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Portland Trail Blazers Acting GM Chad Buchanan said that Blazers center Greg Oden would undergo an arthroscopic procedure on his left knee as soon as doctors could treat minor blood clots in his left ankle that were discovered before he underwent an arthroscopic procedure on his right knee last Friday.

Jason Quick of The Oregonian reports that the procedure has been tentatively scheduled for Feb. 13. That would be the tenth day after his right knee procedure. Buchanan said doctors had hoped that Oden would be able to undergo the second procedure in a 7-10 day window after the first one, if the ankle allowed.

The procedure on Oden's right knee was successful in removing loose articular cartilage. Buchanan said that Oden remains "out indefinitely" and admitted only that undergoing the procedures "doesn't increase the likelihood of him playing soon."

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Morning to you too....

at least this was somewhat expected after the other one?

Get Well Greg, definitely disappointing. His bandwagon must have 2-3 ppl left on it…

Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.

Follow my twitter @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.

by lanepete on Feb 5, 2012 9:39 AM PST reply actions  

I'm still on it, lots of seats available

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 5, 2012 9:54 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Oden isn't done yet!

These scopes are low impact…takes a couple of weeks to get back to were he was before the first. Bandwagon or not Greg will have an impact on the floor either for us or someone else….

by Odenrising on Feb 5, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure the scope is low impact...

but you need to read what is being worked on. A scope to clear up some meniscus is one thing. A scope to work on the articular cartilage is another. If there is a lesion on the articular cartilage then the onset of OA should not be far behind. A man of his size is finished playing basketball effectively if he has osteoarthritis. For those of you questioning my reasoning this is coming from 3 years of graduate research focusing primarily on articular cartilage lesions and their correlation w/ OA.

by deank.2002 on Feb 6, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm quite enjoying the Oden Bandwagon

just got myself a new jersey, matter of fact.
This wagon is plush interior, bangin system, plenty of space to spread out and the good lookin’ lady gets me nuts

by blazerblaze on Feb 5, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

still onboard

Walton and Bowie taught me all I need to know about the value of big men, and how they can return from injuries in their 20s and play productively into their 30s

Illgauskas, ditto

It sucks that Greg has only played 82 games for Portland—they obviously biffed that draft choice—as we’ll see again tonight. But what would suck even more would be to watch Oden dunking on LMA’s dome in the future

When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 6, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

"Oden" as a situation?

Oden as a situation reminds me of The Mayan Calendar. Everyone sits around with a theory as to what is going to happen, and what it all means, and the truth is? It might all be nothing. We basically just sit back and see what happens.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Feb 5, 2012 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

Unlike with the Mayan Calendar, my hope is that Oden doesn't amount to "nothing"

As far as the Mayan Calendar is concerned, my theory is that the high priest in charge of calculating it called it a day or a workweek after crunching out two full long cycles and said “that’s far enough into the future. Until I get my overtime paid, that’s all folks”. Nobody believing in that theory could yet explain to me why the world didn’t end already in ca. 1224 or 1618 when the last cycles ended. Or why Mayan civilization already went into decline around 900, and the Spanish also came in the middle of one to end things for good (or bad). And it’s better to predict the end of the world won’t come and then claim “see, I told you so” instead of the end happening and then saying “see, I told you so” when it won’t matter anyway. And there are so many different calendars and ways to count the passing of time around the world it’s not even funny, so I give as much weight to the Gregorian calendar as to any number of others.

As for the end Oden, who knows how to calculate that one… If 2007 was Anno Odeni, we might see the sad end of an era (as Dave pointed out before) in 2012, or the beginning of a new one.

by Norsktroll on Feb 5, 2012 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

the bigger point here is nobody can predict the future with the exception of where astronomical objects will be if their relationships are first calculated properly

but the end of the world? C’mon folks how long are we gonna believe in this stuff?

The only way somebody will predict the end of the world is if they find an asteroid that is undoubtedly going to collide with us with no way for us to stop it and we can say exactly when it will hit us and with absolute certainty how cataclysmic the event will be, but even then we are talking about predicting it out a matter of days, months or years, not centuries.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled Oden injury post.

