Game 8 Preview: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Portland Trail Blazers
Game Time: 6:00 p.m. TV: CSNNW
Famous slogans from the recent history of the NBA:
- Golden State Warriors 2006-07 "We Believe!"
- Portland Trail Blazers 2007-08 "Rise With Us!"
- Cleveland Cavaliers 2010-11 "Hey guys, we're still in the NBA. No, really! Wait? Where are you going?"
After being jilted in a public dumping that would make the staff of The Bachelorette shake their heads in disgust, the Cleveland Cavaliers spent the 2010-11 season in ignominy. (That's just the other side of Euclid. Look it up.) Fortunately their tortuous performance landed them the #1 overall pick in the 2011 Draft, point guard Kyrie Irving from from Duke. (Translation for the Blazer faithful: He's the guy Portland would have wanted if they couldn't get Nolan Smith.) The good news is the new Cavalier roster is already outperforming last year's model, off to a 4-3 start. The caveat is the combined record of the four teams Cleveland has beaten is 8-24. But last season the Cavaliers were losing those games, so hats off to them.
The Cavs try to overcome their talent gap against most teams by playing 9 guys in heavy rotation with a couple more salted in. Nobody gets much more than 30 minutes per night for them, with veterans Anderson Varejao and Antawn Jamison at the top of the heap, just under 31 apiece. Varejao handles the rebounding at 10 per game, Jamison the scoring at 18. Irving and Anthony Parker start at guard, Omri Casspi at small forward. (Though again, their replacements receive as much floor time as they do.) Those three players are great at shooting three-pointers, pretty lousy scoring from anywhere else. Forwards Alonzo Gee and Tristan Thompson plus shooting guard Daniel Gibson come off the bench with more well-rounded offensive games. Reserve point guard Ramon Sessions is still struggling to find his way.
The Cavs make their way offensively via the three-pointer--which they shoot often and well--paint points, and Varejao's offensive rebounds. They're either at the rim or far away from it. Anything in between gives them trouble. They don't score on the break much. They're so-so at drawing fouls and miserable at hitting foul shots. They're down the middle in most other categories. "Undistinguished" would be the polite way to describe their offense. "Blah" would also do.
Cleveland's defense is another story. They range from "good enough" to "WOW!" depending on the situation. Of particular interest to Portland, they're by far the best transition defense team in this young season and it's not even close. You can score, just not on the break. They're decent in overall percentage allowed, points in the paint, decent rebounders as well. They're not the most feared squad on that end but you had better play smart against them. The Cavaliers have won 3 of their 4 games by keeping their opponent in the 80's. That's point total, not decade.
The interesting style matchup will be Portland's good three-point defense versus Cleveland's three-point offense. We'll also see if the Blazers can run at all versus the Cavalier transition "D". Even if not, though, this should be a solid win for the home squad. The Blazers are more talented by far, have the home court, and can shut down one of the two pillars of the opponent's attack when their offense is semi-anemic even when complete. If Portland doesn't win tonight, something went really wrong in the effort department. Letting Cleveland outwork them for a victory on their own home floor would be a stain on an otherwise bright start to the season. Having lost big in Phoenix just two days ago, the Blazers probably won't let that happen.
Fear The Sword will let you know what it's like to be a Cavs supporter.
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--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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W00tz, I miss the 80s...
OSU '06
GForce Crash Wallace FTW!
by TyboOSU on Jan 7, 2012 10:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Almost positive
I’m almost positive the game is at 6:00 not 7:00
by brandonroy4mvp on Jan 7, 2012 10:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
But do I WANT to know what it's like to be a Cavs fan?
It’s painful enough having boned draft picks. Can’t imagine having gotten it right and then watching the superstar leave, essentially because another town is sexier. That would be like . . . no, there’s no metaphor available. I just can’t feature it.
If any mid-market team ever gets a seminal player again, I’d suggest a full-court press of the most wonderful marriage partners imaginable. Lock that guy down, get his kids into the local schools. Portland fans, train your daughters to do this; we should have another shot in 2026 or so.
Steve Goodman lives.
lock him down?
Lebron James couldn’t have had stronger ties to the community. He grew up there. The woman we has two children with and is marrying grew up there too. The only thing that would have kept Lebron from joining his buddies in South Beach was a title – that’s the only thing missing from his Cleveland experience – and I have doubts that would have done it.
