FINAL: Portland Trail Blazers 97, Atlanta Hawks 77
by Timmay! on Feb 18, 2012 9:15 PM PST
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PrintFresh off a tough loss, the Portland Trail Blazers came out with energy, defense, rebounding, and LaMarcus Aldridge, leaving the Atlanta Hawks in the dust for a 20 point victory. The Hawks fell behind by double digits early, and never truly put up a challenge afterward.
The Blazers were led by Aldridge (19 points, 10 rebounds) and Nicolas Batum (22 points, 8 rebounds), with strong support from Wesley Matthews (13 points, 2 steals) and the one-and-only Raymond Felton (bouncing back with 14 points and 8 assists). Portland's 50-27 rebounding edge made all the difference.
In the first quarter, the Blazers and Hawks enjoyed a shootout, making 65% and 67% of their shots, respectively. Every Blazer starter played well, each scoring 4 or more points and led by Nicolas Batum. The Blazers led by 8 after one.
The Hawks struggled to keep up in the second as the hot shooting abated. Behind Batum and Aldridge, the Blazers held off every run, and kept trying to increase the lead. Suddenly, after struggling all week, the Blazers looked like a rebounding juggernaut. A late run, capped by a Felton floater just before the halftime buzzer, left the Blazers with a 15 point lead.
The second half began with more Blazer goodness. LaMarcus looked like he hadn't missed a game, including a sweet up-and-under move to leave the Hawks frozen for a layup. The Hawks called time when the deficit reached 19. They made another run, but just like the others, the Blazers fought right back. The last half of the quarter involved a lot of trading buckets, and an eventual 16 point Blazer lead.
Two Blazer Technical Fouls opened the fourth quarter, on Crash and Wesley. This helped the Hawks close the gap a little, only to watch Wesley Matthews help the Blazers hold up the lead. With 5 minutes left, Batum knocked down a three, leaving the Blazers with a 22 point lead and extended garbage time. Elliot Williams enjoyed a few points and cheers, and everyone went home happy. Except the Hawks.
Check out the box score, then stay tuned for Dave's recap and Ben's media row report. We all get a night off, then the Blazers visit the Lakers for a game on TNT. -- Tim
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But they're thinking about Chalupas.
So, Taco Bell wins, regardless.
by manfredi on Feb 18, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can see the ESPN headline for this game now:
“Babbitt, Blazers Come up Short on Their Quest for Chalupas”
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
gringo misses late three, can't take fans south of the border
it has to be vaguely racist to be on espn these days
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BLAZERS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAZERS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAZERS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAZERS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LaMarcus All-Stardridge - 2012 All-Star Reserve!!!!
THE LAMONSTER ERA IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know it was garbage time
but Elliot needs more minutes during non-garbage time.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
by HailOden! on Feb 18, 2012 9:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
how good is he, really?
inquiring minds….
by damonrayhymer on Feb 18, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
He's shown some amazing flashes
and I’m not just talking about the athletic dunks and blocks. I really wanna see what this kid could do as, say, a third guard.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
third guard?
why would we have invested in a broken player (as we knew he was), if he didn’t have tremendous upsiide, better than, say, a third guard.
yes, I realize that you did not draft him.
by damonrayhymer on Feb 18, 2012 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not saying that should absolutely be his role moving forward
He may have All-Star, All-NBA potential, or he may be a tall Nate Robinson. I’m just saying there’s only one way to find out….
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
unlike nolan smith
eliot has some actual, NBA-level basketball skills
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
I don't quite get the Smith vs Elliot thing
I want them both to do well, and while Nolan made mistakes, he did ok out there tonight.
Nolan's Best Game. He quit looking to shoot and looked to set up other players.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
As a soon as a point guard stops looking to shoot
He is useless.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 18, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
As soon as the first thing he does is look to shoot, he isn't a PG. That was Nolan's problem.
Tonight he took 2 good shots, instead 4 bad shots, and got 2 assists and 3 rebounds in 15 minutes. A good game for him as a PG, unlike whatever it was that he thought he was during in previous games.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Nolan did some good things tonight...
…played good defense, hit a couple shots, made his free throws. Sure he got pressured a couple times but I thought he looked pretty decent.
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
And killing it on both ends the whole time.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Feb 18, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
No.
