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Game 31 Recap: Portland Trail Blazers 71, Los Angeles Clippers 74

In a Nutshell

The Blazers play an amazing and energetic first half, shutting down Chris Paul and destroying the Clippers with precision shots and hustle defense. Predictably (given the circumstances) the drive started to peter out in the third period and completely collapsed in the fourth, not from lack of heart but from lack of energy. The Blazers struggled to field a serviceable big man or a competent point guard in the final period and Chris Paul brought the Clippers all the way back against a team that had simply run out of steam.

Game Flow

The first period of this game was brilliant. No, it was astonishing. Either way, it was most improbable given the circumstances. On their third game in three nights the Blazers dismantled the Clippers. Nicolas Batum fired like a machine gun, on target every time. Wesley Matthews rode shotgun and hit his jumpers too. It was like the basketball gods patted both of them on the head and said, "You go have fun now." The other Blazers supported the offensive drenching by playing the most heart-on-sleeve, all-out defense we've seen in forever. They were on the boards, not always successfully but they battled. They were all over the floor for loose balls. They forced turnovers and ran. The Clippers were stationary pins and the Blazers were the bowling ball. Before L.A. knew what hit them Portland was up 7 at the quarter, 27-20.

Portland's bench spread around the scoring with considerably less success in the second period but they kept the ball moving on offense, making the Clippers defend honestly. The effort seemed to sap the life out of the Clips, as they wilted even further under Portland's strong defensive swipes. Every once in a while they'd get free for a layup but other than that it was missed jumpers, turnovers, and watching Portland run circles around them. The lead ballooned to 15 with 3 minutes left in the period but came back to 11 at the break. Portland led 43-32 at the half while the Clippers walked off the floor to the strains of the TNT crew explaining how tired they were because of their 3 games in 4 nights schedule. (By the way, TNT would also remind folks how the Clips were missing Chauncey Billups for this game. Yes, they mentioned Aldridge's absence a couple times too but the slant on these things is funny.)

L.A. futzed around at the beginning of the third period as well, settling for poor Randy Foye-based possessions as the Blazers netted a quick 7 to push the lead to 18. Then the Clippers determined to go through Blake Griffin. They pounded it to him and he responded. This, in turn, opened up Foye's shots and he actually hit a couple. Portland responded with Jamal Crawford who hit a series of acrobatic jumpers and drive finishes in the period. Still, it was hard to ignore Portland's deteriorating shot selection, ball and player movement, and interior defense. The bigs started picking up fouls instead of great plays. Shoving replaced moving feet. Jumpers off of isolation moves or sloppy picks took the place of the incisive passing of the first half. The Clippers cut the lead to 8 by the end of the third, 60-52.

In the fourth period everything fell apart. The issues were myriad. Kurt Thomas was playing like something you'd scrape off your shoe but Marcus Camby was just as tired and carrying fouls to boot. The Blazers had to play one or the other, else they'd field a lineup where Gerald Wallace played center. This left a massive hole in the middle, complicated rebounding, and made the offense untenable...4-on-5. Every time one of the bigs touched the rock on the offensive end or even got near a play disaster ensued. But what are you going to do? Similarly Raymond Felton was playing poorly but pulling him for the better-producing (and defending) Wesley Matthews and Jamal Crawford left the Blazers prey to turnovers. Chris Paul feasted on steals until Felton returned. Then the Clippers feasted on missed shots. Crawford kept the Blazers alive for a while with more made one-on-one shots but that well ran dry as he tired and the Clippers started collapsing on him. What was he to do, though? He has a hard time running the offense under pressure when everybody is alert. With the entire team standing around save the guy who was offering him a half-hearted pick he had no choice but to try and score enough to keep his team ahead. As jumper after jumper missed and layup after layup rolled off the rim the Clippers got progressively closer. The Blazers couldn't stop Paul's step-back jumper. When they did manage to contain him a simple pass found an outside shooter open. L.A. pulled ahead at the 3:50 mark on a Mo Williams three and never looked back. The Clippers win, 74-71.

Take-Away Points

Say what you want about Portland's structure and execution. Plenty of flaws were evident in that fourth period, not only in the way they played but the way the roster has been built. Nevertheless he real enemy there was fatigue. Had they been better rested they would have pushed past those late-game flaws, made fewer mistakes and covered better for the ones they did make, and would have finished this game and the Clips. As it was the Blazers could do nothing. Nobody could have saved them from that period except Aldridge rising like a Phoenix from the not-suited list. Failing that, the slow-down was heralded from the moment this game tipped. The thing to concentrate on here is the heart they displayed early and the 18-point lead they built, not the inevitable slip in the 11th and 12th quarters played in 50 hours, real time.

