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Around SBN: Full Coverage of 2012 Coke 600

FINAL: Portland Trail Blazers 112, Charlotte Bobcats 68 [Updated-- 12:25 a.m.]

In probably one of the most relaxed, fun games you'll ever see, the Portland Trail Blazers ran roughshod over the poor Charlotte Bobcats, ending in a 44 point win. The Blazers opened it up early with bountiful steals, and sealed the win by halftime. If you ever wanted to participate in a Gameday Thread, tonight would have been perfect.

The Blazers were led by... well, everyone. But Jamal Crawford (24 points in 21 minutes), Gerald Wallace (23 points, 3 steals) and LaMarcus Aldridge (22 points and plenty of grins) led the team in scoring.

The Blazers started out the game as you'd expect, sprinting to a 14-2 run and an 11 point lead by the middle of the first quarter. Charlotte quickly looked outmatched, as turnovers helped them fall behind by 16 shortly after. The Blazers eventually shot 61% (on easy shots) to score 35 points, their season high for the first quarter. Meanwhile, the Bobcats looked up at a 17 point deficit as the buzzer sounded. LaMarcus Aldridge feasted on the Charlotte front line, getting DeSagana Diop in early foul trouble, and scoring 14 points.

A Wallace three pushes the lead to twenty as the raucous crowd screamed in delight. Jamal Crawford soon hit a three. Then another. THEN ANOTHER. And just like that, it's a 28 point lead for Portland! In a very funny moment, the teams swap turnovers twice before Charlotte gets a layup swatted into the third row by Marcus. Ok, it was a "you had to be there" level of funny. Crawford tore up the Charlotte defense for 15 points, leading to a 26 point lead.

The third quarter was.... boring. Seriously. It was a contest between a team that knew it was superior, and a team who clearly wished the game was over. Portland's lead soon stretched 29. At one point, I actively rooted for Camby to take an open three. Gerald Wallace completed a three-point play, leading to a 36 point lead and a "Gerald Wallace!" chant from the grateful Rose Garden crowd. A Crawford three and layup made the lead 44 at the end of the third.

The bench (plus Felton and Jamal) arrived to man the court as the fourth quarter started. Nonetheless, the lead was soon 98-50, as the rowdy crowd enjoyed some bench action. The Blazers, however, sat at 98 points to the extreme dissatisfaction of the crowd, ready to riot at any time. Despite Luke Babbitt's valiant attempt, the veteran Crawford finally took care of business. Unfortunately for Charlotte, there were still 6 minutes left, as the fans enjoyed a Babbitt three, Elliot Williams layup, and a Chris Johnson attempted three-point play. The game ended with Charlotte proud to announce they tied the Blazers in scoring for one quarter.

My favorite Gameday Thread comment of the night: HoodieNation describing the night's events while riffing on an old Rasheed comment, "One team played hard".

Enjoy the box score, then stay tuned for some probably-relaxed analysis from Dave and Ben shortly. The next game is tomorrow night in Sacramento, which will be noticeably tougher than tonight. -- Tim

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Update from Dave:

My apologies for the lack of a proper recap to this game. I got called away to emergency duty just as it started. I just finished watching as of 12:05 a.m. Pacific...too later for a recap really. My overwhelming impression: this is what the Blazers look like when they play against a practice team. And it looked good. This is the ideal for this team: passing, scoring, rebounding, defense. You saw the whole enchilada, the true potential, tonight. You also just got an object lesson in what NBA defenses can do to you. We've not seen the Blazers play even close to this level for a sustained period, not even for an entire game. That's not because they're incapable, it's because they're defended. But at least for one night you got to see the dream as it was written on the dry erase board of the Blazer Brain Trust this off-season. Enjoy!

Your Jersey Contest Scoreboard and the form for tomorrow's game.

--Dave

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I recorded the 4th quarter

May be the last time i see some of those guys in a Blazer uni

by meRoy on Feb 1, 2012 9:20 PM PST reply actions  

Please.

The worst team in the NBA and our bench tied in a quarter. I wonder what Jordan would ask for White ?

