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Game 7 Recap: Portland Trail Blazers 77, Phoenix Suns 102

In a Nutshell

On the night of Epiphany--when the Three Wise Men reportedly showed up at the manger with gifts for a newborn king--Steve Nash, Jared Dudley, Marcin Gortat and the Suns bring the Blazers a box of Picked Your Dribble, a jar of Stopped Your Drive and a whole camel load of Kicked Your Butt en route to a 25-point win.

Extra Note

Thank you to ESPN for actually managing to show the entirety of the West Coast game in their Friday double-header, something TNT seems congenitally unable to accomplish on Thursday nights.

In a related note, darn you to ESPN for actually showing the entirety of this game.

Game Flow/Take-Away Points

We're going to combine the first two sections of the recap tonight because the game flow was essentially the same throughout and dovetails exactly with the take-away points.

For those looking for any kind of positive for the Blazers, watch the first two minutes of this game and then shut it off. Very early on LaMarcus Aldridge caught the ball with his feet in the paint once and scored on a quick hook shot. A little later he caught a pass during a baseline cut and dunked. Those were the ONLY two times his feet touched paint in scoring position during the entire quarter.

A few times early on the Blazers got fouled on drive attempts.

Other than that, here was the story: Every time the Blazers tried to drive it seemed like they turned over the ball. That's an exaggeration, of course, but when they didn't turn it over they missed the shot on those drives. That includes the following names: Felton, Wallace, Crawford, Matthews. No matter who took it off the dribble all night long, it was bad. Every time the Blazers attempted a pass to the interior in the first quarter they turned it over just like they had been dribbling it. Every time LaMarcus Aldridge made any move towards the paint and shot he missed, leaving his only viable offense in that customary 12-18 foot range that Blazer fans know so well. That wasn't near enough. The Phoenix Suns are not great at defending the paint. The Blazers made them look like world-beaters tonight. Portland couldn't generate anything inside if it wasn't off of a clear fast-break and those were rare.

After a few minutes of futility the Blazers bailed on getting the ball inside at all, settling for the mid-to-long-range jumpers that are their security blanket. Tonight they missed plenty of them. The only real respite from the Jumperville Express came during the first part of the third quarter when Raymond Felton tried to provide a spark by driving inside. It was short-lived, middling in effectiveness, and not near enough as the Blazers were flirting with a 20-point deficit by then.

Another major cause of futility for Portland was their inability to defend. Even when they were making shots early and looking good Phoenix streaked out to a lead because the Blazers couldn't get a hand in everyone's faces. Forced to collapse inside they left jump-shooters open. Closing out on the jump-shooters they couldn't prevent the drive or interior buckets. Neither could the scramble force turnovers. Instead, as we said just above, the Blazers committed them instead. The only thing going right for the Blazers was their board work but they even ceded that after awhile, letting the Suns off easy.

Portland tried to solidify the defense in the second period by playing zone but it didn't help. Shooting under 30% for the first half led to a 34-point total at the halftime buzzer. The third period was a mess of turnovers and sloppy shots for both sides but Phoenix still won it. The fourth period featured the second units of both teams. Phoenix won that too.

In short, everything that typifies Portland's weaknesses--lack of interior offense in the post or the drive, turning over the ball, inability to effectively defend the whole floor or stop high-percentage attempts, dependence on forcing turnovers that sometimes just don't come, need to rebound every second of the game or get killed, slipping easily into jump shots, desperately needing to hit threes but being streaky in that department--showed up tonight all in one game. That made the team that just beat the Lakers look awful against the much lesser Suns.

Now, here's the take-away point: Say all you want about the second night of a back-to-back, emotional letdown, or being on the road. (And good luck getting away from any of those issues in this compacted season.) Like it or not, this is the same team that played last night. The fluctuation in results is inherent in Portland's style and personnel. This is going to be part of the story of Portland's season. The same team you love beating OKC and LA you're also going to groan at losing to Phoenix and the Clippers because it really is that clear how to rob this team of its effectiveness. Only superhuman efforts will overcome that. The reality of this league, especially in a shortened season, is that superhuman efforts don't come every night. So you're going to see games go this way even when you also see the Blazers beat quality teams.

