What do y'all want in a head coach?
Nate McMillan aside, I'm curious as to what qualities you guys want in a head coach.
Topics on this matter include stuff such as offensive style, defensive style, pace preference, rotation size, minute distribution, personality, media interaction, veteran experience vs. youthful vigor, and whatever else pops into your head. Or, perhaps, you may not care one way or the other.
Mainly, I just wonder what preferences everybody has when it comes to a head coach.
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Intelligent and creative play-making and play-calling.
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(((o)))
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I want a coach that can recognize the strengths of his players
And organize an offense that plays to those strengths. I want a coach who is flexible enough to make subs that give us mismatches to help us win and not sub just to get a guy his regular minutes. I want a guy who recognizes when someone’s got the hot hand and let’s them play it out.
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 21, 2012 6:48 AM PST via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Second that.
Somebody with a vision for the team. Somebody that can teach the players to stay present in the moment when the moment gets bigger. Someone who gets along with the players. Really understanding the player’s strengths would be paramount.
Not necessarily gets along with..but whom the players respect.
A coach who effectively communicates, both during games and in practice sessions. To the entire team and to each individual player.
A coach who is able to get the players to play to WIN AS A TEAM, accept their roles as players on a team who must do what they need to do to win a championship.
Third that
Rick Adelman always struck me as this type of coach, where his style varied depending on his personnel.
I want a coach that partners
with the GM….much like tonight’s opponent, pop and buford.
I want a coach that makes every player on the team feel valuable.
I want a coach that demands respect because of WHO HE IS as a person.
I want a coach who coaches for the whole season and the big picture and not merely game to game. He coaches so that his team peaks come playoff time.
I want a coach who never throws his players under the bus with the press unless his name is Phil Jackson and he is expert at coaching through the press.
I want a coach who CARES about his players as people.
I want a coach who balances tactical chops with excellent communication skills.
I want a coach who can be completely in the game while maintaining self-composure.
I want a coach that we, the fans, would defend and side with over ANY player.
by inpresence on Feb 21, 2012 7:39 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Hey that sounds a lot like
Nate :)
NOT!
by DonttrashCrash on Feb 21, 2012 8:19 AM PST up reply actions
Did you see how pop sacrificed
the Spurs winning streak for the greater good of the season and beyond?….that, my friends, is big picture thinking….
you can do that when you're 23-9
not so much when you’re 17-16
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
actually
I don’t think many coaches with any record would do it. It is a pop specialty.
by inpresence on Feb 22, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
"I want a coach that we, the fans, would defend and side with over ANY player."
That’s tough to find, as not even Phil Jackson was awarded that luxury. Perhaps Gregg Popovich has it, but that’s because he’s never butted heads with his star player, Tim Duncan, so fans can unwaveringly support them both without division.
I'd love to see what Pop could do with LaMarcus.
by hoodieNation on Feb 21, 2012 11:17 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
not only LMA
the entire team.
I want a coach that we, the fans, would defend and side with over ANY player.
I’d change this to…I want a coach who is wise enough to allow the fans to choose his side in any dispute with any player.
Popovich wisely does not have disputes with Tim Duncan ever. There is no cause. The fans don’t have to choose.
If there is a dispute with a player…that player obviously deserves it.
Popovich coaches in such a way as to bring out the best in his players.
That is also is large part because Duncan doesn't have disputes with coaches either
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 21, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with this, nice post!
It reminded me a lot of the Tripping Daisy song “I Got A Girl”
I want a coach who lives with me.
I want a coach who smells so sweetly…
I want a coach who is so right
I want a coach who is their guiding light
Well coach knows, what they need, I feel they’re going higher and higher
I want a coach who speaks his mind
I want a coach who’ll argue any time
like to see a coach running real offensive sets
actually, with the current portland team, someone like a jerry sloan would be interesting.
he demands his players play defense, but runs a very solid half court offense with incredible usage of pick/roll activity. this would really benefit aldridge and also give 3 point shooters wideopen looks.
as long time season ticket holder for the jazz (20+ years unti i moved to oregon), can say that sloan’s style of offense is faster than most think it is. ball movement and multiple picks/screens free up lots of easy baskets.
that said, sloan’s teams to run the fast break pretty well, too.
by utahcoyote on Feb 21, 2012 8:49 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
What bothers me a bit...