EW is Bayless with a wing span.

just win baby !

by FrenchieFan on Feb 1, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

and a jump. Does EW ALWAYS go one way to the basket?

don’t remember which side it was but Bayless ALWAYS went to one of them..

by Natsthecat on Feb 1, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

williams does only go one way to the basket...

up

Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10

by Tofu Anonymous on Feb 1, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

He went right a couple times

And he’s left handed, so that’s good. But he also passed up at least one obvious lane to the right, that I saw. He shoulda driven around his defender, but passed out instead.

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats AJ only goes left.

Rex was an agressive one, attacked from wherever he got the ball. He wasnt as obviously one hand dominant as AJ is. Rex was a scorer, no pg instincts. Just didnt have the length, and didnt fit in with chemistry. I’m defensive minded equally on all pgs.

just win baby !

by FrenchieFan on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking like it's Dwayne Casey

Bayless is the third guard there behind Calderon and DeRozan and is thriving.

| 23.1 | .647 | .605 | 15.6 | 28.3 | 21.9 | 6.7 | 0.9 | 7.7 | 17.8 | 20.7 | 118 | 100 | 1.3 | 1.0 | 2.2 | .214 |

by MadBlaze on Feb 1, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the big knocks on him was that he always goes left

Bayless usually went right but was quick enough to do it. Not sure Elliot is as quick as Jay Bay so will be interesting to see how he adapts his game on the drive. His explosiveness once he gets to the rim is very useful in any case.

| 23.1 | .647 | .605 | 15.6 | 28.3 | 21.9 | 6.7 | 0.9 | 7.7 | 17.8 | 20.7 | 118 | 100 | 1.3 | 1.0 | 2.2 | .214 |

by MadBlaze on Feb 1, 2012 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?

E Will is left handed and goes left, Bayless is right handed and goes right.

| 23.1 | .647 | .605 | 15.6 | 28.3 | 21.9 | 6.7 | 0.9 | 7.7 | 17.8 | 20.7 | 118 | 100 | 1.3 | 1.0 | 2.2 | .214 |

by MadBlaze on Feb 1, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions  

E Will definitely went right once or twice

In fact, he was sorta going right when he rim-checked himself. Looks promising.

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

He went right a couple of times and passed and on the missed dunk he went right and spun back left. If he can get to the rim I think the chances of him making good on his talent and athleticism skyrocket.

| 23.1 | .647 | .605 | 15.6 | 28.3 | 21.9 | 6.7 | 0.9 | 7.7 | 17.8 | 20.7 | 118 | 100 | 1.3 | 1.0 | 2.2 | .214 |

by MadBlaze on Feb 1, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

Let’s put it this way, if he DOESN’T end up at least a solid bench scorer, it will be a big waste of talent.

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

with a small sample size

his jumpshot looks a lot more natural. He’s also not a PG. Hard to say with EW, yet

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

If his 3 starts to fall, I'd say he's more like an aggressive Rudy than Bayless

It’s funny how BEdgers tend to compare any aggressive scoring guard to Bayless.

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

17

in NO

he did it in 29mins on 13-16FG and 1 turnover

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

He's too old

Let’s keep the Unintended Consequences.

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

great name for a punk band

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Feb 1, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Better name for Felton and Crawford, yes?

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

double double!

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Wheels and Tone were chatting up Nash tonight,

how he helps other players, what he could do with more talent…
I was starting to wonder if they knew something.
Cool if we get him, if we don’t overpay.

by Berkeley on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he'd love PDX.

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I was going for well dressed hipster.

but quite a few Portlandians could pass for vamps ha.

"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil

by 420Phenom on Feb 1, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

the Vitamin Water commercials with Nash are genius

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 1, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely.

"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil

by 420Phenom on Feb 1, 2012 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Yes it was

"I don't always drink water, but when I do I drink vitamin water....triple X."
He can speak 22 languages; at the first grade level.

by The Most Ridiculous Man in the World on Feb 1, 2012 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It really deserves a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Emz—1Jz3k

Its so good…

"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil

by 420Phenom on Feb 1, 2012 9:48 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

it's all about Step 4

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 1, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

that 4th quarter was fun

may have been some of the worst basketball in portland this year, but we got to see the other guys. lots of fun

by permaswoon on Feb 1, 2012 9:22 PM PST reply actions  

Does anyone have a video

Of the Felton to Wallace alley oop dunk that got called off?

by Emanon on Feb 1, 2012 9:22 PM PST reply actions  

If that is not on Youtube within the hour,

I’ll rage. Then cry. Then a little of both.

tbd

by Diggidy on Feb 1, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS it?

