Mahoney: Blazers' Late-Game Approach Is "Genuine Curiosity"
Rob Mahoney of The Two Man Game writes that the Portland Trail Blazers needed to run things through forward LaMarcus Aldridge during the overtime periods of a Saturday night loss to the Dallas Mavericks.
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It’s a genuine curiosity that Portland didn’t operate through LaMarcus Aldridge (33 points, 14-26 FG, 12 rebounds, one turnover) on every single offensive possession in both overtimes. Nate McMillan’s teams are typically fantastic at running plays that put the best players in a position to succeed and rely on those players to create (via scores in their comfort zone, passes out of double-teams, etc.), but the Blazer offense was entirely too reliant on Felton and Jamal Crawford (19 points, 6-23 FG, three turnovers) down the stretch. I don’t mean too harp too much on the final 10 minutes alone, but considering how good of a shot creator Aldridge has become, the Blazers’ closing possession distribution was pretty indefensible. Dallas defended Aldridge with Brendan Haywood for much of the game, and despite Haywood’s best efforts to contest shots, deny position, and limit angles for potential hook shots, Aldridge converted bucket after bucket. The man only forced both overtime periods with difficult, contested scores, after all. I’m not precisely sure who should be to blame for Portland’s uncharacteristic misuse of resources (McMillan? Crawford? Felton? Aldridge himself? LeBron James?), but someone in the Blazers’ locker room has some ’splaining to do.
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ever seen we got jamal
nate has converted back to having his guards hold ball for 20 seconds and iso.
/cambyfive
nate is not coaching well But this is what he does. The author of the article doesn't address how difficult some of LMAs shots were due to Nate's freaking ISO play.
If you run ONE play over and over and over and over and over…guess what? maybe the other team is going to figure it out..
Good question on who to blame.
This is my percentage breakdown on who are at fault: 30% for Nate, 50% on Crawford, 15% on Felton, and maybe 5% on Aldridge. Crawford gets most of the blame because he had the ball in his hands most of the time and chose to take it on his own instead of setting up Aldridge or others. Felton gets some because he chose a bad, bad, time to try to shoot himself out of a slump. AND, as a PG he should have looked for LaMarcus first. McMillan is the coach, and it’s his grand scheme so there’s some accountability there. And lastly, and it’s minor, but perhaps could turn into a huge one, Aldridge should probably lay it into the guards to make better decisions.
by Stryder9 on Feb 12, 2012 11:04 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
myth
Nate McMillan’s teams are typically fantastic at running plays that put the best players in a position to succeed and rely on those players to create (via scores in their comfort zone, passes out of double-teams, etc.)
PHILLY!
by CleBlazer on Feb 12, 2012 11:05 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
offense actually looks pretty good when guys are running it
right now we aren’t
I complained about this during the playoffs last season.
Nearly every possession down the stretch, Dirk touched the ball at least once. Exactly the opposite for LMA. The Blazers seem to forget about him at the end of the game.
I could understand if they were riding someone’s hot hand, but LMA scored 15 in the 4th quarter, for heaven’s sake.
As for who is to blame, how about all of the above? Nate and LMA need to insist that LMA get the ball, and LMA needs to take his teammates to task for not feeding him. He needs a little selfishness. Crawford, Felton, and others need to remember that LMA is the all-star, not them.
Lamarcus is being ignored late in games because he isnt being verbally dominant with this team
He needs to express himself in a more sturdier manner to his teammates while being respectful ofcourse. I dont think Jamal and Felton would have had the balls to ignore LMA late in the game if they knew they would have some strong feedback coming their way from LMA. I know LMA likes to be laid back but sometimes you gotta break out of your mold and do what is required
WITH ODEN ON OUR SIDE
A couple more bad losses will probably make him speak up.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
I really don't know if he's got it in him.
I don’t think LMA is type to chew out a teammate. He takes it pretty easy. Heck, I saw him yucking it up with one of Mavs under the hoop during overtime. Anybody remember him and Roy having a laugh during a nasty loss to Denver last season?
He’s not wired to be a team leader. In every interview I’ve seen where folks ask him what it’s like to be The Man now that Roy is gone, he gets all sheepish and starts stuttering. Doesn’t make him any less of an All Star, but it does mean somebody else has to step up and hold the team accountable.
I’m hoping the Blazers find a PG that can take on that role because Felton perpetually looks, and plays, like he just woke up from a burrito nap.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Feb 12, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You may be right, we will see.
I’m hoping the Blazers find a PG that can take on that role because Felton perpetually looks, and plays, like he just woke up from a burrito nap.
