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Game 28 Recap: Portland Trail Blazers 94, Dallas Mavericks 97 (2OT)

In a Nutshell

In an all-too-familiar story the Blazers play lackadaisical, uninspired, brain-dead basketball and dig themselves a horrible first-half hole before coming back in the third and fourth quarters to make the game close. In this case, thanks to some of the most un-clutch shooting in the history of the universe by Dirk Nowitzki, "close" equaled an overtime, then two, before the odds finally caught up with the Blazers and they lost.

Game Flow

Here's what you need to know about the first half: the Blazers scored 32 points. Yes, in the half. Their entire offense was perimeter-oriented and slow...a bad combination. Meanwhile on defense they repeated their performance from the last couple games, defending in initial attacker just fine but completely missing any kind of rotation or help when the dribbler got past his man. It was horrible. The Mavericks had an 11 point led after one and pumped it to 18 in the second period. A little bit of scoring by Jamal Crawford and LaMarcus Aldridge plus some forced turnovers cut it back to 11 at the half, but this was bad. How bad was it? Earlier today we stopped by the liquor store in a rare trip to pick up some adult beverages for the evening. Watching the Blazers I figured, "Why not? There won't be much to write about this game anyway." So I downed a couple shots. OK, a few. OK, I put one down every time the Blazers made a stupid play. No joke. Two overtimes later I am still writing this somewhat buzzed. If you catch a typo, that's a shot for you. Catch enough of them and you'll stop noticing.

Portland dodged a bullet near the end of the second period when Khloe Kardashian's husband ran over Marcus Camby, who was set up to take the charge, and fell right on his leg. At that point I was tempted to grab the whole bottle but as it turned out after limping off the court Camby was back in the second half.

The second half featured more forced turnovers from Portland plus some filthy defense from Nicolas Batum and Gerald Wallace. Batum moved so fast blocking shots from behind that he was a blur on the screen. At least I think it was because he was moving so fast. Anyway...his defense prevented at least half a dozen easy points at the rum RIM for Dallas...points which often came because the guard defense was as poor as ever. Wallace grabbed some rebounds and hit some people, the usual. Portland's poor offensive possessions continued, however. They could only manage 23 points in the period, The good news: that was their best period of the evening by far. Plus denying Dallas with the blocks and a few steals kept the Mavericks at 18 for the quarter. Awww, heck. The Mavs' own indifference kept them at 18 as well. Portland played so poorly in that first half they convinced the opponent it was for real too. Dallas had a little bit of a ballgame on their hands headed into the fourth up 5, 61-55. Obviously that's exciting if you're a Portland fan but third parties would look at this game and say that at 61-55 after three things were getting ugly. Third parties would be right. The story wasn't so much Portland taking over as Dallas slipping back.

You know how when you were a kid your mom would tell you to go and beat up on a pillow when you got frustrated? In the fourth period LaMarcus Aldridge was frustrated and the Dallas Mavericks were the pillow. Aldridge scored 15 in the period. With a little help from Crawford he pulled the Blazers even, much to the chagrin of the Dallas crowd. Aldridge's teammates deserve some credit. First, they got him the ball. Second, their position defense was much better in the closing period than it had been earlier. Dallas' easy looks and offensive rebounds disappeared. With both teams sensing a win within grasp two battles ensued. One pitted Jason Terry versus Crawford. That was mostly a draw. Jamal's scoring kept Terry from winning the game outright for the Mavs. The second battle pitted Aldridge versus Dirk Nowitzki. Aldridge won that one hands down. He destroyed the Mavs on his offensive end (not being guarded by Nowitzki). He took up the defensive challenge against Dirk at the other end and Dirk just wilted. Not only could the guy not hit a shot (open or guarded) he was barely hitting the backboard, and sometimes not. That advantage was all Portland needed to stay close. Down 4 with a minute left the Blazers pulled even behind a Crawford drive and an amazing Aldridge turn-around. Dirk missed two shots in the interim. This game went to overtime, 81-all.

The first OT was sloppy. Portland missed a ton of shots from the perimeter. On the other end, though, they made the Mavericks work, got a block, forced a turnover, and limited them to 5 total shots in the OT. Dallas made 2 of those shots plus a couple free throws. Portland shot 3-10 in the same span. The game was still tied 87-all after one extra period.

For some ungodly reason the Blazers took until the 1:45 mark of the second overtime to get LaMarcus Aldridge, their savior, a shot. Crawford and Raymond Felton did the honors...if honors is the right word. What they did is shoot 1-4 between them, that "1" being a circus-shot 180-degree back-to-the-basket layup by Felton who was fouled along with the miracle make but missed the free throw. Crawford also drew 2 foul shots, making them both. That was Portland's scoring. Meanwhile Delonte West made 3 shots in 4 possessions against Wesley Matthews and crew. (This stretch was a failure for Portland's guards all the way around.) The Mavs led 93-91 with the ball and 2:00 left when Jason Terry threw a pass into the stands and Portland finally decided their main man should get a shot. Aldridge hit another patented 12-footer and the game was tied again. Everybody was thinking triple-overtime but a couple of unfortunate events conspired against it. The Blazers forced a Shawn Marion miss on a layup but only Gerald Wallace went for the rebound against two Mavericks. Aldridge drifted through the area while Crawford just stood and watched. Wallace had been a blue-collar hero all night but he couldn't keep Brendan Haywood from tipping in and giving the Mavs a lead. After Crawford (!) missed another shot Nowitzki took the ball against Aldridge at the top of the key and proved the old adage from White Men Can't Jump, the sun shines even on a dog's hindquarters. He put in an old-school leaning back on one foot Nowitzki special, making him approximately 1-6 on critical shots in the game but providing enough margin for the Mavericks to win. Dallas survives a Wesley Matthews 1-2 trip to the foul line to cut the lead to 3, an amazing forced jump ball on the rebound by Wallace which gave Portland possession off the tip, and a desperation no-chance heave from Crawford at the buzzer to tie. The Mavericks win, 97-94 in double overtime.