Also of note: how pained the Blazers looked to have put in all that effort and lost at the end. It was a combination of agony and being utterly spent. As we said, their hearts were on their sleeves tonight. But you know, that's all you can ask. A win would have been improbable. They didn't get blown out, they threw their punches, they just got clipped in the last round. Everybody should be fine with that. This was the best ugly game, the best 18-point lead given up, the best end of a back-to-back-to-back that could be hoped for. Give these guys a serious ovation not only for giving their all, but for not being satisfied with a loss or the easy way out.

Individual Notes

LaMarcus Aldridge did not play tonight. Do not forget the forest for the trees.

Gerald Wallace looked tired, making a few nice defensive plays but finishing low at the rim and missing his jumper. He did battle for boards when it counted but he couldn't come up with his usual rip-aways. He had but 7 points on 2-7 shooting with 4 assists and 3 rebounds in 43 minutes. An energy guy without energy is just a guy.

Nicolas Batum, on the other hand, fired 8-16, 2-4 from distance, for 19 points with 6 rebounds. His defense was energetic and profound. He didn't touch the ball in the latter stages of the game. I would have loved to see him make a miracle shot or two that Crawford missed. On the other hand NOBODY was moving to get the ball in that fourth quarter including Batum. Everybody was standing with a defender planted near. That makes those spectacular plays hard to set up, let alone execute.

Marcus Camby had 6 rebounds and 4 assists in 22 minutes but also had 5 personal fouls. He's picking his spots anyway, more so in this game. Even with the short minutes this schedule has to be killing him.

Hats off to Wesley Matthews who hit jumpers early, played defense late, and had the presence of mind to (what looked like) intentionally miss the second of two free throws with 5 seconds left in the game and the Blazers down by 3, then rebound his own miss as others reached for it at the side of the key, then get to the three point arc. Sadly he picked up his dribble, had no outlet, had no timeouts, and had to loft a horrible attempt over smothering arms which, to his credit, hit the bracket before bouncing into oblivion along with Portland's hope of keeping this game alive. On the other hand, I don't think anyone wanted to see this game go into overtime...at least not in the big picture. 6-13 shooting, 2-5 from distance, 5 rebounds, 2 steals, 15 points.

What happened to Raymond Felton? You'd think at least by dumb luck he'd come out with more good games than this. But this one was an eyesore. 0-7 shooting, 0 points, 2 assists, 5 turnovers in 24 minutes. And somebody else had to guard Chris Paul when he was on the floor. The Blazers played him as little as possible and still suffered for it. In an even bigger cosmic joke they still suffered without him in that fourth period too.

Jamal Crawford had 19 off the bench on 7-18 shooting. That shooting percentage looked a lot better before the last four minutes of the game too. He kept the Blazers in the game with his second-half scoring. He kept the Blazers from winning the game with his late misses. But cruelly, he was really the only one who could do anything. Blame him for missing if you wish but his teammates did nothing to take the ball out of his hands, even if he had the instinct to give it up. He was the only one with enough energy and handles to get a shot as the fourth quarter progressed. Was some of that his own drive to dominate the ball? Sure...we all rely on instinct when tired and pressed. But again...nobody else even moved to take the ball. I don't blame him for the period any more than I blame a game-show contestant for picking the wrong door when the host says, "You can choose between Door #1 and...that's all. Just Door #1. What's your pick?" Door #1 was a zonk tonight. But at least Crawford tried.

We shouldn't even talk about how Kurt Thomas played on the offensive end in that fourth period. He was pretty much [chicken]-blocking scoring attempts with his ill-timed screens or standing near the key, keeping an extra defender in the way of potential scorers. He did have 6 rebounds and 2 blocks in 26 minutes.

Craig Smith had 3 rebounds in 14 minutes. Elliot Williams had 3 rebounds and a nice dunk in 8 minutes...a little bit of a heady shift for him.

Fun With Numbers

Every number in this game should be thrown out. 74-71 will tell you that this was an abnormal evening. Portland shot well from distance again, hitting 6-14 from the arc for 43%. Ironically that's better than either team fired from the field overall, Portland averaging 38%, Los Angeles 38.5%.

Also Chris Paul had but 3 assists and 13 points. The Blazers did a good job on him. Sadly those points came when it counted.

Final Thoughts

I want to say, "Thank goodness that brutal stretch is over" but like Schedule of the Living Dead the calendar brings Atlanta on Saturday, the Lakers in L.A. on Monday, and red hot San Antonio back home on Tuesday. Ugh. At least the All-Star break follows. None too soon, either.

Clips Nation will give you the Clippers' side of this ugliness.

