Game 6 Non-Recap: Trail Blazers Defeat Lakers 107-96 but TNT Once Again Fails Its Responsibility to NBA Fans
by Dave on Jan 5, 2012 10:57 PM PST
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PrintThe Portland Trail Blazers defeated the Los Angeles Lakers in the Rose Garden on Thursday night 107-96, pushing their record to a Western Conference best 5-1 on the young season.
Sadly the world did not get to see the first half of this contest because TNT, as has been their habit for years now despite repeated complaints, failed to show it.
Now let me state this clearly: I am not just talking about the triple-overtime finish to the East Coast game. The knee-jerk reaction of television executives and casually-paying-attention fans will be, "What were they supposed to do? It's 3OT!" I understand that. Triple-overtime games happen and they're rare. That wasn't the only issue, though. Even had the Miami-Atlanta game ended in regulation that was still 30 minutes after the scheduled start of the Western Conference game broadcast. Even without the overtimes the country would have missed a significant portion of the Blazers-Lakers game. With the overtimes it was a disaster.
And let's be clear about this too: there's no external recourse here. TNT has a contractual lock on these Thursday night games. They cannot be broadcast locally by the vast majority of franchises. There's no other avenue than TNT to view them and yet TNT is saying, "We WILL NOT SHOW YOU THIS GAME." Intentionally or not, this is the effect. They have the power to negatively affect every person in the country, including all the people in the local areas of the teams in question, and they are making the choice to have that negative effect. They are showing yet again that they do not care about the sport or its fans as much as their own convenience and their perceived ratings. That's an ironic statement from a network that's choosing to broadcast said sport and depending on fans to watch it.
The solution to this is painfully obvious. If you cannot delay the West Coast game's start and you cannot space the games farther apart in the first place, then show the second game on a sister network. It probably doesn't matter to NBA fans whether the game is shown there in its entirety or we have to switch over when the East Coast game is through. Either one works and fans are smart enough to follow wherever their sport goes if given the chance. Since NBA fans chronically miss the start of every Thursday night West Coast game my suggestion is that this policy be implemented immediately...that at minimum the 7:30-8:00 Pacific block on TBS (for example) be reserved for alternate NBA broadcasts. If it's more convenient, keep the whole second game there.
Also a message to the NBA: If you care about more than just dollars and cents, if your passion for your fans isn't just lip service, then your next contract with TNT (should you make the decision to renew with them) needs to include a clause that they actually broadcast your games in their entirety. Right now you are a party to depriving the world of your own sport.
Until then, let me highly recommend ESPN who does not seem to have the same problem. They broadcast a full slate of Friday night games and missing any part of the second one is exceedingly rare. Whatever you think of the four-letter network, they are clearly superior in this regard.
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My personal ethics have always been that I do not review games I have missed significant parts of. Five minutes? Fine. But I don't guess, I don't advance opinions on things I haven't seen, and I don't do this to prove personal theories apart from the game. I give you the best possible analysis I can on things I have actually witnessed. Having not seen half of this game I am not comfortable giving a regular review. Fortunately Blazersedge has a fine representative at the Rose Garden for every home game, allowing us to get around TNT's lack of consideration. For the complete game story I will refer you to Ben Golliver's Media Row Report which will be up later tonight. Ben is aware of the television situation and will give you the most complete story on this game he can.
As for what I saw in the second half, it was classic 2011-12 homecourt Blazers (if anything can be classic after 6 games of the season) plus a Lakers team that isn't quite ready for prime time. The Blazers dominated in turnovers, rebounded hard, and ran. The combination of LaMarcus Aldridge attempts at the hoop off of passes and the guards hitting their outside jumpers sealed the deal, preventing the Lakers from any sort of comeback. Much like the Kevin Durant in Portland's last game, Kobe Byrant seemed content to loft stupid shots in isolation, letting Portland's defense tell the tale. Full marks to the Blazers for being intimidating enough to force that and shutting off easy opportunities. Full marks too for their swarming of Andrew Bynum in the process. Fingers wagging at L.A. for their lack of cohesion and some very small violins playing that their supporting cast this year isn't near enough to compensate for opposing teams keying on the stars.
Gerald Wallace and LaMarcus Aldridge looked brilliant in this game from what I saw. Their attack opened up those jumpers for the smaller players.
The stat of the night was probably 4 turnovers for Portland. The Blazers have proved they can force turnovers but those picks and stops don't do much good when given right back. Nice job in keeping the tempo brisk too. The Blazers were ready to haul down the court after every rebound. They look sweet when they do that. A close second for stat of the night would be 4 fast break points for the Lakers. 46 points in the paint is a huge number for the Blazers, probably indicative of a passing motion offense and the Lakers' lack of interior "D" on the night.
You can get your Jersey Contest scores for the night here . You can fill out the form for tomorrow's Blazers-Suns game here.
SilverScreenandRoll should give you the L.A. perspective.
If you attended this game, please fill in your own game recap below until Ben's goes up.
--Dave (blazersub@gmail.com)
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I agree. Glad I was at the rose garden tonight.
I hate it when tnt pulls this crap. Everyone write angry letters NOW! lol
Formally known as: My_name_a_rudy
by Blaze_that_trail on Jan 5, 2012 11:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Great game. Fewer LA jerseys than last time.