This is hilarious. Rec.
I’m in total agreement that we need a lead guard to pair w/Aldridge.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
But Nate preaches if you have a shot you have to take it
In fact, he said he pulled Nic, because he hesitated then passed the ball instead of taking the shot. Maybe it is just mixed signals.
hg
For as frustrating as Brandon was at times, he was a freaking closer. LMA might yet become one, but he's not there yet
and it shows.
Aldridge wasn't a closer, last night?
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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 12, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Blazers never lost a game with Brandon?
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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 12, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
this never ceases to floor me
you’d think I would stop being surprised at some point
THAT WASNT LAMARCUS' FAULT.
When his coach calls play after play for a guy that is shooting like crap, and doesn’t FORCE his team to get the ball into Lamarcus (the guy that made a shot at the end of 4th qtr. and OT to force each extra period) Nate is the one to blame. This city is so ridiculous. How hard is it to see? Without Brandon Roy Nate McMillan’s closing record is ATROCIOUS! HE’S NOT A GOOD COACH!
Not consistently, though her shows signs this year. I'd like to see the record of games over the last four
years of games decided by 6 points or less with Roy, vs, without Roy. I’m not trying to knock Aldridge, but I think that Roy may have been, if anything, under appreciated.
by raoulduke on Feb 12, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
When BRoy was healthy
We used to bet if the game was within 10 points at the 6 minute mark that BRoy would almost always win the game for Portland.
hg
LMA was setting a lot of picks out near the 3-point line
So the idea was either to free up the point guard or get open for a really long J. What was needed was to get Aldridge the ball as close to the basket as possible.
When the Blazers did get the ball to LMA in the post – his one option was to shoot the turnaround J.
Not very satisfactory.
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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 12, 2012 11:43 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Nate is a very one dimensional coach. I am sick of his coaching.
by Natsthecat on Feb 12, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Really?..
I never would have guessed that from the other 300 posts you made saying the same thing.
Do you think Nate “coached” Crawford to dominate the ball… and to not pass to ANYONE… including LMA?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Players play and coached coach. Again, last night our players, namely Felton and Jamal let us down. Even with Crawford’s misses he had shots he should have made but missed. Our scheme didn’t lose our execution did!
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
so you think Crawford dominated the ball and didnt pass to anyone ? LOL LA had 26 fga but he also played 52 minutes while the mavericks guarding him played no more than 45 minutes
by Willie Beamon on Feb 12, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
At the crucial times...
Like the end of the second overtime and some of the first… Yes he most definitely dominated the ball. It’s all about timing my friend and he did the wrong thing at the wrong time.
If you’re actually trying to say LMA had the ball too much I’m relatively certain you’ll have a tough time supporting that position.
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
you are exaggerating he didnt dominate the ball in the first at all in fact LA,Nic,Crawford all had very good looks in the 1st OT
Nic,Jamal and LA all had very good looks that couldve gave us a 4pt lead in the 1st OT but missed them .First 3 possessions of the 2nd OT Felton shot the ball we called timeout and ran a play for jamal who got to the ft line .
After that we force a miss and jamal drives in and misses a short jumpshot and we then force a turnover and find LA who ties the game .
They call timeout and after that marions misses and we come down and go to do LA who misses and they come back down Marion misses again and Haywood tips it in and we call timeout and runs a set play for jamal .
All this ball dominating stuff is hilarious it simply doesnt matchup with what actually occured in the game at all.
LA was gassed having played 52 minutes and Dallas basically kept switching fresh bodies on him as he played 7 minutes more than any Maverick .
The one thing Ill say about this game as that everybody who wanted a opportunity got an opportunity to seal it down the stretch and couldnt . LA,Crawford,Nic,Felton all got GREAT looks and couldnt knock them down
by Willie Beamon on Feb 12, 2012 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
So how does this support the original post I made...
…that it was not Nate’s coaching that lost us the game but a lack of execution?
Sounds like a nice play by play but I SAW Jamal split off a screen with Nic where both defenders followed him leaving Nic wide open on the wing. Crawford didn’t make the pass and the play went nowhere after he, himself, missed a contested shot.
You’re right…everybody missed shots at some time during both OT’s that really could have helped us. Again I have to ask how that supports the original claim that “Nate is a one dimensional coach”? If we got all those shots you are referring to that could have sealed it was our offense… or Nate’s coaching… to blame or did we just miss the shots?
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
That has been the song the whole year long
The Blazers guards can’t make their shots and we lose again.