He may have grew up there (Akron)
But he never had any strong allegiances towards that area. I mean sports wise he was never a fan of the Cavs, Indians and Browns but a fan of the Bulls, Yankees and Cowboys. So INHO he never thought of himself as a proud Clevelander.
Ovechkin-Leich-Semin: The greatest line in hockey..............................Tee Hee
Proud supporter of the following clubs: Pittsburgh Penguins, Erie Otters, Columbus Crew, Boston Celtics and the best football clubs in the land: Manchester United F.C.
The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.
by Bradley James McEachern on Jan 8, 2012 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I agree lock him down
Find him the best players out there for him to play with because Clevelad never did that with James, even in his last year as a Cavalier when it became clear he would bolt.
Ovechkin-Leich-Semin: The greatest line in hockey..............................Tee Hee
Proud supporter of the following clubs: Pittsburgh Penguins, Erie Otters, Columbus Crew, Boston Celtics and the best football clubs in the land: Manchester United F.C.
The Manchester United Football Club: Winning countless trophies and making City fans jealous and full of envy since 1902.
by Bradley James McEachern on Jan 8, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Cavs traded for Irving pick
The Cavs did not win the draft lottery and draft Kyrie Irving. They selected Tristan Thompson 4th overall with their own pick. The first pick in the draft was acquired along with Baron Davis from the LA Clippers for Mo Williams.
Also, the Cavs have exactly the same record after seven games as they did last year at 4-3, thanks to a similarly easy opening schedule and an emotional opening night win over the Celtics.
Don’t sleep on these Cavs, man! If they go in with the mentality that since it’s the Cavs and they stink, they’ll lose.
by lawalteral14 on Jan 8, 2012 12:14 AM PST via mobile reply actions
"They don't score on the beak much."
Am I the only one picturing Beaker from the muppets in a basketball uniform patrolling the paint while reading this sentence?
yelling out nonsensical plays to teammates
It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man.
by SGT Lenny on Jan 8, 2012 9:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
never liked beaker's game.
he’s always been a meep first player.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Jan 8, 2012 9:25 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
Since Kyrie Irving looks like the real deal, Cleveland appears to have taken a step in the right direction.
Yet, not all #1 picks at point guard work out well, as John Wall looks like the second-coming of Steve Francis.
"I Am Mine"
Saw a Wall tweet on ESPN where he ranked the cities by his NBA gear sales rate
Right then, figured he would be less about basketball and more about image….
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
who is Steve Francis...?
The ESPN folks rated Wall as #1 in the up and comers….are they THAT wrong?
Since I take it your comparison wasn’t a complement.
WHO IS STEVE FRANCIS?
only the most expensive blazer to never play for the team.
he was pretty much everything bad about Starbury, with none of the joyful irreverence.
cried when he was drafted by the grizzlies, and forced a trade because he didn’t like canada.
could light it up, but could not pass to teammates.
good enough to make the cover of a video game, bad enough to be paid 15 million dollars to not show up ever again and then never get another gig.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
uh cavs aren't as bad as the preview intimates
if we come out playing like we did on friday,we will lose this game.
PHILLY!
If the Blazers shoot 30%, there isn't a team in the league that can't beat them
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Yep, I don't think the Cavs are a bad team
I know they have beaten relatively weak teams, but they have several players playing efficiently in the early season. Their top four guys have PERs higher than 18. I’m not sure Sessions is “struggling to find his way”, as he’s putting up a PER of 20 — the best mark on this team and as good as anyone on the Blazers. These guys will beat us if we don’t come out with a purpose.
if the Blazers came out "playing" like they did on Friday
they would lose to just about anyone. Except maybe a team full of Babbitts.
We need to play Blazers BB in this game and every game.
I know the elite teams know when to coast in a game and when to pour it on, but as AK1984 point out the Blazers are not an elite team and they need to play 48 minutes of BB.
hg
That's never going to happen. It's just not possible. If we were really deep we could hope for that. All it takes to throw this team off
is a couple of long nights from Aldridge. Then you can be sure we’ll see more flops when guys have tired legs.
Felton is in for a 3pt shooting bonanza.
He’s not stretching any defenses shooting 13%.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
I Saw Mass Fatigue...
… in the Phoenix game. That’s going to be a chronic issue (obviously). I’m hoping the blazers don’t just win but get in the habit if doing what Phoenix did to us: win early and rest starters. I believe that will be incredibly important this year. Probably same formula when a loss merely becomes probable rather than certain.
