Media Row Report: Blazers 137, Spurs 97
The Portland Trail Blazers defeated the San Antonio Spurs, 137-97, at the Rose Garden on Tuesday night, closing the pre-All-Star break portion of the season with a record of 18-16.
Shortly before the game, Spurs coach Gregg Popovich told reporters that he was electing to rest starters Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. That news came on top of a team announcement from earlier in the week that Manu Ginobili and Tiago Splitter were both going to be out for roughly two weeks. In other words, the Spurs would be without four key performers, including all of their "Big 3."
Informed of the news, Blazers coach Nate McMillan smiled. He then said, "I hadn't heard that," before rocking back and forth in his chair with the look of a man who just received a real life version of the Monopoly card, "Bank error in your favor."
At this stage of the season, after scoring seven points in the first quarter of a Monday night loss to the Los Angeles Lakers, after benching starting point guard Raymond Felton due to poor play and/or poor attitude, and linging to a slightly above-.500 record, McMillan wasn't going to complain. Something to make life a little bit easier? Please, bring it on. Bring it all the way on.
The result of Popovich's decision was predictable: the Blazers demolished the Spurs, scoring a season-high 137 points, opening up a 48-point lead. Portland opened with 41 points in the first quarter, more than five times their total against the Lakers just 24 hours before. This wasn't a real basketball game so I'm going to give you the pertinent quotes and then we'll talk to Elliot Williams about life and his garbage time dunks.
"We need to rest players," Popovich said, explaining his decision. "With this schedule, everybody rests players at some point. It would be great if I was still able to play Manu and Tiago tonight and rest Tony and Tim, but that's not the case. Those guys are out, and I can't run our guys into the ground. When it's time for them to rest based on the schedule and the time they've been playing, that's what has to happen if you want to put somebody in the bank for later."
"Sometimes that type of game can be a challenge," McMillan said. "Sometimes you can be a letdown. For our guys, as I told them, it's not about the team or who is out we need to play the game. I thought they did. They went out and focused. They played the game the right way."
The Blazers started Jamal Crawford, who finished with 20 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds and 1 turnover, in place of Felton. Crawford was hot early, not hesitating to pull from deep while doing a fine job of getting the ball to LaMarcus Aldridge, who was towering over Spurs forward Richard Jefferson. Felton also did well in his reserve role, coming off the bench for the first time all season to provide immediate scoring: He hit a season-high four 3-pointers and finished with 16 points, 4 assists, 1 rebound and 1 turnover. Thanks mostly to the guard duo, the Blazers hit eight first-quarter 3-pointers and this game was pretty much a wrap.
The big rotation question now is whether Felton's demotion was a short-term thing or a longer-term switch. The timing of the move, one game before the All-Star break, is enough to raise some eyebrows.
"I believe in Raymond," McMillan said before the game. "Raymond is going to be fine. He will still be in the rotation and we're going to need him to play well... I made the decision after last night's game, looking at our rhythm and our start that I was going to change the rotation... This is a decision made for tonight."
The words were delivered as if future lineup decisions had potentially not yet been made.
Afterwards, Felton said he hasn't gotten a clear indication of what his role will be after the All-Star break or if he will return to the starting lineup. "Who knows? I don't know nowadays," he said. "If it happens, it happens, if it don't, it don't. I'm going to be professional and play basketball."
Crawford, for his part, tried to say all the right things about stepping in as the starting point guard, but his tone didn't make the lineup change sound like a particularly permanent thing.
"That's a tough question," Crawford said before the game, when asked what McMillan hoped to see from him that Felton hadn't provided. "I honestly don't know. I pride myself on being a professional. I'm probably more of a 2/1 combo guard but I pride myself on being a professional either way, no matter what it is."
For those concerned about Crawford's ability to run a team full-time, he offered this humorous historical perspective, plus some statistical evidence. "I actually won a state championship in high school as a point guard," he said. "[I averaged] 23 [points]. I could have scored more. I dumbed down my scoring so I could average more assists. I averaged 11 assists actually."