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

No.

Smart a$$.

"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion

by RedUniInLA on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't click it

But I bet I know what it is, hehehehehe

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

:D

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Feb 1, 2012 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

fittin title on that video

what (exactly) was felton thinkin…

kObe iS thE aNtiChRiSt

by Brendan Holladay on Feb 2, 2012 6:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Do the scrubs even practice together?

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:23 PM PST reply actions  

haha

What’s really funny is that we blow out teams like Sacto, Charlotte, and Phoenix, but the last 5 guys in their rotations always out play our last 5.

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Do the scrubs even practice?

FTFY

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Feb 1, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I wanna be a scrub too!

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Feb 1, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Geez! What do the starters get?

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16

by Tyler Durrden on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

elliot looks decent

awkward, but you can see the raw potential there.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 1, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, he's a baller.

He just needs to make better reads.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

well, he can jump, which is important

he looked out of control most of the time. No chance to get in any flow, of course

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say out of control most of the time

Certainly some of the time….

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

crawford had a good game wish felton could put up numbers like that!!

by Danvegas on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 PM PST reply actions  

Man that was so wild when ...

It was like, oh man, is Babbit going to do it? Is he going bring nasty meat to the good Portlanders of the Rose Garden. Whew, that was intense.

by Jumbaco! on Feb 1, 2012 9:24 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Whoever is in charge in Charlotte

Clearly knows nothing about the game of basketball

I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain

Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mark_twain_4.html#ixzz1IE4sPu16

by Tyler Durrden on Feb 1, 2012 9:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

he certainly didn't go to Duke

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, both teams played hard.

It’s just Charlotte is that epically bad.

Doesn’t change the fact that Portland is still an above average, yet fatally flawed team.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 9:26 PM PST reply actions  

Get outta here, the real fans are gloating

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm kidding though. We like you here ;)

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I've been grumpy, too

I’ve been in bed since Sunday, and I think I have bronchitis, so I’ve got that “pissed off at the world” thing, which combines poorly with my forced optimism.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Intrigued.

"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

by KeepItCopacetic on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I enjoyed it anyway.

All people improve the gene pool; some by birth, some by their demise!

by blazerfrog on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

you

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Feb 1, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

NO PICTURES!

Phase 1: Collect underpants
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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 1, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

More like a Negative Nelly.

I don’t have what it takes to be a Debbie.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

How pathetic

that shadenfreude is all you’ve got.

by thaisteve on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Schadenfreude?

Fair enough, its fun mocking a garbage team like Charlotte.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The same can be said about a lot of other teams, too.

Portland isn’t even the best fatally flawed team in the league. That’d be Philadelphia, which has one of my favorite players (i.e., Iggy) and one of my favorite coaches (i.e., Doug Collins) leading it.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Then why don't you go join Liberty Ballers and talk to them about how they're fatally flawed?

I know geographically speaking Portland is the closest thing you have a team, but you have never embraced the Blazers as your team anyway… So… What’s keeping you here?

(I’m not actually asking you to leave, I enjoy your analysis and opinions even if I disagree with many of them)

The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/

by gtbassett on Feb 1, 2012 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

You hit the nail on the head: Geography.

Portland is part of the Pacific Northwest, so I feel a greater connection to it than I would Dallas or San Antonio. So, in spite of me liking the makeup of the Mavericks and Spurs teams more, I feel a kinship to the Trail Blazers based on location. I also even have some family members who live in Portland, so that adds to it.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Back to the fatally flawed teams point, I have Portland in 4th place on that list.

Among the above .500 teams, Philadelphia, Denver, and Indiana come before Portland. It’s sorta close, though. Behind Portland, I’ve got fatally flawed teams such as Atlanta, Utah, Houston, and Memphis.

There are even non-fatally flawed teams I have below Portland, including Boston and both of the L.A. teams. Orlando, too.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

By non-fatally flawed, it's conceivable that a team like Boston could make a run to the ...