…is the fact that our assistant coaches’ average age is over 54 years old (and this number is skewed quite a bit due to Kaleb Canales’ age. Without Canales, the average age is 61).
I cannot help but wonder if the 30/40-year age gap between players and assistant coaches is a problem. I hope it isn’t, but I cannot help but think that it is. It seems to me that we have one of the oldest collection of coaches in the NBA.
Respect these years.
by Mister Hooligan on Feb 21, 2012 8:51 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I am not sure I see the relevance
Old coaches are a part of the NBA landscape…always have been
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 21, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions
Why would that make any difference
if it is the right coach…ala Tex Winters
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 21, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
Team (Average Assistant Coach Age)
San Antonio (43.6)
Chicago (46.4)
Oklahoma City (44.3)
These were the FIRST three teams that I looked at. I think it is relevant and that is my opinion.
by Mister Hooligan on Feb 21, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Well ok
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 21, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
citing exceptional people
does not really make the case though…a stronger argument skews toward norms for championship staffs…that is what we shuld look at in this debate.
Relateability is an important aspect of any human endeavor involving groups of people. Age may not be THE defining factor as it were, but all things being equal it could have some impact on how the players react to the coaches…
That is not to say the entire staff ought to be younger and that older coaches do not bring significant value, but if there is a communication problem between the staff and the players, this age thing might be a factor to consider…
and frankly, given the inconsistent performance of this team it seems to me that the players can’t be listening to the coaches. Either that or the coaches are just that bad at their jobs.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
I'm not sure how much age has to do with it.
If the Blazers had Ron Adams instead of Bob Ociepka on the coaching staff, then that’d be great regardless of the fact Adams is even older than Ociepka.
don't we also have dan dikau leading the point guards?
Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10
by Tofu Anonymous on Feb 24, 2012 9:54 AM PST up reply actions
Intelligence
I want a coach that understands the game and can communicate it with both the players and fans. I want to actually learn something I don’t know from the coach’s pressers. I want a coach that every few games tries something creative. I want to see players that work hard and show promise rewarded with playing time and increased responsibility, regardless of age/contract. I want a coach that’s wise enough and confident enough to hire assistants smarter than he is about certain aspects of the game.
"Bend your legs!" -Nate McMillan
Hmm...funny how coachs get better
when they get better players (looking at CP3)
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 21, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
I am serious
Coaches look a lot better…when the get better players. Doc Rivers case in point, If the Clips have some success, people will forget all about Chicago and deem Vinnie a good coach….I guarantee it!
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 21, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I really can't imagine anyone ever forgetting about how bad The Black was in Chicago
But yeah, River’s probably benefits a lot from his players. But, he’s also done a good job of hiring great assistants who can create excellent defensive schemes.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
by HailOden! on Feb 21, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think doc Rivers also
has the good sense to stay out of the way when you have three hall-of-fame guys in your starting lineup. He seems like more of an inspirational guy than an actual coach.
by superfly05 on Feb 21, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know much about Rivers but read
an article after they won the championship giving him the credit for getting his three hall of famers to agree to limited minutes in order to be fresh for the playoffs. That must not have been easy with Garnett the psycho wanting to win every game. So if that’s true, he got the big picture right, something which Pops seems to be a master at, and which Nate seems to be severely lacking at because he doesn’t nurture rookies despite this year being at best one and done.
Doc Rivers...2 very good points. The guy is WISE.
1. Hires assistant coaches who are great at what they do. And doesn’t view this as a possible threat.
2. Is able to manage players egos…huge + for a head coach.
While its inarguably the case that coaches are often credited with a turnaround that had more to do with players, a huge key for Doc was hiring an elite assistant in Thibodeau to address a major weakness of his.
Yeah, Doc Rivers badly needed an Xs and Os lead assistant.