The post-game feel was like the day before Christmas vacation at your local elementary school. Gerald Wallace was the first out the door, headed for his home in Alabama. "I'm going to sleep in, eat some bad food, and drink some sodas," he quipped.
Felton, meanwhile, is headed for the City of Sin. "I'm going to go work out, stay on top of everything but at the same time I'm going to have some fun and enjoy myself," he said. "I'm going to Vegas, work out with my trainer there, have some fun and enjoy myself."
What happens in Raymond Time, stays in Raymond Time.
One of the last to leave the locker room was Williams, whose story has been terribly overlooked by me this season. Good thing I can explain that oversight by just blaming McMillan for not playing him enough. (Talk about the easiest crowd-pandering set-up of all time.)
Anyway, as you might imagine, I have knees on the brain this week. Williams, of course, underwent right knee surgery in Nov. 2010 and left knee surgery in Jan, 2011, procedures that forced him to miss his entire rookie season.
Right now, he stands an amazing contrast with Greg Oden because he self-reports as 100 percent recovered from the surgeries. He seems to have lost no explosion or leaping ability, he remains absolutely fearless, driving actively into contact and looking to jump over people seemingly whenever possible, and his knees require no extra icing or out of the ordinary treatment. It's as if that year of his life, physically speaking, never happened.
On Tuesday, Williams threw down two more sensational dunks. His highlight reel for the season is already exceptionally long, even though he's played in barely more than 100 total minutes in 2011-2012.
Williams has told me multiple times that he simply doesn't think about his knees this season. But that doesn't mean he's forgotten the rigors of rehabilitation.
"A year ago, at this time, I couldn't even walk," he told me after the game. "I was in the bed. It was tough. I had surgery on both my knees. I worked hard to get back on the court. It's a blessing."
Often, the thought of future on-court glory will inspire or motivate injured players through that mental minefield. They can escape from mental and physical pain, or seemingly endless boredom, by closing their eyes to picture hitting a winning shot, or crossing someone over, or being introduced to the crowd. The fantasy can be a good way to finish a repetition, or a run, or simply to help get up and out of bed.
For Williams, that was not the case. During second half action against the Spurs, he spread out his arms like wings after throwing down an alley-oop dunk at full speed, his head nearly hitting the backboard. It was an iconic moment, a picture that will likely be the most memorable of his 2011-2012 season.
But it wasn't an image that he had in his mind last year.
"It's hard to see that when you can't walk," he said. "But I'm a guy who works very hard. I knew I would get back going."
Williams, 22, is a showman on the court but still extremely shy off of it. Asked about the airplane dunk celebration, he looked immediately at his feet and starting laughing, as if embarrassed by his expression.
"Just a little something something," he said. "I was feeling myself a little bit. Probably got to cut that out. Just in the heat of the moment."
He then attempted to hand off the credit. "Wesley, he could have probably scored the lay-up, but being the great teammate he is, looked for me on the break," Williams said. "He threw it up. I tried to get the dunk in there quick because I saw [Danny] Green coming."
That one wasn't Williams' only highlight. Later, he rose high to throw a left-handed dunk down with his head near rim level.
It wasn't just dunks though, no matter how captivating the high-flying can be for everyone, basketball purists included. Williams continues to play assertively off the dribble, hitting from a variety of spots as he compiled a career-high 17 points.
"The thing about the NBA is you have to be aggressive and confident," Williams said. "These players are great. That's one thing I try to always be, stay aggressive and confident."
His play earned repeated cheers from the Rose Garden crowd, who have been clamoring for him to play more minutes. "I hear a little bit of it," Williams admitted. "I'm not worried about that. I appreciate the fans seeing talent but the one thing I've got to do is be prepared for when I get my opportunity."