Gotta say, folks didn’t miss a whole lot in that first half. When I looked at the halftime shooting percentages, I couldn’t believe the Blazers were still in spitting distance. There were a lot of missed lay-ins and some guys settling for jumpers way too early in the clock. The second half is when the team came alive.
All the same, that’s a raw deal for the fans that were depending on the TNT broadcast.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Jan 6, 2012 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
Boycott TNT!
Just removed TNT from my tv, it was easy to do and was the only real way I could get back at those jerks for making me watch a patetic 3 overtime game just because the 2 teams playing were so sucky that niether could put it away
I would argue that the OKC game was better
On the road, and against a better team.
That being said, I love beating up on the L*kers, and I always will.
Porter, Drexler, Kersey, Williams, Duckworth. The greatest starting 5 ever.
by Bib Fortuna on Jan 5, 2012 11:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The OKC win was more important considering the divisional implications
We need every win over them that we can get.
But as far as enjoyment? Can’t beat that feeling when you beat on LA.
by Jonathan Wright on Jan 5, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think you are correct here
“And let’s be clear about this too: there’s no external recourse here. TNT has a contractual lock on these Thursday night games. They cannot be broadcast locally.”
I have multiple friends living in LA and all of them were watching the game with the Lakers local broadcast on KCAL.
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
by TheGreatMon on Jan 5, 2012 11:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
MB tweeted about this earlier
apparently when TNT broadcasts more than 6 of the team’s games, the local broadcast team can still show the game.
LA has more than 6.
POR has 4.
PHILLY!
So is the TNT TV schedule set in stone or can they flex their schedule based on the match-ups like they do for Sunday Night football?
by Jonathan Wright on Jan 5, 2012 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Not entirely, they have fans vote for which games they show sometimes
so don’t vote for the Blazers.
Johnson, Johnson, Smith, Smith, Thomas, Williams, and Babbitt: the Blazer's law firm.
Yeah, Fan Night on NBATV every Tuesday. But that’s the 1 exception
If you're not careful, Andre Miller can really sneak up on you
Yes, I always go out of my way to vote against the Blazers
because NBATV completely locks me out, since I don’t have it but do have League Pass.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
I'm the opposite
Out of area, no LP, but NBATV. I think I’m in the minority. A crime that L@kers-Suns beat out Blazers-Clippers this week though
If you're not careful, Andre Miller can really sneak up on you
I'll have to call Buffalo Wild Wings and see if they have NBA TV.
I’d be surprised if they didn’t.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
I know that is against the rules to discuss this issue.
But don’t you think that in this situation the illegal stream is the only solution?
That has been the policy in past years. No ESPN games are prohibited, but 6 TNT games are.
As I recall teams can choose which TNT games they broadcast as long as 6 are blacked out.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
You go Dave!
Loved the TNT rant…
But my take? Thanks for making me miss the hot Kobe half, and let me see the Blazers D-STROY the Hated Fakers!
Ah, life is good.. But yes, TNT sucks…
I suggest we devote the Blazer Edge Nation to this task, and dominate TNT’s online presence…
Fortunately I was able to stream most of the first half on the L*kers feed
I don’t think I can do a first half recap justice though. Lakers mostly maintained about a 4 point lead – give or take – while the Blazers would sometimes fall further behind or catch up and tie it only to fall behind again. The L*kers were doing a good job of finding Bynum in the paint and he was generally finishing. Blazers would do the sort-of-fastbreak offense. Also, Wes hit several beautiful 3’s early in the game and Gerald had some nice drives and finishes.
put a body on 'em
It was an exhilarating first half.
The Lakers were red hot but the Blazers mostly kept up. The biggest deficit was 28-21, I think, and that was momentary. Even then the Laker announcers were already worried about the fast pace, and sure enough Bynum wore down in the second half. And Lamarcus and Gerald were studs, with Gerald time and time again taking it right at the Laker bigs, Lamarcus too when he wasn’t draining long, open 2s. There was lots of ball movement, player movement, and open shots. Most of the bad shots were taken by Kobe.
I’m not trying to rub it in, but it was a very, very good game and it’s a travesty that fans in the U.S. couldn’t see it.
Kobe made all the bad shots though, being Kobe
I think he missed once in the first half.
We defended nothing in the first qtr
It was understandable the L*kers were shooting such a high percentage we covered no one. Bynum caught the ball in the deep post, Gasol was left wide wide open for easy hoops, Kobe had about 5 feet around him everywhere, the refs blew some calls badly. We were right there with them the whole time though. I was pretty happy with where we were at considering they were at like 68% shooting at the end of the first and we were still close.
It really was the absolute worse stretch of defense the Blazers have played all season. Once we battened that down we wer fine the rest of the game.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
Sometimes it's fair to give the offense credit instead of blaming the defense.
Bynum was unstoppable. Pau couldn’t miss a jumper. Kobe was Kobe. L*kers gave us their best and we were hanging right with them.
by 52therim on Jan 6, 2012 1:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
maybe
but Pau’s shots were completely uncontested. We LET Bynum stand two feet from the hoop to receive the ball. We got closer to Pau and pushed Bynum out in the second half and it made all of the difference.