When I was learning computers, I would type in the instructions and get a syntax error, I would type it in again and get a syntax error. time after time I would do the same thing and get the same error. Then it dawned on me, If my instructions are not working now, they will never work until I change my instructions.
So why go back to the same guards that has been failing all year, Nate will get the same results until he changes his instructions.
hg
In reference to...
If we got all those shots you are referring to that could have sealed it was our offense… or Nate’s coaching… to blame or did we just miss the shots?
Scheme was a factor
This wasn’t just on players not doing what the coach wanted. If it was that – players grossly failing to execute a coach’s plan – then the coach is even more to blame…..
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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 12, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
The "Scheme"...
…Gave Jamal Crawford several makeable shots that he simply couldn’t hit. He and Felton made it worse by taking some shots that came completely out of the offense.
This isn’t football where the coach calls a play every time we touch the ball. Our sets weren’t to blame execution was.
#7... GO BLAZERS!!!
To be honest, I would not be surprised at all to learn that Nate does, in fact, coach Crawford to play like that
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
My favorite Aldridge move this season has been the up-and-under.
That shot either goes down or gets him to the line every time.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Feb 12, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
I hate how much he fades
its cool cause its a hard shot to block. But if he would move towards the basket instead of away all the time he would be in the top 5 of the league for FT attempts.
He said he was practicing south pawing it all summer
and has been moving that direction more and more as the season moves on. That one where he got hacked by Haywood but still got it to go was to me maybe one of the best moves I’ve ever seen him make.
"spin baseline"
i find myself constantly saying the exact same thing as “the wild one” when LA gets the ball on the block. Most of the time that baseline spin is wide open for him. i bet it would open up so many little jumpers for LA if the defender had to respect that baseline move.
Yeah and he should get on the other side of the basket
more and then he could spin baseline with his right. If then he could go both ways from both sides, he’ll have four of a kind. Dribble penetrate and three pointers ahh a royal flush!
I don't know who to blame here....
I agree The Blazers need to go through Aldridge more.
But who do I blame? Is it Nate NOT calling plays for Aldridge? Is it the PG or team simply not looking for him? Is it the media that has made “Aldridge a Closer” such a big issue that everyone is thinking about it? Is it Aldridge himself being too passive?
I remember Scottie Pippen keeping himself out of an end of game Playoff game, because he was upset at Phil Jackson for drawing up a play that did NOT run through him.
Maybe Aldridge needs to get more vocal with everyone and SAY…Get me The Ball.
There have been some end of game moments when the ball has gone into Aldridge and he has suddenly looked lost. Sudden pass out to Kurt Thomas anyone?
The more I think about it, the more I think the whole team just needs to work on end of game execution PERIOD. It’s not just NOT going through Aldridge. The team isn’t executing anything at the end of games well.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
I put it on Nate. He is the coach and he can always call a play
If the coach calls a certain play and the players wont run it, then its his fault for losing the team. If LA isn’t getting the ball cuz Nate isn’t calling his plays, then that is also on Nate. If hes flat out not calling plays for LA then its still his fault for being an idiot… Either way he takes a good portion of blame.
We did run plays for LA the fact is that sometimes he doesnt fight for position all the time and last game he was worn down having played 52 minutes
But we did go to him and he missed just as Crawford ,Felton and Nic all missed looks that they can make . Mahoney talks about the final baskets but completely ignores the fact that LA did touch the prior to those plays
I was happy with some of the looks that we got for Nic ,jamal and even Felton . They were good in rhythm shots and while you want to look for LA everytime down the facts is that LA doesnt always fight for position and it is this thing called a 24 second clock .Dallas did a good job of rotating physical defenders on LA and we actually did a good job of moving the ball and getting the shots that we wanted . WE JUST DIDNT CONVERT but I was happy with the fight and if they compete like that for the rest of our road games we will start converting these into wins .
by Willie Beamon on Feb 12, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
my point is not to say LA is a wuss but just that when someone says oh no one got him the ball that 52 minutes and 26 fga is a ton of work being put in on back to backs and he was tired
but instead just saying that some claim its just a matter of passing him the ball when its not
by Willie Beamon on Feb 12, 2012 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you for clearing that up.
LMA should get further into the post. My point is that at some point, the guy is going to wear out. And not feel like continuing to try to muscle his way into the post.
in response to:
that LA doesnt always fight for position and it is this thing called a 24 second clock
But how many games have we won by our perimeter shooting?