Right now the Blazers can't help a lot of this, other than making a commitment to not drift to the perimeter quite so easily. The one thing they can do--that I believe needs to be done--is that someone needs to go poke a finger in LaMarcus Aldridge's chest and say, "You will set up with your feet in the paint. We will get you the ball. You will then score with a single, quick move like you are capable of doing." No more long dribbles into the paint. No more ineffective, uncomfortable, pressured shots after those dribbles. No more, "Gosh that almost went in and it seems like he should be making more of those." This team desperately needs someone to set up inside. LaMarcus is the only guy capable of both getting there and scoring. Feet in the paint, period. Feed that position until it's stopped. Otherwise you have to admit the reality that if the Phoenix Suns can shut down your interior play so effectively anybody can do so. You then throw yourself on the mercy of the other team's heart and will. If the Blazers do not solve this they will not ultimately succeed even if they do manage to win some regular season games in the meantime.

Individual Notes

With games like this I don't generally list individual accomplishments. Any positive ones didn't matter much. The negative ones just seem too much like piling on. Just a few examples to flavor the misery soup (realizing that these performances did not kill the Blazers more than any others, it was the whole team):

  • Gerald Wallace 0-6, 1 point, 2 rebounds, 4 TO's
  • Jamal Crawford 3-14 in 21 minutes for 10 points with 4 TO's as well
  • Nicolas Batum 4-13, 0-5 from the arc
  • Kurt Thomas was the only regular who had anything close to a nice game

We did get a chance to see the deeper reserves play extended minutes in the blowout. That included Craig Smith, Nolan Smith, Chris Johnson, and Eliot Williams. Johnson had a couple small moments but the only guy who really opened eyes at all was Williams. He had a couple of sweet moves at the rim...a total hop-fest. If he has any handles and any ability to play he might be able to change the backcourt look a little. But we're a long way from that at the moment. The others didn't look remarkable even against the Suns bench.

Not-So-Fun Stats of the Night

  • Blazers 25-77, 32.5% overall
  • Blazers 2-19, 10.5% from the three-point arc
  • Portland did draw 35 foul shots, 10 more than the Suns. That's pretty close to the only clear positive from the night.
  • Blazers and Suns tied with 15 fast break points apiece. That wasn't in the plan.
  • Suns 40 points in the paint, Portland 32. That really wasn't in the plan.
  • Blazers commit 3 more turnovers than the Suns and Phoenix outscores Portland 21-8 in points after turnovers. That really, really, really wasn't in the plan.
  • Zero offensive rebounding advantage for Portland. Blazers lose the battle of the boards overall by 9.

Final Thoughts

The Blazers draw Cleveland at home on Sunday and then a revenge game in the Rose Garden versus the Clippers, so everybody should feel better by Tuesday night and the record will look just as shiny.

Bright Side Of The Sun has the Phoenix angle on their best game of the season.

Your Trail Blazers vs Suns boxscore.

Your monthly Jersey Contest scoreboard. Scroll to the bottom and select tonight's game if you want to see your score for this particular game. (Most of you shouldn't.)

Your form for Sunday's game.

--Dave (blazersub@gmail.com)

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Back on the earth,guys.

The landing sometimes is painful.
The Blazers have a lot of work to do.They must learn to change the pace of the game
to slow it down when necessary, to control it, especially in back to back games.
Gerald Wallace becomes an indicator of the performance of the team.When he has one of his off-days, it seems the whole team do the same.

by prostofen on Jan 6, 2012 11:23 PM PST reply actions  

I almost stopped watching early in the 4th

but fortunately I didn’t because I saw:
1) CJ blocked two guys’ shots on the same play
2) Elliot Williams make a very sweet move to the hoop……..AND FINISH!
3) Craig and Nolan Smith
4) Um, that’s really about it, except it was nice to hear Hubie Brown.
Absolutely fantastic timing, Dave, on your assessment of the team after the Laker game. If only the Blazers were as consistently good as you….

by thaisteve on Jan 6, 2012 11:30 PM PST reply actions  

The timing was accidental

or at least incidental. All of the games have featured those characteristics to a greater or lesser extent. Actually I would have preferred the Blazers find a way to win this game!