In 1983, Billy Cunningham had Chuck Daly. In 1994 & 1995, Rudy T. had Jim Boylen. In 2007, Rivers had Thibs.
There’s got to be other examples, too, but I can’t come up with them right now.
Nate and Bob Ociepka?
I swear that guy must be a hell of a coach, because his charisma is a negative number.
nope. The guy was a safe hire for Nate.
His pal Vinnie the Black knew him. And the Bulls defense was very very crummy while he was there. The Bulls were lazy as a friend who is a Bulls fan stated at that time..they looked unmotivated while playing the Blazers…on the road…remind anyone of the Blazers this year?
Yeah. A good coach is also one who knows his weaknesses
And gets assistant coaches who can fill those needs.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
One of my bigger issues with Nate, and one of the things I'd like to see from our next coach
is the willingness to incorporate young players into the mix, acclimate them to the NBA, and allow them the chance to make a mistake or two without it being the end of their night.
The roster is still my priority though
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Agreed-- fix the roster before you change the coach
Nate is the assistant coach for the National Olympic team. Hes well respected amongst all other superstar players and coaches and teams. I dont agree with everything he does but hes gotten the best out of what hes had to work with. This year is an exception to that but this year is a year with an * (asterisk)by it anyways because of the lockout. Nate is a great coach, doomed to have only coached mediocre teams that at best make the playoffs but never seriously threaten for the championship. The thing is, what coach is available that could be had and are definitely BETTER than Nate? IDK if their is anyone. This team needs to go out of its way to court players to come here. And nothing eases the courting more than MONEY which PA has. Wave a nice wad under some of these guys noses and maybe they will change their minds.
by cavejunctionblazer on Feb 21, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
why so eager to get him out of town?
I bet Nate would make a fine assistant
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
not that he'd ever accept that position in Portland though
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Mike D'Antoni on offense, Tom Thibodeau on defense!
by meru on Feb 21, 2012 10:17 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
The problem with D'Antoni is that he
doesn’t want a defensive coach. That’s why he had to leave Phoenix.
Ron Adams.
I think.
I dunno, I would’ve said Dwane Casey last year, but I’ve been very underwhelmed at how he’s doing as a head coach.
Basically I want a guy who understands the fundamentals but also understands the stats (i.e. best shots are dunks and layups and corner threes, so design your offense to get those shots and your defense to deny your opponents those shots).
I want a coach who understands how to give his players royal jelly—which doesn’t mean the same thing as being permissive, there means giving his players a combination of a good disciplinary structure, but also giving his players enough space to succeed, with realistic goals and a reward structure that encourages both player development and improving on-court performance.
by howlingfantods on Feb 21, 2012 10:20 AM PST reply actions
I want a coach who actually communicates with his players. They know why things are happening instead of
just what is happening.
I’d also like a coach with a track record of developing young players.
Related question: who takes over if Nate was fired mid-season?
IF Nate were fired mid-season, which I think is unlikely, who would take over? It is extremely rare that someone from the outside is brought in mid-season.
Instead, you’d have an interim coach picked from the ranks of the current assistants. Bickerstaff seems the most likely candidate.
Is there anyone on the bench who you think would do a good job in on an interim basis?
a coach is only as good as his players.
But I would like one that can recognize when a younger guy is better than a current player getting more minutes. And one that won’t pull a player that’s on fire out of the game. And one that will bench wing players that aren’t looking to feed LaMarcus every play. And one that doesn’t want to add guys like Crawford just because he’s not afraid to chuck the ball at any and every chance.
by hoodieNation on Feb 21, 2012 11:13 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Isn't that a bit predictable?
And one that will bench wing players that aren’t looking to feed LaMarcus every play.
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 21, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
I'm ok with predictable when were winning.
And for the most part I trust LA to make good decisions with the ball.
by hoodieNation on Feb 21, 2012 1:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well....LMA is already getting more shot attempts per game this season .....