It did not help the refs let Bynum stand in the paint for 10 seconds OFTEN
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
"Sadly the world"
You might want to change “World” with “U.S”… I did wacht it without any problem.
"we were out shot (% wise)"
In FG%, yes.
But not in eFG%.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Wont it be nice
to see Brandon lift the championship banner up to the rafters at the start of next season.
Why would brandon do that?
He had not part in a championship that could be had this year.
ATL had the lead in regulation and choked it away in the last 10 seconds
gotta make your foul shots!
put a body on 'em
and to make it worse
they clawed back at the end of the 3rd…think they outscored miami by 14 in the 3rd
by Jamie Backer on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe he will jack up a buncha threes against us
and miss them!!
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
This sums up everything I felt tonight
Charles probably just lost his Weight Watchers endorsement, and that’s kinda hilarious. But when Charles and Kevin Harlan start talking about how awful the game was? That’s what really pissed me off about them not switching over. Yeah, I got online and found the Lakers feed, and yeah it went 3OT. But this wasn’t 3OT like the Griz/Thunder game. This was two teams unable to put each other away and dragging on a game that should have mercifully ended with LeBron suiting up in the 4th just to get it over.
But this video is hilarious. Best thing to come out of the game:
http://eye-on-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22748484/34212886
by win_heartless on Jan 5, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
but holy smokes, a great win!
the team has played 2 beautiful games and much of the credit has to go to Nate. it’s very difficult to be GREAT at what you do (and nate wouldn’t have gotten to NBA coach if he wasn’t) and then be willing to change your processes. speak to man’s maturity and commitment to his team
My boss once told me
to use the “save as draft” function for any email I send that I think may be particularly emotionally charged or salty, and re-read it in the morning before sending it.
Just saying.
I am
my own boss.
And this is a repeated issue.
—Dave
by Dave on Jan 5, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Yes, but people come here to read about the Blazers
So write about them. Your “ethics” tell you not to write about games you didn’t see in their entirety? Really? This is a basketball game, not the cuban missile crisis.
Yup
Part of my charm is that I take the work as seriously as if it were…well, important. Not quite the Cuban Missile Crisis but in terms of what this blog does this was an important night.
Not writing about games I miss has also been a long-standing policy, from the beginnings of the site.
—Dave
by Dave on Jan 5, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
You wrote about the Cuban Missle Crisis is last years playoffs
remember
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 6, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know about you
But I wouldn’t take a movie review seriously if the reviewer only watched half of it.
by Jonathan Wright on Jan 5, 2012 11:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
is the fact that all blazers fans could not watch the game not about the blazers?
people come here to connect with other blazer fans as much as to read about the team. Dave happens to be the best spoken of the lot. its think its fair to say we all feel a similar frustration
by Jamie Backer on Jan 5, 2012 11:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The subject at hand isn't about the blazers
nor were they mentioned in the first 6 paragraphs of this post. The Blazers were simply a bi-product of TNT’s policies. But I get what you’re saying.
I understand what you're saying too
and I think you know me and the site well enough to know that this isn’t a frequently-repeated happening. But sometimes things do need to be said and I’d like to think (though maybe not all agree) that I’ve earned enough credit in the whole basketball-sports-reporting world to say them when the occasion arises.
In any case, Ben’s report will be forthcoming later, containing nothing but Blazers from the Rose Garden view.
—Dave
Fair enough.
Didn’t mean to sound inflammatory, I just wanted to read some expert analysis :)
by Arby on Jan 5, 2012 11:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
but he can't give it if he does not see it...
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
Those of us held hostage by Comcast
Look forward to the handful of national games all season. Given were often the 2nd gamer due to the West coast location we are victim to these policies more than most.
I was super frustrated to miss half the game and I’m v glad to have Dave and co help highlight our frustrations. Even a non OT game would have cut into the Blazer game, which I think is the wrong way to do it.
by aces_dad on Jan 5, 2012 11:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
You are being held hostage by Dish
They are the ones refusing to pay the fair market price.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
I don't think anyone but those in the negotiations know what is being offered
So to blame it all on Dish is misguided, IMO.
put a body on 'em
If dish feels the asking price is too high for the product
they have recourse to take it in front of the FCC, they have not so they obviously feel they do not have a case that the price is unfair they just do not want ot pay that price because they want to keep providing dish at a substantially lower price while getting programming that is worth much more at market value.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
If it was just Dish
I would see Blazer games on Direct, or other options. Since I dont Comcast seems the most responsible.
If I had a One channel option available to me I’d be willing to pay. I don’t have that option. Again it seems Comcast is the one responsible here.
by aces_dad on Jan 6, 2012 12:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Also why not a streaming option by Comcast
For those without Comcast?
by aces_dad on Jan 6, 2012 12:53 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Because they wouldn't get all the money from the cable providers then.
They wouldn’t have demand for the channel anymore and would drop it, hurting the revenue for Comcast.
Other providers have paid the price to get CSN on their platforms
The satelite comapnies refuse to pay that price. I just use dish as shorthand for the satellite companies.
If they had a case that the price was unfair they could appeal to the FCC. They have not done so, it is their problem.