#52--------I believe in Greg Oden
by annthefan on Feb 18, 2012 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
boy
people here sure dont know how to take a joke
PHILLY!
by CleBlazer on Feb 18, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Paul Allen may have had a talk with someone...
He stood to applaud Nick after the 33 pt 9 3pt game.
I saw a quick Tweet on my gamecast
That said he would have an article with an interview with nate about his job security.
Quick is such a drama queen
I bet he Tweets in hushed tones
by manfredi on Feb 18, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd say he looks like Scottie Pippen out there
But he’s shooting 38% from three… Maybe a cross between Pippen and Allen Houston, and Michael Cooper.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Feb 18, 2012 9:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
yeah that works better than pippen.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
If Ray can do this night in and night out we are an above average team
the problem is that I don’t know if he can. Although there was a time that Miller kinda broke out and performed under Nate as well.
!!!o o!!!
OMG I just jizzed in my France
OMGrandpa
Nope.
The GW T was for the last play of the 3rd.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Feb 18, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
I just can't figure out this team
they may be bi-polar….
kObe iS thE aNtiChRiSt
by Brendan Holladay on Feb 18, 2012 9:20 PM PST reply actions
The guards are bi-polar.
Everyone is is the same old Blazers we’re used to.
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(((o)))
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Inconsistent I can handle...
…more so than flat out bad.
Crawford? Inconsistent.
Mathews? Inconsistent.
Felton? Flat out bad.
Would love to see some more inconsistency from Felton. That would imply an occasional good game.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 18, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
I just think the team as a whole isn't that good
there are talented players on this team, but they only look good when their talent is displayed best. in other words, when their outside shots fall…
kObe iS thE aNtiChRiSt
by Brendan Holladay on Feb 19, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
When the guards perform the team wins
some rebounding doesn’t hurt either.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
What's there to figure out?
Like the past three Portland teams, this year’s Trail Blazers are simply one-and-done postseason fodder.
This is easy diagnosis y’all.
I liked most of what I saw from Nolan tonight.
Thought he earned his time out there.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
yeah, starting to look better on the floor.
a few rookie mistakes, but nothing too horrible
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
he didnt do anything in the minutes he was given
and for one of the first times this season, nate didn’t play favorites and leave him in.
PHILLY!
Ray was playing well tonight
No need to bench him in favor of Crawford
Some people suggested he might be sick
He just didn’t look good. Plus, Nic and Wes were handling SG duties pretty well, Felton did his job and then some, and Nolan didn’t hurt us, so he wasn’t needed.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
this is something i was curious about
watched the game at a bar, and wasnt fully watching but his line looks just terrible, like he was hurt:
Jamal Crawford, G 13 0-1 0-1 0-0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 +1 0
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
Follow my twitter @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.
Very limited minutes but still no stats to speak of.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
its limited
but its not 5min limited, its not 3 turnovers in X (limited) time.
i mean he took 1 shot in 13 min, for crawford, he can easily go 1-8 in that same time period, or even worse.
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
Follow my twitter @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.
Since he's started, this has been the Batum we've waited for.
And he’s only going to get better.
Dre ain't got no love for these pros
Batum started playing more aggressively (and better) right after they refused to extend him
As I said, that was the best thing that could happen for Batum and the Blazers. Nic’s finally got the message. There had been too much of the “Nic is untradeable” and “Nic is a big part of our future” crap constantly coming from the Blazers for years. This kid needs to be pushed – a lot – until aggressiveness becomes his learned nature, since it isn’t his natural nature. Nate knows it too. That’s why he stays on him constantly – which upsets Blazers fans – but it is absolutely the right way to develop Batum.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
McVillan with the tough love
Could be that is the case. I’m not 100% sold on it – but it could be. For what it’s worth – it hasn’t seemed to hurt Batum’s play.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 18, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
agreed. I'm not sure we see this much improvement
if they had just extended him.
FWIW
Batum in Feb:
18.3 ppg, 1.9 SPG, 1.5 BPG, 3.9 RPG, 48.6% FG, 40.8% 3pFG, 83.3% FT, 33 MPG
Deadline to extend was what, January 25th? 26th?.
he has been doing excellent since.
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
Follow my twitter @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.