Take-Away Points

One of the words used copiously after the Oklahoma City Thunder robbing/loss was "narrative"...not just the facts of events but their meaning and significance. Here's the narrative of this game: the Blazers lost. That's it. Yes, people are going to go, "World Champions" and "road game" and "double overtime" and "Aldridge shining" and construct positive stories from this. Heck, if this were the first time this had happened all season I'd be doing that too. But how many times have the Blazers played flat for large stretches of games and then tried to come back at the end, only to fall short? If in the first two quarters of this game Portland had played with half the energy and focus they showed on defense at the end of the fourth and those two overtimes then they would have won this game. They did not. They lost. They lost in the same way they've lost a half dozen times before on the road. Neither double overtime nor the quality of opponent (which frankly wasn't that high tonight no matter what the name on the uniform) turns that "L" into a "W". Portland knows this. They know how and why this happens. They're either unable to compensate, unable to find the drive and energy, or unwilling to put enough into the game to do so. No matter how you slice it, that's going to lose you games.

A narrow loss to the Mavericks tonight is no more encouraging than a narrow win against the pathetic New Orleans Hornets last night in a game that followed the same general pattern. Quality of opponent doesn't factor in with the Blazers as much as the quality of their own play. If they don't look themselves in the mirror soon and come up with some answers they have no hope of anything more than a golf clap as they exit this season, victims of a team that's no more talented but plays smarter, more consistent, and more motivated basketball.

Individual Notes

The Blazers forwards were generally superb tonight, especially after the team got rolling. Aldridge led the pack with 33 points on 14-26 shooting with 12 rebounds. The only critiques are repeated ones. First, why not wring somebody's neck when they're hoisting shots early in the shot clock in critical situations and not letting you touch the ball? Once, OK. But the Big Dog has got to demand the ball when the game is on the line and he's on a roll. Otherwise he's just one of the pack. Second, if you're really going to take this team on your back and drive them to victory you have to do whatever it takes. Aldridge was probably 99% good tonight, or at least when it mattered. He hit shots. He played good defense. But that 1% may have been that fatal Haywood tip-in rebound. You can't just watch Wallace try to battle for it. If you come flailing in too late to get the rebound, fine. But at least come flailing in. At least make a dive for it. Superstars aren't the guys who make the play every time. Superstars are the guys with enough courage and drive to go after every play and thus, by percentage, make a lot of them you wouldn't expect. But you can't win if you don't play, so to speak. It feels bad knocking LMA for that kind of thing on a great night but this seems like one of the few remaining steps between him and true, franchise-changing greatness. He hasn't made it yet and it's a big one.

Don't let Gerald Wallace's 3-4 shots in 50 minutes fool you. He played 50 minutes because he was once again one of the only guys going after this game consistently. He had 10 rebounds, his 8 defensive boards leading the team by far. He shouldered that responsibility when Camby went down. He also had 4 steals to go along with his 10 points...points scored at the rim and foul line on a night when perimeter play was Portland's M.O.

Nicolas Batum had 7 rebounds and shot 5-11 for 12 points. He also had 3 mighty blocks, saving the game for Portland before anybody knew the game could be saved. He did well. The quibble for him came with 40 seconds left in the first overtime and the game tied. He got the ball in the corner with time running down and faked a streaking defender beautifully with a pump. Seeing his man fly by overhead he put the ball on the floor and drove to the basket. He had acres of open space to pull up or could have driven hard for the foul. It was going to be a game-defining moment. But instead he heaved the ball all the way across the court to Raymond Felton (of all people) who was out beyond the three-point arc (of all places) with the clock now running down. You can guess what happened. A potentially beautiful opportunity off of a broken defense turned into a horrific one at the most critical of times. I say this not to knock Nic for a single mistake, but to point out that there's more to go in his development. Coach McMillan seemed to agree, as he was pulled immediately after.

Portland's guards didn't fare so well. Each had something decent about their game but each ended up flawed. Felton contributed 9 points and but 2 assists on 4-17 shooting. I guess you could say he was aggressive. The second overtime might not have been the best time to show it. But he did keep the Blazers' heads in the game and turnovers low, though committing an obvious one himself late. Jamal Crawford also was "aggressive" shooting 6-23 for 19 points. The Blazers needed those points though. He didn't really do much else but he was handy to have around when Aldridge needed someone to distract the defense. Wesley Matthews shot 3-10 for 9 points but he did have 6 rebounds. His defense...I just don't know any more. The safe thing to say is I like his ability more than his results at this point. Combined these three guards went 3-15 from the three-point arc, making Aldridge's scoring clip even more impressive.

Marcus Camby had 6 rebounds in 16 minutes. Let's hope there are no ill effects from the fall. Kurt Thomas struggled tonight. Neither big man was a big factor.

Fun With Numbers

  • Blazers shoot 37% from the floor, 15% from the arc. (3-20...ouch!) It's a miracle they were that close. Don't fool yourself. It was only Portland's grit for about 10 minutes total in regulation. The Mavericks took this game for granted and played sloppy. Though at least they could shoot. (46% from the field)
  • Portland forces 23 turnovers from the Mavs with a big assist from the Mavs.
  • Blazers get 11 assists all night. With 2 overtimes. Think maybe the guards had something else on their minds?