I don’t remember to many, their legs are always tired after a back to back and they can’t make their shots. I got new for everybody, our backcourt has not made their shots all year, so why try to change that doing closure because LaMarcus played 52 minutes. That is illogical to me. If he is to tired to play, he shouldn’t be in the game.
hg
But, our shooting % all year throughout the game has been bad
How does the coach think it will dramattically change at closing. We get our points by forcing turn-overs and running out for easy buckets. our mid and long range shots have been off all year except for Aldridge and Thomas. So IMO, those would be the two that should be shooting at the end of the game..
hg
From my point of view Felton,LA ,and jamal all had great looks in that first OT that couldve put the game away and we couldnt convert .
IMO its not about who shoots as long as its a good shot and we had some good shots that just didnt fall
Felton stinks.
That’s where the discussion should start. You can’t AVOID playing through your point guard on a team filled with below average ball handling at every position though. Wes and Nic being poor at feeding the post makes them less likely to play the strong side with Lamarcus and Gerald has a busted up hand.
Of course, Felton sat the first OT and the Blazers got off to a solid start and should have won the period and game but they bricked a few open shots.
Next up, Crawford isn’t a point guard, but was making some plays to get guys open last night. He just can’t do that while maintaining a respectable shooting %.
What to do if you’re Nate? Your point guard stinks, and your only backup isn’t really a point guard.
It’s funny how often the Blazers get criticized for not running plays efficiently when THEY DON’T HAVE BALL HANDLERS WHO CAN RUN PLAYS EFFICIENTLY. It seems obvious to me but…
Come on, let's all hug it out.
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Feb 12, 2012 12:26 PM PST reply actions
Nate can't be blamed for everything...
Crawford is what he is: a streak shooter. His inconsistency can be tolerated because he’s the kind of player that makes up for off nights with on nights, or hits a big shot in crunch time.
Felton, on the other hand, has GOT TO be more consistent as the team’s PG. He simply isn’t working out. The season’s half over, what more is there to see? The real responsibility/blame from this point on falls on the management. Its time to make a move. They won’t get jack for Felton alone obviously. I think they’d have to package him with either Wes or GW and go after someone like Nash. Parting with GW now seems like the most practical move. That, or convince Nic he can play the 2 and then cut ties with Wes. Imagine if you will a starting five of Nash, Batum, Wallace, Aldridge and Camby. Lights out with Jamal off the bench.
I'm not on the hate Nate bandwagon
but I will say the current free agent veterans we picked up in last two seasons are not as coachable as the Brandon Roy teams that were among the youngest, least experienced in the league. I am in favor of a rebuild starting with any trade deadline deals that can bring in unrestricted, top 10 picks. Every player including LaMarcus should be available (though I might keep Batum and E. Williams). An up and coming young team is easier to root for than a dead-end veteran team.
Aldridge shouldn't be available
For anyone except Howard, or maybe multiple top ten draft picks. And the draft picks only if we get a GM capable of not totally failing in the draft.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
so you would trade LA, but keep batum and E will? wow
by Kazper on Feb 12, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Wowwy Zowwy
…and why not? He’s the most valuable player and he’s worth far more to a contender than to a pretender; and really, I can’t see him wanting to stay on a middling team forever. I bet he’s destined for Dallas, Houston, San Antonio or OKC.
you mean sometime in the distant future when his extension is up?
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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 12, 2012 4:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Worse than the offensive issues
Was Nate’s decision to run Felton/Crawford/Mathews to start the second OT – with Mathews completely unable to handle Delonte West one on one.
Besides the inability to for the guards to hit a jumper in OT – that was the single biggest factor contributing to the loss.
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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 12, 2012 1:54 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
this was his rationale
"We’ve got guys who are battling with confidence right now,’’ McMillan said. "Like tonight, Nic I thought hesitated on the shot, so let’s get Wesley in. You gotta shoot the ball. So my thing is, it’s really no hesitation to make that substitution if I think you don’t have it, or you can’t get your rhythm, as opposed to earlier (in the season), it was ‘OK. Let them play it out.’ We don’t now. We are going to change. I have to give us the best chance to win.’’
gimme a break. nic absolutely made a mistake there, but you don’t teach him by benching him for wesley. is it me, or does nate always hang nic out to dry in the media?
PHILLY!
by CleBlazer on Feb 12, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Nate isn't getting the best out of this roster.