I really think getting into Aldridge and getting him with his feet in the paint when he catches is the short-term fix. You have to ask if he can take it all season I supposed, but then again you have to ask if the Blazers can run an 8-man rotation all season whatever they do. I think you just go for every win you can now and don’t worry about anything else. That means getting LMA inside pronto. The first move he made in this game is the archetype for what he should be doing.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 7, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

while i do think tonight illustrated nearly all of the Blazers shortcomings

I find it hard to take anything from a game that the blazers played like a scrimmage. when an entire starting five has an off night on both ends I think it is less indicative of the teams inherent flaws than it is of their fatigue and lack of interest. Nate should have emptied the bench in the second quarter not the fourth. We would have had a chance.

by skott75 on Jan 7, 2012 12:27 AM PST up reply actions  

"Nate should have emptied the bench in the second quarter not the fourth."

Portland isn’t San Antonio. And that’s a good way to piss off upper management.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 7, 2012 12:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I seen on several occasions when LMA got the ball there were four defenders around him

If we are going to play that type offense we need to make outside shots.
The high low post was working for a while, but the guards went back to jump-shooting

hg

by BBK on Jan 7, 2012 7:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if I agree with this for this particular game

The Blazers tried to pound it inside to Wallace and Aldridge for most of the third quarter with zero results. When no one is hitting anything from the outside, teams will pack the paint. The Suns had two or three guys waiting for anyone who tried to enter the paint from a post up or via the drive. In today’s NBA, no one is effective in the paint with zero outside shooting.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jan 7, 2012 7:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Dave is too much of a gentleman to say this

But I’m not: “[He] told you so.”
Dave’s article yesterday completely nailed the Blazers’ weaknesses, and the Suns game exposed it. Would it were not so. But I hope the chorus of over-optimists who pounced on Dave yesterday for being a “debbie downer” takes notice that events bore out the accuracy of his
analysis.

I hope the team can find ways to address these issues. In the meantime, I’ll still be watching with bated breath and hope in my heart.

by Saba on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't think

that one game would prove anything one way or another. I actually rather expected the Blazers to win this one.

That said, the observations in this game have been present for all 7 of them to a greater or lesser extent. The only difference being how much the Blazers have to pay for them. Phoenix made Portland pay a ton.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 7, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions  

But look at it objectively

The Blazers got National recognition after the Lakers game and instantly shot up in the elite status. as often said they like to be under the radar so no teams prepare for them. It is possible the Phoenix is doing the same playing bad where teams don’t prepare for them then go for the juggler.

Solution stay under the radar and play every game as the “UNDERDOG”

hg

by BBK on Jan 7, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Why does Portland insist on sucktastic to prove they can lose?

Any game they play competitive, they win.

On the bright side – Elliot Williams. On the dark side – we have some home warriors that are not road warriors.

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 7, 2012 12:00 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Can we be successful without Wallace having a big game?

Also, I watched every minute I could of this game. I’ve missed basketball that much.

I thought Rudy would be the perfect 6th man. Come back Ruuudy!

by llamaiguana on Jan 7, 2012 12:00 AM PST reply actions  

I put this loss entirely on the coachin staff

There were several obvious mismatches in this game. Example: Wallace vs Hill. Aldridge vs Frye. Anyone vs Lopez. And stop shootin the 3! It is not gonna happen tonight! To further clarify the Wallace vs Hill mismatch. You feed Wallace in the post against Hill, Wallace misses, ok, he missed, it happens. 9 times outta 10 Wallace is gonna score in that situation. Next offensive possession: Walllace vs Hill; you feed Wallace in the post against Hill, Wallace misses, ok, he missed again, it happens. 18 times outta 20 Wallace is gonna score there. Next offensive posssesion: Wallace vs Hill; you feed Wallace in the post….

Long story short; you feed Wallace in the post 30 times?
He scores at least 54 points, probably more with the ‘and ones.’

kObe iS thE aNtiChRiSt

by Brendan Holladay on Jan 7, 2012 12:27 AM PST reply actions  

Having read through this three times

I still have no idea what you’re saying here.

by Royster on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

If there was any guaranteed 90 percent shot

Why would we even watch, have to disagree.

by guybudpal on Jan 7, 2012 12:58 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

LMA vs. Nash

is the match-up I found most difficult to watch over and over.

by ICanCheerLouder on Jan 7, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Yup

Phoenix is not a good defensive team, but they’ve had our number on that end since the playoff series.