If they filed a complaint with the FCC I would agree with you, they have refused to pay the asking price AND they have refused to contest the rate, they know what the product is worht in the northwest and they feel they would lose too many customers in order to raise their price to cover that cost.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
I've got the option to purchase
Like every station/channel but one from my sat provider. I have a hard time believing regional sports should be more than, say, an HBO. Since I don’t even have that option I feel Comcast is the one not negotiating in good faith.
by aces_dad on Jan 6, 2012 1:09 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
The law is clear
if you are asking an unfair price the competitor can take you in front of an arbitration panel to set a fair price. That is the law. The satellite providers have not done this, that tells me they know they would lose.
Probably the most valuable programming in the Portland media market is the Blazers, so it would not be surprising if they are asking the highest price of anything out there in terms of this media market.
A limited scope, specialty platform would actually cost more because interest is so focused in just this region.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
if you are asking an unfair price the competitor can take you in front of an arbitration panel to set a fair price. That is the law. The satellite providers have not done this, that tells me they know they would lose.
It may just mean they have so little demand for the channel that it’s not worth the price in lawyers and effort. I’m not convinced Dish/DirecTV get that many complaints.
That is still their fault, not comcasts
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
Never said otherwise.
Just correcting what could be a misconception.
They’re about profits. They don’t think they’d make more profits in subscriptions (or ones not lost) at the price Comcast is asking. Seems simple to me. Fault can go wherever a person wants to put it in that scenario. But there’s plenty to go around.
What I don't understand
is how the Sat companies pay for access to this programming. Is it just one price regardless of number of viewers? Or is it not some price per viewer?
by aces_dad on Jan 6, 2012 1:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Comcast is rumored to be asking for $32 per year per subscriber next season
Not per viewer, per subscriber. At least according to the Oregonian, via Canzano, take that as you will (link)
That money would be hard to make on a per viewer basis, most likely.
Right....nothing but PPV is sold per viewer
it is always per subscriber
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
My question wasn't very clear.
What I’d like to know, if the cost is X+Y where X is a set price and Y is based upon the number of subscribers. In the article Timmay! linked, it mentioned $32 per subscriber. So, if it is offered, and I am the only Dish customer to purchase this package, does Dish owe Comcast only the cost of my service?
Yes ...kinda
The wrinkle is that Comcast would require that the contract include package placement…Ie ..Comcast would negotiate what package it would be included in and thus dictate how many subs would be paying ..at least initially. So it would never just be your $32
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
I'm still not sure...
It seems to me like Comcast should be the ones to blame, and I really don’t like Comcast… Yet, Frontier’s FiOS TV has purchased CSNNW, whereas Dish and DirecTV haven’t. I think if Frontier offers it, the pricing must not be that ridiculous.
by Rodney Gustafson on Jan 6, 2012 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
Frontier didn't buy it verizon did
Yet when Frontier purchased the local FIOS from Verizion they already had it. I have Frontier, their phone customer service is horrendous in that it is nearly impossible ot get a person to speak to in less than 5 minutes outside banker hours. And I don’t mean being put on hold, I mean navigating the number punching tele-prompter to get someone who can better serve your needs. It was often best to tap some completely unrelated option like new customers or add service and then have that person transfer you to the correct person. My DVR hard drive failed (fortunately during the lockout) and it took calling for an hour at a time on three occasions and three weeks to get a new box. Their people are very nice and courteous however, and they all reside in the US. I would recommend them over Comcast.
Most of Comcast's customer service is US based also
FYI
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 6, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Yep, they've made an effort to have people answering phones in geographical vicinity
Full credit to Comcast on that one, I often talk to their reps about local events when I call.
Though I'd appreciate it if they wouldn't have unskippable messages before reaching service
Right now, they have a big thing on how to reset your phone service, when I’m not even calling about phone service.
Yeah ...they had that the last time called too
“Hello…before we talk to you …please powercycle your phone modem” …which causes you to lose the call …haha
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
Fair market price doesn't apply here, there's no real free market forces involved
Comcast can set the price to whatever they want, but that doesn’t make it fair market price.
I could make a pretty compelling argument that they’re not charging what would be considered a fair market price on a free market, just based on publicly known information. But, to be brutally honest, it’s been a long day, I’m really tired, and the Comcast stuff has been hashed and rehashed to death. Nothing’s going to change no matter what we say in the comments tonight.
Twitter blew up...
…with folks who couldn’t see the game. “TNT” was a trending topic.
How can fans follow their team if they can’t see the games? How can we discuss the Blazers if we can’t watch them play?
Possibly you, Arby, can afford access to anything that interests you. Not true for everyone.
I’d have put it more strongly than Dave did.
Not even the first time you've written about it
I agree with what you wrote and your desire to write it 100%
If you're not careful, Andre Miller can really sneak up on you
Let's be activists!
I have already done this, and I urge you to do the same. If you have twitter, tweet the link to this article to @NBAonTNT
If you're not careful, Andre Miller can really sneak up on you
by momomoses7 on Jan 5, 2012 11:11 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
#occupybarkley
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Jan 6, 2012 12:18 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm spanish...
…And I was able to watch it entirely on international league pass, with the Kcal9 broadcast… Was pretty smooth, besides.
Anyway, TNT sucks for this.
ESPN Boxscore Game Notes:
The Lakers have won seven of the last eight meetings with the Blazers at Staples Center. …
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Bah!
http://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-outworked-outplayed-in-107-96-loss-in-portland/2012/01/05/
Nolan Smith - PG of the future. Book it.