Final Thoughts

I want to say the Mavericks are a shadow of the team they were in last year's playoff matchup with Portland. The problem is, I fear the Blazers might be too.

Hear the Dallas story at Mavs Moneyball

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The assists number is mind boggling.

by lawalteral14 on Feb 11, 2012 10:00 PM PST reply actions  

Batum leading the way!

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Scottie Pippen 2.0

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Feb 11, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Better!

OBVIOUSLY>

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Batum needs to get the Green light

Of all the shots that Felton, Matthews, and Crawford are getting Batum should have at least as many, if not more. His percentage is better and will get better if Nate plays him starter minutes.

I know he has made some late game young guy poor decisions, but that is why he has to play and be encouraged to take those shots.

His other skills are far better than just about anyone out there and can only get better.

by ralphzillo on Feb 12, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't...at least not how Brandon played most of last year and even the year before.

He was great before that but not the past two years except in a few games. I miss MILLER.
I know Miller had his limitations but he looks like the 2nd coming in comparison to how Felton has looked. 2 assists???
4/17???
I even miss Patty Mills at this point. Why isn’t Nolan Smith playing more? How can he develop an NBA game while sitting on the bench? I’m beginning to really dislike Nate for not playing him EVER.

by Natsthecat on Feb 11, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

When can we say without hesitation

That Miller for Felton was a terrible trade. Who cares that Felton is 6 years younger. I bet Andre is still better when he’s 42

by superfly05 on Feb 11, 2012 10:03 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

The organization tried to take a chance on a PG for the future

It isn’t working out to this point, but of all the bonehead front-office moves the Blazers have made (like zero solid players in the draft since Roy/Aldridge), gambling on Felton isn’t one I want to face-palm them for. It’s not like they’re stuck with him for five years if he really is as mediocre as he’s been so far with his new team. Now, if management traded Miller because he didn’t sync with Roy, that was stupid — and it wouldn’t be the first move they made because they thought Roy was the second coming of Kobe Bryant. I imagine they wre just trying to get younger at the position, though, and they’ll have their shot to reboot going forward.

Steve Goodman lives.

by twinsbrewer on Feb 11, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

fact.

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to worry...

There will be more Blazers exciting basketball in a couple of days.
Just can’t wait to see our brilliant PG doing his thing again.

by Victor Hugo on Feb 12, 2012 12:24 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Agree!

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Feb 12, 2012 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I have often wondered

If the team knew last summer that Roy would retire, would they have made that deal?

I can’t help but think they traded Miller, at least in part, to finally put and end to the inability of Roy and Miller to adequately coexist. Had they known (or surmised) that Roy was done, I can’t help but wonder if they would have rode Miller’s contract out this year.

If we don’t do that deal, we either swing another deal for Rudy, or perhaps even keep him as the backup 2 this year, meaning we never sign Jamal either.

"But if Ding Dongs and prime rib were the path to NBA pivot stardom we'd all be wearing the uniform." -Dave

by douglast on Feb 12, 2012 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

probably has

they probably aren’t listening.

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

How many games have we lost by 5 or less?

We should have 20+ wins by now.

Felton stinks. He has to go.

by hugetrailblazerfan on Feb 11, 2012 10:17 PM PST reply actions  

and where?

and for whom? and who would you replace him with? Since his numbers are down the team certainly can’t get much in a trade. There aren’t a bevy of stellar point guards waiting on the waiver wire for 10-day contracts. I agree with you that the Blazers would be a better team with a better point guard, but how would you go about getting one?

Steve Goodman lives.

by twinsbrewer on Feb 11, 2012 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/dominique_coleman/

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven't been on here in a while due to just having my first child born last Friday.

But let me just say.. I can’t wait for this summer. You know what I’m saying. This is getting old.

A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).

by anitachampionship on Feb 11, 2012 10:20 PM PST reply actions  

a little boy! Named him Henry! He's awesome

Mom is sleeping while I’m playing NBA 2k12. I’m 11-11 with the blazers. Felton is leading the league in turnovers while Jamal is only hitting 33% from the field. I know, I know, it says a lot about me as a gamer, but can’t help but think of how accurate it really is!

A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).

by anitachampionship on Feb 11, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That's FANtastic!!! Welcome Henry!

I think you have Felton and Crawford playing well over their heads. I refer you to Ben’s Shot Chart:

by XBlazerfan on Feb 11, 2012 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Felton was 4-17 and two that he made were a 20 ft shot that banked in and the over-the-back toss.

Sensing it was his night, he took the first 3 shots of the 2nd overtime. It wasn’t his night.

Blazers need to hold open PG tryouts at practice facility tomorrow.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 11, 2012 10:26 PM PST reply actions  

is he injured or did he come back already?

they’re invested more in teague, so maybe he can be snagged.

"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."

by YoniRap on Feb 11, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He's been injured or rehabbing for so long his conditioning is non-existent

He’s got a PER of about 9 and a TO rate that’s worse than Felton’s

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Feb 11, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus, he doesn't fit on Portland in this post-Roy era.

For Kirk Hinrich, the best fit for him would be the Lakers.

However, it looks like Los Angeles may sign Gilbert Arenas.

by AK1984 on Feb 11, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a good point

We need a legit distributor and lead guard. Kirk is great next to a ball-handling 2 or a shoot-first PG. We have neither.

I’m really amazed by the Arenas rumors. I almost get the feeling those must be rumors that Arenas’ agent is peddling to generate some interest. You would think they’d try to use their trade exception to pick up Felton, Calderon, or Hinrich before signing Gil.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Feb 11, 2012 11:19 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, Agent Zero would be far cheaper and more cost-effective than those guys.