Meanwhile, the Blazers should be a good defensive team, but we do too much stupid stuff on the defensive end against the Suns. Aldridge is a great p’n’r defender, but he cannot guard Steve Nash effectively. Any other PG in the league, I’m ok with it, but you’ve got to keep Aldridge off of Nash.

Nash turns the ball over all the time. Put Wesley, Jamal, or Nic on him and try to help him out.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 7, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Worse than Gortat on Batum?

Or Frye on Mathews????

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 7, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I just couldn't bear watching

LMA’s All-Star chances diminish every time Nash left him in the dust.

by ICanCheerLouder on Jan 7, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

huh?

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 7, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I know this wouldn't have made much of a difference in this game, but...

I’m disappointed that the Felton, Batum, Wallace, Aldridge, Camby lineup has only played 9 minutes this season, and only been featured in 3 games. I see potential there.

Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers

by Adam Randall on Jan 7, 2012 1:00 AM PST reply actions  

Agreed.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 7, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Two things that I observed

Why does nate switch all screens. All phx does is have a post set the screen and PRESTO you have aldridge guarding nash and frye guarding felton… they had mismatches bc instead of playing hard and fighting through screens we’d switch. Seems to be our gameplan against phoenix for years now and it has never worked!
Next, in a condensed season, Nate has to, open the bench a little more. Does he think our 8-man rotation will survive this season? Its their 7th game in 10 days, give the bench some minutes, let elliot and craig get some more time. I can’t imagine nates game plan for the back-back-back game! Ive heard that we have a deeper bench than most, I hope we’ll see it, soon.
Lastly, I think crawford is good but I was hoping to see more batum in the second unit but JC brings the ball up, shimmys and shoots 90% of the time! I watch batum in the second unit and he just seems pissed and unmotivated to get open bc he wont be getting the ball. Id love too see more plays ran through him, just watching him destroy in euroball when he was being agressive and the offense fed through him, sure would be nice to see.
Any thoughts?
DC

by RepTHEpinwheel on Jan 7, 2012 1:03 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

"Why does nate switch all screens."

It’s a schematic thing. For years, Portland has had to suffer from god-awful, piss-poor pick-and-roll defense because of it.

Another team suffering through this right now is New York, which stupidly hired the overrated Mike Woodson to be D’Antoni’s defensive coordinator.

http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/01/05/knicks-switch-themselves-into-oblivion/

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 7, 2012 1:06 AM PST up reply actions  

This game seemed to be the first time this season they exclusively switched

I have noticed more this year a lot of the big guys shading out and allowing the guard to recover and then rotating back inside more than any other year. Am I crazy or have you seen this too?

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jan 7, 2012 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

That was my takeaway as well

I was starting to understand why Nate uses so much pressure defense and traps. It seemed to be working well before this game. The defense had a Rob Ryan-feel to it, where you can’t really predict the scheme and exploit the mismatches because you’ve just got guys everywhere.

I’m chalking this one up to poor conditioning and tired legs. We’ll see how the season plays out.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 7, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I had the same thoughts

In fact doing the Lakers game, I was commenting on JC taking all the shots. Sure they all went in, but that is alienating everybody else. Ya, no turn-overs, but few assist. I don’t see this as being good for chemistry.

hg

by BBK on Jan 7, 2012 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn't

get the feeling this was the core message from yesterday’s comments. Still this loss is disappointing, but there’ll be many more like this in this crazy season.

by Behemot on Jan 7, 2012 2:02 AM PST up reply actions  

They're over at The Bright Side of the Sun

Claiming that this win proves that they’re not an aging team on the decline that won’t make it to the playoffs.

by BlazerTag on Jan 7, 2012 3:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I searched Ben's thread for the word "elite" (all 77 posts)

and it was used a grand total of once…to refer to the opposing team’s frontcourt.

by thaisteve on Jan 7, 2012 3:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, OK, I went back and took a look.