I saw a bit of the first half
Felton was torching blake and fish. Lakers were shooting well something like 68% I think, which of course was not sustainable. Also Blazers kept playing 1v1 against bynum which didnt work and got corrected in the second half. Either way blazers looked good and the announcers were loving them. I think they used the word ‘versatile’ about 50 times. Hope to see more games like this.
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
Saw the first half on an illegal feed I'm not supposed to talk about.
The tempo was the same as the 2nd. We pushed the ball as much as possible. Two things were different: First, he Lakers pushed back hard and we weren’t prepared defensively. Second, we missed a bunch of easy shots. In fact, after the first half despite the deficit I was confident we would win considering the types of shots we were missing and LA’s abnormally high shooting percentages. Surely they couldn’t keep that up. The shots would start to fall for us in the 2nd half (and they did), and LA would start to miss (and they did). Game over.
That was a very, very fun game to watch and I’m glad I did.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
by bfan on Jan 5, 2012 11:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
def the most fun game I have seen in a while
you can tell the team is starting to gel well
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
That's a perfect way to put it
We have a policy, for purposes of fairness and legal niceties, that we do not promote or allow promotion of any illegal feeds. We do this mostly out of respect for entities like TNT and the money they spend to broadcast these games, because we believe that people who generate and pay for content should benefit fully from that content. Our stance in favor of them looks really stupid when they don’t actually show the games.
—Dave
by Dave on Jan 5, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
you ever get to see games live dave?
plan it out for every tnt game
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
Dave ...
I respect the policy (because I respect the site). However, I wonder if the policy deserves an asterisk in which online feeds can be posted for the good of the fanbase. I mean, depriving thousands of fans of the ability to watch a game they otherwise should have been able to, is just silly.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
An asterisk meaning ...
Illegal online streams can be discussed when TNT or anyone else screws us out of being able to watch the game. If they don’t show the game as they’re supposed to, then they’re not really losing any money if we go watch it somewhere else.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
Does any of the policy have to do with a desire to curry favor, particularly with the Blazers organization?
As in interviews and press credentials?
No, it's more about legal ramifications.
Knowingly hosting links to pirated material can get the site in serious trouble. This is a pretty universal policy across SBNation.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
Especially is SOPA passes
If it passes all of SB nation could get taken down by just an accusation that a commenter here posted a link to an illegal feed.
No
We had those long before we instituted this policy and would have them even if we didn’t take this stance.
One person from the organization has written and thanked us for making this choice. That’s the only comment we’ve heard on it. There’s never been any pressure and frankly we don’t respond well to pressure like that anyway.
—Dave
by Dave on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Interesting to know,
that is what I’d always kind of assumed, that the NBA wouldn’t take kindly to such behavior.
I know the NFL has a history of cracking down big time on it.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
I think it's a good policy for BE. Practically speaking it really doesn't matter for most users.
It’s easy to find the feeds, like tonight.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 6, 2012 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
My comment saying that you could go to the Oregonian's site for advice
was deleted. All I said was to go to the Oregonian comment section. Which I still advise. Or any other site that values free speech.
by Corvallis, OR on Jan 6, 2012 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
That's promoting a location specifically for people looking for a link
Falls in the same area. It’s discussion of streaming. We’re good about that here, even the “wink wink” posts that try to avoid saying what they’re saying.
bfan - good commentary
I was thinking the same thing about us being in the game with the close shots we missed and all the shots the L*kers were missing.
put a body on 'em
Besides, you don't even need to discuss them here.
If you want to find such a stream, Google will come up with several results.
Porter, Drexler, Kersey, Williams, Duckworth. The greatest starting 5 ever.
the problem is a lot of them are bogus
and loaded with malware. I got sick of getting my computer messed up searching.
I just don’t bother any more.
What is wierd is when they basically refuse to allow you to pay to see a game you want to see, which is my current status, unless they get reality to line up with policy. I am not in a Comcast service area, and the interesting new streaming option is not enabled for me (yet?).
“unauthorized” stream would cost them nothing, as I am not offered the option to buy.
Somewhere Michael Jordan is smiling at Gerald Wallace Blazer highlights.
I think the Blazers would love to get you the ability to stream, honestly.
Based on what I’ve seen. I think they’re frustrated too.
by Timmay! on Jan 6, 2012 1:23 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There's one that's always worked for me, with no problems
Porter, Drexler, Kersey, Williams, Duckworth. The greatest starting 5 ever.
When this really kills me
Are those times where the first game is a 30-point blowout and they STILL don’t just show the start of the second game with the end of the first in a window. It’s happened more than once . . .
Steve Goodman lives.
if it wasn't for Lebron's ankle and Dwayne's foot
this would have been just that….silver lining? at least the game that held us up was entertaining
by Jamie Backer on Jan 5, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Disagree
The Hawks going 0 for the 3rd overtime wasn’t entertaining at all
If you're not careful, Andre Miller can really sneak up on you
When I bothered to look at the TNT stream all I saw was a bunch of guys
standing around. So exciting.
#52--------I believe in Greg Oden
That's Atlanta basketball for you.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
I predict the Blazers will not lose to the Lakers in the Rose Garden this year.
