Media Row Report: Blazers 98, Cavaliers 78
The Portland Trail Blazers defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers, 98-78, at the Rose Garden on Sunday night to run their record to 6-2.
The good news is that I didn't need to spend the entire second half concocting a visual representation to prove the depth of Cleveland's hopelessness as I did the last time they came to Portland back in March 2011. Who could forget a game that, at halftime, had Portland on pace to win, 128-68? Not me. Making this chart and hearing Cavaliers coach Byron Scott call his team "so soft it's unbelievable" was the equivalent of taking a few extra hits of laughing gas after a 3-hour dental procedure. Good times.
The end result on Sunday was another blowout home win for Portland, but there was a key difference: hope has been restored for the off-red and bright-yellow. Rookie Kyrie Irving is sensational for a 19-year-old starting point guard asked to carry a roster of flotsam. Fellow 2011 lottery pick Tristan Thompson isn't too shabby either. With any luck they will be the only two current Cavaliers left on a playoff-bound 2014 roster and this year's pit of dreadfulness will already be a distant memory.
Portland's slow-developing, ugly-early win seemed to drive everyone a little bit batty. Media dozed through the choppy 42-35 first half; fans screeched in agony at the final buzzer when Portland fell just short of the 100-point total necessary for free Chalupas. Afterwards, Blazers coach Nate McMillan responded to three separate questions with a description of his pre-game decision to get the Blazers actively moving during their afternoon shootaround. Minutes later, Blazers forward LaMarcus Aldridge and guard Wesley Matthews said that the shootaround was nothing out of the ordinary and that it was simply a low-intensity walk-through. The Blazers shot 7-for-26 in the first quarter so it didn't really matter which version of events was accurate.
It was Sunday night, the laziest day of the NBA week, against the Cavaliers, pretty much the meekest competition not named the Washington Wizards, and just about everyone in the building had someplace else they would have rather been. If Thursday night's win over the Los Angeles Lakers was electricity defined this game was a flashing "low battery" warning. I guess I could go find the charger, or maybe I could take my chances and shoot off a few text messages. If the phone gives out, oh well. I've got 8 percent left. That should be enough.
Portland never bothered to charge up, instead using pushes in the late-second quarter and early-third quarter to open up a game that was never really in doubt. A 10-2 run before the break set the mood and a smooth sequence from Wesley Matthews to start the second half sealed the deal. Matthews corralled a loose ball from a charitable Antawn Jamison, moving niftily into space to escape traffic near halfcourt with a behind-the-back sidestep move before calmly flipping a pass ahead to a streaking Gerald Wallace, who finished the uncontested dunk with the minimum effort required.
That was the moment of self-realization for Cleveland, the play that made the Cavaliers look around at each other and conclude that Anthony Parker (2-for-7), Jamison (1-for-8), Casspi (1-for-7 when it mattered, 3-for-3 in garbage time), Ramon Sessions (2-for-8) and Daniel Gibson (1-for-7) weren't going to be enough this time. The third and fourth quarters were pretty academic. LaMarcus Aldridge made sure it would be a laugher, scoring 14 third-quarter points after shooting 3-for-10 in the first half, on his way to a quiet game-high 28 points plus 8 rebounds.
The only moment that strayed from the "blowout home win over a weak opponent" script came when McMillan had a mini post-game flare-up.
Asked why he didn't pull his starters until Portland was up 91-69 with 2:54 remaining, McMillan reacted as if the media bathed a poodle in red wine and then gave it agility training on his living room's white carpet.
"Give me a break on that," McMillan said in a snarly tone, making it clear that he genuinely desired the break, one that would preferably last for the rest of his life. "The game -- When do you sub? When it's five minutes to go in a game? Our subs gave up 10 points in two minutes. I think you guys read too much into that. Bottom line is to win the ballgame. A minute? Thirty seconds? Give you something to report on."
It was a rare moment of direct disgust from a man who bottles up his emotions with the media about as tightly as humanly possible.
Why react? One: McMillan has clearly expressed an ingrained desire to never, ever, ever lose a double-digit lead because of a late-game substitution decision. Two: McMillan seems to have a deep-seated aversion to ever finding himself in a situation where he needs to put his starters back into a game after pulling them. Three: McMillan is a professional basketball coach and therefore, by definition, hates being second-guessed by the media, especially following a blowout win.
Anyway, McMillan channeling Kobe Bryant-style loathing for a paragraph was about the most interesting thing to happen on Sunday night, which pretty much says it all.