I’m happy to see that in your opinion the Blazers are an above average defensive team, if I read that right. I’ll take that. I’d take anything after such a sucky loss.

by thaisteve on Jan 7, 2012 5:49 AM PST up reply actions  

The def core is, in general, vs 3/4

We can handle big 2’s, 3/4 but will struggle against quick 1’s and smallish/quick 2’s, and large 5’s. That shouldn’t be a surprise. I feel with a commitment to D we can be better than average, but not elite, given the problems with dealing with the edges of the spectrum.

by aces_dad on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 AM PST up reply actions  

The PHX loss was less wrt D, though, than v poor O

As much respect as I have for LMA I gotta agree with Dave here. He’s by far our best chance for generating consistent efficient offense. Yet, he prefers to play a basket-facing style like Dirk, without the chops to generate / hit mid range jumpers with his efficiency.

As much as Zach R. is villified around here, I wish LMA was as ‘greedy’ or perhaps even ‘driven’ to get the ball from 15’ and shoot from within 5’ as Zach is. Zach has all these moves where he ends up with a little left hand hook while using his off hand to protect. Anyway I know it’s a tangent but LMA should have gotten many more interior looks against PHX than he did and it seems it doesnt just take an offensive Giant to do so, just one greedy / driven enough to get to the rim repeatedly.

by aces_dad on Jan 8, 2012 1:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey AK1984, elite teams has bad games also.

I’m still here and I think we are as elite as anybody in the Western Conference.

hg

by BBK on Jan 7, 2012 7:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, all teams -- even the best -- are susceptible to bad games.

That said, the Trail Blazers are far from being elite. However, an argument can be made that no Western Conference team looks elite this season. That’s why I argue an experienced San Antonio Spurs team is built to make a deep playoff run, so long as everyone there is healthy come the postseason.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 7, 2012 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Rookie Tim Duncan played BIG minutes for that team

No current team really combines the combination of a young star, veterans, and depth that Spurs team had. If the Clippers can add some depth at the 4/5 and 2/3, they may be the closest. The L*kers, with Bynum, may also have a case, if their bench shows up this season and Kobe doesn’t shoot them out of the playoffs. However, Brown and VDN are several tiers behind Pops, so we’ll see.

One thing is for sure, though: young, deep teams were favored in the playoffs of the last shortened season, NOT old injury prone teams like this years San Antonio Spurs.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 7, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

People forget just how weird those playoffs were, at least in the East

Not only did an 8 seed make the finals, but you also had the 3 seed getting upset in the first round. Not sure we can extrapolate too much about young legs being important in the playoffs, though, given that the other Eastern conference finalist was a fairly ancient Pacers team.

by Royster on Jan 7, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that's true.

And that Pacers team was similar to this years Spurs in the depth they had and the ability to keep their minutes low. Without Manu, though, the Spurs don’t have that main scorer that the Pacers had in Reggie.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 7, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I use the word contender. Imo, the Bulls are the only elite team with depth right now.

Tired legs are going to happen to every team with the schedule this season.

Beat LA hangover from the start last night.

I’m still not impressed Rhino. He’s slow and any big who can hit an outside shot will score on him. Were only as strong as the weakest link in a playoff series.

CJ had how many blocks in how long ? Nose for the ball. Keep eating !!

Nolan HAS to play to rookie out of him. Give him more time against Kyrie please :)

EW has to flash if the Blazers ever want to get any value for him or Babbitt. I’ve seen the 3 year plan for years. Trade bait imo.

Dont blame Nate for player depth. If you want to talk managment, move a guard, the Rhino and the dead weight at center for a young center and another back up for LA, and this team is a lock as a contender for years .

Go Blazers !!

just win baby !

by FrenchieFan on Jan 7, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Well we lost and it sucked.

but I just enjoy hearing Mike and Mike chit chat during a blowout loss.