The career night also caused Wallace to razz Williams during his post-game television interview (video here). Later, Wallace called across the locker room to tell Williams that he needed to watch SportsCenter, because he was going to make the top play.
"G, that's my big bro," Williams said. "He's always looking out for me and joking with me. Just making sure I stay on top of things. He's a good dude."
Williams remains in that magical, temporary state of life as a professional basketball player where he is happy with the limited minutes he's being given while able to succeed in those minutes. He's neither overwhelmed or underwhelmed, and he appears to have made some meaningful developmental progress over the course of this season. As mentioned in previous write-ups, he's usually the last player off the practice court, where he goes hard in one-on-one drills with player development assistant coach Dan Dickau. Before games, he's often working on dribbling and passing with his off (right) hand, getting in dozens of repetitions in hopes of improving his two-way feel.
As you might expect, all the attention given to his offense is the opposite of the message he's hearing from McMillan. "I talk with Nate a lot," he said. "The one thing he always tells me about is defense, pressure the ball. Your offense will come. Coach Nate is big on defense."
Williams said he is glad to have left the first half of the season on a high note, and he is headed home to spend time with his family during the All-Star break. The Slam Dunk Contest, it goes without saying, will be appointment viewing. "I've got some friends in there. Iman [Shumpert] is a good friend, Paul George," he said.
The obvious question came next: Will he be there next year?
"If they call me, I'll go," he said, smiling.
Asked if he had a series of dunks in the cut, ready to break out once he receives an invite, Williams broke down laughing again.
"I can come up with stuff," he promised. "But I don't have any ready to go. I'm just trying to get on the court."
Random Game Notes
- Thank you to all of those who donated to Blazersedge Night, helping the site reach its goal of sending 600 kids to a Blazers game.
- I hate to plug this again but many missed it in the deluge of Greg Oden posts: my CBSSports.com feature on Oden pulling together all the key quotes and news bits from Blazers Acting GM Chad Buchanan.
- Jason Quick of The Oregonian reports that the Blazers may not be done pursuing free agent center Joel Przybilla. As mentioned on Tuesday morning, it's possible the Blazers release center Greg Oden to open up a roster spot to facilitate a move like signing Przybilla.
- Blazers guard Wesley Matthews rolled his left ankle during garbage time. He said he was fine and that it will not affect his status.
- Matt Calkins of The Columbian asked McMillan whether Matthews should have still been in the game at that point. "We were about to rotate there," McMillan said. "Things like that can happen any time." McMillan was not happy to be answering that question again. Matthews was not the only rotation player still on the court in the fourth quarter of a ridiculous blowout.
- The Jumbotron Marriage Proposal Chronicles continued on Tuesday night, with a man proposing to his lady. She said, "yes," immediately, and looked very excited, although not totally shocked. Then, after a brief kiss, the man pulled out his phone and held it up in front of his face, apparently taking a camera phone photograph of the image of himself and his future life partner that was being shown on the jumbotron. "Will you marry me? ... Cool... Hold on, which button zooms out? God we look so big!"
- If the Blazersedge community can send 600 kids to a Blazers game, surely it can produce the camera phone image of this couple, right? I feel like that photo will wind up in my inbox by noon Wednesday.
- As the game turned into a serious blowout, an older British (?) lady, seated with a male companion directly behind me in the "Party Suite," decided it would be a good idea to lightly caress my head with a giant foam finger without asking permission. I guess that's just how she rolls. "Bold." "Awkward." Some might say, "illegal." Obviously, she's getting a divorce right now and we're getting engaged on the jumbotron next week. But seriously I reacted like Chris Paul when Pau Gasol tried to rub his head. I probably scared her sober.