Yeah, I know what you are going to say.
But I’m including the playoffs too.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 5, 2012 11:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I live within the blackout area with no availabilty to comcast...
.. So I do not get that many games to start with.
Then I had to sit through that crap.
Thanks Dave for speaking for me. I truly appreciate it.
" one thing I hate more than a L*ker, is TWO L*kers.... "
by 1ofthe7 on Jan 5, 2012 11:26 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Great coaching
I think it’s worth noting that Bynum was 7-7 in the first half and then 2-8 in the second half. Where was Camby in the second half? I credit Nate for seeing what Thomas was doing to him, and changing it up. Great move.
"Jumper-free throw-free throw-alley oop-jumper-post move-oh please stop hurting us LaMarcus!" -Dave 2/14/11
by Kroes32 on Jan 5, 2012 11:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Camby sat the final 15 minutes because we didnt need him.
Comfortable lead allowed us to rest Camby. Nice result there.
by 52therim on Jan 6, 2012 1:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
also probably saving him for phoenix.
Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10
by Tofu Anonymous on Jan 5, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
I'm cautiously optimistic about the season
but there sure are a lot of people suddenly piling on the Blazers WC bandwagon.
We’ve only played 1/11th of the season and we’ve had one of the lightest schedules in the league with mostly home games.
put a body on 'em
I'm more excited about avoiding the injury plague for once.
Let’s be completely honest here. All of the struggles over the years have been a result of so many injuries happening at every waking moment. If those teams had remained relatively healthy through the regular season they’d have had more wins and chemistry.
Delete and repost this in the morning.
Give us our night to celebrate.
"These are dreams that we have." --Rudolfo Fernandez
But we've also
played and beaten three of the best teams in the west, so while we’ve played fewer games, we’ve played good teams.
Only gripe I had this game
More missed layups! Gotta get those easy ones.
Elliot Williams
Fan Fest 2011 :)
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 5, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
Travis was all about the tomahawk dunk.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Jan 6, 2012 12:23 AM PST up reply actions
i just saw this tweet:
Lakers streak of hitting at least one three-pointer snapped at 653 games. 0-11 tonight.
Hell yes. Blazers rule!!
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 5, 2012 11:33 PM PST reply actions
oh man
that is awesome, so blakes chuck at the end was a 2?
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
yes! felton's cupcakes absorbed the blow perfectly.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
haha--i love felton man. he played fantastic tonight.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
Ya
you probably think he’s just a big cuddly teddy bear
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
totes. i wouldn't care if he played with his mouth full of cupcake if he keeps up the same level of play he showed tonight!
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 5, 2012 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.
by conspirator5 on Jan 6, 2012 12:25 AM PST up reply actions
Marv mentioned this during the broadcast
The Blazers defense was smothering but the L@kers bricked a ton of shots. That’s because they didn’t have many open looks.
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
and because blazers have the wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot train
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 5, 2012 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
but seriously...653 GAME STREAK STOPPED. This should be the stat of the game for the Blazers. Great W.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
How does the NFL split games across it's network affiliate by market
while TNT sticks to one national schedule on every provider? It changes things a bit knowing LA fans were watching the game on their network. Still, it’s 2012, this shouldn’t be difficult. In fact, it’s downright stupid.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 5, 2012 11:38 PM PST via mobile reply actions
They have the power to negatively effect every person in the country
Dave split infinitives! Dave AAAANGRY!
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
Why are split infinitives bad?
Do they seem to badly obfuscate meaning?
The Archbishop of London wrote the first grammar of English
back when the English intelligentsia has a severe inferiority complex about English in relation to Latin. Soooo, since Latin doesn’t split infinitives (how could it, infinitives being only one word) the English “intelligentsia” tried to slavishly crowbar English into being a clone of Latin. Yet, to this day, even those most eloquent users of our language such as Dave find occasion to speak plain English. All is well. We are simply returning to a pre-Gutenburg world, when people spoke how they wanted to and spelled words the way they seemed to sound, even if they changed their mind twice on the same page. Power to the people.
I can't imagine a pre-Gutenburg world
All those movies without Steve Gutenburg in them? Shudder.
I only take my petz to Bunfeeld Pet Oz-pitzal!
Oh I don't know
Cocoon with a young Jim Carey would have been something to see…
"You're standing in my sunlight, please move." —Diogenes to Alexander the Great
Steve Gutenburg was in a surprising number of good movies
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
AFFECT
gahhhhhwearaweifojwefioewjfgioweg
Blazers basketball? Just basketball you say? More like a way of life
by dyshooter182 on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
Oh man
THAT one is embarrassing. I never do that. It bugs the daylight out of me. In my defense I was using “effect” later on in the same sentence. I ended up outfoxing myself.
Still, I fixed it so I won’t be embarrassed every time I see this post.
—Dave
Oh my goodness
Bad Grammar Rage is the worst rage out there!!!
Actually I should get that on a t-shirt.
—Dave
by Dave on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
RUN
HE’S COMMA SPLICING!
Suddenly a guy in a red shirt comes out. “Dave, we canna take much more o’ this! She’s gonna BLOW!!!”
—Dave
by Dave on Jan 5, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
When you devolve into LOLspeke
we’ll know you’ve blown a fuse fr rl srsly.