I disagree
I think the confidence he got from playing in France has translated well over to this season. He also has been playing professional ball for longer than most of the guys sitting around (eating cupcakes lolrayfelton) so he has a fitness edge over much of the teams he’s playing against. Also seems to have better stamina in general to begin with, but what I’m most impressed with that seems to be coming with his improved confidence is how much more aggressive he is- driving to the hoop, snagging rebounds and throwing elbows, stuff like that.
I always thought he would be a great player if only he would be more aggressive and impose his will on the opponent which I was afraid was something that was inherent in his personality and not something he could change or improved in his game. I’m elated to find out I was wrong on that count and now finally believe he’s essential to our future with Aldridge as well.
It's weird how much my opinion on the Blazers has changed in the last couple years
I had zero faith that Aldridge would ever be an All-Star after seeing him get pushed around by bigger more physical forwards (Scola in that postseason disaster completely neutralized him) and I was wrong with him. After Brandon was done last year, I was excited about Aldridge but angry with Nic’s inconsistency, so I was glad for the trade that brought Crash to town so Batum would sit on the bench.
Now I’m kind of hoping my frustration I get with Wes’ inability to finish and consistency with shooting will be wrong!
He didn't show this aggressiveness consistently until after the extension was denied.
Immediately after the extension deadline passed I wrote that it was the best thing that could happen to Batum and the Blazers. That it was a win-win for both because Batum would become more aggressive when he realized that was the only way he would get a big contract offer sheet. The Blazers will gladly pay him more, if he plays the way he has since the extension was denied. They just want Batum playing at his potential. So it’s a win for both.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
missing the game winner against OKC might have helped too
he was still trying to finesse stuff in the paint even after that. Aldridge going down for 3 games as well. He started throwing down right around this 3 game stretch…playing like the #1 in Aldridge’s absence.
And that's what I'm seeing as well
Just like Aldridge started playing at All-Star levels and realizing his true talent after Roy went down, Batum did the same when he played in France as a #1 option and is finally realizing with more consistent minutes that he can be close to option #1 for us as well.
I don't see him as anything near a #1 honestly
He still has to become a decent #2…or #3. I’m not even sure I see that yet on an elite team. He was about all we had when LMA went down though and he stepped up.
Also, 6 minutes per game shouldn’t be the difference between #2 option and inconsistent bench guy. If that’s a problem for him he’ll need to figure that out. He had chances earlier in the season to prove he could do this and didn’t.
I just hope he keeps it up.
Absolutely. And remember Nate jumped on him for not dunking the ball to get a foul.
And fans howled at Nate for picking on him. It was absolutely the right thing to do. Remember Nate criticizing him for not taking the shot in overtime? Same thing. Some day Nic will look back and credit Nate for pushing him to achieve his potential.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
completely agree
Nico isn’t the type of player that needs sheltered. If it takes Nate pushing Nic to get him to that next level then so be it.
No way
He didn’t get the minutes he deserved until after the extension was denied. I do agree, however, that him being an RFA is actually great for both sides because we can let the market set the value on him. I wonder if some team that’s hovering near the salary floor might throw some ginormous Wesley-type deal at him, though? That freaks me out a bit, especially if Crash doesn’t opt out of his deal like we are all expecting him to.
He was getting 24 minutes a game. If you can't be aggressive in 24 minutes
then you just don’t get it. Quit blaming Nate for the faults of the players. He doesn’t miss their shots or tie them to the floor so they can’t rebound. He never told Nic not to take the ball to the basket (just the opposite).
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
I also can't quite understand how Nic needs to be starting to turn it up a notch
It’s one thing about Nic that bothers me. I wonder if it’s something about his psyche.
That being said, if starting him gives us this every night, I won’t look back.
He still disappears to the corner
in the 4th quarter though.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
that's on Nic not working as hard to get open late in the game
the first half he’s cutting aggressively and finding ways to get in position to score. He slows down with that in the second half.
Could easily be that he needs to get used to playing with higher usage and more minutes though. Running down a little late in the game maybe.
I'm sorry but that is ridiculous.
Do they only listen to Nate in the 4th????
Nate says...
In the fourth quarter don’t touch the ball and go hide in the corner. And whatever you do don’t crash those boards Nic. Right.
"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."
by Vorlauf on Feb 19, 2012 5:31 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
This is a discredit to Batum
Batum’s effort has been consistent all season. He was a top 10 SF in terms of efficiency as a bench player – and to his credit – has been even better as a starter.