Also, Jose Calderon makes more than the trade exception that’s possessed by the Lakers.

by AK1984 on Feb 11, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what is just completely baffling
For some ungodly reason the Blazers took until the 1:45 mark of the second overtime to get LaMarcus Aldridge, their savior, a shot

Why in the world can these guys keep chucking at 25% when the worst possible shot LaMarcus could take is 10 times better then any shot that leaves their hands? Feed Aldridge in OT and we win this.

They do it every game. This is one that Aldridge would have won despite them.

by poorwebguy on Feb 11, 2012 10:48 PM PST reply actions  

Coaching

The defense clamps down and the Blazers do not have any novel ways to get LA the ball late in the game. The opposition cuts off the first 2-3 options to get it to LA and there’s no back up plan. At least Nate had him switch blocks briefly tonight.

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

just pick and pop even

even a fade away from LMA double teamed has to be better than Ray when he’s in complete meltdown mode. For that matter let Aldridge create something from there.

Worlds better than letting some of these other guys try to create. I can live with Aldridge being off on the long fades. At least I know he’s still likely to hit over 25%.

by poorwebguy on Feb 11, 2012 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, definitely true tonight.

I was more speaking to the general trend we’ve seen in other “clutch” situations in other games.

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed that LMA needed to be more involved

He didn’t seem too tired (which is what happened when Andre scored 52 against Dallas, he was too tired to shoot near the end), and Dallas wasn’t denying him the ball effectively. They just moved away from him.

by Timmay! on Feb 11, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

And LaMarcus is typically a lock for a breakout game in his home town

Maybe his was still sick? Maybe the novelty is wearing off?

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

LMA is the reason for the fourth Q comeback

I don’t know how he can tolerate the horrible guard play without demanding the ball more. If I’m this frustrated watching the game I can only imagine how he feels.

by aces_dad on Feb 12, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Why wasn't Dallas doubling LMA?

They let him take 28 shots. Even the Dallas announcers were wondering.

by thaisteve on Feb 11, 2012 11:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate's role in Felton trade

Something we all need to remember is that Nate and Andre did not get along. At all. One gets the feeling that the Blazers management had to choose between the two and they chose Nate. Wrong choice, quite frankly. They can half rectify things now by firing Nate.

As for the Felton is younger thing…in 1/3 of a season he’s missed more games to injury than Miller has in 7 years (or something like that). Miller plays in such a way that he will be solid for at least 4 more years. Every GM in the league must know this. It was not a youth movement – management believed they had to choose between he and Nate.

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 10:49 PM PST reply actions  

remember when nate convinced KP to

take taurean green over ramon sessions?

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 11, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember when...

he started Steve freaking Blake over ‘Dre. And then tried that INSANE three guard lineup. I know that was half Brandon’s fault for more or less refusing to play nice with ’Dre, but 75% of being a coach in the NBA is managing your superstar. Phil Jackson or Jerry Sloan almost certainly woudl have been able to sell Roy on developing his off the ball game so as to improve his game in general, and also preserve energy for late game heroics.

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

And did Nate pick Nolan Smith as a favor to Coach K?

Seems like he went a bit high in the draft and Norris Cole looks like the steal of the draft.

by ralphzillo on Feb 12, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

i actually think it was choosing Roy over Andre

that situation was never really working out, and we largely dodged it last season due to Brandon’s injury. I have to believe they did the deal, at least partly, to resolve that situation in the backcourt.

One has to wonder would they have just kept Miller had they known Roy was done.

"But if Ding Dongs and prime rib were the path to NBA pivot stardom we'd all be wearing the uniform." -Dave

by douglast on Feb 12, 2012 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

It's so hard to say

Felton liked uptempo (though it’s hard to tell recently) and that’s kind of anti-Brandon too.

I still suspect they knew Andre wasn’t really thrilled with the org and planned to leave anyway, so they traded him to take a flyer on a young PG that might make a leap. Not working out as they dreamed.

by Timmay! on Feb 12, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions  

remember

when we were in close games there was no chance portland was going to lose..

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:03 PM PST reply actions  

#7

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Feb 11, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Greatest closer in Blazers history?

Greatest closer in Blazers history.

It may be decades before we see another finisher like #7.
#nothyperbole

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like I've seen

the words “Fail” and “Blazers guards” in the same sentence way too many times this season.

I think if we are going to have mediocre guard play, we might as well play Nolan Smith. At least when he screws up, I can shake my head and say “Rookie”.

With Crawford and Felton (and sometimes Mathews), I just shake my head.

...

by DaNoose on Feb 11, 2012 11:08 PM PST reply actions  

I guess that way he couldn’t sabotage the team from the bench.

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

dont be rude to nate

he is not the one that is playing poorly!

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

No...

Nate’s the one that pulled his best perimeter defender for the first 3 minutes of the second overtime in favor of having Felton, Matthews, and Crawford on the floor to eat up the shots and play crappy defense.

I like Nate, and I’ve defended him pretty relentlessly for the last 4 or 5 years, but last night’s loss was his fault.

by Eric Loftin on Feb 12, 2012 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

why is the rhino out of the rotation?

kurt thomas has been garbage lately. the rhino brings physical play AND low post scoring.

by odensraven on Feb 11, 2012 11:10 PM PST reply actions  

Because why not only play 7 guys?

On the second of a back to back.

Days before a 3 in 3 days.

When your starting center is injured.

And your franchise player can play 50+.

I mean, it’d be silly to add to the rotation under those circumstances!