WITH ODEN ON OUR SIDE

by bowdown on Jan 7, 2012 2:07 AM PST reply actions  

No kidding

Making fun of Robin Lopez was the only reason I kept watching.

by guybudpal on Jan 7, 2012 2:14 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

haha yeah

why was he so mad anyways? Remember when Shaq stared down Lopez….I felt embaressed for him. lol

WITH ODEN ON OUR SIDE

by bowdown on Jan 7, 2012 2:35 AM PST up reply actions  

He fouled out

Pretty sure he said " That’s Bull(manure)" after he did, at least thats what it looked like. Not sure why he was so emotional is a blow out like that. Yeah that was classic with Shaq .

by guybudpal on Jan 7, 2012 3:40 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

dude is VERY compitive

he once kicked trough a door cuz he felt he had a bad practice

Enough Bitchin' lets do this

by 2NASHTY on Jan 7, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I consider myself lucky for missing this game in its entirety

I was at a friends bbq. I had a couple of polite chances to check the game score, saw the painfulness of it, moved on, got home checked to see if it was true. SHO NUFF! DAMN we blew our entire wad on the L*kers and had nothing for PHX. Bummer. Oh well, this doesnt say much to me. We will still be a top seed in West, mark my words. Dont let this one get yall down, back to backs are tuff, we need condish and its still early. This shows we were tired more than we suck IMO. Regardless of what the boxscore says.

Regardless of the boxscore, remember that at 3am, ramen and cheezits sound good, but unless your really drunk, they arent that good.

by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 7, 2012 2:53 AM PST reply actions  

Two takeaways:

Wallace struggles mightily on the road (at least offensively). And Aldridge’s game takes a dive when he feels fatigue in his legs. He doesn’t have the girth/strength of a Shaq or Howard so he can’t just body away defenders to generate easy buckets like dunks and putbacks at the rim. So, on a night when his legs appear to have no lift, he’ll miss all those sweet midrange jumpers and mini-hook shots he didn’t the previous night against LA. I don’t know why he’d be feeling fatigue considering he only logged in 33 minutes against the Lakers. Whatever the case, on a night like last night, you sort of need your star to be a dominant force to give you a fighter’s chance. I’m a little surprised and disappointed that wasn’t the case. Thus, I have to agree with Dave’s critique on Aldridge.

by Stryder9 on Jan 7, 2012 6:36 AM PST reply actions  

Interior play gets harder and harder when you can't hit an outside shot

Shaq’s and Howard’s teams lost too when they shot 30%.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jan 7, 2012 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah.........having to go to work everyday,is real hard on some people.

My heart didn’t skip a beat, but some others sure did. Was everyone really surprised?……pity.

We must endeavor to persevere.

by Supercourse on Jan 7, 2012 6:40 AM PST reply actions  

this game was a wakeup call

just in case the team was starting to believe too much in their record and their ability to beat anyone without putting in the work.

i would expect a pretty strong bounce back after they let this loss simmer for a day or two.

by SaveOden on Jan 7, 2012 7:27 AM PST reply actions  

“I guess I consider myself lucky for missing this game in its entirety”

As someone who watched the game, I can confirm that you are truly blessed to have missed this abomination.

by lsjogren on Jan 7, 2012 8:01 AM PST reply actions  

Why the Blazers weren't effective inside should not be a mystery

They started off the game getting some inside buckets and missing horribly from the outside. The Suns may not be a strong defensive team in the interior; but once they figured out they didn’t have to cover anyone beyond 10 feet, they packed the paint and forced the Blazers to prove they could hit from the outside or score inside with three guys draped on them. The refs allowed them to be physical, rightly so, and the Blazers never did anything to force them to spread out and cover the perimeter.
I had the exact opposite reaction to this game than Dave. They tried to pound it inside for most of the third quarter with no results. They needed to spread out and run cutters to free up space in the interior but this probably would not have done much to change anything without a perimeter player getting hot.
I didn’t see Nate’s post game but I am willing to wager he at some point said “We just didn’t hit shots.”

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jan 7, 2012 8:14 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Was this game any different then the last game of the play-offs against phoenix?

They swarmed LMA and dared the out side shooters to beat them. It was blamed on to Dre not being able to hit outside shots. They took Dre and LMA out of the game. This game they took Raymond and LMA out of the game, same results, at that time Rudy had his head in cloud nine or somewhere, this time the Sniper couldn’t get his 3 ball out of the holster same results.

You have to admit that JC tried to open up the middle with shot after shot, after shot, after shot.

hg

by BBK on Jan 7, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Ray's 3pt % is something like 13% this year.