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 5, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

well I was speaking of some kind of cataclysmic event or series of events that will happen before then

I’m pretty sure humans aren’t gonna be around to see the sun become a red giant and bake our planet, but I’m not saying that as a prediction or anything

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 5, 2012 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course not

I’m pretty sure humans aren’t gonna be around to see the sun become a red giant and bake our planet

The zombie apocalypse will see to that.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Feb 5, 2012 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Well...when I said "nothing"....

…I meant that often anything reported in association with Oden is taken as being the end of the world. When often….it’s really nothing.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Feb 5, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Plus....

…I said “Oden as a situation”…not Oden as a person or player.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Feb 5, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, if you believe Clint Eastwood

the ago of the earth is only at halftime

When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 6, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

nah, he was just talking about America, not the earth

America’s just a blip on the timeline of the planet, and humanity.

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 6, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Any sense in trying to trade him?

Do you think management has tried to shop him? Or better yet, do you think anyone would bother trading for him when he is unrestricted anyway? This whole situation is so frustrating. Its hard not to have some incredibly sour feelings toward this guy especially since these injuries are not his fault…but still, I can’t see any light at the end of the tunnel.

by abobo84 on Feb 5, 2012 10:27 AM PST reply actions  

there also has to be someone to trade for in the 1.5 million range that's worth more value to us than a potentially healthy Oden

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 5, 2012 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

We have gone on without him

True we need another 7 footer big body for rebounding and passing out which I wouldn’t mind at all being Greg, but in reality, the salary we are paying him is minimal and trading him now would be senseless, unless we got a monster deal for him, which isn’t likely to happen.
What have we got to lose by keeping him until we find out?

hg

by BBK on Feb 5, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Very true

At this point, hanging on to him is covered by spare change found in Paul Allen’s couch cushions.

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 5, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactamundo

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 5, 2012 1:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

^^ This

Why would people boo him? Has he wronged the team or fans? He’s not Darius Miles, folks.

"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion

by RedUniInLA on Feb 5, 2012 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I was at the game...when did they boo him? There was a boo session a few times for Rudy

which I thought was just stupid…but Greg? I know there was one booing session where my friend and I were like..why are they booing .??? We didn’t know. Assumed it was Rudy since they later booed when Rudy was on the floor.

Did they show Greg on the Jumbotron or something? Greg wasn’t even at the game was he?

by Natsthecat on Feb 5, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It was during the Super Bowl predictions

It was completely odd. I was already wondering why people were booing Rudy so much (I didn’t think he was worth it) and didn’t cheer Andre more when he first came in.

But then they had the super bowl predictions and I heard boos for Greg. It’s one thing if the guy was sitting around having given up and just looking to collect a paycheck. But the guy’s been trying to get back and here’s a newsflash: he can’t switch out his body for a new one. If you’re going to boo him should one boo Kevin Pritchard/Paul Allen for drafting him?

I have always loved the spirit and energy of PDX crowds (for all sports) but it was one of the first times I thought (some of) our crowd sounded ridiculous.

by onedawg on Feb 5, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Benefit of the doubt and say Oden's choice was booed?

and not Oden?

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Feb 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

I’d like to think that, but the reaction was immediate and his choice IIRC was the same as a few others who weren’t booed.

by onedawg on Feb 5, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah..come to think of it, there were some boos when his photo came up

forgot about that. I think Oden wasn’t even at the game though so no harm done.

by Natsthecat on Feb 5, 2012 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't understand people or fan's

I can see booing LeBron James, but booing a Man that is facing lifelong dreams crumpling, is so stupid and cold. Hating on anybody that is suffering from injury doesn’t make sense at all.

hg

by BBK on Feb 5, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Booing him...

…was absolutely STUPID. Disappointing that Portland fans would be so short sighted. Whatever you think about Oden, he doesn’t deserve to be boo’ed.

Blame in part “some” local media that have pre-emptively decided to raise the Oden is Done as a Blazer flag.

But mostly blame some short sighted fans.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Feb 5, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

if my life was "in shattered pieces" after "earning" 20+ million dollars

you got much bigger problems in your life than not being able to play ball

by meRoy on Feb 5, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know

I’m younger than Roy, and I’m about to the point that I can’t play ball anymore. I may not play quite as much as an NBA player, but I spend far more of my free time playing sports of some kind than anything else.