…..than he ever has, so I am not sure that that is really a problem
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Feb 21, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Lionel Hollins
- Experience developing a point guard in Mike Conley
- Won a playoff series in his first trip to the playoffs
- Defense oriented
- His offense is based on an inside-out attack, starting with his two big men Gasol & Randolph. Out to Conley/Gay/Mayo on the perimeter.
- He was drafted by Portland and played for one of the best teams of all time, the 77’ Blazers
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
He also oddly seems to have no affinity or relationship to Portland
Not that it’s a requirement, but you’d think if your best years of playing were here, you’d be a little more connected.
On a related note, I also notice that many of the former Blazers that played for the team prior to Paul Allen’s ownership have strained relations at best.
Patch the relationship -
Petrie 4 GM, Hollins 4 Head Coach :p
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
That's just disgusting.
I suppose you also want to replace the Mike’s with Clyde and Walton.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Bill Walton and Mike Rice.
Most ridiculous announcing team ever.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
Walton is a permafried moron.
Rice knows his ball.
AK1984 ...who would you choose as GM???
Because this may determine who is on the coaching staff, right?
someone who:
Identifies his player’s strengths and weaknesses and gives them set roles.
Can gain a mutual respect with his players.
An offensive system with more ball movement
a strong defense with less switching
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
I’d want an elite defensive tactician first and foremost. I’m a believer that defense is much more about coaching relative to players than offense, so I want offensively skilled players and a coach with elite defensive acumen.
I sometimes wonder if the best combo is an ego manager type at head coach and a defensive-minded ...
tactician as his lead assistant. Talent on offense is of the utmost importance, though, as the “players’ play” axiom rings true.
Kind of off topic
But I strongly believe we haven’t hired a new GM yet because we are waiting to fire Nate at the end of this season. I think they want to bring in a GM and Coach at the same time so they can have a completely clean slate. They can have a vision team wide and not have two guys butting heads.
I don't think that is it. I think Paul knows exactly who he wants for the next GM.
He’s just waiting for that guy’s contract to run out, else he would be interviewing candidates. That’s the logical assumption.
Nate has 2 years left on his contract (counting this year). Paul may fire him at the end of the season but that wouldn’t stop him from bringing in a GM now. They need a GM for this trade deadline and the draft in June. A new GM now would get time to assess the players and Nate before the draft and summer free agency. Paul’s waiting because the guy he wants is under contract somewhere now.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 21, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
You could also argue he hasn't filled the spot because he's in process of selling the team
and the new owner wants to pick his own GM. But the spot has been vacant so long that doesn’t fit the timeline.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 21, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I don't think that's it.
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
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by Tyler Durrden on Feb 21, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
eh, a new owner can fire a GM if he feels like it
And not having a GM doesn’t do wonders for the value of the team.
"He’s just waiting for that guy’s contract to run out, else he would be interviewing candidates."
That’s got me worried.
yeah, way too many GMs in this league are pretty horrible.
especially the ones that aren’t locked up by their teams
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
I heard the Blazers are looking for a top tier GM...names mentioned were
the guy on OKC and Sacramento’s GM. And that the plan is to have that guy hire his coaching staff.
well that's weird...got the message to wait a few seconds to post..
and the title was posted twice without the rest…OKC’s GM and Sacramento’s GM. It was said that the new GM would then hire a coaching staff.
Who would that be?
There are only 29 GMs in the league. Who would fit the bill?
by grigs on Feb 21, 2012 6:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
IDK
Next season we have a TON of cap space. It would be a perfect situation for a new GM to come into. Pretty much get to put a whole new team together and pick your Coach. I could be wrong, as I also see where you are coming from, but I don’t think my gut feeling is too far off base.
Agreed,
They are going after a big time GM who will insist on autonomy and that will begin with the hiring of their coach.
for GM? I'm down.
Everything I needed to know about basketball I learned from watching the ‘80-’90 Boston Celtcs (at the garden)
The chances are pretty good that by the end of this season Kahn in Minny will have built a team with a
better record and better prospects than Blazers management.
Mike Budenholzer.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum and Aldridge/ /BLOW IT UP/
Tom Thibodeau
Excellent chess, not middling checkers player.