But the intangibles – the transition dunks, rebounding, defense, hustle plays – those have been there all season.
Batum’s intangibles often go unappreciated – but they have been there regardless.
What we are learning about Batum now is that he thrives in a higher leverage role. Run sets that call for him to camp out in the corner, and he will disappear from the offense. Run sets with Batum handling the ball on the strong side, and his perceived involvement goes up.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 18, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
10, 15, 6, 15,12, 2, 12, 11, 9, 14, 7, 29, 19, 0, 9, 14, 0, 16, 14
His blocks have been there all season, but he also has floated around at times when not picking his moments. He’d disappear to the corner for entire halves. He’s pulled two Felton’s in scoring this season while coming off the bench too.
I’d just like to see some consistency, and I’d like to know he can be consistent regardless of his role on the team. We probably wouldn’t be thrilled if we traded for a player who basically said he’ll only play great when he’s starting, and I expect the same from our current players.
But like I’ve said a few times, I’m thrilled at his progress, and if it takes starting to get him to be consistent, I’ll happily take it.
Look at his splits
The argument that he is producing more is only a function of minutes – not rate.
Batum hasn’t been perfect – but the idea that he is playing harder as a starter simply isn’t true.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 19, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
If by that you mean he still floats a lot in the second half, I agree
Otherwise we’ll have to disagree for now.
Disagreement on performance as a starter vs. reseerve?
This is a quantitative issue, rather than a perception issue. Numbers tell the story.
“Floating”, on the other hand, is an arguable point.
However, to make the argument that Batum is not getting himself involved in plays requires an assumption that Batum has a choice in the matter. However, in McMillan’s offense, the weakside “floater” is by design, and more often than not, the weakside is not directly involved in a set – not when Crawford, Mathews or Wallace are handling the ball at the top of the key.
Batum does pass up some shots – but almost always in favor of a more open shot by a teammate. However, I think Batum is too unselfish in many of these instances and should attack the defense more directly more often
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Feb 19, 2012 3:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don't think starting has been the difference.
He’s only started 3 games since the extension deadline and 1 game prior to the deadline. But as I showed below he has attempted 48% more shots in only 22% more minutes since the extension deadline. He has simply become more aggressive shooting.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
I think your objectivity might be compromised..
Immediately after the extension deadline passed I wrote that it was the best thing that could happen to Batum and the Blazers
So you were sure of the future then and now you are convinced of your foresight…. I’m not saying your wrong just saying that maybe backing up your claim with numbers would be more convincing than saying “I called it”.
made this essentially a contract year for Nic
not really much of a stretch. Not a bad choice for the FO either unless Nic suddenly becomes some transcendent superstar. If he continues playing like this he might get a couple more mil per year. He hadn’t proven that he could though so we let the market set the price.
Ok here's numbers.
Tossing out one game when he played 9 minutes
Prior to the extension deadline:
Average Minutes 25.8
Average Shot Attempts 8.41
Points 11.4
After extension deadline
Average Minutes 31.6
Average Shot Attempts 12.45
Points 17.4
So since the extension deadline he has averaged 22% more minutes (because he has played better) but he has attempted 48% more shots and scored 53% more points. i.e. he has been much more aggressive taking shots since the extension deadline.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 10:57 PM PST up reply actions
yup
i posted Feb #s up there too, clearly he has been more aggressive an all around better post deadline.
Rip City Baby...People have no idea what is coming.
Follow my twitter @PDXBlazersFTW. Lots of random Blazer Posts from links I find around the blogosphere.
Thanks.
The numbers certainly back up you claim. I hope I didn’t come off as a jerk above. I wasn’t meaning to.
No harm, no foul.
There’s no fun in making predictions in place like this if you can’t enjoy getting a few of them right – as long as you admit when you get them wrong too. I get plenty wrong.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Your statistics don't take into account touches
People seem quick to complain about Nic not being involved in games where he was playing 17 minutes a game alongside Jamal Crawford who was never passing him the ball. And where Nic never had any plays called for him. Now he’s playing 35, with guys who are sharing the ball, and Nate’s calling plays for him off screens. You see those plays? Those are called by the coach, Batum does get to pick when he gets to run those. Big surprise he’s producing more now.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Feb 19, 2012 11:29 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Plus, you have not included Per
Which would be the best indication of whether your claim was true. The Pers haven’t changed much, which would point to the reason being the six more minutes a game he’s playing.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Feb 19, 2012 11:37 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Except
That the team could have resigned Batum for four years at 10 million a year a month ago. That isn’t going to happen now. Who knows what one of these (30) teams might offer for Batum. Memphis offered Rudy Gay 5 years 84 million when he was showing similar promise, now the team allows that market to set the price, and may have to match one if those offers.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Feb 19, 2012 11:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
There is no known confirmation on the number Batum's camp was asking for.