- Things got a little awkward with the Blazers up 57-37 in the second quarter. Blazers forward Luke Babbitt, apparently preparing for his fourth quarter duties, began grating cheese, shredding lettuce and pre-heating his oven on the bench. At halftime, he could be heard through the locker room wall shouting, "Get Money!" and teammates later reported that he interrupted McMillan's halftime speech by making it rain Taco Bell coupons.*
- Unfortunately for Babbitt, the Blazers hit 100 points before the fourth quarter and he was not able to be the Chalupa Man again.
- * This didn't happen. (To my knowledge.)
Nate McMillan's Post-Game Comments
Thoughts on that game
Sometimes that type of game can be a challenge. When Coach Popovich, about the same time last year he rested some of his guys, they played well, you know they are going to scrap. Sometimes you can be a letdown. For our guys, as I told them, it's not about the team or who is out we need to play the game. I thought they did. They went out and focused. They played the game the right way. We got off to a good start. Pretty much continued that.
How did Jamal Crawford and Raymond Felton play?
I thought both of them did a nice job of running the team. Taking the shots that were there. We haven't seen this type of shooting all season long. It's good to see those guys take good shots and make shots.
Why only 14 minutes for Marcus Camby?
We went with our rotation, they were playing small ball, it was a good match-up for us.
Hard to evaluate lineup change against a team that doesn't play starters?
I'm not going to worry about it. We got this win tonight. I'm going on break tomorrow. I'll start thinking about that when we return next week.
Assessment of the first half of the season?
It was OK. We weren't consistent. As I told the guys, go and enjoy the break. Get away because we need to refocus. We've got some making up to do. This second half, we've got to lock in and play much better basketball to get ourselves back in this race. The first half, we know there are a number of games we felt like we could have won. We are where we are. We have to lock in and play a better second half.
Message to LaMarcus Aldridge for All-Star selection?
Enjoy it. Enjoy it. Opportunities like that, they are hard to come by. He deserves it. He's earned the right to be an All-Star. Enjoy it. Congratulations on that.
Should Wesley Matthews have been in the game late when he sprained his ankle?
We were about to rotate there. Things like that can happen any time.
Halftime message?
Don't play the scoreboard. Play the game. I thought our guys did that.
A chance to get young players minutes
We rarely get into a game like that. You are able to get those guys some minutes. They work hard, it was good to see them out on the floor. They did a good job of running [their sets]. They work on their sets every day, they ran their sets, I thought they did a solid job. They didn't, as I say, mess with the game. They stayed solid, executed defensively. Were pretty aggressive. It wasn't sloppy towards the end.
Where are you going on the break?
I'm going to get away. I think I'm going to go back to Carolina for a few days.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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Williams can make me laugh, too
In the post game interview, when asked if he was going to rest or work out during the break, his response was “I’m rested”.
Funny stuff.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Felton going to "Sin City"
What, there aren’t enough strip clubs in Portland? Not enough casinos in Oregon? Why does he have to go to Salt Lake?
Steve Goodman lives.
Everyone knows that Salt Lake is the strip club capital of the world
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 AM PST up reply actions
He's going for the All-You-Can-Eat Buffets
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
by YoniRap on Feb 22, 2012 7:41 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada
Sometimes maybe strip clubs aren’t enough.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
by RedUniInLA on Feb 22, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nolan tweeted this morning that he's going with Ray
This could be bad…
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
He also said its business related.
I don’t know what business that is, but hopefully its productive.
He didn't say whether or not he was the customer...
I’m kidding. I don’t really care what he does in his free time, as long as it’s not detrimental to his on-court performance.
Well, actually, I’m ok if it’s detrimental, as long as there’s a hilarious headline involved.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
It's Nolan's turn to keep Ray from overeating.
What happens in Raymond Time, stays in Raymond Time.
That is hilarious.
Pop is the best coach in the league
He truly knows how to get the most out of his guys. Every year they get older and without fail they are up at the top of the WC.
Most guys block shots with their fingertips. Wallace was blocking them with his armpit.
by ODEN on a stick on Feb 22, 2012 3:14 AM PST reply actions
1st round loss says what??