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, ridiculous

is Nate begging to get canned? seems like management is blind so any subtlety is lost on them anyway.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

the rhino is not

playing because he cant play d against anyone in the nba!

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

kurt thomas isn't guarding anyone either...

at least rhino hits the offensive glass and gives you some need points in the paint.

by odensraven on Feb 11, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Last year...

he admitted he couldn’t get through to the players anymore. I mean, that’s literally throwing up a white flag.
And he’s still here…

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Kurt Thomas has been fine.

That said, Craig Smith should still get at least a modicum of playing time.

by AK1984 on Feb 11, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

thomas looks more like a confused rookie than...

a vet out there lately. rhino brings energy and scoring and offensive rebounding.

by odensraven on Feb 11, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

issue is not his shooting tonight

rather that he is not confused but what he is seeing from the other team in the game. he is confused but why his teammates seem to have no clue as to what they are trying to accomplish strategically moment to moment.

we do have a coach, don’t we?

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

turrible spelling

substitute some by’s for but’s and it will be close

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Good God, I hate our backcourt

I would swap Felton and Matthews for a couple of D-League all stars at this point. I might even prefer that awful Steve Blake – Juan Dixon backcourt from the MIles-Randolph days.

by byronirvin on Feb 11, 2012 11:12 PM PST reply actions  

I'm ready to tank the rest of the season . . .

. . . but I’m just following the players’ leads. Most them seem to have gotten that memo.

As far as talk of trading Felton for any value? Let’s just keep him and get his cap room next summer. Hard to believe we’d get anything better before then. Play Nolan Smith a lot more and see what he is worth. Can it be that much worse? Unfortunately, Wes Moneysuck is a more bitter pill.

From the beginning this this season seemed set up as a filler season: just get the games done and let’s worry about reorganizing next summer when we have a lot more cap room and Brandon’s and Greg’s issues are resolved. It feels like that is how the players are playing too.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:12 PM PST reply actions  

i wonder

if we could talk mj into coming back? or maybe sam bowie.

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:13 PM PST reply actions  

I've been wondering about drexler/porter

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

heck yeah!

lenny wilkens too. he might be old but he could probably run the offense better

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

JR Rider at shooting guard!

Canzano’s column made it clear he might like another chance.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:15 PM PST reply actions  

bonzi wells

and the sheed they both want back in. maybe damon too. brian grant. or derrick anderson.

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd take damon back

derrick if he wasn’t so injury prone.
Bonzi is garbage.
Sheed is the king.

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

i think they should go for allen iverson

and jr smith, wilson chandler, aaron brooks they are all over seas but soon could be out of contracts

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:19 PM PST reply actions  

I'd be all over giving Aaron Brooks a chance.

By the time he could get there maybe just cutting Felton wouldn’t be the worse move.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

JR SMITH

guy can score and that is what we need. and yeah aaron brooks is a blazer killer

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Both would be great

cut whomever we need to to make it happen.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

we need a center bad

camby cant do it anymore he is going to die on the floor we need a big man

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

that would be something - curling up and dying on the floor

and it would be more or less appropriate given management and nate’s approach to the situation.

I certainly hope it doesn’t come to that, but if Marcus had to be carried off on a stretcher to make a point I’d would be OK with that.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

multiple 20+ rebound games say otherwise

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 12, 2012 5:38 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

So will be Patty Mills :-)

You know Nate and Buch are just waiting for him

by Norsktroll on Feb 12, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

And just to (deservedly) pile it onto Nate...

he’s lucky the team performs so poorly that his terrible timeout management hasn’t been called into question yet. Might have been nice to have one after we won that tip at the end…

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:20 PM PST reply actions  

I thought Dwight Jaynes column yesterday was very good regarding Nate's failings

I’m ready for a new coach, at least in time for next year.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

that's what those NBA olympics players say

sort of . . . maybe to keep him coaching on a team they don’t play for . . . .

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...players also say Doc Rivers is a great coach.

But, in reality, he’s terrible. He just lucked into a situation where he could hide behind Thibodeau and three de facto player-coaches. All he has to do is call timeouts and make substitutions.

There was a game two years ago where Ray Allen made a great pass to Garnett who hit a winning jumper. After the game, a reporter asked Ray if the play went off as Doc drew it up. Ray said that Doc sent them out without a set in mind but, instead, told them to “make a basketball play and get a bucket.” Yet he’s held up as some kind of legitimate NBA coach when, in reality, he just lucked into the PERFECT situation.

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

i agree with me

thats all that counts in jordans world. nate=my hero

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

nate= injuries...

i dont care about injuries to my best players ill still make it to the playoffs then lose to a team that im predicted to beat.

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

ok come on

you cant say he hasnt done a wonderful job dealing with injuries and getting this team to the playoffs. Not to many guys could do that!

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the team isn't respecting him anymore.. but he is a good coach.

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I supposed to respect Jamal or Felton?

Cause if they think their dissent from the coach means nate should be fired that’s garbage… I do think nate needs to grow as a coach and trust younger players more… but I think he is better than just about every coach not in the phil jackson category.

he’s helped develop aldridge (as did monty) into the player he is today

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Umm..No. I believe that Bill Bayno is the one who worked

with Aldridge. Also Aldridge hired a Dallas Cowboys fitness trainer to build up his lower body summer before last.
LMA said that he’d earned Nate’s trust LAST year after his Dallas game.
So yeah, if by development you mean that Nate withholds approval/trust for 5 years to keep a player off balance and insecure enough to keep trying to improve, than yes…Nate is stellar at player development.

by Natsthecat on Feb 11, 2012 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Well said!