The more Chris Johnson / Nolan Smith I see, the happier I’ll be.
Buck Williams for the hall of fame
by Phizbin on Jan 8, 2012 6:38 AM PST via mobile reply actions
tired of all the "tired" excuses
These are professional athletes who have access to the best conditiong and training teams money can buy. They’re not even 10 games into the season……and the excuse that because LaMarcus missed a WEEK of training camp he’s not in “game shape” is pathetic. What happens when they’re 50 games in? I bet nobody shows up because they’ll all be in wheelchairs sucking oxygen thru a tube waiting to die……..MAN UP!!!!!!
I've seen a few good teams get absolutely stomped already
because they were a step to slow too play NBA ball against a rested squad that came out determined to leave it all on the floor. Apparently it’s going to be a common theme this season.
I agree...
They’re all great athletes: granted. But the fractions of a second at stake in reflexes that are the difference in successful vs unsuccessful efforts matters in relation to fatigue. I think any team can play reasonably good basketball on any given schedule. I think excellent basketball requires a touch more.
The season’s economy will be how to best manage a players fuel on relation to the task at hand.
Buck Williams for the hall of fame
by Phizbin on Jan 8, 2012 9:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
When playing team ball, it only takes one out of five to mess up the team
That is why injuries are so plaguing, not so much that they can’t be replaced but it messes up the timing.
Also, NO EXCUSE INTENDED, but this is still a young season and the Blazers are still learning to play together. I believe in them to get through most adversities, but some times a CP3 or a Nash happens.
The big thing is all three loses including Utah has been on the road and all three used ball pressure, getting back on D, and swarming LMA to beat the Blazers. That is what we have to learn to solve.
hg
step *too slow *to
hate it when I do that lol
officercosta.
I believe training camp is usually about a month long. This year it was only a week due to the shortened schedule.
I believe “bigs” take longer than a week to get into playing shape.
ESPECIALLY if they’ve had a heart arrhythmia over the summer…we don’t know to what extent but it may have affected the amt of cardio LMA was doing…
There are usually 7 pre-season games…and most of these aren’t back to backs.
The team got into Phoenix at 3am.
They should have traveled during the day..the next day.
They used to.
Nate McMillan changed this since they didn’t do well on the first game when travelling last year.
Remember Blazer fans,
when Kyrie went down injured, Nolan stepped up and won an NCAA title.
Lets get the Rhino the wig and see if we can fool the Cavs into leaving Varejo here and taking Rhino back to Cleveland.
Let’s Go Blazers !!!!
just win baby !
thats the best idea I've heard all day
I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Sean in Vancouver on Jan 8, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
When Nolan won that NCAA title, Kyrie wasn't even at Duke.
Nolan won as a junior in 09-10.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Funny thing is every time the guys say something like "this win means nothing unless we get the next one too"
I cringe. I don’t know if that’s standard wording for “I can’t feel my legs but we’re going to try” or what but it seems like every time we hear a sentence like that in a post game interview we’re pretty much doomed.
I really wan’t to see Nic find his shot in this game. Crawford completely boat murdered us in the Suns game but Nic was just barely better at 4-13. Probably because he wasn’t getting the ball in places to score but I really want to see him shooting more consistently this year. There’s no reason for Batum to have a stat line like Crawford in chuck mode.
It may be my imagination, but...
…I thought Batum was the recipient of a lot of flaming bag passes. He was getting open in transition but nobody was finding him. Crawford seemed to be looking for his own shot, and it was frustrating Batum (on more than a few plays he was wide open, got ignored, dropped his arms to his sides and drifted to the perimeter).
I think the second unit offense would function a lot better if he was getting more touches. Batum seems to make pretty good decisions with the ball. I want to see more of him and Crawford running the PnR instead of the old You stand in the corner while I go to work. If I can’t make some magic, get ready to take a 3pter against the clock. Aw, what the heck, I’ll just take a highly contested 2pter and save you the trouble!
This ain’t the Hawks, Jamal. You’ve got options.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Hence the “Probably because he wasn’t getting the ball in places to score”. His shot has been off in games where he was getting the ball in all the right places though. Same last season. Just hoping he finds his confidence or whatever it is that’s holding him back.