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 22, 2012 7:31 AM PST up reply actions
That was a fluke.
I’d like to see San Antonio get another shot at Memphis in an opening-round playoff series, because the Spurs will get revenge this time around.
That wasn't a fluke
With Battier, Allen, Arthur, and Z Bo, Memphis was just a killer match-up for San Antonio. San Antonio is a lot deeper this year, with the development of Green and Splitter (as well as having Leonard), so I’ll bet they’d win now.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
yeah case of really bad mismatches
series probably would have gone that way 2 times out of 3. Spurs were unlucky to match up with Memphis.
also Manu played hurt
i keep dancing on my own.
by atomiccafe on Feb 22, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah definitely
but I expect much of the same for the Spurs regarding injuries
nic as a starter
20.6pts, 6.1rebs, 1.9asts, 1.3blks, 1stl, 49.6% FG, 40.5% from 3 in 36mins.
his PER for the season is now 19.73, and is now 4th above melo on the list of SFs
PHILLY!
Anybody starting to worry about how much he's gonna cost us...
We’ll obviously have to pay the dude, but getting the aggression we have wanted out of the dude this year is gonna cost us a pretty penny before it’s all over (unlike LMA waiting till after his contract to blow up…remember when everybody was trying to figure out what percentage of max made sense for him and we landed on 90 or so. If this were contract year, I have a feeling that percent would be a tad different).
Yep.
if he keeps this level of play up consistently, then he deserves big bucks!
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
I agree with y'all. I'm not suggesting he's not worth it.
He’s earning the money he’s going to get, and I’m glad he’s getting aggressive. I’m just saying that it so happens he’s doing it contract year style and it’s going to cost us. As opposed to the fact that LMA is probably underpaid considering his pre/post contract play.
thats ok
it was worth the money IMO to get him to break out of his shell.
True, the transformation is getting fun
I’ll just figure we’re picking up the few million a year extra that Lamarcus should be getting and pinning it the checks we’ll be cutting Batum. That should soothe my cap conscious mind.
by Dunemonkey on Feb 22, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I do recall quite a few people thought LMA was being OVERPAID
When he got his contract.
Think that Batum will continue to earn his money. Just hope Portland will pay him.
they wanted him to prove it
and so far he is. Since they passed on the extension. If I were Nic I’d buy them a thank you card. This was a push in the right direction for him.
did nic get as much of an opportunity THIS YEAR
before this recent stretch?
because right now, his production is nearly linearly related to his minutes.
PHILLY!
11 million is overpaying since the right comp is probably Gallinari (a superior player at 10.5 million) but what else are you going to do with the money anyway?
i keep dancing on my own.
It's no given that Gallinari is a superior player
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 22, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
At the same age Gallinari can handle the ball, get his own shot, and is a better defender.
i keep dancing on my own.
Yeah, he's really impressed me this year
I don’t remember Gallinari going as hard to the rack in the past as he has the couple times I’ve seen him play this year. I’d give him the edge right now, but Nic is starting to make a case for himself as the better player if he keeps acting and improving like he has lately.
Either way, it’s a pretty decent comparison.
Gallinari is a better defender?
Based on reputation?
Batum has a significantly better Drtng (100 vs. 104), blocks twice as many shots, steals more, etc. Gallinari is a better defensive rebounder, although Nic’s overall rate is basically the same.
Gallinari has some better offensive stats, particularly in FTA – but the offensive efficiency difference between the two is miniscule (20.0 vs. 19.7).
Using Win Shares/48, Batum is the better overall player.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 22, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
DRtg is a poor stat, based on DMult, defensive plus minus, and NBAPET from Basketball Prospectus, Gallinari does more to prevent his opponents from scoring than Nic.
i keep dancing on my own.
Projections are irrelevant
Gallinari was better than Batum last year.
It’s this year, now.
This year, Batum is the better defensive player, and stats like DMult, when calculated with current data, will agree.