Clippers vs Trail Blazers boxscore

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Felton is so fat he needs a ladder to climb out of his cereal bowl

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 16, 2012 11:48 PM PST reply actions  

(*You’re Doing It Wrong)

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 17, 2012 12:55 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

so fat he has a lifeguard for his cereal bowl

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 17, 2012 1:44 AM PST up reply actions  

fail

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 17, 2012 1:45 AM PST up reply actions  

and yea not shocked we lose when we have Gerald Wallace, Kurt Thomas and Craig Smith

attempting to guard Blake Griffin.

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 16, 2012 11:50 PM PST reply actions  

The Blazers played defense

FAR better than I imagined they would tonight. BRAVO for that. Standing ovation.

—Dave

by Dave on Feb 16, 2012 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Forsure they gave it their all

its just that we cant expect Gerald Wallace to guard Blake Griffin. And definetly not Kurt Thomas. The effort was there, the results were not

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 16, 2012 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

A second point guard? Please, I'd be happy with one.

"Per John Hollingers twitter - Over the final 12:45 of today's game, Brandon Roy's PER was 84.98" GM 4 vs Mavs

by blazinagain on Feb 17, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

^THIS

LaMarcus All-Stardridge - 2012 All-Star Reserve!!!!
THE LAMONSTER ERA IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by LaMarvelous on Feb 17, 2012 12:13 AM PST up reply actions  

x1000.

Especially given the B2B2B the D was excellent. Batum blocking shots at the rim, Wallace fighting Griff as much as he can, Camby and Wes diving on the floor for loose balls. A++ effort on that side of the court.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 12:39 AM PST up reply actions  

no LMA hurt for sure.

but what option was there? put Batum on him?

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 17, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

We need to make a decision

Push all in and go for nash, or get younger and try to get an extra pick – grab Kendall Marshall and Meyers Leonard in the draft. Either one’s fine, but stop just limping along.

by ozqb3 on Feb 16, 2012 11:55 PM PST reply actions  

my vote is for cashing out

get younger, play the younger guys, and try to trade for another lottery pick.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 17, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope - he's Fool's Gold for us

Trading worthwhile pieces to get him on a half season loan will just extend the mediocrity. Or perhaps make us worse next year is he leaves.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 17, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

The Blazers don't seem to have any trouble keeping players.

The problem has been getting them here in the first place. I just think the Suns organization is too classy to trade Nash unless he asks for it.

Nash is not fools gold. Nash is just what this team needs. You know how you like it when Camby, Wesley and Wallace seem to dive for every loose ball? That is Steve Nash! Nash is undeniably a top-10 toughest player.

Nash is a first ballot Hall-of-Fame player. You don’t want this guy? Are you freaking kidding me?

by Oden Mad, Oden Smash! on Feb 17, 2012 1:02 AM PST up reply actions  

In a vacuum sure, he's a huge positive

The question is what it takes to get him (if it’s even possible as PHX does not seem interested in rebuilding) and how long can he play at a high level / if PDX can retain him for any significant time if we do aquire him.

We have 1.5 players who look like long term keepers, sacrificing the .5 for a short term gain, may be short sided.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:17 AM PST up reply actions  

There's only 2 players here with a sure long term future in PDX. LA and Batum.

Trade anyone else for Nash if he will agree to re-sign this summer for 2 years. Odds are you can get him for Felton, Matthews, and Williams if you take back Josh Childress. Maybe even get him for Felton and Wallace if you take back Childress. In any event, if you get him you can backfill this summer or trade Wallace (in the first scenario) for additional help now. We could assembly a very good team for 2 years if Nash will stay that long. We don’t have to completely blow things up to rebuild now.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 17, 2012 2:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Nash is just the latest

Chris Paul. The Suns have said they will respect Nash’s wishes. Unless he requests trade he isn’t going anywhere.

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-02-04/steve-nash-trade-steve-nash-rumors-phoenix-suns

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 17, 2012 8:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Felton 100% lost this game. I go back to the 3 rd quarter when....

we were up 14 or 16 and Felton was subbed in and proceeded to get called for an offensive foul away from the ball, allows Foye to score, throws a horrible pass to Gerald for a TO, Foye again scores. Then Felton jacks up a bad midrange jumper early in the clock and next possesion Foye scores again and the lead is 10. To me that stretch was the killer in this game.

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 16, 2012 11:57 PM PST reply actions  

What about his stellar 2:30 in the fourth?

Throws a bad pass for a turn over and steps aside as Paul hits the layups. Then he misses a point blank – at the rim layup and rhetorically clipps run out and find Williams who hits the three.
9 point swing compliments of our starting pg. Sad Sad Sad.