Definitely looks like Crawford is cramping his style a bit. We really do need someone to run the bench so Jamal can’t get into black hole mode as easy. The crazy thing is Crawford is actually the type of guy that actually believes he’s going to make every shot regardless of how many he’s missed.
Sometimes he’s going to shoot himself into poverty but other games he’ll be unstoppable.
What would happen if Nate made Nic run point with EWill and Crawford on the wings and Craig/Kurt? It’d be interesting because Nic handled the ball a lot in France and seems like he needs to be challenged to “be the man”. He’d be against mostly bench players. Jamal could bring the ball up if they trap a lot or whatever. We$ could play minutes instead of EWill to make a fairly potent line-up.
Big question there is would Nic be able to hold onto the ball.
Mostly wondering because Crawford is having trouble running an offense that doesn’t include him breaking down 4 or 5 guys and putting up some off balance fade-away jump shot.
i like this idea.
...Nic run point with EWill and Crawford on the wings and Craig/Kurt?
if nic could handle that (literally and figuratively), it would be a very flexible second unit. for example, instead of ewill, gerald could run with nic while the rest of the starters get a breather.
by williamswonder on Jan 8, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Portland Trail Blazers 2007-08 “Rise With Us!”
Los Angeles Clippers 2008-2009 “Rise”
Oklahoma City Thunder 2009-2010 “Rise Together”
Cleveland Cavaliers 2009-2010 “Rise Up”
dinasour type of guys choir boys
These slogan writers will do anything to get a "Rise" out of us......
I know that was a groaner, but I think the groaning from this comment will be nothing compared to the groaning from Blazer fans if the Blazers don’t win this game.
I drives me crazy when the Blazers kick butt against good team, and then lay an egg against a team that is obviously weaker.
LET THE LAMONSTER ERA BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They were tired in Phoenix.
Our weakness was exposed. Lack of depth at big men.
Nothing against KT or MC. <3 Those guys, but they arent young, and equal our center position. LA cant carry the load at the 4 alone. A football player is not the answer at a back up.
The bench has to play to develop. CJ and Nolan wont get better from the bench.
How does Nico develop rythm without regular minutes ? This season will be this way until the bench is solid.
We have a 3 man big roation.
I still would take both twins : Lopez with the hair and Markieff as a Blazer all day every day.
Young guns dont have to all be pgs.
just win baby !
2001-06 Trailblazers
All Rise, court is now in session, the honorable so-and-so presiding…
by fitsnstarts on Jan 8, 2012 2:47 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
The test ...
1. Can the 8 or so rotation players build a big enough lead that the bottom bench guys can play for long stretches?
2. Can Coach Nate go against his every instinct and play the bottom bench guys when the game is well in hand?
3. Will the bottom bench guys rise to the occasion and play well enough to make this a regular blowout- game occurrence, giving LMA/Camby/Felton/Wallace and co much needed time off?
"All is vanity and vexation of spirit."
http://year5000.bandcamp.com
If anyone can do it, its Nate. Imo.
He has proved that. Nolan and CJ arent that much of a stretch for him. We have a back to back against teams with bigs later in the week. Teams like Cleveland are perfect for Nolan and CJ , IMO.
Put them out early starters, then relax and develop your bench, and give the front office some trade bait. EW is the poster child for the Blazers 3 year guard plan. Trade him so he can play somewhere like all those before him ;)
Go Blazers !!!!
just win baby !
The Blazers have better stop using schedule as an excuse!
Their schedule was easy up to now! They have to play Orlando on Wed after the Clips on Tue. Then they go on a six game seven day road trip! Orland has two nights off after playing Sac tonight. It would be nice if we could play well against them and maybe impress what’s his name that this is the team to consider next summer.
I know Dave has painstakingly pointed out that we have three main problems. No play-maker that can win a game by himself, No low post game and poor interior defense to counter the low post game. After looking at player stat lines, I have a few observations myself. As most everyone has noticed Felton is playing well below his previous capability. He was suppose to be an upgrade over Miller due to his ability to hit some 3s and spread the court. Well that hasn’t happened yet but sloppy play has. Millers PER was around 18 last year and he’s putting the same numbers up in Denver this year. Felton’s PER is 11.1 so far this year. Millers career FG% is .459 (as good as Roy or Kobe). Felton’s career FG% is .412. Miller’s assist’s number is 7.2. Felton is 6.7 and that where he is at this season. Miller was teaching Aldridge where to position himself for easy points in the paint ala passes and lobs. This was stated by Aldridge himself recently. So far this year Felton is a serious downgrade.