I may not make 20+ million, but I have plenty of food, and I’ve wasted plenty of money on expensive gadgets I don’t really need. Silly of me feeling bad about losing my body, after all some people can’t even get water on a daily basis!

by Batumshakalaka on Feb 5, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec

The lack of sympathy that people have for NBA players with physical ailments is appalling.

Imagine what it would be like if someone said “Oh, boo hoo, Mr. Microsoft had cancer. He’s still alive. I’ll go through chemo and radiation for $13 billion and a yacht.” While that statement is a lot colder as a matter of degree, it’s the same bad, insensitive, eat-the-rich mentality-induced “logic” (I use quotes, because it’s not logical, at all) that people use to justify insensitivity towards Greg Oden’s struggles.

It’s one thing to say you wanna cut our losses with Oden. It’s one thing to call him an injury bust. But to be so callous as to even think (let alone verbalize) that making a fortune is worth a young man’s health….that’s just wrong man.

I hope things work out for you, Batumshakalaka, and that you can keep doing the things you love for a long time!

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Feb 5, 2012 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Perspective

Life is bigger than basketball.

by meRoy on Feb 5, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Your comment made it sound like money is bigger than basketball, though

That might not be how you meant it, but it did sound that way. It’s a common refrain, and my angst overfloweth.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Feb 5, 2012 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't actually play high school basketball so I can't speak for them

But ask any serious football player in high school and they will tell you straight up that “Football is Life”. Kind of hard to explain, but most of the seniors at our school were broken down and crying when they finished their last, possibly ever, football game. Of course, it helps that unless you take state your last game will be a loss.

There’s a reason people talk about their old days playing sports and try to live vicariously through their children. I can’t explain why this is so important to some people, but it is.

by Batumshakalaka on Feb 6, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh,

And imagine going through that, then college, then making it to the pros and getting all that fame and acknowledgement, then maybe even becoming as good or better than all those players you idolized as a kid. Then, everything crashes down on you. Your body fails, you watch your team struggle and there’s nothing you can do to help, fans hate you because you are hurting your own team at that point, and you are even ridiculed on national TV for being useless.

Sounds to me like Oden is in his own personalized hell. I can’t see him just giving up everything that he takes pride in himself, simply because he made some money.

by Batumshakalaka on Feb 6, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you

Can’t get too angry, considering it’s my fault. Way too much playing without proper rest or icing will do it to anyone.

by Batumshakalaka on Feb 6, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I was there. didn't seem like they booed him .

They only had his image up on the jumbo for a few seconds. Must have been pretty limited. probably 2-3 guys centered around o- live reporters… I have seen him get cheered when the show him on the bench so far this year.

by Odenrising on Feb 5, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

fans booed and ridiculed Walton in 1974-75

and a writer said Bill had a “brain spur”

the more things change…Walton didn’t have a choice, he had to play in PDX in ’76-77

Greg will have a choice in July, and many “Blazer fans” will be happy to see him leave

not this one, Portland’s championship hopes will walk out the door when Oden does

mediocrity fever—catch it!

When reached 40+ years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 6, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Good now both knees with be stronger than before

you can decide what before means.

!!!o o!!!
OMG I just jizzed in my France
OMGrandpa

by sug on Feb 5, 2012 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

Anyway...the guy has some serious body issues.

He’s done well getting some good pay. I hope he’s invested his money well. I think he may be done..blood clots in his ankles???!!!!
That cannot be a sign of good things to come. Blood clots travel and become pulmonary emboli or cause heart attacks or strokes…the blood clots in ankles…and he’s 24…

by Natsthecat on Feb 5, 2012 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

has he had any platelet rich plasma therapy? I wonder if there is any correlation between that procedure and blood clots?

Still, I have to agree. The arthroscopic surgery doesn’t concern me that much at all, the blood clots are not good at all.

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 5, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

meaning BLOOD CLOTS...which is different than blood CLOTTING.

You do want blood to clot after surgery. If not, most likely you will die fairly soon. Blood CLOTS are a different story.

by Natsthecat on Feb 5, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh But the biggest fear of any surgery is blood clots.

