it’s that late in the game. It shouldn’t be taken by the refs.
I’m over the lose but I’m pissed off about the rules.
by Jpar on Feb 7, 2012 5:29 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Too Bad, So Sad
Of course fans have a right to be upset. Fans can choose to be upset about whatever they want. I’m not telling you not to be upset. What I’m saying is that it’s misguided to place the sole responsibility of this loss on one bad call, and that any anger directed toward such is misplaced.
Let me put it another way. Be honest with yourself. You’re really not mad about bad officiating, per se. You’re mad that bad officiating affected your team in a negative way. If the reverse had happened, where LMA actually had goal tended and the refs didn’t call it, would you (or any other Blazer fan for that matter) be upset about the bad officiating? No, of course not. Just like there’s no thread like this at Loud City, not to mention no thread whose main focus is to allege Foster is a cheating gambler. Fans really are never mad about bad officiating (and neither is Mark Cuban), they’re only mad about bad calls that they perceive as contributions to their team losing. That sort of hypocritical assessment is really pointless.
It was a good game where the Blazers played really well in some areas, but really poorly in others. It was the sum of Portland’s mistakes (e.g. failing to keep OKC of the offensive boards and poor shooting down the stretch) that sunk their ship, not bad officiating. The Thunder were simply the better team last night.
Bad calls always impact games. You can’t get away from it. You take the good with the bad and in the end, you hope it evens out. But go ahead Angry McAnger from Angerville. Get on with your angry self!
I'm being a hypocrite? You're the one still assuming I'm mad beacuse its a Blazers lose even tho I've already stated that isn't the reason.
“be honest with myself” lol. Stop trying to be a psychologist. Early in this season, Pacers vs Warriors. Tie game. George Hill makes a steal in the closing seconds and lays it up, Pacers win by 2. Problem with that? George Hill kicked the ball. Blatant kick ball violation. That irked me as much as this. The difference? I don’t have a care in the world about the Pacers or the Warriors. I’m not registered to the Pacers or Warriors (or any general basketball) forums. I’m not gonna go out of my way to complain about the refs. When it happens to my favorite team, I’m going to voice my opinion, mainly because I have an account on Blazersedge and it’s a relevant discussion here. My agenda in life isn’t to moan about referees every chance I get.
No, this lose wasn’t a sum of Portland’s mistakes. The sum of that was 103-101, Blazers lead with 10 seconds to go, Thunder with the ball. The lose is directly attributed to a clean block being called a goaltend when it shouldn’t be. Without that terrible call, we win (more then likely). What you’re saying is what coaches say to the players to try to improve their play. It has some truth to it – if the Blazers played better, we probably wouldn’tve been in a situation where the refs can decide the game. That doesn’t change the fact that we had a win robbed from us by the refs. One that was unreviewable for no good reason.
And stop with the childish insults – I’m not especially angry about the result of any NBA game, involving the Blazers or not. I’m not a very angry person, anger isn’t very constructive, but if I ever felt like raging about something, it wouldn’t be about something as meaningless to me personally as a game of NBA basketball or someones comment on www.blazersedge.com. Just because I have problems with the way the NBA handles certain situations or disagree with a comment and voice my opinion on it doesn’t make me an emotional raging basket case. If you had any desire to have a proper discussion you’d leave that crap out of it.
Too Bad, So Sad: The Sequel
“I’m being a hypocrite?”
A little, yeah.
“You’re the one still assuming I’m mad beacuse its a Blazers lose even tho I’ve already stated that isn’t the reason.”
Of course I assume you’re mad about the loss. You’re a Blazer fan aren’t you? Don’t you get upset when they lose? That’s only part of it though. I imagine you and others are particularly upset about this loss because you feel it could have been different with better officiating. You might be right but a lot of games might be different with better officiating. Even games Portland has won. What’s infinitely more important, mind you, is that they would definitely be different if the team that lost had played better.
“My agenda in life isn’t to moan about referees every chance I get.”
Yes, I’m well aware that you moan only when a bad call from a referee affects your team in a negative way. That’s my point.
By the way, the question still stands. If the situation were reversed, and a Portland win was aided by poor officiating at the end of the game, would you be making posts about how pissed off you were about the league rules? If the answer is yes, then show me. Prove me wrong. Show me a previous post where you showed similar contempt for a poor call that was made which helped Portland win a game. I’m not above concession.
“No, this lose wasn’t a sum of Portland’s mistakes.”
For the most part it was. Sure, non-player contributions always affect games wheither it’s a bad call from a ref, someone slipping on sweat that didn’t get mopped up, playing your second of a back-to-back, or home crowds distracting visiting players. At the end of the day (or game, for that matter), the players almost always have a weighted advantage over these other aspects.