Any time someone is tentative and you punish him with subbing a player who is playing less effectively it has to hurt. Nic gives you more than scoring. I didn’t understand Felton’s minutes – talk about non productivity? Nic or Felton ?
by Idahoblazerfan on Feb 12, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
What's dumb is Wes does the same thing,
passes up WIDE OPEN SHOTS, yet somehow he’s allowed to do it and Nate doesn’t do a thing, but Nic passes up 1 NOT WIDE OPEN SHOT (I know what shot Nate is talking about and there was a guy closing on Nic. Yes he could’ve got the shot up, but he made a move & passed to an open teammate, wtf do you want from him?) and gets pulled? I said it the MOMENT Wes started for Nic in 2OT that Nate just lost us the game, and of course Wes’ guy goes on to score 6 straight points. GREAT COACHING NATE! Maybe you can keep going away from Lamarcus when he’s the only person shooting over 50% and keep going to a guard that is 6 for 23. And for anyone saying Crawford is dominating the ball, NATE CALLS EVERY PLAY FROM THE BENCH, SO HE IS CALLING CRAWFORD ISO’S LIKE HE USED TO CALL BROY ISO’S. Problem is Crawford is NOT Brandon, and Nate doesn’t know how else to coach. He had Brandon bail him out of so many situations it has created this false image of Nate as a great crunch-time coach. WRONG! He is an AWFUL crunch-time coach and now without Roy he is finally being exposed. I’ve said this for 3+ years, but no one wants to hear it. This city is filled with Rose-Colored-Glass wearing apologists.
We keep losing close games!
That is not all on the players when we keep ;losing close games. Nate has to face the media and take some fault here and now! We seem to rely on spurts to get us in posiyion to win but we are so predictable that teams know they double down on LA and let someone else beat you. Nate has to devise some new strategy. We also keep going one and out in the playoffs also! Something has to change!!!!
by Idahoblazerfan on Feb 12, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
And this is the second time in a week that he calls Nic out by name. Why not Felton? Or Crawford or Mathews...
Nate has something against Nick..."this is the NBA"...that one kind of made it obvious.
Nate likes the hard working nose to the grind stone guy who reminds him of himself.
It’s a wonder he liked Roy. It took forever for LMA to gain his trust…LMA said so himself..the Dallas game last year is when he felt he had Nate’s trust.
Not that Batum isn’t a hard worker..he’s just way more talented than Nate ever was..same with LMA..Matthews OTOH, probably reminds him of himself. Not sure why Felton is getting the pass…maybe because he dribbles out the clock like Blake?
I hadn't seen that quote
McMillan is delusional if he thinks that this rationale justifies his player rotations.
The man is on the record as being clueless.
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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 12, 2012 4:26 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
To be honest, I can't really get a real read on Nate's feelings on Batum.
On the one hand, and on the surface, it does seem like he’s biased against Nic because he’s not giving him the start when it looks like he should and maybe because Batum’s also a Euro. (Euro’s haven’t connected well with Nate.) However, on the other hand, McMillan has designed two end of game plays for Nic in the last couple of weeks, so that tells me he somewhat trusts his SF to win the game…I don’t know.
the notion that Nate thinks Felton on the floor
provides a lineup providing the best chance to win is stunning.
The only rationale I could think of was the ‘Let them play it out’.
Nate, presumably, has some credibility (somewhere) on the line with the Felton fiasco.
Felton is like a close game wrecking ball.
well I certainly expect so, with no GM
and Nates ‘difficulties’ with Andre. I expect Nate has (or, preferably, had) a strong voice in any roster decisions. The team went to, in my mind, an extreme to trade Andre, considering, they probably passed up Faried as part of the trade. When Camby is out, we need rebounding help, that Faried might have provided. A nice windfall for Denver. This helps explain how Nate has clinged to the hope of Felton ‘showing up’.
I would love to see a ‘heavyweight’ GM come in who can take control, and start with a new coach, as I don’t think Nate is going to stand for any ‘interference’.
exactly. Batum on the bench...the Blazers go down by 4..Batum comes back in and
they tie. Perhaps if Batum had STARTED the 2nd overtime the Blazers would not have gone down by 4.
One thing that has emerged this season
Is a clear separation between Batum and Mathews in the intangibles department.
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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 12, 2012 4:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
God (or Dave): I know it's a no-no to say this, but people who have actually played hoops know there's a good reason you couldn't go to LMA every time in overtime
Namely: FATIGUE! LMA was obviously, and understandably, gassed. What’s remarkable is that, after carrying the team for nearly every minute of regulation, LMA was able to do as much as he did in the overtimes.
At some point, you have to let your big horse rest while someone else gets a bucket. Felton and Crawford did get themselves open looks. They just couldn’t hit them.
I still believe in Greg Oden. The Blazers' medical staff? Not so much.
I'd change my handle to "bringback'09," but I'm too lazy.
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