NBA Finals as an 8th seed. The chances of that are exceptionally slim, but not none. That’s why I don’t consider them to be fatally flawed.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

there is not a team in the NBA right now that I don't think is fatally flawed

i’m not sure how you don’t think Boston doesn’t have a fatal flaw of being ancient and injury prone, or Orlando that has no one creating anything from the wings. Lakers have to rely on Kobe way to heavily and have no depth, old too

by Peteyhasnohead on Feb 2, 2012 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

That's a fatal flaw, yes.

However, they’re not fatally flawed due to the greatness of Chris Paul being able to compensate for piss-poor coaching.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 2, 2012 12:47 AM PST up reply actions  

By fatally flawed, I mean no chance of winning as currently constructed.

There’s a difference between a fatal flaw and being fatally flawed. Every team has got a fatal flaw — including Miami in the 4th quarter — but they’re not fatally flawed.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 2, 2012 12:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Are those the Vegas odds?

It’s a fair bet, but I wouldn’t make it.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 2, 2012 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No I think it is closer to 25:1. Maybe lower now.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Feb 3, 2012 6:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't touch that.

Whatever the odds, I’d bet on San Antonio.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 4, 2012 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

G'Night

Phase 1: Collect underpants
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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

our winning margins:

home: 44, 38, 13, 12, 7, 8, 20, 11, 9, 22, 2 —> avg: 18.6

overall: 15.85.

when we win, we win big.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 1, 2012 9:32 PM PST reply actions  

check that

the 7pt win was @ NO.

home margin of victory: 17.9
overall margin of victory: 15.9

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Feb 1, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I told my wife we should win by 40 tonight.

Mission accomplished!

Loud pipes save lives!
Bad knees break hearts!
Time for an exorcism.

by We-B-Dunkin on Feb 1, 2012 9:33 PM PST reply actions  

She always does a good job!

That has nothing to do with basketball though. No basket involved.

Loud pipes save lives!
Bad knees break hearts!
Time for an exorcism.

by We-B-Dunkin on Feb 1, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Ray Felton was a +41 tonight

not bad.

Babbitt was a -4

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 1, 2012 9:43 PM PST reply actions  

though Luke did have 6 rebounds and a blocked shot (!)

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 1, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

the 18 steals and 11 blocked shots weren't bad either.

man, I’m sorry I missed the game.

"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."

by thankyouforblaze on Feb 1, 2012 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone know:

How many draft picks Charlotte has stockpiled for this year’s draft?

"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion

by RedUniInLA on Feb 1, 2012 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

Lol

It’s a good thing they’re so bad, otherwise they’d owe one

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, they're lucky it's protected until 2016.

As it is, a lot is riding on how they do in the 2012 and 2013 drafts.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep.

They need Drummond. Then trade Gerald Henderson while he has some upside left and pick up someone like Mike Moser with the pick we owe them.

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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

But the pick we owe them isn't for this year, so all they'll have is theirs near or at the top.

Anyway, I think they should go with Andre Drummond. Anthony Davis would be a better fit on a team that already has a few building blocks, with Sacramento coming to mind. A Cousins and Davis frontline would be devastating.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

To add to that, the Bobcats are so terrible they need to tank this year and next year.

Draft Andre Drummond in 2012 and Shabazz Muhammad in 2013 should be their goal.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Shabazz and Walker onthe same team?

I think Walker will have to really turn into a point guard by then.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Feb 1, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Derp...yup, I even checked the picks-owed on RealGM earlier.

Davis would look pretty good in Washington or Detroit as well. McGee isn’t developing as well as I hoped he would though, nor is Wall. Sucks that they’re probably just all athleticism, no skill. But Knight, Monroe, and Davis would be a beastly combo down the road.

Not gonna lie, I haven’t started looking at next years draft. I know Shabazz Muhammad has an awesome name, but that’s it. Rivers, McAdoo, LeBryan Nash, and Beal need to wait till next year to come out. Nash might benefit from a full 4 years of the more patriarchal college coaching.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
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by HailOden! on Feb 1, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Nash is not ready. Austin Rivers is solid but a short SG.

McAdoo could probably wait another year or so. Bradley Beal I haven’t seen enough from.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Feb 1, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Detroit would be another great landing spot for Anthony Davis. Good call.