Some other things to note: Matthews numbers are pretty good this year hitting .433 of his threes and a .450 FG%. For those of you wanting Batum to take his starting position well his numbers are the same as his career numbers. @24 mins a game (now and career) his career FG% is the same as Mathews @ .460 but this year it’s down to .359 with .375 from 3. I noticed they both (Matthews and Batum) average 1 Assist per game both career and this season. Whereas Crawford is averaging 3 assists (appears to be less of a black hole than thought. If you’re not getting an assist from either Felton, Crawford or Camby (3) you’re probably not getting one.
"So far this year Felton is a serious downgrade."
I’m hoping Felton settles into the season as he learns the team. We’ve only played 7 games so far and I’ve already found myself missing Dre in at least 4.
Funny thing is Raymond is shooting 13% from 3pt. Dre is shooting over double that. Ray has attempted 22 this season while Dre has attempted 14. Ray 9pts and Dre 12pts on 3s. How irritating lol
This isn't what it might look like
Some other things to note: Matthews numbers are pretty good this year hitting .433 of his threes and a .450 FG%. For those of you wanting Batum to take his starting position well his numbers are the same as his career numbers. @24 mins a game (now and career) his career FG% is the same as Mathews @ .460 but this year it’s down to .359 with .375 from 3. I noticed they both (Matthews and Batum) average 1 Assist per game both career and this season. Whereas Crawford is averaging 3 assists (appears to be less of a black hole than thought. If you’re not getting an assist from either Felton, Crawford or Camby you’re probably not getting one.
Felton and Crawford are the only players that create opportunities for teammates off the dribble – traditional sources for guard-generated assists. All other rotation players on this team are finishers rather than creators.
Of the other rotation players who might be able to do something off the dribble – Batum is probably the only candidate to start plays – off the pick and roll or high/low, inside out game favored by McMillan.
However, neither Batum nor any other wing is currently featured in a point role – and therefore we will see few assists generated from those positions…
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Yeah I realize
that we’re not expecting that from either Matthews and Batum. I was just going back and forth looking at the stats and writing and did a poor job of expressing myself. Rereading that is painful, lol. I guess I was pointing out that they are not Roy or Kobe type play makers which is kind of redundant as everyone knows that anyway but it was just referring to Dave’s point of the team not having that.
Cleveland 4-3, really? Bite the Curb Boyz!
Couldn’t believe it, but the schedule is very weak. Four wins have come against teams I wouldn’t call top 16 teams. And the 3 Losses were against Indiana and Toronto X 2.
Bottom line is the Blazers need to curb stomp this team after that PHO loss to get the bad taste out of their mouth. We are at home, there is no excuse. I expect a huge beat-down tonight. A beat-down like when you are University of Oregon football and you are taking on Missouri State and win 56-7. That’s what you do to them (Cleveland), you curb stomp ’em.
Lets go Blazers!!!
by Cjones10 on Jan 8, 2012 3:09 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I mean if Luke and Armon are not gonna play....
Cut them. Cut them. Sign ANYONE who has a chance to see the floor so we can play more than 8 players!!!! ITS BEEN 2 YEARS!! I see no change or chance for either of them to play basketball. Unless secretly, Babbit is the next Lary Bird and we are holding him as a secret weapon 4 the Finals!!!!
Calm down. It hasn't been 2 years. This IS their 2nd year.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
I agree with Rip
I’ve seen nothing from these bums. Sometimes it’s best to move your bums onto another town so you don’t have to see or smell them anymore.
They're still assests. You need to raise the value of them somehow, and if you plan to sell they need to sell high the right time.
The D-League is a good way to evaluate where they stand.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Bite the curb Cleveland...Cavs 4-3 that I...?
Couldn’t believe, but the schedule is very weak. Four wins have come against teams I wouldn’t call top 16 teams. And the 3 Losses were against Indiana and Toronto X 2.
Bottom line is the Blazers need to curb stomp this team after that PHO loss to get the bad taste out of their mouth. We are at home, there is no excuse. I expect a huge beat-down tonight. A beat-down like when you are University of Oregon football and you are taking on Missouri State and win 56-7. That’s what you do to them (Cleveland), you curb stomp ’em.
Lets go Blazers!!!
I'm sure this has been brought up already, but
we look terrible.

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