"Per John Hollingers twitter - Over the final 12:45 of today's game, Brandon Roy's PER was 84.98" GM 4 vs Mavs

by blazinagain on Feb 17, 2012 12:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Our PG is suppose to make the rest of his teammates better

It is sad when the only whay our starting PG can make our team better is being on the bench.

hg

by BBK on Feb 17, 2012 2:20 AM PST up reply actions  

We had this game put away up until Felton got an idiotic TO away from the ball

after which I yelled and said, great that is definetly going to start a clippers run. Those headslapper plays, Felton just makes too many of them. I understand being out of shape and not shooting well. But atleast use some BBIQ and play the right way.

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 17, 2012 12:00 AM PST reply actions  

TWSS

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 17, 2012 12:32 AM PST up reply actions  

kewl

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 17, 2012 1:26 AM PST up reply actions  

snicker snicker

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 17, 2012 1:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Not to harp on Jamal, but...

Crawford was 5 for 13 before that last 4 minutes. He was quite consistent in shooting below 40%, all night.

And,

“Everybody was standing with a defender planted near. That makes those spectacular plays hard to set up, let alone execute.”

Well that’s what happens when one guy dribbles the ball out front, and makes a move for a jump shot without ever looking at his teammates. I didn’t see a single pick and roll, screen for Batum or Wallace in the second half of the fourth quarter. it was like the BRoy days all over, but with worse results.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 17, 2012 12:08 AM PST reply actions  

Jamal was one of only 3 players that was capable of scoring. Losing this game was not even a little bit his fault.

If no one is moving that is on them.

LaMarcus All-Stardridge - 2012 All-Star Reserve!!!!
THE LAMONSTER ERA IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by LaMarvelous on Feb 17, 2012 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

They would have been moving for no reason.

Jamal was a relative bright spot, I’m just saying his scoring comes with a cost.

by raoulduke on Feb 17, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

He's a relative bright spot tonight

Sure, but didn’t produce down the stretch, so you can’t say he didn’t impact the team at all.

Nico isn’t ready at this point in his career to create shots, and perhaps never will be, but I’d still like to see if he can do something positive.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 12:45 AM PST up reply actions  

players are'nt going to move

if you never pass them the ball.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 17, 2012 12:21 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Nor are players going to see a pass if they come down the court and stand still!

It’s a vicious cycle that one.

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 17, 2012 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

That is exactly what I was seeing

Nic set himself up tof a pass almost everytime that Jamal had the ball and Jamal just ignored him. The TNT announcers was wondering why he was quiet the last half, so I started watching. There was no ball movement, everytime down the floor it was one on five with Jamal the only one touching the ball, until the last play when Wesley took it to the rim and drawed the fifth foul on Griffin with about 6 seconds to go.

hg

by BBK on Feb 17, 2012 2:27 AM PST up reply actions  

More often than not

I saw Batum go to his corner (guarded) or try and cut through traffic down low where there was no option to get him the ball. The offense was just stagnant all the way around.

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 17, 2012 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

This team has GOT to get a REAL Point Guard or just TANK the rest of the season.

There are no other options.

Get a decent PG or TANK – PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LaMarcus All-Stardridge - 2012 All-Star Reserve!!!!
THE LAMONSTER ERA IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by LaMarvelous on Feb 17, 2012 12:12 AM PST reply actions  

way to leave only the tanking option.

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 17, 2012 12:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Who's responsible

for changing how they were playing? That is, running Batum off some curl screens and letting him gangle his way to the rim? Was it just because they were tired? If they’re tired, how do you not put at least ONE not tired person in off the bench, at least to run a decent pick and roll? I just…I just….[sigh]

Felton still hasn’t figured out how to dribble or run a play. LaMarcus still hasn’t figured out how to go baseline off the block. Wes still hasn’t figured out how to protect the ball while going to the rim. As a team, we haven’t learned how to hit open shots (or even when to take them, for that matter). This team isn’t going anywhere until they can figure out their fundies.

by PaisleyCow on Feb 17, 2012 12:13 AM PST reply actions  

I mean

besides LaMarcus, is there anything any player on the Blazers does consistently well? Seriously, any of them?

by PaisleyCow on Feb 17, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Finding fault with LMA???? Seriously???? Get a grip.

LaMarcus All-Stardridge - 2012 All-Star Reserve!!!!
THE LAMONSTER ERA IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by LaMarvelous on Feb 17, 2012 12:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahhh

that was just because I’m upset. I still think it’s true, but I can’t in fairness rip him. He’s been great. The rest I think still stands.

by PaisleyCow on Feb 17, 2012 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Start over

LA and Batum blow up the rest

by spaul on Feb 17, 2012 12:15 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

^THIS

rec

LaMarcus All-Stardridge - 2012 All-Star Reserve!!!!
THE LAMONSTER ERA IS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by LaMarvelous on Feb 17, 2012 12:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Aldridge will take the first tentative steps to returning to the lineup during practice on Friday.