With Shabazz Muhammad, he seems to be the only surefire prospect of the 2013 class. Yet, as you said, some guys who can come out this year will elect to stay in school and push back their draft class. James McAdoo is an example, but I argue Austin Rivers could come out. Between Rivers and Brad Beal, I’d go with Rivers.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately for Charlotte, it might be stuck in the wrong time frame for a rebuild.

Kind of like when the Milwaukee Bucks won a draft lottery in the year when Andrew Bogut went 1st.

Picking #1 sometimes gets Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, while other times picking #1 gets Bogut.

In fact, that was the one argument in your guys’ favor y’all didn’t bring up in the earlier debate. Tanking in and of itself is a fine practice, but it might be ill-advised these next two years due to the lack of a transcendent player at the top of the draft. Basically, this isn’t 2003 with LeBron James as the prize.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't pick on Bogut, who is actually a good player

I’d pick on Kwame, Olowokandi, or Joe Smith first. Joe Smith is a perfect “awww man, we got the number one pick this year?” example, even though in retrospect there were much better options.

by Timmay! on Feb 1, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

True, although I'm amazed Kwame went over Chandler after all the hype ...

Tyson received in high school. I was a bit younger for the Michael Olowokandi and Joe Smith years, but I remember that neither guy was hyped as much as Iverson in ‘96 or Tim Duncan in ’97. Heck, if I recall, Duncan could’ve been the first pick in ‘96 or ’95 if he’d’ve left school a year or two early.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Feb 1, 2012 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I tried to raise that issue as a general problem (not specific to these next two years) in asserting that you don't know you're going to land any stars,

in asserting that you don’t know you’re going to land the needed players, mentioning long rebuilds like Milwaukee and Boston, and Portland’s own botched rebuild with Roy and Oden. But I never did get it across with any clarity, and especially did not think to look to actual upcoming draft prospects. Good point.

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by HailOden! on Feb 2, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Bleh, I hit copy instead of cut

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by HailOden! on Feb 2, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I think a lot has to do with timing.

Sure, some years are more of a crapshoot than others — such as 2004 with Dwight Howard being a gamble — but others are surefire hits like 2003 with LeBron James. In other cases, some years are guaranteed duds — such as 2006 with Andrea Bargnani — but others look great and don’t turn out so hot like 2007 with Greg Oden.

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by AK1984 on Feb 2, 2012 11:41 PM PST up reply actions  

VDN put his best rebounders in for Utah FT's at the end of the game...

Where securing the rebound was critical…

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by blacknoiseNW on Feb 1, 2012 10:22 PM PST reply actions  

Ray

has a +41 differential. I know that stat doesn’t mean anything but It’s fun to see how high it can get.

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by Doctor Worm on Feb 1, 2012 10:25 PM PST reply actions  

And at home no less.

I can’t remember offhand a more humiliating basketball game. But since we’re talking about +/-, when there’s only 2 players on an entire roster with a +/- ‘better’ than -20 ….yeah.

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by The Most Ridiculous Man in the World on Feb 1, 2012 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh Terrelle Brandon

how I wish he was a Trail Blazer, still today :(

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by 420Phenom on Feb 1, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I sort of feel for the Bobcats.

They’re getting hammered by injuries, and I guess their best player went down in this game.

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by CyclonicWinds on Feb 1, 2012 11:05 PM PST reply actions  

their best player

is on our team!!!
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by blazerfan80 on Feb 2, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

A few notes from ESPN's stats department...
The Trail Blazers defeat the Bobcats by 44 points, its their largest margin of victory since November 17, 1997, when they defeated the Mavericks by 45 points. The 44-point win by the Trail Blazers is the largest margin of victory by a team this season. The previous high was a 40-point win by the Grizzlies over the Bulls on January 1st.

The 44-point loss by the Bobcats is the worst in their franchise history. Their previous worst was a 120-80 loss at the Nuggets back on March 2, 2011.

From the ESPN recap (Bottom corner)

by Timmay! on Feb 1, 2012 11:43 PM PST reply actions  

...and YahooSports
Wallace, who is still bitter about the trade, didn’t feel sorry for the Bobcats.

"Personally, I wanted to keep going. I didn’t even want to come out of the game," he said. "It’s one of those things where, like I said last year around this time, I didn’t feel like I was traded, I felt like I was stabbed in the back."

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by thankyouforblaze on Feb 2, 2012 12:02 AM PST reply actions  

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