Defensive +/- is completely useless without more data due to standard error – meaning you once again have to rely on previous year data that tells you nothing about how a player is doing this year.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 22, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, but we have three years of adjusted +/- and RAPM data saying Batum’s been bad on that end. Naturally non-boxscore defense is a hard thing to measure, so it’s hard to tell exactly what’s happening on that end right away, but that doesn’t mean it should be ignored in favor of just focusing on blocks and steals, which are less than 5% of total possessions for small forwards.
i keep dancing on my own.
throw the game out
Like a really bad game, a really good game is no indicator of anything.Just got to throw it out. What really seemed to happen is that Pop insulted the Blazers by “resting” his starters hinting that they could win anyway against an average team. Blazers showed life and demolished them. At least they have pride left despite the fact that they are not very good.
It was also great to see Williams get some run which actually added interest to a relatively boring team this year.
Or he rested his starters
hinting that they would have lost anyway.
This actually
We have had SA’s number pretty much last few years …add in the fact it was at the RG ..and the blazers loss in LA, Pop must have figured what the hell
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 22, 2012 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
Spurs summer league team
I have not heard of most of those guys from college…other than Kawhai Leonard, none of those guys even had a NCAA career…..maybe James Anderson too.
Elliott WIlliams is smooth. IF he gets his handle on he should be able to blow by 80% of the guards in the NBA and finish in the paint. He is a keeper and quick feet on D too. Like to see more of he and Nolan in the backcourt at same time.
Dude sitting behind me yelled “fat boy” at Felton maybe 20 times during the game…I laughed 10 of those times.
he's not fat
he’s festively plump!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jgEhH81TbQ&feature=related
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
That isn't funny
Dude sitting behind me yelled "fat boy" at Felton maybe 20 times during the game…I laughed 10 of those times.
I am quite certain Ray Felton could run either one of you into the ground
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 22, 2012 8:17 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I am also not a fan of calling our players names.
First, name-calling got old to most of us after graduating from the 1st grade. Second, they are often dead wrong. I had some loser behind me at a game calling LMA “LaMartha” everytime he touched the ball. Where would this team be without LMA? Third, and probably most important, you aren’t as funny or creative as you might think you are when you start name-calling. Try something more creative and those around you might laugh.
by 52therim on Feb 22, 2012 9:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I actually changed my season ticket location
because of some dude sitting just behind me commenting on every play of the game …usually negatively…usually tired old takes I have heard a million time already ….it was like being immersed in the fan-shots every single game
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 22, 2012 9:13 AM PST up reply actions
In all my season ticket fantasies
Being stuck next to a season ticket bonehead never came up. Not that this will be a problem anytime soon, but I’ll keep that in mind…
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Feb 22, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, creativity is important.
Jeers can be amusing, but not if they’re lame, unoriginal, or out of place.
I'm quite tired of 'fat' references regarding Felton...
it’s so old, untrue, and unfunny…If you’re going to give him grief, grieve about his game, his leadership, his calling out of Nate…
#7
but he is at least portly
you have to admit he body type is unique for a professional basketball player….don’t get me wrong, I cheer for the guy, its just that he doesn’t exactly help himself by his play, his comments or his command of the offense.
by breakerfall on Feb 22, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
He's really not any more 'portly' than Andre Miller is IMO...
He’s all of an inch shorter and 5 lbs heavier. So no, he’s not unique at all…
its just that he doesn’t exactly help himself by his play, his comments or his command of the offense.
This is what you can grieve about (and what I just said)…
#7
His physique coming into camp was noticeably different than it was the previous fall in NY, that’s where the criticism is fair and the comparison to Andre (who’s looked the same for 5 years) falls short.
i keep dancing on my own.
I'm pretty sure the height/weights stats listed on the profiles are pre-season...