It’s all speculation. I’d heard rumors above 10 per.
I believe the market has changed considerably since Rudy Gay signed that contract...
…and letting the market set Nico’s value may be the right move to wrap him up long term at the right money. I don’t see anyone offering him $15mil a year in the current CBA.
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
Ray's form looked better tonight
pray it continues
if i have to sacrifice a chicken to make this so, I will.
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
I will sacrifice jenstcy to make it so
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
by HailOden! on Feb 18, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
he generally has horrible rotation on the ball
have you seen his misses? they all bounce off the rim and go like 5’ above it before coming off. it looked better tonight. somewhat.
PHILLY!
It's always been fun to see how many points LMA or Brandon could score. I even loved watch to see how many blocks and dunks Greg could get.
I can honestly say that I love watching to see what Batum is going to do. On the fast break I love how he tries to block everything. Then every now and then he dunks the ball or does some play that I never knew he could do.
Agree
Most exciting.
by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Feb 18, 2012 9:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I want roddy beaubois
He’s stuck behind 4 people on the bench in dallas, so he shouldn’t be that difficult to get
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
not a bad play
wonder what Dallas is looking for.
by damonrayhymer on Feb 18, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
Gerald for marion & beaubois.
Gerald opts out this year so they can go after dwight & deron. then we find someone who wants marion
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
I posted it in the trade drawer
with us sending marion to the clips for Mo Williams, but there’s probably plenty of places you can send Marion
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
Identify core, seems you just did,
and maneuver for play-making talent..
Brandon’s ability to close is not likely to be found in the middle of the first round.
by damonrayhymer on Feb 18, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
yup, i would also keep wessy if possible
but i can be coaxed into trading him if we’re getting good return.
PHILLY!
Every Blazer with a positive +/-
Me likey!
Porter, Drexler, Kersey, Williams, Duckworth. The greatest starting 5 ever.
nic has sole control of the 5th spot in PER among SFs
only ones above him: lbj, KD, melo, gallo.
below him: pierce, granger, iggy,
PHILLY!
PER is essentially efficiency
aka production per minute. nic has the lowest in the list i mentioned.
this hasn’t taken into account tonight’s game: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?position=sf&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2fstatistics%3fposition%3dsf
PHILLY!
They have a list of rookies as well
but you have o play more than 6.09 per game so n smith and e will don’t qualify
I think he's #5 in the whole league...
or was it #7?? I don’t know, it’s high though.
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
yeah, #5 in the NBA for PER...just checked.
that is awesome!
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
i think the way hollinger defines it
15 = league avg.
15+ = starter
20+ = all star
25+ = superstar
PHILLY!
30+ for a full season is a top 15 all-time performance
Fwiw, LeBron is on pace to break Wilt’s record this season
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
here we go
wiki has the reference guide:
Hollinger has set up PER so that the league average, every season, is 15.00, which produces sort of a handy reference guide:
A Year For the Ages: 35.0
Runaway MVP Candidate: 30.0
Strong MVP Candidate: 27.5
Weak MVP Candidate: 25.0
Bona fide All-Star: 22.5
Borderline All-Star: 20.0
Solid 2nd option: 18.0
3rd Banana: 16.5
Pretty good player: 15.0
In the rotation: 13.0
Scrounging for minutes: 11.0
Definitely renting: 9.0
The Next Stop: DLeague 5.0
PHILLY!
35 would be an insane season
But probably not as insane as 80 in a quarter during a playoff game.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
FELTONSANITY
Are you ready for it?
by blazerbacker on Feb 18, 2012 9:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
now that would be actually comparable to tebow
won in college, usually looks awful at nearly every basketball skill, finds a way to win?
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
and Derek Fisher is even lower than Blake! Felton 52, Blake 54, Fisher 57.