Now, if you live in a fantasy world of basketball where games last only last 34 seconds, and your team starts with a 2 point lead, then yes, I would say the poor officiating had a disproportionate impact on this game. Even so, let’s take that last 34 seconds. Portland is ahead by 2. Durant misses, Portland fails to secure the rebound. Westbrook misses, Portland fails to secure the rebound. Durant misses again, and yet Portland fails to secure the rebound. Aldridge makes a good block on Durant, but it’s incorrectly called goaltending. Portland fails to score in 6 seconds. End result: Tie game (i.e., not a loss).
So even in this brief snapshot of the game, you have four key plays that Portland failed to make based solely on poor execution compared to one poor call by the ref. In this short instance, the bad call weighs 20% toward the outcome of a tie, whereas good old fashioned crappy play on the Blazers’ part weighs in 80%. Even at this, it didn’t result in a loss. It resulted in a tie. Portland had a full 5 minutes to outplay OKC. A full 5 minutes where the team shot 1-9. A full 5 minutes where they readily failed.
Mind you, for the whole of regulation (yes, in the NBA, they play a full 48 minutes), the Blazers lost the battle of the paint, being outscored and severely outrebounde. Moreover, although close, OKC shot better from the field, better from behind the arc, and better from athe charity stripe. Also, little argument can be made that the refs were calling this game in favor of OKC. The Thunder ended up with 10 more fouls called against them than the Blazers. If someone were to ask me before the game which I would take, 10 less fouls called against my team or one gimme goaltend, I’d take the 10 less fouls.
“Without that terrible call, we win (more then likely).”
Don’t forget that we also likely win if Portland grabs even just one of those 3 OKC misses that occured before the bad call. Another way we likely win is if Portland makes a basket in the final 6 seconds. Yet, another likely way we win is if Portland shoots better than 1-9 in the overtime period. Hmmm…. who’s to blame for this loss again? Oh right… the ref. I keep forgetting that!
“It has some truth to it – if the Blazers played better, we probably wouldn’tve been in a situation where the refs can decide the game.”
Now you got it!
“That doesn’t change the fact that we had a win robbed from us by the refs.”
Oops, you lost it again.
“And stop with the childish insults”
No.
“If you had any desire to have a proper discussion you’d leave that crap out of it.”
You mean crap like, “…it’s so desperate to be ‘logical’ and ‘level-headed’,” or “lol. Stop trying to be a psychologist.”? Oh wait, my mistake. I forgot that mocking someone’s logic as an act of desparation or likening it to the exploits of a mental health provider are just all a part of a proper discussion. My bad.
When in Rome, and all. Don’t care for it? Then don’t dish it out. Ethical reciprocity, my friend. Ethical reciprocity.
by JDX on Feb 8, 2012 3:37 AM PST up reply actions
Boy, you're dense
Not wasting much more time with the likes of you. You’re just reading over it and writing about your opinion on.. my opinion? I’ve already explained everything that needs explaining and given examples for things that need examples and yet you’re still doing this?
Like I said, there’s a time and a place to voice your opinion about things. If we won on a bad goaltend by Durant, I would probably mention it, but only as much as the people want to read about. That has nothing to do with how I feel and everything to do with where I’m posting and who I’m talking to.
What you’re suggesting I do is along the same lines of writing 20+ paragraphs about the “true feelings” of people who post their opinions about officiating on some random basketball message board. I’m not that stupid – it’s way out of place, not to mention a misguided assessment of people based off nothing but a few paragraphs & a full out generalization of everybody who has a favorite team.
You’re lucky this isnt www.EvaluateTheTrueMeaningOfThePostAboveYou.com. You’d get absolutely ripped to pieces
“You’re just reading over it and writing about your opinion on.. my opinion?”
In general, the way any argument proceeds is one person states their position (i.e. opinion), gives any supporting evidence (either subjective or objective) and allows the other to respond with a combination of their own evidence that either shows the fallacy of the first person’s position or supports their own. This shouldn’t have to be explained.
Oh, and as far as you not wanting to waste any more time with the likes of me, I seem to remember you being the one initiating the dialogue with a response to my thread. If you’re not prepared to defend your position, then just don’t bother in the first place. It really doesn’t matter to me. I wouldn’t have cared less if you chose not to respond at all.
“I’ve already explained everything that needs explaining and given examples for things that need examples and yet you’re still doing this?”
Not really. You described how you’re upset about the rules, not upset by the Blazers losing, that the only part of that game lending any weight towards a win or a loss was the last 15 seconds, and that the only reason you’re willing to post any of this is because you’re a Blazer fan. The only shred of evidence you gave to support any of this convoluted, mutually exclusive mess of an argument is that you witnessed a bad call during a Pacers/Warriors game earlier in the season. Not exactly a gold-star effort.
Mind you, the fact that fandom is ultimately the reason any of us are outraged by this call isn’t the crux of the issue. More just commentary on the double standards fans place on officials.