Look, the criticism of his weight or shape or fatigue was fair for first couple weeks of the season but to keep re-hashing it just wastes everyone’s time. We know, we get it, move on…
#7
sure
but then we’d get bored of talking about how he sucks at basketball this year and we gave up two players who are better than him to get him.
i keep dancing on my own.
Bored with that, too...
it’s like talking about Greg Oden’s knee…what more can you say that hasn’t already been said?
#7
Yeah but that's a fair thing to be upset about.
Similarly, I will continue to fight back againt the “cupcake” faction even though I am fully on board for blasting Felton’s inability to accept personal responsibility.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Feb 22, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Remember Andre starting the season overweight because "I always play myself into game shape"?
Remember Nate benching him. Remember Andre getting mad & vocal, then returning to play harder and better?
Sound familiar?
How quickly we forget.
by HiPo Steve on Feb 22, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Andre was a slow starter throughout his career, so we knew that he would come into form. That’s not the case with Felton whose conditioning was noticeably worse with Denver last year than New York (I watched pretty much every one Felton’s games with the Nuggets).
i keep dancing on my own.
Interesting. More observations, please?
You followed Felton enough to see a difference in conditioning between NY & Denver? How much difference? Where does his current level of conditioning (at least as far as we can tell from observable physique) compare with NYC & Denver? How does his game here compare with Denver?
Can't. Resist. Nerdy. Nitpicking.
Sorry chief, muscle doesn’t “weigh” more than fat. A pound of muscle and a pound of fat still both weight a pound. Your very legitimate point is that muscle has more density than fat, so that its possible for two people of the same height and weight to have very different fitness levels. The more muscular person will be “leaner” than the person with higher bodyfat %.
So you’re right, comparing Miller and Felton’s ht/wt doesn’t really defend Felton from the accusation of being out of shape. That still doesn’t make knee-jerk name calling okay. Especially since, as was noted above, Felton could probably humiliate every last name caller on this blog. Even at his peak weight in the offseason.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Feb 22, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
So what you're saying is...
Fat weighs less than muscle?
by manfredi on Feb 22, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
ahh - the implied reference is per unit of volume
While rather removed, this was in response to the guy using Andre’s height weight as a comparison to Felton.
You did get the ‘legitimate’ point, but, yes nerdy ‘word game’ pretending not to.
Someone looking fat has to to with ‘volume’. Now as far as ‘name calling’ goes, as someone who has been ‘fat’, motivation is a critical factor in making the change. I personally know it is something that is changeable. People who are ‘sympathetic’ are part of the problem, not the solution IMO. The point is ‘please take care of it, you can do it’. Not ‘knee jerk’, strategic motivational strategy.
If what you are doing is not working, try something else.
Well if Felton is an inch shorter and 5 lbs heavier than Miller...
then the conclusion would be he’s more muscular than Miller assuming their physiques are similar (which IMO they are)…
#7
Especially since, as was noted above, Felton could probably humiliate every last name caller on this blog
And Nate can outcoach his nay sayers. Doesn’t mean they can’t heckle him.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
The round mound of dribble/pass off your foot (or mine) is fair game
The problem is that Felton looks like he hasn’t committed to being in perfect shape – he looks and plays like he is out of shape.
He gets no pass until he reverses the trend of losing focus on the court – and losing focus is a truer sign of fatigue than turning on the occasional jets.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 22, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
so repeatedly calling him fat, cupcake, fatty, fatboy, chubs, round mound of anything.....
fifty times in a thread that mentions his name isn’t going to change that. We got it…get over it…no one wants to read it over and over again…
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by clinchmobb on Feb 22, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Until Felton does something different
Stop trying to hold back the tide with your hands.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 22, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
I expect better from most of the posters on this site...
It’s really sunk to a new low. Anything he does, right or wrong, is immediately followed by a hundred comments regarding his weight. Some new material would be nice…It’s like tominhawaii last year moaning about Andre every time his name was mentioned except times 50. At least tominhawaii through you some new material once in a while…
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by clinchmobb on Feb 22, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I like the Cupcake nickname personally
the guy isn’t anywhere near fat but “cupcake” fits some how. I’m sure he’ll find a better nickname as he settles in. Looks like a solid backup PG.
yep !