Lob City on Tuesday; that one will have a different vibe, guaranteed.
Random Game Notes
- You've surely noticed Blazers guard Wesley Matthews flashing the "three holster" after he knocks down a shot from outside (Matthews was 3-for-9 from deep on Sunday). Matthews forms his fingers like a three and then deposits his hand into an imaginary belt like a gunslinger. Why does he do it? "It just kind of happened. We couldn't do the goggles any more because Patty [Mills] is gone, he was pretty much the founder of it. Something goofy, something to do, something for the fans, mainly. Me and Nic [Batum] were coming up with something." Asked whether the gesture had a special name, Matthews said: "It doesn't matter, it's just the holster."
- A few astute observers have noted that Oklahoma City Thunder point guard Russell Westbrook used a similar motion during a win over the Blazers last season.
- A look at the shortened schedule practice management: Portland took Saturday as a maintenance day after travelling back from Phoenix, did not shootaround Sunday morning (opting for the pre-game afternoon shootaround/walkthrough) and plans to take Monday as a maintenance day too. In other words, essentially no real on-court practice time. If you're wondering where the up-and-down play is coming from, the absence of practice time is as important as the increased frequency of games. Two sides to the same coin, but one seems to get talked about more than the other.
- The Blazers announced their 164th consecutive sellout on Sunday night. Here's what it looked like when the game tipped (picture via Mike Acker of Rip City Project). The game tipped at 6 p.m. instead of the usual 7 p.m. or 7:30 p.m. start time. Day of the week and opponent also factors.
- The Rose Garden jumbotron captured a fan's sign which read: "Marcus Camby got Swishers" with a carefully-drawn design featuring the cigar manufacturer's logo. Camby was arrested and then cleared of a marijuana charge following a traffic stop during the lockout.
- Irving isn't getting nearly enough buzz around the league. Outside of Steve Nash, Stephen Curry, Chris Paul and maybe a few others, he's got the smoothest shooting stroke for a point guard that you will see. Machine-like during warm-ups and very confident, perhaps a touch over-confident, during the game. McMillan praised him (read below). All of the intangibles that you would expect from a Duke product are there. You can see the makings of a potential All-Star. Better than John Wall already? You know I love John Wall. The rookie wall awaits though.
- A few standout Irving plays: Felton went crashing to the floor after attacking the basket and Irving immediately recognized the man-up advantage, pushing the ball down the floor the other direction and setting up an easy lay-up at the rim. Later, a smooth dump-off dish while driving baseline, finding Tristan Thompson for the emphatic finish. Third: a very nifty finish in transition to avoid Gerald Wallace -- no easy task -- and complete the play. Casspi ruined multiple Irving assist opportunities.
- Thompson is also very intriguing. During warm-ups you can't help but ogle as he spins and rips through going either direction. Incredibly explosive and balanced for a young big man. His length and shot-blocking ability was on display during the game. Thompson is short, though, and had a number of attempts stopped at the rim and he was also stripped on his way up. He finished with 10 points, five rebounds, 3 blocks and 3 turnovers. One of those blocks was an eye-opener from the weakside as he helped on Nicolas Batum, who was posting up Breast Gibson. The time will come, hopefully before the end of March, when Byron Scott punts on the season and moves him into the starting lineup. What is the point of Antawn Jamison?
- Thompson has a need-to-correct shooting issue when he turns to face. He sets up triple-threat position below his waist on the right side even though he's a lefty. He then pulls into his shot in a long and deliberate motion that brings the ball across his body and face. I kid you not, one of Cleveland's assistants, who I would guess is 55+ years old, stripped him or blocked his shot during half-speed warm-ups at least four times, despite other coaches trying to encourage him to burst into his motion more quickly. He needs to go to whoever re-engineered LeBron James' mid-range jumper during the lockout and figure out how to get into his shot from a higher release point.
- In the two games since Blazers point guard Raymond Felton declared he was fit after playing 41 minutes against the Lakers, he has been torched by a 37-year-old Steve Nash and outplayed by the teenaged Irving. Felton was 3-for-7 for 9 points, 2 assists and 1 turnover against Phoenix; Nash was 7-for-7 for 17 points, 9 assists and 3 turnovers. Felton played 28 minutes in the blowout loss. Felton was 1-for-9 for 2 points, 7 assists and 5 turnovers against Cleveland. Irving was 9-for-17 for 21 points, 4 assists, and 4 turnovers. Felton played 30 minutes in the blowout win. On the season, he's shooting 35 percent from the field and 12 percent from deep. He did have some excellent set-up assists for forward LaMarcus Aldridge on Sunday.