Gives nothing away for free while playing great D. Has whole team playing fundamentally sound, hard, smart basketball. Able to get out of the way and coach up superstar players.
player development, tough love, be direct, have confidence in your team, let it ride...
Let the kids play! Let ‘em fail for more than :90 seconds at a time, see if they learn anything.
… memories from being a rookie in Portland… watched a lot of basketball.
OH AND PLAY TO YOUR PLAYERS STRENGTHS!
With Batum and Wallace, there’s no reason we shouldn’t be throwing poor man’s Miami Heat touchdown alley oops at least 2-3 times a game.
who is going to throw long alley oops,
what with the worst passing backcourt in the Western playoff picture…
i keep dancing on my own.
Tee-hee, Flip Saunders. Kidding...
Probably Tom Thibadeau or Gregg Poppovich.
by lawalteral14 on Feb 21, 2012 2:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Interestingly, Flip Saunders is a good example of how an offensive-minded coach can't mold players ...
on offense to the same extent that a defensive-minded coach can mold players on defense. So, in essence, a defensive-minded coach like Scott Skiles possesses a larger impact than an offensive-minded coach like Saunders.
How about Adelman?
I’m trying to remember who his defensive genius was in Portland and can’t.
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 21, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not saying it's true
but I remember people saying how Dumb Adelman was and what a low IQ the Blazer team had both after we lost the one year to an inferior LA team and then lost the finals to Chicago. Now when people talk about him it’s like the second coming.
Same thing will happen with Nate
Just wait 10 years.
now if he'd just play Captain Jack so he can produce for my fantasy team...
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
You put a knowingly put a Skiles player on your fantasy team???
Smh…
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
I would say
Nate needs to chill out. One quality I liked about Phil Jackson was the fact he just chilled out and let his boys play. Nates probably got ulcers and full gray hair by now from all the stress he causes himself. Hes always marching up and down the sidline lookin all pissed off. I never see him give any body 5 when they come back to the bench, no back slaps, nada. He needs to loosin up IMHO. I like a coach who is more mellow.
by cavejunctionblazer on Feb 21, 2012 4:43 PM PST reply actions
How about guards,
who act like professionals. Come to work in shape, play ball, and quit crying to the media ? Then, an owner who isnt dazzled by flashy guards, and wants new ones every year ?
Offense sells tickets, defense wins games.
I was raised by a Sarge, I handle it, and I’m a girl. Nates job is to win games, not babysit grown men and answer the same stupid questions year after year.
Man up and play already sissies !!
just win baby !
A Frenchie Fan girl who wants men to man up?
I thought you’d all gone… Thank you!
A coach that looks toward the future
as far as evaluating and developing young talent. Looking like Kate Upton would be a plus in my book also.
In a word, Pop....
To win a championship, that has to be your goal, from Day One to Day Infinity.
It means thinking long term, both in the front office, the training rooms, the coaches office, and on the court.
Pop is among the best because he is unafraid. Unafraid of fines by Stern. Unafraid of media hacks. Unafraid of losses.
We don’t even have a GM, so you’d be hard pressed to convince me there is any long term plan (short term plan, this season, I get it – don’t forget, we were 7-2 before Sarge’s “training” took hold…)
We have a highly overrated coach, IMO. He is lauded for his D, which AK has shown us all to be crap. He has ZERO concept of how to run an offense. He wants his team but is unable to make them able to achieve any kind of success on a 3 on 1.
I want a coach who is willing to lose the battle to win the war.
I want a coach who is willing to adapt his scheme to his players.
I want a coach who has been around enough to realize that the NBA is a playoff league. Period.
I want a coach who will ride the hot hand.
I want a coach who understands that you have to teach players how to run a fast break (touch the sideline at the halfcourt stripe, then head to the hoop) , not just yell “go” from the sidelines.
I want a coach who realizes that D still does win championships.
I want a coach who isn’t wondering why the NBA roster has any more than 8 or 9 players on it.
In short, I want a coach.