“If I go (Friday) and I feel great then I’m definitely going to play (Saturday),” said Aldridge. “I wanted to play (Thursday) but I don’t want to re-injure it, then I’m out longer. That’s my whole thing is coming back to quick then re-injuring it then being out longer.”

Casey

by Timmay! on Feb 17, 2012 12:27 AM PST reply actions  

strangely...

I’d like to see him miss a couple games just to ensure his health and that he plays in the All-Star game.
Doesn’t matter if the game is a facade, it’s really nice exposure for him and the team.

I don’t mind a couple more losses strung together if it meant that the Blazers were forced to make a trade…

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 17, 2012 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

felton is frustrated with lack of confidence from nate
"I know I’m struggling, but it’s hard to perform the way you know how when you know they don’t have confidence in you," Felton told CSNNW.com. "Never in my days playing basketball, have I felt like a coach wasn’t confident in my abilities. It’s hard to play knowing that.

“Coming in and out of game is throwing my rhythm off, but it’s something that I’ll get through.”

Felton is coming off of one of his worst games he said he’s had in a while. In a loss to the Los Angeles Clippers last night, Felton was 0-for-7 from the field and committed 5 turnovers in 24 minutes of play.

He said that game was difficult on so many levels and he had to reach out to somebody he trusted.

"Tonight was one of those nights where it was hard to get into the game knowing every mistake I made would be magnified," Felton said. "It’s to the point where the only person I could turn to was my mom.

"She knows how I feel and how much I’m trying to turn this thing around and she just helps me put things in perspective."

http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingblazers?Felton-frustrated-with-lack-of-confidenc=1&blockID=652842&feedID=5212

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 17, 2012 12:48 AM PST reply actions  

Man up and get your head in the game. I mean, it's only a contract year

and you’re playing for your next paycheck. You’d think that would be enough motivation to play well enough that the coach HAS to leave you in, right?

Good luck in China next year, Ray-Ray. You should still be able to call your mommy from there.

Nolan Smith - PG of the future. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Feb 17, 2012 12:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel sorry for him but ...

Given how he’s getting 30+ minutes a night this year, I dont see what else he can ask for.

An organization with a long term vision of success would see if Nolan or EWill can be a future solution by now, even if it means short term pains. Seeing Paul play ‘zone’ off of Felton, just puts too much pressure on the rest of the team.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 12:55 AM PST up reply actions  

ya dre had a legit case when he

complained about nate’s meddling and micromanaging. felton has been given ample opportunity.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 17, 2012 1:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Dre's main issue

Was playing time. Blake is a below ave NBA player, so this case is easy to see Nate was wrong re: Dre vs Blake. I don’t think it had to do with micromanaging.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Crushed it

And it’s not like he came into a hostile environment (all the cupcakes you can eat, Ray!). At the beginning of the year, most fans were thinking more along the lines of “Alright, he’s like Andre but faster!”, “Finally, a PG who pushes the pace!”, etc. Fact is, he’s spoiled all the goodwill by his play.
Nobody seriously wishes ill upon him, we just want him to stop inflicting it on us.

by PaisleyCow on Feb 17, 2012 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

more than enough fan support

if he were in NY, he’d have been booed nightly.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 17, 2012 1:16 AM PST up reply actions  

And if he played for a coach with enough Management support and long term vision

Like Pop at SA, he’d be playing half the minutes as they looked for a long term answer.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:24 AM PST up reply actions  

"Finally, a PG who pushes the pace!"

I’ll never understand why so many people enjoy run-and-gun slop.

Heck, if I wanted to watch rec league esque ratball, I’d turn on the Washington Huskies.

by AK1984 on Feb 17, 2012 1:32 AM PST up reply actions  

This team is not suited to run N gun

The early offense of such teams relies upon shot creaters / makers that can create high quality shots off of quick possessions. LMA can run well for a PF. Batum and Wallace can finish in the open court. Otherwise it’s a turn over waiting to happen.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, heck, I can tolerate fast-paced basketball at the college level due to the quality ...

of play being inferior — duh, of course — as well as ‘cause I’m only a casual UW Husky fan.

If I was a diehard like I am with the M’s and Seahawks, then it’d be a tougher pill to swallow.