- Quirky thing: For the second home game in a row the Blazers finished the first half with a very late three-pointer. Jamal Crawford sank a super deep one against the Lakers at the buzzer; Matthews knocked in a corner three fadeaway with just seconds left on Sunday.
- Another night where Aldridge got 20+ shots and it still didn't feel like enough (even though he was hit-and-miss). He will be up for Tuesday and Blake Griffin.
- Someone tried to ask Gerald Wallace about the Clippers after the game. "When do we play the Clippers?" Wallace responded. In two days, he was informed. "OK, I'll talk about them in two days," he replied firmly but without malice. End conversation. Pretty funny.
- Nicolas Batum minutes watch: Just 20, despite the blowout. Tick, tick, tick, tick.............
Nate McMillan's Post-Game Comments
Slow start
Yeah it did. I kind of felt a long day yesterday and then we didn't really have them moving around until right before the game, we wanted to get them moving by running them in shootaround. This is going to be an adjustment for us. Sometimes you can lay around too much. Once we got our second wind in the second half we started to play better basketball and establish a defensive presence. We were able to break this game open.
Schedule is a challenge?
It is a challenge because of this year and the number of games. Just the way this schedule is. You don't have to do different things. You have to learn from games in the past. I knew today that we needed to get these guys moving around because I kind of felt it this morning. You're waiting all day for this game to happen. Normally we have a [morning] shootaround. We had a quick meeting yesterday so they had an opportunity to rest. The long day they pretty much had today, I knew we had to get that blood circulating but it took us a half to get going. Finally we were starting to play good basketball.
Halftime vibe
I just felt we had to work harder. We needed to dig down and work harder on both ends of the floor. Defensively we were kind of just in a daze. Kinda flat. Looked very similar to the Phoenix game. Then we got going. I thought Gerald was able to get involved, we forced some turnovers and was able to convert some points. I knew we needed to work harder than we were working.
Force-feeding LaMarcus Aldridge in the third quarter?
Well we want to go in the paint and establish ourselves through LaMarcus or penetration. Even though we're pushing the ball, when we talk about attacking we want to get to the rim, whether that's post-ups or penetration. If the outside shot comes from that we'll take that but we don't want to settle for perimeter jumpshots. So we want to play through LaMarcus.
Turnovers
I thought we were just having some bad turnovers. Just being careless with the ball and playing in traffic. But we did force a number of turnovers, 24 for 28 points, which I thought was the difference in this game. We got some points off of our defense. When you start to see that ball go through the basket normally NBA players start to play better defense.
Pre-game shootaround you went full speed?
As opposed to walking through, get them moving. Run through your sets or your defensive schemes live as opposed to walking through it we want to go through it almost live where we are moving to get them moving.
Wait too long to sub out the starters in the fourth quarter?
Give me a break on that. The game -- when do you sub? When it's five minutes to go in a game, our subs gave up 10 points in two minutes. I think you guys read too much into that. Bottom line is to win the ballgame. A minute, thirty seconds. Give you something to report on.
You said you were embarrassed by the last game against the Clippers
We've played better basketball since then. I know we are much better than we showed New Year's Day. We're going to need to be better against this team. I think they had a day off also. It's homecourt before we get ready to go out on the road so these next two games back-to-back, we'll be focused on the first one but you want to defend homecourt before we go out on this long road trip.
Craig Smith -- 13 minutes
He gives us a balance, a big that can give us some offense on the post. We're short with both he and Kurt out there but he plays bigger. We've been pretty solid with him being out there. I'm trying to get as many minutes [off] for LaMarcus as possible when I go to that rotation. He has experience, he knows how to play, he's familiar with these guys he's going up against.
First take on Kyrie Irving?
He's very quick. Offensively he can get his shot. He can create some things. I thought we did a pretty decent job of trying to keep him in front and trapping him at times, mixing up our defense. But he's a very talented guard.
Plan for tomorrow?
We'll walk through and get ourselves ready. We won't be practicing hard tomorrow because we have 4 games in 5 days. Tomorrow will be basically a maintenance day and then we'll get ourselves ready for the Clippers on Tuesday.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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Sellouts, not full crowd.
Still kind of meaningless though.