And funny-in a sad sort of way. Right on, though…

by kuhnsmith on Feb 12, 2012 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

You can always find a reason to criticize a coach.

Popovich doesn’t manage rookies well and trust veterans too much to the point of losing one title because you make Nick Van Exel your first PG instead of Tony Parker.
Sloan could have managed the Dwill situation better.
Thibaudeau uses his superstar to the point of exhaustion even in blow outs and has some pet players like Scalabrine.
Carlisle managed to get a title but without really getting the best of his rotation which shows when Dirkis not at his best.
Adelman can’t win titles (sometimes because of dubious refereeing decisions like against the lakers but still).
I won’t start on Gentry, Hollins and Collins who are really not special.

by biolb on Feb 12, 2012 4:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Pops has gotten a lot of credit for managing rookies lately.

though he’s been keeping some of the on the bench even though they were expected starters (Splitter), he gives them solid roles and trust.

"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."

by YoniRap on Feb 12, 2012 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

dwight jaynes is a blow hard...

he’s been trying to get nate fired for a long time because he likes to hear himself complain.

by odensraven on Feb 11, 2012 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I know Dwight likes to hear his own opinion validated

but he made some good points about the blazers woes lately, and there is good reason to pin a good part of the blame on nate.

if it really is all the players, then nate isn’t getting through to them and he needs to go anyway.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

jerry sloan is not the answer, imo...

his star player shut him out, and only a handful of other nba coaches actually make a significant difference to their teams. nate is one of them. most of them are just managers and the players run the show on the court. so unless you can tell me who you plan on replacing nate with then is sounds like a bad idea. nothing worse than a retread coach.

by odensraven on Feb 11, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I wanted Adelman for the last few years

but he’s taken again. He seems to get the most of the guys he has.

I think Monty Williams would be worth trying.

We are on a treadmill with Nate. Maybe you are right with him being one of the few that make a difference but I’m not seeing it this year. Maybe he and management know it is a treading water season and they are just playing through it.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 12, 2012 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought that about Monty also until I read a NO blog post that talked about

how bad Monty’s offensive sets are…so I thought…oh no…he must have picked that up from Nate.

by Natsthecat on Feb 12, 2012 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

that is the flip side of that coin

gotta wonder what bad habits he picked up from nate along with the good ones (presumably).

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 12, 2012 12:37 AM PST up reply actions  

“Maybe he and management know it is a treading water season and they are just playing through it.”
Management may know that, but Nate with his 7,8 player rotations seems more concerned with his personal lifetime won-loss record.

by thaisteve on Feb 12, 2012 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

and that's normal.

You can’t ask a man to go against his personal goals.

by biolb on Feb 12, 2012 4:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with the treading water to get through the season

But if that is true, they should let EW and Nolan play more for grading purposes.

I am sure Elliot is a keeper, because he is quick to learn and a hard worker.
I have read somewhere that Nolan can’t remember plays when he gets on the floor, that could be stage frieght and exposure can cure that, same with Babbitt.

hg

by BBK on Feb 12, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

how many ways can he say

You need to hit shots

"Luke is our go-to Chalupa man," Matthews said. "Designated."

by Vorlauf on Feb 12, 2012 8:09 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

we could always trade our team

to kentucky for their team they might stand a better chance

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:22 PM PST reply actions  

Trade for Nash.

OSU '06
GForce Crash Wallace FTW!

by TyboOSU on Feb 11, 2012 11:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

You're not getting him w/out throwing in Batum.

But it’d be worth it to actually become a legit contender this year. Felton + Batum + picks + cash = Nash, I think.

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

"just shoot Aldridge. it's not like we're getting easy shots anyway" - by poorwebguy
"that sounds not how you wanted it to sounds....it sounds like Aldridge is a horse with a broken leg" - by bgblazer

by Sheed30 on Feb 11, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would PHX trade an expiring contract for another expiring contract and someone who is overpaid and underachieved this year? And lose tix sales in the process?

by erastus25 on Feb 11, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

no no no no no no no

how many times can someone say no to this trade a million times he has never got to the finals before and with this blazers team it still wont happen. he is to old wont sign with us if we trade mathews and felton we better gets picks or young players maybe like a paul george or something have to get something for the future

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Way worse defense and our defense is already pretty bad.

Besides, Nash can set em up all he wants, the guys still have to make the shots. Take it to the bank, if we got Nash we still lose in the first round.

BURN THIS MOTHA DOWN!!! No one likes being the Dallas Cowboys of the playoffs every year.

by FPS NorthWest on Feb 12, 2012 12:40 AM PST up reply actions  

WE NOT GOING TO THE FINAL THIS YEAR EVEN WITH NASH!!!

Please stop the lunacy. No trading Batum for a far-fetched dream of getting pounded by Miami or Chicago in the finals. The smart move is to suck bad (a little late to suck really bad), get a decent draft pick, drop as many under-achievers as possible, and remake the team.

That said, I’m all for getting rid of Matthew’s contract if we can get some value back.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

lol we wouldnt even get to
with out a center we are going NO WHERE

by jpark on Feb 11, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

I love the passion, and I love the blazers, but this is a ________ year.

Not “rebuilding” because we aren’t doing that.
Not “placeholder” because it isn’t like we will be holding and waiting with much of what we have.
Not “makeover” because I don’t expect many of the changes to stick.
It is just a filler year, waiting (hopefully!) for management to put together a contender next summer.

The fact that we have no permanent GM underscores this point more than anything else.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Not going to happen.

Read it here. Nash is as loyal as they come and I don’t think he’d push for a trade or them even trading him without him giving them the go ahead. It even mentions they could work out a new deal when the time comes as well..