That will definitely change. He will be in better shape sooner than later.

by Natsthecat on Jan 7, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey I wasn't shooting down Ray

Just this game. I am not down on any of the Blazers.

hg

by BBK on Jan 7, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, lousy shooting vs great shooting

was what it sounded like on the radio. Nash was ‘lights out’, and once you are behind throwing bricks, you be done. Hungry Phoenix at home had a good night for them. The Blazers off their ‘big win’ walked into a buzz saw and got buzzed.
With this condensed season, and some back to back to backs, conditioning, mental toughness, and bench utilization are going to be big. Nate may have to start forcing in the bench a lot more than he is accustomed to. Stable roles has its advantages, but when the ‘regulars’ are running on fumes, a fresh guy needs to get some minutes. Actually, ‘conditioning’ is still in progress. Hopefully they will improve at back to back play, though basic biology may limit what a body can recover in a day.

Somewhere Michael Jordan is smiling at Gerald Wallace Blazer highlights.

by Berkeley on Jan 7, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

She's got man hands.

Next time that commercial comes on (shouldn’t be long), take a look at them mitts. You can barely see the sandwich in there.

Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers

by Adam Randall on Jan 7, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I get easily distracted by some of her other....facets

Never have looked at her hands.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 7, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, a roommate had to point it out.

Now I hardly notice her other…facets. Sometimes I hate living with people.

Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers

by Adam Randall on Jan 7, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Life would be soooooooo much better without people*

*The ones that don’t look like Ms. Turkey, that is

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 7, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Something about sexy and food

really don’t mix for me. I really hate those commercials. I’m all for sexy stuff. Just… not with food…..

by Z-Bones on Jan 7, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife hates those commercials, too

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 7, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Elliot Williams.........the next wasted Blazer?

Thought so, move over Nico.

We must endeavor to persevere.

by Supercourse on Jan 7, 2012 9:38 AM PST reply actions  

Mathews isn't "wasted"

Has any Blazer been shown more latitude from McMillan, ever??

Law of Logical Argument
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 7, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah - his point was that Nico, as the incumbent "wasted" player, could give up that spot to E Williams

didn’t have anything to do with court time…

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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 7, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

ohh...I see said the blind woman...anyway

Totally agree that Matthews has been given lots o latitude.
I’d like Batum to start in his place.
I think Batum would warm up nicely and be able to shoot a ton of 3s just as well as Matthews.
And he can dribble the ball better even though he is taller.

by Natsthecat on Jan 7, 2012 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Mathews is a good kid

and can score in bunches when he gets hot – but his game just isn’t on Batum’s overall level….

Law of Logical Argument
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 8, 2012 1:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Things the Blazers needed to do that they didn't

Have a mature game plan and go to strategies: Difficult to accomplish with a new style and new players. This will come with time.

Better ball handling and crisper passing: Ditto more time playing together. But our passing game was just off. And it seemed we lacked confidence in the next guy.

Better outside shooting: No one was on. Nate looked to his bench early. But he should have kept looking.

More energy: Ditto.

Better defense of the pick and roll: This has always been a weakness for the McMillan-led Blazers. Without an Oden in the middle, this might never change. I do like that Nate tried to go zone. But, uncharacteristically this season, the Suns hit their shots.

Less one-on-five: The players lack of confidence in its shooters led to some ugly plays as individuals took it on themselves to right the team.

Time will improve this squad as much as any other in the league. That is one good thing. But when we face committed and hungry teams on the road, fast break points will be few and far between and we will need to know where to get points efficiently and how to take away what works for the other guy.

Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM

by LaoTzu on Jan 7, 2012 9:48 AM PST reply actions  

phoenix is type of team that blazers should be able to physically dominate

that said, there appeared to be no energy tonight. this is the type of game where putting in the rookies and backend of the bench at maybe the 5 minute mark of the 2nd quarter and seeing if their energy gets something going might not be a bad strategy.

they get some needed minutes in a real game, and perhaps can turn it around. this just isn’t nate’s style though. for some reason, phoenix looked vulnerable in that 2nd quarter to me and a late blazer run might have turned it around.