But anyway, offenses in the NBA are built strongly on halfcourt sets. For every neat highlight that comes from leaking out and running on the break, there are multiple halfcourt sets that are the key to victory or defeat. Even in tonight’s game, we saw how Chris Paul getting hot in the 4th quarter running effective halfcourt sets for the Clippers got them back into the groove.

by AK1984 on Feb 17, 2012 1:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I totally agree

A disciplined defensive team just isn’t going to allow many fast break opportunities. There are a couple exceptions with exceptionally quick guards like TP or Rondo who either get to the rim or reset the offense (without turning over the ball!) but in general the strongest teams run the best half court offensive and defensive sets.

Watching Paul tonight was a v interesting case study. He was struggling, and had enough self awareness to realize this. He also had enough skill to continue to attack in the 4th Q and hurt PDX, without jacking up 20+ shots to get himself going like a Westbrook or a Ellis would have.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:50 AM PST up reply actions  

When they pushed it early on it was exciting basketball to watch

and we were winning!

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 17, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Like any relationship,

it’s a two-way street.

And this is not the first time Nate has demonstrated control issues with a point guard.

Felton does need to man up, but it is probably not a good fit. In fact, when it comes to Nate McMillen, there may not be a good fit. He had one of the leagues top point guards for the last 3 years and would only accept him at the helm when injuries forced his hand. When Andre Miller was finally given some freedom, it was the best the Blazers have looked as a team in the McMillen era.

Point guards appear to be McMillen’s achille’s heel.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 17, 2012 1:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

This is a trend for Nate not felton. There is something wrong with Nate and point guards….also French people. That dig he took at batum was in called for. Nate really has to go if you want to keep batum. You can’t bash a players home and game and expect him to play for you. It’s time, fire Nate.

by Cabbol on Feb 17, 2012 5:25 AM PST up reply actions  

I took it as more of a bash on

The Euro league which isn’t as physical as the NBA. And Batum is still a little soft

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 17, 2012 7:01 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

History fades reality...

Not sure this is accurate.

When Andre Miller was finally given some freedom, it was the best the Blazers have looked as a team in the McMillen era.

In 2009 the Blazers went 54-28 without Andre and were a far superior team to the one Miller ran. It seems much perception of how awesome BRoy was then is blinded by his struggles the last two years.

I liked Andre and he had some great games for us but let’s not pretend he was perfect. I know if I had the chance to have that 2009 team on the floor or the team from the last two years… It would be 09 every time… even with Blake as our PG!

#7... GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Feb 17, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

no way

that 2008 team was one dimensional and fatally flawed and easily handled in the first round of the playoffs. Why do people make such a big deal about the regular season win tally? And from the following season on Roy was as much a liability as a help. Look at Steve Blake now!

McMillen’s Blazers looked toughest and most viable last year after the Wallace trade and before Brandon’s return. Miller was elevating the play of the big men, the passing was crisp and defense committed. That is the only Blazer team I’ve seen under Nate that looked dangerous.

If you think Blake’s Blazers would beat Aldridge and Miller’s Blazers, you’re the one playing with history!

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 17, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

what is so agonizing about watching this season

is the knowledge that all they had to do was sit pat, with Andre Miller, and that same team, freed of Roy’s drama would have been back. Sure, and pick up a shooter like Jamal for perimeter shooting help.

Hard to be a fan sometimes.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 17, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

If "ifs" and "buts" were fruits and nuts... We'd all have a Merry Christmas!

In retrospect, yeah, we’d have been far better off to keep Andre… That’s for certain!

#7... GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Feb 17, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

A developed team...

…with Blake, Roy (healthy), Batum, Aldridge and Oden would completely destroy last years team with Andre at the point and Gerald at the 3 or 4.

The team of 2009… even though they lost to Houston largely due to lack of experience… statistically out rebounded teams on both ends of the floor, had more blocks & steals, out shot teams from the 2 and 3 and were +10 in efficiency.

I fully understand the lack of GO last year and it’s impact. All I’m really saying is that Andre is not the key to our past or future success and that I disagree with last years version of the Blazers being superior to the 09 version. They BOTH lost in 6 games in the first round so citing the 09 teams loss is a wash. The 2009 team… had it been able to develop and been healthy… would have been a far more lethal play off team than what the 2011 could have become…that was experienced and STILL fatally flawed.

People may not like the style of play associated with Roy but there is no doubt that if that group would have stayed healthy…even with Steve Blake at the point… they’d have been a handful in any play off series. Say what you’d like but I’d want that team in a playoff series vs. a team without Brandon but with Andre at the 1.

I fully understand that there are too many variables to make a fair comparison between the two teams. I just happened to be one of the few that appreciated and enjoyed the “style” of play in those years.

#7... GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Feb 17, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think you're in the minority around here

in extolling the ’09 team. That was the most exciting year to be a Blazer fan in this era because it was all new, the sky seemed to be the limit, and Roy was god-like.