BURN THIS MOTHA DOWN!!! No one likes being the Dallas Cowboys of the playoffs every year.

by FPS NorthWest on Feb 12, 2012 12:38 AM PST up reply actions  

most likely not. Especially with Nate McMillan and co. coaching.

However, the guy is in top condition. Way better condition than cupcake. Not everything is measurable in chronological years.

by Natsthecat on Feb 11, 2012 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate might bench him for too many turnovers

although maybe Felton and Crawford now have conditioned him otherwise.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I gotta give it to you Dave.....

You’re thee very best sports writer I have EVER read hands down! For the past three years I’ve read every singe game re-cap you’ve written and I must say, your game re-caps are the best thing about this site by a landslide…… And I love this site. Great job……. Again.

We miss you B Roy.

by Blazers4ever on Feb 11, 2012 11:44 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

(meant to be a reply to Blazers4ever)

I love how Dave does not sugarcoat the issues.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

for a pro coach Nate's not very good at offense or defense

or if he is he isn’t good at motivating his team to actually use what he teaches.

(OK, I’m going to try to refrain from anymore Negative Nate comments tonight . . . I’m stil bitter about losing Adelman to my hometown T’wolves. At least my dad is super happy this year – he deserved finally having some good basketball).

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 11, 2012 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Wolves....... I was hoping they locked the Blazers in the basement by now.

Maybe McClueless will fall on his sword when it happens. This team is run just like our Vikes.

We must endeavor to persevere.

by Supercourse on Feb 12, 2012 7:38 AM PST up reply actions  

You fear they may be a shadow?
I want to say the Mavericks are a shadow of the team they were in last year’s playoff matchup with Portland. The problem is, I fear the Blazers might be too.

You fear they might be? Lets face it, they are. The Blazers had a .585 winning percentage last year. To get that this year the Blazers would have to win 39 games. To get to 39 wins the Blazers would have to go 24-14 the rest of the way. I don’t see that happening. After the Miami game early March, the Blazers will be on the outside looking in at the playoff picture.

by Cjones10 on Feb 11, 2012 11:58 PM PST reply actions  

LMy 13 year old son said tonight: "Why didn't the Blazers sign Jeremy Lin?!?"

My reply: “Nate wouldn’t have played him anyway.”

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 12, 2012 12:04 AM PST reply actions  

Finding half competent PG would make this season for me

We’re wasting a year of Aldridge’s prime no matter what we do at this point. Whatever it takes to find someone that can defend, handle the ball, set guys up and hit a 3pt if someone leaves him.

Even if it’s Armon. We need someone that can manage a double digit PER. No need to score 20. Just keep the defense honest.

by poorwebguy on Feb 12, 2012 12:06 AM PST reply actions  

Ditto

I’d say play Nolan a lot more. And play Elliot a lot more if we aren’t going to play Batum at SG. Giving Jamal lots of time at PG or SG gets this team nowhere long-term and it isn’t basketball – I don’t want to watch him playing horse with the other team for 40 minutes. I can barely tolerate 15 – 18 minutes.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 12, 2012 12:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Shooting Coach Anyone

How often are their feet set, shoulders square, in rhythm and within their range. These guards lack discipline.

Play the young guards.

by ORDucktape on Feb 12, 2012 12:11 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

This is an astute observation

Sometimes it boils down to the simple things. Outside of Aldridge and occasionally Batum on the spot up, this year’s Blazers are among the worst I’ve seen at squaring up or even having any consistent form to their jumpers. It’s just potluck time out there as far as form goes.

—Dave

by Dave on Feb 12, 2012 2:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Crawford is such a huge ball hog I can't stand it

In the 2nd OT there was a high PNR with him and Batum, Nico flashed open for a 3 but Crawford had no intention of anything other than jacking a shot regardless of what the defense did.

Then after Wallace gifted Portland with a final desparate shot, Crawford had the ball with 5 seconds left and began a slow dribble looking for his own 3 point shot. He had already decide he was not going to pass and got off a horrible double clutch prayer at the end. No attempt to attack and potentially find anyone else for a 3. I honestly don’t know how anyone on the team can like playing with him.

by aces_dad on Feb 12, 2012 12:13 AM PST reply actions  

not to mention

that final shot was just atrocious. I know we didn’t have time outs, but getting the ball up top with 7 or 8 seconds left, you HAVE to get a better look at a 3 than that. no excuses.

"But if Ding Dongs and prime rib were the path to NBA pivot stardom we'd all be wearing the uniform." -Dave

by douglast on Feb 12, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Lets see..............

No GM… No coach…2- 38 yr. old centers… three guards who won’t pass the ball…a scout playing procurement officer…and a owner who is truly clueless. Suddenly it all makes sense.

We must endeavor to persevere.

by Supercourse on Feb 12, 2012 7:29 AM PST reply actions  

Dave said
Second, if you’re really going to take this team on your back and drive them to victory you have to do whatever it takes. Aldridge was probably 99% good tonight, or at least when it mattered. He hit shots. He played good defense. But that 1% may have been that fatal Haywood tip-in rebound. You can’t just watch Wallace try to battle for it. If you come flailing in too late to get the rebound, fine. But at least come flailing in. At least make a dive for it. Superstars aren’t the guys who make the play every time. Superstars are the guys with enough courage and drive to go after every play and thus, by percentage, make a lot of them you wouldn’t expect. But you can’t win if you don’t play, so to speak. It feels bad knocking LMA for that kind of thing on a great night but this seems like one of the few remaining steps between him and true, franchise-changing greatness. He hasn’t made it yet and it’s a big one.