Johnson, Johnson, Smith, Smith, Thomas, Williams, and Babbitt: the Blazer's law firm.
Bean counters don't think it's meaningless
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 9, 2012 12:28 AM PST up reply actions
meh, lots of empty seats at tip but it filled in as game progressed.
I believe most of the tickets were bought and paid for like all games. Sure a few get donated to charity. As always, the 300 level was packed, and the lower levels were pretty sparse at times. People who get free club level tickets from work generally come and go as they please, whereas people who pay for their own ticket make a point to be there on time. Nothing new. Early start, Sunday night, crap opponent, coming off a garbage loss, all likely reasons for a sub par crowd (which it was).
"She fell in love with the drummer, another and another"
by Cap'n Crash on Jan 9, 2012 12:46 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Even if a person shows up for every sold seat
there will still be empty seats any time you look….why? …. people is the rest room …getting food …smoking ..whatever. Then you add scalpers tix …season ticket holders who are sick or busy ..whatever …there will be even more empties
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
Don't forget "fan fatigue" during this compressed schedule.
There are a lot of season ticket holders who are going to be hard pressed to get all their tickets used by themselves or somebody else during this time period.
In fact, for those of you who like to buy tickets via stubhub or elsewhere on the secondary market, I would suspect that prices are going to be lower this year simply because of all the extra mid-week games that people aren’t going to be able to schedule for.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Jan 9, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
the sections in that picture filled up considerably shortly after tip
were there plenty of empty seats tonight? sure. not as many as that pic would leave you to believe though. the crowd was good – we really WANTED to get loud in the first half, just wasn’t much to help us in that department.
However, in the decisive 3rd quarter, we got the Garden rocking pretty good a few times before coasting into the victory in the 4th.
And yes, Nate waited too long to pull the starters, no matter what he says. No reason ALL FIVE starters should be on the floor up 25 with 4:45 to go.
"But if Ding Dongs and prime rib were the path to NBA pivot stardom we'd all be wearing the uniform." -Dave
About your Batum comment...
Tick tick tick to produce? Or to be traded?
To get minutes.
Johnson, Johnson, Smith, Smith, Thomas, Williams, and Babbitt: the Blazer's law firm.
he will. Everyone probably will. Find it hard to believe the Blazers will come through
this season injury free.
If so…kudos to whomever changed up the fitness/training methods.
To complain about a lack of minutes
I can’t image he’s content with his role. And, the body language indicates he’s frustrated with Crawford’s unwillingness to pass him the ball. I’m honestly surprised anyone on the second unit likes Crawford, he only passes when he’s double teamed.
I laughed OUT LOUD on this one:
McMillan reacted as if the media bathed a poodle in red wine and then gave it agility training on his living room’s white carpet.
Did you just make that up? That is hysterical!
I loled @"Breast Gibson"...lol
OSU '06
GForce Crash Wallace FTW!
by TyboOSU on Jan 9, 2012 4:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
me too
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Love the insights!
OSU '06
GForce Crash Wallace FTW!
by TyboOSU on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 AM PST via mobile reply actions
<3 Nate.
He doesnt owe the media any explanations. My favorite answer was " I coach here " last year.
Summed it up perfectly. Why pull your starters just to put them back in ? Makes sense, not "breaking news " though. Let the man do his job.
just win baby !
by FrenchieFan on Jan 9, 2012 6:25 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
OK,
he does not owe any explanation, but still I think it’s fair to say that when it’s 5 minutes to go and we’re 24 up, it’s time to let the guys rest. If subs loose 10-15 points from that in three minutes you’re still 10 up and just 2 minutes left. Not sure what score would be satisfactory to Nate with 5 minutes to go, 40 plus maybe. If you loose 1 game in 10 because of giving rest to your starters too early I think it’s still worth it. This season is crazy and you don’t want any injuries – now that would make all the starters play more.
Bottom line
also is that guys like Nolan, Chris or Elliot will not learn much if playing totally garbage minutes.
Say what?
If you loose 1 game in 10 because of giving rest to your starters too early I think it’s still worth it.
You realize that is an 8 game swing in a normal season, right? The difference between a 50 win season and a 42 win season? This year that ratio is still a 6.5 game swing . Let Nate figure out when the game is safe …each one of these games can be crucial
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
Except you won't be up 20 with 5 minutes to go
82 times in a season. Realistically, we’re talking about maybe 5 games in a season, so a 1 in 10 loss rate in that situation (which is still ridiculously pessimistic) would mean about a half game swing over a season. Maybe that ends up making a difference, maybe it doesn’t, but it generally won’t affect the standings nearly as much as you’re implying.