Nate would be fine
minus a couple of his weird tendencies. Like his clear hatred of anyone good who is young and his inability to bring the bench in during blow out games.
LaMarcus Aldridge All-Star 2011-2012.
by Eat Politicians on Feb 21, 2012 11:55 PM PST reply actions
Nate likes players who remind him of himself.
Blake, Matthews.
Doesn’t prefer players who are just gifted and have an “easier” time of it…LMA, Batum….
Roy is the outlier here. Nate loved Roy and Roy was gifted.
Avery Johnson with the voice of Clint Eastwood
by Norsktroll on Feb 21, 2012 11:59 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Gregg Popovich with the voice of Morgan Freeman
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
Chuck Norris with the voice of Gerald Wallace
BOOM!
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
And Chuck's boots, with a Walker Texas Ranger hat
Oh yeah…
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
I guess the most successful coaches still alive and without a job would be Rudy Tomjanovich and Pat Riley
One is a scout for the Lakers, the other is the emperor in Miami so he won’t come.
Runner-up: Larry Brown
He has the added bonus of hating all the guys he finds on a roster when taking over, so at least he’d be definitely doing some rebuilding no matter if the GM and owner really intended that or not.
Larry Brown is one of my favorites
of course age could be an issue, but I thihk he is healthy. I don’t care if he does not stay long. It would be fascinating to see what he could do with the team. I have a lot of confidence in his knowledge, incredible experiece, including championship ring (Pistons) relating to players like Rasheed and Iverson. I remember him coming out against the refs for targeting Sheed for technicals – player support. Iverson loved him. I just don’t see how LB would not have instant respect in the locker room. If I was owner, I would certainly reach out to him and see if he might be interested. He would not have to fear being eclipsed by the most competent assistants, who would love the chance to work with and learn from the legend.
If what you are doing is not working, try something else.
A few quick coach Larry Brown bullet points:
- InsideHoops.com considers him the best teacher in the entire basketball coaching game- Almost every team Larry Brown coaches tends to overachieve and do better than expected
- Enshrined into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame’s Class of 2002
- Larry Brown has won three ABA Coach of the Year awards
- Won 2001 NBA Coach of the Year honors
- Won NCAA Championship in 1988
- Won NBA Championship in 2004
- Coached 2003-04 Detroit Pistons to the NBA Championship in his first year as head coach
- Became first coach to win a NCAA and NBA Championship
- Was 12th coach in NBA history to win an NBA title in his first season
- Has coached an NBA record seven different teams to the NBA Playoffs
- Won his 900th career NBA game in 2003-04, becoming the seventh coach in NBA history to win 900 games
- Larry Brown spent four seasons in the ABA, earning Coach of the Year honors three times
- Brown returned to the collegiate ranks in 1979 as head coach at UCLA. The Bruins immediately went to the national championship game
- Spent five seasons as head coach at the University of Kansas, where he won the national championship in 1988
- As a player, Larry Brown was a member of the 1964 gold medal U.S. Olympic basketball team
- Brown is the only U.S. male to both play and coach in the Olympics
I noticed he interviewed for the Minny coach job a year ago, so, maybe an option.
If what you are doing is not working, try something else.
If you have a contender already built, you go for it.
but he doesn’t tend to stick around very long, so you want to have a great team already coming in so that we can get immediate results.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
He is usually really good at player development, though
So if you’ve got some young guys with a lot of potential and steep learning curves (Elliot and Nic come to mind), he could be a really good stop gap to get us to the contending stage. The only problem is that he likes to play GM, and he’s got a Trader Bob mentality.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Adaptable offense, fundamental defense
Good offensive systems come in a lot of flavors – and many of them are personnel-dependent. Certain fundamentals are always in play, however:
1) Get the highest percentage shot available against a defense (which is always a function of what players do well individually)
2) Keep the ball moving (ball moves faster than feet)
3) Make defenses pay for double teaming, fronting, jumping passing lanes
4) Take advantage of mismatches by going over the top or around smaller or less mobile defenders
5) Make all five defenders play excellent defense every play
Besides that, I want a coach that can coach players to their natural strengths – both developing skills and getting them to understand shot selection. I want a coach that will run the same play 50 times in a row if the defense can’t stop it. I want a coach that can punish gimmicks by getting his players to recognize weaknesses. I want a coach that commands respect and loyalty from his players – and returns the favor. I want a coach that is willing and ready to win 10 different ways – but always one step ahead.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Sweet, sweet love
And kisses that go deep in the mouth and last all night long.