First of all, sorry for my english.
Dave, I do not follow you on this one. I understand what it takes to be a “true, franchise-changing greatness” but come on, LMA played 52 minutes and you notice that he did not fight for a rebound on a play where Dirk stayed outside the 3pt line? The guy can’t be everywhere.
Ok, LMA wasn’t there but why Crawford let Marion to help Matthews on West?

We lost in double OT in a game where Felton and Crawford shot an ugly 10/40 (!). LMA isn’t a “true, franchise-changing greatness” but he doesn’t have to be one if players around him stop bricking all their shots.

by gouillou on Feb 12, 2012 8:16 AM PST reply actions  

About Batum

45 seconds before the end of the first OT, with the score tied at 85, Batum refused 2 shots. First he didn’t take a 3 in the left corner and drove the lane with Kidd in front of him. Instead of shooting over Kidd (jumper, floater… whatever), he passed the ball to Felton, who attempted a 3pt.
Batum is not a killer. He can’t refuse 2 open shots and dish it to Felton, a poor 3pt shooter. That is not smart BBall.

http://www.nbaspirit.fr/photos/1369720.JPG

by gouillou on Feb 12, 2012 8:40 AM PST reply actions  

That is because they treat Batum as a 4th or 5th option

You develop that mind-set when they tell you to just play hard and don’t make too many mistakes. Batum needs to learn how to take the big shots by being encouraged to be the 2nd or 3rd option. Then he takes that shot with no worries.

I put the blame squarely on Nate for that- and possibly the management. They didn’t want to give Batum a decent extension, so tried to make it look that he wasn’t ready for it.

Now you see the results – gun shy in the big moments because they are messing with his head.

by ralphzillo on Feb 12, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

That doesn't have anything to do with the contract situation

and to be fair, they usually treat Batum like the 3rd option behind Aldridge and Crawford. The problem last night was that Felton thought he was the 1st option, Crawford thought he was the 1st option, and Nate pulled Batum for the first 3 minutes of double overtime after he had been playing GREAT defense in favor of Felton, Crawford, and Matthews.

I agree that Batum’s killer instinct is erratic at best, but the talent is there. He’s lacking the vote of confidence from Nate.

The contract thing was so they have more money this summer to throw around at people before they agree on anything with Batum. They’re just going to match whatever offer he gets on the open market.

by Eric Loftin on Feb 12, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

And part of the reason Nate hasn't given him the vote of confidence is:

a) Batum doesn’t finish at the rim nearly enough, and especially not strong enough

b) Batum is still young unfortunately, and has mental lapses on offense

c) Batum passes up good shots because he plays so unselfishly

We’ve heard Nate say he wants Batum to be more aggressive, so that can’t all fall on Nate. What does fall on Nate is last night’s loss. It was his fault for pulling Batum late.

I realize I sound contradictory, but that’s the reality of the Batum/Nate issue. It’s a two-sided coin.

by Eric Loftin on Feb 12, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Your points are valid, but that still doesn't explain why Nate would publically call out Batum

by name in the press conference after the Houston game and not mention anyone else by name for years at a time. He made it sound like that loss was on Batum’s shoulders, no else gets a mention. it was weird.

I think Nate lets things get personal. He didn’t like Miller, and for some reason he just doesn’t like Batum.

by raoulduke on Feb 12, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

seriously?

I didn’t know that Nate’s favoritism goes that far, if that is true he really needs to go.

by Victor Hugo on Feb 12, 2012 10:47 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I am under the impression that Nate berates Nic in practice also.

I remember from a couple of years ago that Marcus told Batum not to let Nate’s yelling at him get to him because Nate is just trying to get more out of Batum. not to punish him. But apparently Nic does not feel that way.

hg

by BBK on Feb 12, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think Nate dislikes Batum at all.

I think Nate follows his gut too much and over-thinks the situation as far as match-ups go. It’s pretty simple, at the end of the game in close situations, you put the 5 best players on your roster out there. So far this season, that’s Wallace, Camby, LA, Batum, and unfortunately Crawford.

by Eric Loftin on Feb 12, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

But Batum is still in awe with Nate.

If Nate would tell Batum to go out there and shoot because our back court can’t hit their own behinds with both hands tied to their behinds, Batum would do that. but If Batum knows he will be punished for missing shots that Felton, Jamal and Wesley is already missing then why should he be the scapegoat?

hg

by BBK on Feb 12, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

That's just it though

Nate HAS told Batum to go out there and be aggressive on offense, and Nic passes up wide-open shots that SOMEBODY has to put up at the end of the shot clock. I love Batum, and I think he can be a stud in another couple years, but right now it’s a vicious cycle with him and Nate. I don’t think anybody can look at Batum as a scapegoat for the crappy guard play we’ve had.

I’m not a big stats guy, but Batum has the second highest PER on the team behind Aldridge. There’s no way he should be benched in OT in favor of Felton, and that’s on Nate.

This team needs to trade some pieces and put Nic back in the starting lineup and they need to start running a two man game with Nic and Aldridge. It’s as simple as that.

by Eric Loftin on Feb 12, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

And I'll go one further

I think the reason for the poor play is due to Nate’s inability to let the team run. We’ve heard how many times that he wants them to fastbreak more, and yet here we are again playing in a half-court offense with players who thrive in the open court. Nate wants them to run but the guards get reamed for turning the ball over. Nate can’t have it both ways. I like Nate, I’ve always been a Nate apologist, but this has finally come to a head, and it’s his head. He needs to loosen the reigns and let our guys go.

Look how much we were running at the beginning of the season…and now we’re slow again because of fatigue and turnovers.

by Eric Loftin on Feb 12, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

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