Even so....these games are really very very important
that doesn’t change.
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 9, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
The most important
is to win during play off time. It’s good to have smoething left in the tank then.
Not if you miss the playoffs
or not have home court
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 9, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
we just have to accept that Nate is extremely conservative in this respect
He never wants to have to go back to the starters. I agree that we should transition to at least a lineup that doesn’t include Aldridge and Camby though.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
So not true
McMillan is accountable to the fans – in particular if he isn’t winning. If he is winning – then he has a lot more latitude. However, professional sports are funded by you and I – and there is a reason why coaches and players have mandatory interviews.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
I disagree
Coaches are accountable to the GM, owner, and to a certain degree to the players. Trying to please fans and media would be a fruitless endeavor. Most the stuff we go on and on about is worthless in terms of trying to win games as a coach. It’s all fun and well and good for us to do so but I hope coaches and players insulate themselves from most of it for their own sanity.
PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04
by tssbro on Jan 9, 2012 6:37 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I didn't say coaches are the extension of fan will
But this statement is absolutely false:
He doesnt owe the media any explanations.
Fans don’t always get it right – in spite of my recent “wisdom of the masses” cracks – but the point still stands that the NBA is a fan-funded league – and coaches absolutely must explain their actions.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
For some things sure...but your "absolutely must explain" is a tad strong, no?
Whether someone rests players or pulls them out when “the game is over” is a pretty petty thing to get asked about. Media guys have their opinions, which vary as much as fans. Sometimes the same member of the media will roast a coach for playing guys too many minutes and then turn around and roast him for his team giving up a big lead in the next game. I agree if a coach decides to go for three when only down two or plays a scrub and not a starter down the stretch of a close game, he should be asked the question and give an answer.
As for what my payment for a ticket buys me, there are limits and having every action explained to me is not an expectation I have of the coach. I actually expect the media to have some sort of idea that there might be limits to what they ask about. Not pulling punches about major issues, but lay off the petty stuff every once in a while. Watch the game and recognize that there wasn’t really a break in the game after Byron put in his scrubs and the clock ran down a couple of minutes. Nate ended up calling a time out to get guys in the game which could also be construed as extending the game needlessly by the opposing coach. It must be exhausting to have every move and decision analyzed and questioned even when you win. My $750 doesn’t give me the right to demand answers for every excruciating detail of the game.
PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04
I know what Dave what doing during the lockout...
He was putting the go for it into his writing skills…
if you're referring to this post, it was written by ben.
by williamswonder on Jan 9, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
noticed that
wasn’t sure whether he lost his signal or not
by XBlazerfan on Jan 9, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
4 games in 5 days coming up.
We will see how the team responds.
Much ado about nothing regarding sell-outs. I was very impressed with how full it was during the game. Cleveland? A Sunday night? It was full as any other game.
Campaigning to remove "Free-throw Guy" from the Rose Garden.
The 1st level was pretty empty at the end. Heh.
The upper level was still pretty packed though. SIKE. NO CHALUPA.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 9, 2012 9:07 AM PST up reply actions
(groan)
Breast Gibson.
Thigh slapper.
Seriously though, Gibson stunk so badly last night. I’m increasingly amazed by how good Lebron ever time I see how players on his ex-roster are now performing. They’re all 2nd unit guys, at best.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 9, 2012 9:04 AM PST reply actions
Dont see Felton working long term
He’s got a little Bayless in him……where he can get inot the lane, by his man, and then its 50/50 if anything good happens. I think he’s a starter on a mediocre team-which is what his career has been so far, but I am not sure he is the man to get the Blazers past first round of the playoffs and inot a serious run.
That could change, but he is what he is now and I am not sure its a fit.