So Nate’s been working for me.
Steve Goodman lives.
I mean I want to rebuild with a coach not worried about winning now, but about developing young talent.
Nate looks like a rental coach who will end the season saving his record and leaving for greener pastures sooner than later. It all starts with a new GM (Cho was the man, but…) and then a new coach.
For a short-term rebuild - Hubie Brown.
Great teacher.
Yeah he is great
He probably won’t do coaching again though at his age. The travel would be rough.
by Sheed'sTowel on Feb 22, 2012 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
I'd have to say a proven winner
and a couple of guys come to mind Jerry Sloan, Rick Adelman… They coached with class… With the exception of Deron Williams driving Sloan out of Utah and then leaving… I’d say they never had any real bad interactions with players…. They have been to the big show… adelman with a few teams… plus bring in one of these guys restores the Brandon Roy class to portland and shadows the jail blazers. I would throw George Karl in that mix as well and Gregg Pop but he ain’t leaving the spurs. These guys have a sense of coaching the pieces he has to win
Characteristics of my preferred coach
Someone open, flexible, and opportunistic on offense and with rosters.
Someone fundamental and solid on stressing defensive persistence over scrap.
Someone who will hold the players accountable in practice and the locker room and stand up for them and take the blame in the media.
coach that would fit best with portland!
Jerry Sloan. He would make LMA into an even bigger star then he already is, and would refine one of our gaurds into a star point.
Haven't really thought about it much lately
But I think Monty was a great assistant. I would really like to see something like a coaching staff with Budenholzer/Monty/Ron Adams on it. Would be pretty impossible though seeing as they would all want to be the head coach. That would be one great team though.
I want a coach that gets his team to win a LOT of games
that’s my number one priority . . . . .
put a body on 'em
I still want what I wanted before we signed Nate.
Lionel Hollins. The problem is it’s going to be harder to get him now.
Loud pipes save lives!
Bad knees break hearts!
Time for an exorcism.
at 1st any name that does not begin with Nate!!!!!
by Danvegas on Feb 23, 2012 7:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Nvm, nate mcmillan aside...
somebody young and an assistant. I feel that NBA coaches get too many chances in general. There’s not enough turnover in the coaching position. If you’re .500 in the nba you can have a job for life(lenny wilkens, del negro, george karl, etc….).
Larry Bird if he wanted to coach again.
"There’s not enough turnover in the coaching position."
I agree.
“Larry Bird if he wanted to coach again.”
Rick Carlisle did the Xs & Os for Larry Bird.
I dont understand
why that is either. IMO to be a good GM is just to be good at sales. You have a vision for what you want, you have a scouting crew to find those guys for you. Then you just need to sell other GMs on trading you their guys. Of course there is more to it then that, but not enough to warrant the same like 45 or less guys in those roles over the last 2 decades.
I know you're a fan of Fratello since you often mention him...
and, I’m open to the idea. I’m curious, just what do you see in him that you don’t see in Nate? His career stats aren’t terrific. Bear in mind that I’d almost settle for Mo Cheeks again at this point….
Mike Fratello is a great defensive coach, knows his Xs & Os, and will lower the number of possessions.
If some team hires Fratello, it should get from him what the Philadelphia 76ers have got from Doug Collins.
I am sold.
And, since Chad B. is saying that the Blazers are looking at all options to improve the team, one would hope that includes giving Nate the old heave ho. Of course, I’d be absolutely shocked (and delighted) if that happened this season, and only a little less shocked (but still delighted) if it happens before his contract is up. Even then, it seems like we’re stuck with “Sarge” indefinitely…

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