But we weren’t talking about “if they developed.” We were talking about the ‘09 team. And they were soft, and they were one-dimensional. Like the Thunder of ’10, they were not feared around the league because they were young and didn’t have the toughness or cohesion to threaten in the playoffs. And tactically speaking, Houston simply had to pack the paint, and we were toast.

Study the NBA for a while and you realize that a different kind of dominance is needed in the post-season. You need a team that has bonded together and goes to battle together. You need enough men on the team to step up when one falters. There were simply no signs of that on that ’09 team.

Now during that period last year when Brandon was out and we had Wallace, a new-found toughness appeared on this team. Suddenly LMA was playing close to the basket and seemed to relish it! Andre was elevating everyone’s play and Camby was doing his Hi-lo thing with Batum. Suddenly, the Blazers were handling teams not purely with effort and skill, but with confidence. That confidence came from Andre Miller and the other veterans. Now that looked to me like a deep playoff team. Honestly, and this is the controversial part I’m sure, but when Roy came back some of that pride and fire disappeared. The team that faced the Mavericks in the playoffs was not as strong as the team that took the floor two months earlier. As brilliant as Roy was in ’09, he was hurting the team with his presence in ’11. Still, we gave the champion Mavericks the toughest fight of the playoffs.

For me, the biggest disappointment since the Oden injury was the trading of Andre Miller, because we never got the chance to see what that team, freed from the drama of Roy’s decline, could do.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 17, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I go both ways on this one.

It’s impossible to say Felton’s earned much confidence with horrible he’s played and he does have the worst PER in the league for how minutes he’s played. On the other side, this seems to be close to a unanimous complaint of Nate from his guards throughout his time here.

Dre ain't got no love for these pros

by Coastie07 on Feb 17, 2012 1:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Has Nate publicy complained about Felton?

I’ve seen the generic complaint that play has to improve. However, he’s specifically mentioned Batum, as someone who ‘Needs to make plays’.

I guess I’m just v pessimistic that Felton’s play would improve, if he got that lovey-feely feeling from Nate. He’s playing poorly (to put it nicely), and it’s mostly a Felton issue, not a Nate issue at this time.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:29 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree in Felton's case, he's been given more than enough from Nate to succeed.

It’s just not good that it seems every single guard we’ve had outside of Blake has mentioned having this same feeling about our coach.

Dre ain't got no love for these pros

by Coastie07 on Feb 17, 2012 1:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm the furthest thing from a pro-Nate guy -- and argue he should be let go at season's end -- however, ...

Raymond Felton needs to step back, shut his trap, and take a long, long look in the mirror. Even for his own sake, Felton has got to get his head on straight — as well as his portly gut in check — otherwise, he’ll be in line for a steep paycut. Suffice it to say, I think his fate is sealed as a backup in this league going forward.

by AK1984 on Feb 17, 2012 1:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he should be a back-up on this team now

When he can set the offense without pressure, he actually made several nice passes tonight. He struggles a ton vs. pressure like Paul applies. I think if he played vs the other teams 2nd team he could have some positive contributions.

Anyway it’s all conjecture at this point, as Nate isn’t willing to look for a true optimal solution, and instead focuses on what I’d call a local minimization / maximization solution.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I have said to drop Arman and pick up Patty, which wouldn't solve the problem

Patty is much more productive then Raymond. In fact I think I would drop Raymond pick up patty and activate Arman, if they are not going to play Nolan.

hg

by BBK on Feb 17, 2012 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

You're averaging 33 minutes a game. I don't want to hear no garbage about the coach.

Most coaches would have told management to send you packing by now. You are paid $7.5M to show up to training camp in shape ready to play. You didn’t hold up your end of the contract.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 17, 2012 2:10 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Totally agree. He realizes he struggling. He's trying to find a reason for it.

EWIll has a short leash. Felton’s playing 30+ minutes a night. Is he really looking for confimation that his <20% 3PT shooting is a ‘good job’?

Confidence isn’t external, it has to be an intrinsic quality. As a short term study Lin didn’t blow up because D’Antonio said you the man. It’s because he had an opportunity and felt he had the ability to succeed. Basketball is a fast acting sport, you basically react to the chances you have. You can’t look for external support when you’re shooting, dribbling, etc. You need to intrinsicly trust yourself to succeed.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:11 AM PST reply actions  

On the bright side

That Elliot Williams dunk was pretty awesome. A straight standing dunk from a guard is pretty crazy.

by Sheed'sTowel on Feb 17, 2012 1:11 AM PST reply actions  

I watched it like 3 times since I don't have CSN and wanted to see how he got open.