My main focus is that Foster did not lose this game for Portland. I’ve cited several key points about the entirety of the game itself, and even focused on the final 34 seconds, of which you believe half that is the only meaningful portion of the game – a ridiculous premise. Even at its greatest, Foster’s error only contributed 20% towards the eventual outcome in that final half minute. So even playing devil’s advocate and narrowing the game down to the specific instance to your liking, your argument still doesn’t hold up. You haven’t given any counter to these facts. But hey, look hard. I’m sure you can find a game between the Wizards and Hornets that has some bearing.
“If we won on a bad goaltend by Durant, I would probably mention it, but only as much as the people want to read about.”
Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn’t. Who really knows? Point is, you haven’t. Or at least you haven’t demonstrated it. Whether the reason for this is your inability to express a thought beyond what you think is an idea most readily received by your audience is irrelevant. In the end, it’s really not that big of a deal. I was just handing you a ladder for the hole you dug yourself. Instead you just kept on digging.
“What you’re suggesting I do is along the same lines of writing 20+ paragraphs about the "true feelings" of people who post their opinions about officiating on some random basketball message board.”
Nope. Never suggested that at all. Maybe this was a dream you had.
“You’re lucky this isnt ”http://www.EvaluateTheTrueMeaningOfThePostAboveYou.com" target="_blank">www.EvaluateTheTrueMeaningOfThePostAboveYou.com. You’d get absolutely ripped to pieces"
and
“Boy you’re dense”
and
“I’m not that stupid…”
Glad to see you’re keeping the crap out of it and trying to have a proper discussion.
Taking issue with what you perceive as ad hominem, then immediately making several pejorative comments yourself isn’t very becoming. Ipso facto, more hypocrisy. You see, I incorporate a lot of tongue in cheek comments in my posts and I really don’t mind if you do the same. It’s nothing personal. I’m sure you’re a fantastic guy (or gal). Just happens to be how I argue.
by JDX on Feb 9, 2012 7:37 AM PST up reply actions
‘Fan’, short for ‘fanatic.’
Fanatic [fuh-nat-ik]
-n
1. A person whose enthusiasm or zeal for something is extreme or beyond normal limits.
Be honest with yourself, isn’t this assessment a little pointless?
When I say 'my opinion,' what I mean is 'indisputable fact.'
You're probably right.
Still, fans should strive to be objective. Otherwise, we’re just mindless homers.
by JDX on Feb 8, 2012 3:40 AM PST up reply actions
Nope
Sports are the one area in my life where I intend to be completely mindless… :-)
And, just to highlight something, at no point in my article did I allege anything about Scott Foster and his cheating gambling ways…. :-P
by BlazersMakr on Feb 10, 2012 12:37 AM PST up reply actions
Wasn't you.
There was another fanpost making the allegation. Absurd.
if LMA had a layup blocked
and Durant got called for a goaltend instead…i’d know it, and the win would feel a little tainted and i’d know that yeah, the blazers got some BS coming their way in this one. but guess what. THATS NOT WHAT HAPPENED… hello…………….Who are you to tell other people how to feel?
You'll have to clarify.
So you’d know the win was tainted, and the Blazers would have BS coming to them? Not sure what all of that is supposed to mean. You’ll have to specify that a bit.
My point is you wouldn’t be on Blazersedge, crying about it. Complaining about how the league needs to change their rules because a team you follow, benefited from one of their flawed examples.
You would be reticent with the fact that they won with the help of a bad call, and you’d convince yourself that they made better plays over the course of the game to, perhaps, deserve the win. A stance I’m sure many Thunder fans are taking right now.
Like most situations, the truth always lies behind what’s immediately obvious. The Blazers got outplayed. OKC simply performed at a higher level, and earned the victory. Short of any evidence to support a conspiracy to commit malfeasance against Portland, or benevolence toward OKC, there is no other issue. Just one bad call amongst a game filled with failed opportunities by Portland and capitalizations by OKC.
You and others can feel however you want. However, if you choose to express your feelings and opinions, I can choose to demonstrate the illogic nature of them.
by JDX on Feb 8, 2012 3:55 AM PST up reply actions
The NBA is such a joke
You can review an out of bounds call inside of 2 mins…but not a questionable goaltending with the game on the line?
Bad call cost the game.
Lord knows OKC got plenty of baskets they earned fair and square. Somehow the Blazers managed to get ahead by 2, then OKC was given a bucket they shouldn’t have scored. Going into overtime was a huge deflation for Portland and the momentum swung one last time.
ignacio
Lamarcus should be proud of that play.
Refs missed the call, but that doesn’t matter. There are plenty of games left. And none of them count until the playoffs.
AND the Blazers have to be in the Thunder’s heads.
