Pop gave us a game. Thanks EW for making it entertaining and selling tickets. Now management once again needs to decide which guards to keep. Good grief it never ends.Like the Blazers don’t need more big men :(
just win baby !
by FrenchieFan on Feb 22, 2012 10:57 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
True, he could probably beat the tar out of them.
Of course, getting heckled comes with the territory of being a pro athlete. Plus, a guy like Raymond Felton should be able to use the taunts as motivation for him. Feed off the negative energy, y’know.
Someone calling Felton "Fatboy".....
….is the equivalent to this
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 22, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
well, yeah, MOTIVATOR is why I don't mind referencing 'fat'.
I have had to lose weight, and part of the process is getting serious about the PROBLEM, rather than excuses. It definitely takes motivation to change cherished eating habits. Fat can be burnt and lost, if you just stop FEEDING it.
If what you are doing is not working, try something else.
Went to this game with my GF who's from San Antonio.
On the MAX ride back she commiserated with another Spurs fan, saying “If the starters were in there this game wouldda been different,” to which I replied “Sweetie, you wouldn’t have even known that if I didn’t tell you.”
Psssshhh, girlfriends— I mean, amirite?!
The fans needed a game like this, even if it was us beating up on the JV squad. It was a really, really fun game to watch though. I attribute that to the Globe Trotter-esque antics as much as I do the covert pre-funk operation that went down unbeknownst to the good people of the Blue Line.
I don't always root for an NBA franchise, but when I do, I prefer the Portland Trail Blazers.
on the jumbotron it looked like one of the cheerleaders went out of her way to give her free pizza hut pizza
to a girl in a Spurs jersey, spurning numerous Blazer fans along the way. I know it’s unrelated, but man that really chaps my hide. That’s just ignorance and disrespect on the part of the Blazer cheerleader.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
aww man. cold-blooded.
narrowly averted a mutiny in the RG. that said, the front office could use a mutiny. at the very least, a coup.
I don't always root for an NBA franchise, but when I do, I prefer the Portland Trail Blazers.
by Oh. Em. Gee. on Feb 22, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
they flashed away on the big screen but you could see it coming
it was then followed by a small chorus of boos coming from that section.
I just don’t get it…you’re a Blazer cheerleader, there are 20,000 Blazer fans and 100 Spurs fans, and you’re gonna give the free pizza that you have been entrusted with to the enemy?
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Feb 22, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe they put
“special” mushrooms on it. Or a laxative. That would make it more understandable.
I can only hope
but I know that’s not the case
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Feb 22, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Tempest, I think that is your teacup calling.
Obviously that was a pity pizza! If you can’t even let your underdressed eye candy show a little generosity, then you’re a pretty small minded crowd, IMHO.
Now if it was a L@kers jersy, that would be different.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Feb 22, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
did Elliott really hit his head on the rim on that missed dunk. if so, I'd really like to see video of it.
I don't think so
He didn’t even touch his head after, I would imagine it would hurt to hit your head on a metal rim while projecting yourself a few feet into the air.
the radio guys said so, unless they were kidding.
seems possible though. Guy is fun to watch.
If what you are doing is not working, try something else.
Grinchzano's lame pregame assertion that the team is tuning out Nate as shown by their lackluster play and bad attitude...
looks pretty silly after watching the team’s passionate play yesterday as well as the video of Eliott’s teammates happily razzing him on camera.
It looks like they were pissed after L*kers game because they played soft and bad and were happy last night after they played hard & well. Duh.
by HiPo Steve on Feb 22, 2012 1:12 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Why does anyone listen to boring John Cunzano?
His show is all about himself. B-O-R-I-N-G.

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