Good post as usl bddy :)
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
at first I thought he was trying to say wojinar...awojs name
: )
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 5, 2012 11:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
he-who-shall-not-be-named
in my book.
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
Really?
I think he’s one of the better national NBA columnists. After tonight, Dwight Jaynes is at the bottom of my pile. His remarks when fans were complaining about TNT were super arrogant, ignorant and elitist
If you're not careful, Andre Miller can really sneak up on you
The Yahoo commentator
harshed on KP, and I get all goopy when it comes to KP.
:)
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
prob their 4th best player
either that or blake, learned that from tbj
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
yah
he looked real bad, at least his name makes for interesting commentary. “Foul called on world peace” haha
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
Another ESPN Game Notes nugget
Fan holds up sign at the Rose Garden:
“Tonight I’m against World Peace”
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 5, 2012 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
That is brilliant
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
eubanks looked pretty sketch
dont think he would see time off our bench
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
no, but for them he was giving an energy they were missing
not that it was always on-task.
put a body on 'em
For some perspective on how ESPN handles it better:
In college basketball the last couple of years, on Monday nights, the Big East got the first slot and the Big 12 got the second slot. When, for example, a late Big East game was cutting into Oklahoma-Kansas, they put it on ESPN3, and on the non-high def version of ESPN for viewers in Kansas and Oklahoma. It is possible to localize it – why shouldn’t TNT do it?
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:39 PM PST reply actions
TNT alteady has their 'TNT Overtime' site.
On which you can watch camera shots of either bench, iso cams on star players and other alternative camera angles. How hard would it be for them to put the feed from the Best Coast game on their website? Even if it used something similar to ESPN3’s system where you have to be a subscriber of a certain internet provider in order to gain access. You can’t tell me that with all the data mining constantly being done on every website we access and whatnot it isn’t possible. This is a problem i have with large media companies in general; their lack of adaptation to new technologies, and why no matter how horrible their commentary and non-broadcast material I still respect ESPN: ESPN3 for the computer and XBOX is amazing. Live and replayed coverage, as well as highlights on-demand, of every game they have the broadcasting rights to (in my experience anyway, I could be wrong). Comedy Central does this as well; within a day you can access any of their programs online for free.
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Jan 6, 2012 6:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, do the Lakers have the worst PGs in the league?
It’s got to be close. Man, they really suck. Pau, Bynum, and Kobe are awesome, but the rest of the team wouldn’t make the Kings’ roster.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 5, 2012 11:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Miami's up there too.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
Miami's roster isn't great outside of James/Wade/Bosh
But the Lakers are MUUUUUUCH worse.
At least Chalmers can hit a 3.
by Jonathan Wright on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
Udonis Haslem, Mike Miller, Shane Battier
Sure there’s a large dropoff, and it’d be better if their 4th best player was a center or PG, but they’ve got a half-decent rotation.
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
mario seems to have good games
from time to time
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
Chalmers has his moments.
Cole is a prospect, at least. Hmmm. Youth > old slow guys
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 5, 2012 11:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Funny thing is, their PG situation is probably still not as bad as it was in 2005-2006.
Remember Smush Parker?
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
Fisher was much more solid then though, right?
Smoosh. Heh. He was a nice fad.
/s
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 5, 2012 11:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He didn't return to the Lakers until 2007.
I recently watched a video of Kobe’s 81 point game. It was downright comical how selfish he was.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
Knicks have bad PGs too
I’d rather have Chalmers than Toney Douglas or the post-lockout-reanimated-by-dark-magicks-of-David-Stern corpse of Derek Fisher.
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
So the question must be this:
What kind of point guard are the Lakers going to get for Meta World Peace plus change by the trade deadline?
No way
Utah doesn’t want anything the Lakers have to offer. They’re rebuilding.
by Jonathan Wright on Jan 5, 2012 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
does Minnesota want some vets and meta?
maybe one of their pgs
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
I doubt it - they need to rebuild with younger guys
Artest doesn’t fit their window and I have a hard time seeing him being a “veteran leader” on a team like Minny.
put a body on 'em
Plus, they already have Anthony Randolph and Michael Beasley in the locker room.
He isn’t exactly what Minnesota needs.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
nobody wants World Peace
sad.
Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10
by Tofu Anonymous on Jan 5, 2012 11:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you Dave, but...
This isn’t just a TNT issue. We have a problem with Blazers games in general being held hostage by the media companies that withhold them from a wider grouping of clientele. Comcast already limits viewing access to our games. Why should this be so much worse? Frankly, I am surprised at the frustration shown for this game, when I have seen little to no emotion related to Comcast’s near monopoly on games… I have paid countless hundreds of extra dollars over the past 5 years simply to keep the Blazers on my TV more than 12 times a year…
by Love_me_some_blazers on Jan 5, 2012 11:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions
You must have missed the recent post
Where Comcast made a small improvement which allowed NW viewers w/o Comcast availability the option to stream games online. The overall feedback was thanks but I’m in a Comcast availability area and I’m still held hostage….
Portland still has like 6 yrs or something remaining in that contract, so there is little that can be done on that front if Comcast is unwilling to work with Dish etc to provide an affordable package offer.