Maybe Fisher is just OLD..and was busy with lock out negotiations…so there is that..
Fisher has been near the bottom for a few years now
but he always seemed to score in clutch when it mattered
Have to acknowledge that Ray played a good game tonight.
He needs to play a bunch more to convince me he should still be a Blazer after March 15, but he played a good game tonight.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 18, 2012 9:56 PM PST reply actions
yeah Ray gets props tonight
that was the type of game I was hoping to see from him.
I was hopeful he'd have a better game tonight
Partially because Ray has pride, and partially because it would be hard to be any worse.
It wasn't pride
It was a heart to heart about what the bottom line is for Felton. I feel MacMillan was as concerned about Felton’s conditioning as the fans suspected. So he told him: prove to me you are in shape by out-hustling everyone. And if he didn’t prove it then he would be riding pine and being worked into shape by the trainers.
That's what you saw from Felton tonight
Watch how quickly he returned to the bench when the whistle blew for timeouts. He was going to do the little things and new MacMillan would notice.
Let's face it
It may not be long before Nico is this team’s BEST player.
I would be happy seeing them both make the all-star team during the same year.
They certainly have the skill set to do so.
I think LMA will be the team's best player
But having two studs would be awesome. Nico put up all-star numbers tonight. I hope he keeps doing it.
"Brandon Roy has done this before."
I don't know about that....
he’s got get a lot more mature. I wish he and LA had brandon’s mindset…they would both be all-stars if that was so…
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
True, but
20, 8, 3 & 3 are gonna be pretty damn good numbers here soon enough.
LAL will be on a back to back...the Blazers will be off tomorrow.
So maybe the Blazers will win. I bet the Blazers will win against San Antonio..they will also be on a back to back. In Utah the night before.
San Antonio is rolling
if we beat them that would be amazing, but it’ll be really tough. especially on the second night of a back-to-back.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
manu got hurt again, unfortunately...but they have won 10 in a row...amazing...
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
they're used to not having manu, so it shouldn't be too horrible for them.
If Splitter’s also out, now that might take more adjusting. but popovich is a genius, so they’ll figure it out.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
I'm wary to get too excited
But this game really impressed me. A lot of things we did tonight were really good, and the kind of things we can do consistently.
Felton looked awesome, I don’t know if he’ll keep it up, but this is what I had in mind when we got him. He did a fantastic job of seeing the tempo, bothering ball handlers, and sucking in the defense.
Batum is looking great. His rebounding is awesome.
LMA is still being LMA.
Gerald’s role is becoming more defined. It’s becoming clear now that he is no longer an all-star, which is sad because his first and only appearance was only two years ago. He is becoming just a nasty guy who intimidates, which is definitely helpful.
Wesley looks a lot more comfortable coming off the bench. He was able to really set the tone in that second quarter.
Nolan looked comfortable, and I thought he did a solid job. If he makes a mistake, he always busts his butt to make up for it, and I like that.
GO BLAZERS
"Brandon Roy has done this before."
I'm hopeful about Nolan as well
A decent back up PG would be awesome. It seems he didn’t rush into a stupid mistake trying to negate the first one. That helps.
by JeffePortland on Feb 18, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
We could just as easily have gone 3 - 0 in this stretch
even with Aldridge’s injury. Should have squashed the Wizards and closed out the Clippers. The guys keep saying they’re better than their record. The close losses might actually support that.
yeah...the media always points that out when losing teams come to town..
yeah…but they lost 19 of those games by less than 5….who cares…closing to win is what is important.
nope.
Losses to poor teams mean that the Portland Trail Blazers are not an excellent team. We lack talent in the back court. Our front court is very good, and we have some very nice role players, but our problems are more pronounced w/ the close losses. The fact that no one is close to as good as Brandon once was, and that he meant winning, as opposed to the opposite, I mean come on, it is not that hard to see..
by damonrayhymer on Feb 18, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
we're not worse than the Wizards
and we’ve been dragging around an anchor of a back court. If Ray, Wes and Jamal can play half decent we are definitely a better team than we’ve been. Jury is still out on whether they can though.
Even elite teams lose to terrible teams. Especially this season. There are also 30 teams this season without Brandon Roy.
If the back court is capable of playing more like they did tonight against a good team it really isn’t a stretch to see what could’ve been a 5 point swing in a lot of our close losses.
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