Paul had his head turned and EWill was ready to finish. Honestly only LMA and Batum can catch & finish that quickly. You can’t even image the shot attempt Felton would have gotten there.

by aces_dad on Feb 17, 2012 1:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep we playing the 3rd straight game and not a minute for our bench pg???

by kevin_lvp on Feb 17, 2012 1:12 AM PST reply actions  

An ugly game, but somebody had to win,

and that was CP3 cause the rest of the team sure as hell didn’t help. I’ll say this, I REALLY don’t want to play Dallas or Portland in the playoffs, as I don’t think they’d beat either of them.

by MyFavoriteTeamsRarelyWin on Feb 17, 2012 1:19 AM PST reply actions  

if you guys ever decide to ditch Mo Williams let us know

we’re still looking for a starting PG. And yes…we are that desperate.

by poorwebguy on Feb 17, 2012 1:38 AM PST up reply actions  

For Portland and the Clippers, a fair deal may be Wesley Matthews for Randy Foye and Eric Bledsoe.

The Clippers, however, can’t afford to trade Mo Williams, as he’s their offensive sparkplug off the bench.

by AK1984 on Feb 17, 2012 1:44 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

yeah, we are about that desperate.

If you can hit a 3-pointer, you’re hired!

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 17, 2012 1:45 AM PST up reply actions  

id do that. Foye is not too shabby and Bledsoe is a PG and we need one of those

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 17, 2012 1:57 AM PST up reply actions  

All the speculation regarding Mo

is frustrating as hell. KMart helps a little, but without Mo, idk where we’d be. With that said, his defense is kind of weak, would be a liability as a starter. Foye is trying to figure things out, but is struggling, and the same can be said about Bledsoe. I would definitely take the WM for RF and EB trade(:

by MyFavoriteTeamsRarelyWin on Feb 17, 2012 2:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Except the guard spot is one thing the Clippers still need to shore up.

Especially now Billups is down for the count.

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 17, 2012 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Takeaways

-did Kurt really need to play 26mins tonight vs. Craig Smith’s 14?
-Horrible substitution of Felton for Matthews late in 4th quarter
-Jamal Crawford iso’d every play with little success. I respect Jamal’s clutch shot-making and so does Nate to a fault. Nate often calls this iso 1-4, a play that generates no ballmovement. I appreciate that our players were fatigued late in the game and Jamal is by far are best threat late, but I dont feel he should take practically all our shots in the last three minutes of a game unless he is red hot
-Felton is not wise to mention that quote about his mom. Its not like he said anything bad, but he is going to lose money for saying stuff like that too often.
-Chris Paul is an elite, clutch PG.
-Mo Williams, you should ask to be traded to Portland. Blazer fans will love you, we will love anyone at this point,

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 17, 2012 1:45 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Nic was so wide open at times, but nobody ever looked for him.

I remember seeing Nicolas Batum beyond wide open at the 3-line, and nobody seemed to notice he was on the court; Blazers or Clippers. Nic held out his hands in disbelief. I feel for ya, Nic. The Clippers are pretty fast to recover but you could drive 2 semis side-by-side through the space Nic had between him and the nearest defender.

This was the most putrid offensive output I could remember at home. I recall only a ridiculous blowout loss to the Pacers in the late ’90s and the blowout playoff loss in game 5 at Utah being more pathetic, but this belongs on that scale. Yuck!

I believe I’ve given Raymond a chance. He has blown it badly.

retro

by retrobills on Feb 17, 2012 1:46 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Ya the chance has been blown.

you gotta wonder if Nate is either entirely blind or is being told to play Felton for a reason not entirely clear at the moment. Bernie Bickerstaff and Nate have their names written all over that Felton trade and it has not worked. Thankfully hes just a rental for the year, but I just cant see another team wanting Felton for anything other than cap relief.

Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje, Vladimir Stepania, Ha(ha you suck) Seung Jin, Travis Diener and Erick Barkley

by blazethenugs on Feb 17, 2012 1:52 AM PST up reply actions  

All I can say is Raymond must have mob or gangster ties.

Nate must be under threat of violence if he doesn’t play Raymond.

retro

by retrobills on Feb 17, 2012 2:00 AM PST up reply actions  

The plunger is wired.......the area is cleared.

Excitement builds, waiting for the the new ground breaking.

We must endeavor to persevere.

by Supercourse on Feb 17, 2012 8:04 AM PST reply actions  

Nice analysis, Dave

That was a scheduling loss, plain & simple. Though if Felton could have emerged from his funk just a LITTLE, it might have been a glorious, improbable victory…

I still believe in Greg Oden. The Blazers' medical staff? Not so much.

I'd change my handle to "bringback'09," but I'm too lazy.

by hurryup09 on Feb 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

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