Yall crack me up
Never satisfied. Yes he hasn’t been perfect, but his numbers are nearly identical to andre millers last year, plus he is a big part of the reason our team is running at a much faster rate this year. With that faster game there will be more TO’s and mistakes thats just normal. This guy was discussed as a possible all star while playign with the knicks before getting traded to denver. I get some of you may not love the guy, but honestly who else are you going to get? its not like you can just go get a better PG without giving something up. How many starting PG’s are truly better than him out there that would want to come to the blazers? its not like chris paul is coming through the door anytime soon. And if you want to get a better PG through trading then your going to have to give up some of your assets.
by Kazper on Jan 9, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
His FG% is 12% worse than Andre's
And he’s putting up those stats in not only more minutes, but in way more possessions in each game due to our faster pace. It’s honestly pretty ridiculous to imply that he’s playing anywhere near as well as Andre last year (at least statistically).
so lets see here
Player X: 33.4 mins 11.1 FGA/g
Player Y: 32.7 Mins 10.4 FGA/g
Player Z: 30.5 Mins 11.1 FGA/g
X=Felton
Y=Miller 2011
Z=Miller 2010
Yeah youa re so right look at those HUGE differences…. felton is shooting SO MUCH MORE… its the same numbers man
Where did I say he's shooting more?
We play faster, so he has more opportunities to get assists and rebounds, so the raw numbers are similar, but his efficiency has been terrible. There’s a reason advanced stats were developed, because of the raw ones tell such an incorrect story.
As XBlazer fan pointed out, they have a huge discrepancy in PER, and also in WS/48, but really, one guy is shooting 34.8%, the other shot 46%. That’s enough right there to say Miller was playing much better.
Sorry I guess it sounded liek that when you mentioned the more possessions.
But when you look at their numbers they are playing roughly the same mins, shooting the same amount, and averaging about the same stats. The biggest difference is with felton he pushes the ball more which means that the team gets up and down the floor more.
And for the record I absolutely love Miller and his style, but out of the two of them I think felton does a better job of bringing out the potential of a lot of our players, thus the fact that our teams offensive numbers are much higher. Also felton is shooting well below his career average for 3PT% so i am waiting for that to raise up (just like mathews started last year horrible from behind the arc)
Not even comparing Felton to Miller
Completely differnt teams without Roy and with Crash….cant really compare. I am just saying Felton’s game may not be what this team needs, so far. His shooting is worse than advertised so far. As Royster mentions, his efficiency is poor. I dont think he runs the 1/2 court as well as Miller-if I was to compare the two….less peaks and valleys with Miller, steady…which is what he has been his whole career.
Feltons numbers are way down
but his numbers are nearly identical to andre millers last year,
Whether your talking about his own numbers this year as compared to last or this year or compared to Millers last year either way Felton is horrible so far this year. Andre Miller ended up the season last year with a PER around 18 Felton’s PER was around the average 15. This year as of today Felton is 55th in the League @ 9.22 PER whereas Miller is 13th in the league @18.90 PER.
Whether it’s FG%, Assists, TO’s whatever Felton is having a horrible year and Miller is still an above average PG.
Opps I'm wrong
Feltons assists are the same @6.7career to 6.8 this year
His TO’s are higher @2.6 career to 2.9 this year
Millers TO’s are down this year from 2.6 to 1.4
Agree
Look at Dave’s thread from last night in the comments. He points out the lack of Lay-up skills by the team and that Andre Miller is able to lay-up whereas Felton not so much.
We are like 8 games in
and your talking about a new STARTING pg that is running a team he has never been on before. Miller is not starting and he has been in the system before. It makes sense Miller would be doing so much better right out of the gate.
To be completely fair it's not Felton's chemistry that bothers me.
It’s little things like shooting and ball handling that have me concerned.
When you look at the PER numbers that's where you see the seperation
GP… MPG… TS%… AST TO USG… ORR… DRR… REBR.. PER… VA… EWA
Miller
9….. 28.8… .500….. 33.5. 7.8.. 18.9….. 4.3… 10.7… 7.7… 18.91… 30.6… 1.0
Felton
8….. 33.4… .419….. 30.7. 13.1. 20.2… 1.6…. 9.3…. 5.4….. 9.22… -7.1… -0.2
Felton’s performance has been mixed, but I think the main thing where he falls short of Miller is that he is not as fun to watch, even though most of the time he quietly accomplishes about as much as Miller.
I think if Felton would actually score efficiently
and hold onto the ball most of us that are getting critical of him would lay off. It would make him a lot more fun to watch too.
Yeah definitely. 40% shooting would probably win me over
and I’d take 30% from 3pt. Not great by any means. I’m just hoping for “doesn’t completely kill us”.
Once he starts hitting threes we won't worry as much. Hes' TURRIBLE right now from range though.
OSU '06
GForce Crash Wallace FTW!
Felton's biggest contribution so far has been tempo tempo tempo
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Really weird for me being on the wrong (UNC) side of a Duke-UNC PG matchup
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

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