I had to have blood thinning shots in my stomach, two a day for two weeks when I was reabilitating from knees surgery.

hg

by BBK on Feb 5, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought they found the blood clots before his surgery?

Unless you’re talking about his last one, which I thought was a year or so ago

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Mark Twain

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 5, 2012 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

They found a minor blood clot

in his left ankle when they were doing a scope on his right knee and decided to wait a week or 10 days to do the scope on his left knee depending on the clot.

hg

by BBK on Feb 5, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm still confused. Are you saying that the blood clot they just found is a result of the scope they did on his other knee on Friday?

Because I thought they found the clot the morning of the scope on his right knee, before they had done the scope of his right knee. My interpretation was that they had initially wanted to scope both knees the same day but after finding the clots they decided to only scope his right knee for now.

I know they have said they will do the left knee scope in ten days time from the right knee procedure, but have they said exactly what they are doing about those clots?

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 6, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Natsthecat,

thats exactly what I said about this. Blood clots in the ankles and he’s 24 ?!
Get a player exception for a roster spot already and another big. How many games has he already missed ?

How about that Nico last night !!

Go Blazers !!!!

just win baby !

by FrenchieFan on Feb 5, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

BBK, Greg didnt have a procedure/surgery on the leg that had the clot.

That’s the point. It’s still too much, after too much. 4+ years. The guy only has 2 knees.

just win baby !

by FrenchieFan on Feb 5, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes he did

he has had surgery on both his knees. the left knee, the one with the blood clot was the one that is being rehabbed.

hg

by BBK on Feb 5, 2012 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Not recently BBK,

before this procedure, how long had it been since Greg had knee surgery or a medical procedure done on the leg the clot was in ? The left one.

The most recent scope was on the right. Greg should be doing rehab on both knees apparently.

When is the last time Greg was in a cast ? Over a year ago ?
So Greg just started rehabbing? Now had a clot ?

That’s my point Blazer fans. Get an exeception already !

just win baby !

by FrenchieFan on Feb 6, 2012 7:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I am not arguing on getting an exemption though

I think that would be a good Idea.
BTW, I knew a woman that died from a blood clot after being in a cast for 9 month and got a blood clot as soon as she started exercising her knee, and it all came from the knee surgery she had.

Many people has died from blood clots after domestic violence and gang bangs. That is why injuries can be dangerous. That is why many patients are kept over night for observation after a small injury.
This is a small clot, IMO, from his surgery and will be taken care of since they already discovered it.

hg

by BBK on Feb 5, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Someday soon we'll all look back on the "Oden period" with a certain nostalgia...

at least, that’s where this appears to be heading. Either he’s medically unable to resume playing or he plays for someone else. One can always hope for a storybook ending….

by kuhnsmith on Feb 5, 2012 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

Best of luck to GO, but.....

I for one will be relieved when we finally admit failure & let him go. This schtick got old a long time ago.

by dulcamara on Feb 5, 2012 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

THIS

Anyone want to start a bet on who get’s dunked on that shatters the earth and rains fire from the sky?

by Batumshakalaka on Feb 5, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't think of a more deserving guy

than Kendrick Perkins. I know LeBron beat Greg to it but no reason why he shouldn’t get posterized again!

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 5, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I would choose Cousins...

…or Blake Griffin because I simply don’y really like either of them.

#7... GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Feb 5, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

AAARRRGGGHHH...

DON’T not don’y…

#7... GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Feb 5, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Get well soon big guy!

Just wait until Oden, LA , Batum, and Wallace play together. I got faith it is gonna happen…

by Odenrising on Feb 5, 2012 12:46 PM PST reply actions  

greg oden will never play another game portland trailblazers

I pray I am wrong but this kid can’t get a break. Oden is young but a man’s body can only take so much.

Can you imagine a healthy Roy And Oden………

Kenneth Lewis Moore

by lightskin350 on Feb 5, 2012 3:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

As long as there's a chance he'll play, you have to take it.

He’s too good not to. He’ll make too big of an impact.

"Brandon Roy has done this before."

by sabonis11 on Feb 5, 2012 5:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

And he only costs

a buck-fitty!

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 5, 2012 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

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