3rd quarter was so sloppy it was unwatchable. i had dvr’d game so watched the 3rd quarter again this morning. if i were nate, would have dumped my starters and played the bench and hoped they might get something going. just not his style!

by utahcoyote on Jan 7, 2012 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

So I love Crash Wallace

but… am I the only one who’s uneasily felt like I’ve seen him mail a few games in already this year? I know his reputation and when he’s on he’s electric. I don’t know if it was tired legs or what, but he and most of the other rotation players seemed like they were not hustling very hard on defense. I was annoyed because at one point just before Nate just threw in his deep bench players, Batum was the only one who looked like he was trying (had a nice chase down block after some awful rotations on defense… maybe was his fault for not getting there sooner and then he was actually trying to get to the rim and drew snagged some free throws) and Batum was having an awful game and even when he’s feeling it he’s not going to single handedly win us a game ever. I don’t know the team felt exhausted or something, but the energy and effort looked terrible.

by Z-Bones on Jan 7, 2012 10:28 AM PST reply actions  

He's stated repeatedly that the team is not conditioned yet

I think we should take that at face-value.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 7, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's more the style of game

The man IS effort. He just couldn’t get off due to how the game played out. He crashed into the key to attack the basket and go for boards, and never seemed to get the call.

Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM

by LaoTzu on Jan 8, 2012 2:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Nolan

I like this kids potential but…..i believe someone needs to point out that you can’t start the offence from 2 feet inside the halfcourt line! I only saw him get below the freethrow line twice and that was without the ball. He never penetrated or got by his man. And on another thought…Channing Frye playing D and doing it very well on LA and Grant Hill taking Wallace out of the game ……when did hades freeze over anyway?

by BOSSMAO on Jan 7, 2012 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Mama said

There be games like this, there be games like this, there be games….

by Iluvdisteam on Jan 7, 2012 11:36 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

A needed moderation of expectations IMO

As has been said, we will have these games. Especially on a shortened season. I imagine we will be hanging out around the middle of the standings (4,5 or 6 seed) for the next few months as long as we win the games we need to, then get a push come mid march (once we get back from that brutal 7 game roadtrip) and compete for a top 4 seed. I think the two big road trips will be key, and one is this month.

by BassBall on Jan 7, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

need to beat more than just Lakers to get a Championship ring

They spent too much energy and was too hyped up in the game with the Lakers. How did Gerald Wallace go from 31 points, to 1 point? Spent all the energy on a Lakers team that’s old and probably won’t be a championship contender. Ridiculous man, beating Lakers will not win Blazers a championship, learn how to get hyped up playing other teams as well.

by Larian1983 on Jan 7, 2012 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

Too many people are ignoring the obvious

The Blazers were tired. The Thunder and Lakers were tired when the Blazers beat them. This is going to happen all season long. The NBA decided to cram too many games into too short a time. Last night was the Blazers’ 3 game in 4 nights. I saw a lot of shots hit the front of the rim, which usually suggests tired legs. I saw the Thunder and Lakers do the same thing.

Frankly, I don’t think any team is going to run away this season, because of the schedule. Every team will have stretches of 5 games in 6 nights, 3 games in 3 nights. The Blazers are launching into a 7 games in 10 nights stretch, dovetailing into a 6 game road trip.

The Blazers’ biggest weakness will prove to be the bench, especially at the center position. The silver lining of last night’s loss was that that Elliot Williams, Chris Johnson, and Nolan & Craig Smith all got extended minutes. That means rest for Felton, Aldridge, Camby, Wallace and Thomas.

Frankly, I hope every loss is by 20 points.

by hercher on Jan 7, 2012 2:14 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

agree

Though Batum also missed HIS FREE THROWS…and hasn’t played extended minutes…
Just saying..

by Natsthecat on Jan 7, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW...based on Oden's contract...did you deduce anything further on his injury?

very good post on his injury…just curious if the suspected injury is further narrowed..

by Natsthecat on Jan 7, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't post on Oden's injury

Though I know the post you are writing about… it was very good.

I will be absolutely thrilled if Oden is able to come back this season in February or March and give about 10-15 minutes a night. I think it unreasonable to expect more — even if he is completely healthy, he hasn’t played basketball in a very long time.

But his physical presence for 10 minutes would probably be worth about 4-5 rebounds, 4-6 points, and a blocked shot. It also would be worth some fouls, which could come in handy when playing the likes of Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum, who don’t shoot free throws well.

by hercher on Jan 7, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

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