The national feeds, however, should respond to customer feedback. They advertise a Blazers game tonight I will not be happy regularly missing the start (and sometimes much more) of said game.
by aces_dad on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
If their price was unfair for the product
then Dish can take comcast to the FCC and force arbitration for a fair price. They do not do it because they know the price Comcast is asking for in this market is fair, but it would force them to raise their cut rate low prices in comparison to Camcast. If they actually have to pay what the content was worth they would lose customers. It is how the market place works. Other providers HAVE paid the price Comcast is asking, it is just the underpriced satellite providers that refuse to pay.
They are the ones holding you hostage NOT Comcast.
And heck I am practically a commie and I side with Comcast on this front.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
Anyone see the fight in section 303?
Super loud and annoying L*ker fan got punched in the face
I expect better in the RG.
"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth
by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Might have been punched in the face by another Lakers fan… Just saying.
"You're standing in my sunlight, please move." —Diogenes to Alexander the Great
‘Kobe is the best player in basketball!"
“Hey! You forgot to say ’of all time’." Punch
"You're standing in my sunlight, please move." —Diogenes to Alexander the Great
by pixelpusher on Jan 5, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
If a l@ker fan does what it takes to get punched in the Rose Garden...
…they probably deserved it and earned it.
Disclaimer: There is a high chance this comment contains sarcasm, so please just chill out, relax, and have a nice l@ker hating day.
Saw the fight
It was a laker fan getting in the face of a blazer fan as he was hooting and hollering all game long, then the blazer fan punched him in the face sending said laker fan down 3 rows of seats… it was interesting and the laker fan never came back strangely enough the ushers let the blazer fan stay as I saw him as I was leaving the game
by AldridgeBeastMode on Jan 6, 2012 12:24 AM PST up reply actions
Happened right behind me
I’m in 304 and heard the commotion, but didn’t know what was going on. Lots of ushers, lots of cheering… I did notice a few cops walking around the 300 level afterwards, which I have never seen before.
by DrScience on Jan 6, 2012 1:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
missed it, but dont doubt it
seen people let trash talk affect them to often
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 5, 2012 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
I've talked trash in other arenas
It’s all fun and games. It should never be taken to a physical level that is unacceptable.
Unfortunately, just wearing the opponents jersey in some places will get you thrashed
See: SF Giant’s fan in LA or the recent beating in Philly of a policeman and his son wearing Rangers jerseys after the Winter Classic this past Monday (that happened at Geno’s, the famous Philly cheesesteak place).
put a body on 'em
while I agree
but I have seen visiting fans go way too far…
I sit in a section that has a lot of group sales and there was a swath of lakers fans in front of me tonite. They put some grey coats in my section to keep an eye on things. I thought that was smart, but things were all good…
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
when r we gonna get the post game interview up?
I wanna hear what Nate.says
Ben! Ben! Ben!
im starting the BEN! chant right now. Feed your starving mob BEN!
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 6, 2012 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
on the other hand, Ben may be workin' up a special serving
of extra tasty interviews and analysis…. some things take time.
But, yeah it should be good, at this point mananna for me…
Somewhere Michael Jordan is smiling at Gerald Wallace Blazer highlights.
I dont verbally support illegal feeds
but cable is not in our budget
La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah
Weve won 14 of 24 qtrs this season
weve lost 9
tied 1
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 6, 2012 12:00 AM PST reply actions
Was at the game...
Thanks to Intel/CDW in a suite and the first half the Lakers could not miss. I swear more than half the first quarter was over and they Lakers were still shooting an obscene 80 plus percent. I remember someone hitting a “J” and looking at the hustle board and seeing it change to 90% and being worried. Even with the hot shooting we were never more than 5 points or so out of it thanks to some hot shooting by Matthews. Blazers were in the upper 60% and Lakers in the stratosphere at 85%. My thoughts were to tighten up defense (which they did) and that it was impossible for them to maintain that shooting percentage for any length.
Overall a blast to be at and a great performance!! This team is for real!!!
by ilikescotch on Jan 6, 2012 12:06 AM PST via mobile reply actions
QUOTE OF THE NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bryant was asked after the game about the storyline of losses in Portland.
“It drives me crazy,” he said.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 6, 2012 12:06 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Aw, he's getting soft in his old age. Heehee
"Jumper-free throw-free throw-alley oop-jumper-post move-oh please stop hurting us LaMarcus!" -Dave 2/14/11
by Kroes32 on Jan 6, 2012 12:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
so how many straight years of "overachieving" does it take for a team to simply be considered that that's just what they do?
Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10
depends on the size of their market
These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx
by RDreamer on Jan 6, 2012 12:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Is it me or is Nissan
totally copying Toyotas truck commercials? Toyotas were way better anywyays.
My 2 favs are when the girlfriend drives the boyfriends truck off the cliff, and the one where the river rafters are all fired up and then they see the gnarliest rapids of all time and decide to go somewhere else.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Rip City.
OSU '06
GForce Crash Wallace FTW!
by TyboOSU on Jan 6, 2012 12:14 AM PST via mobile reply actions 5 recs
I wonder what our record would have to be for Chad to get the GM job?
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 6, 2012 12:15 AM PST reply actions
I hadn't even though of that
Should be interesting you’ve got to think hes at least going to get some consideration.
Bat88m
GMs get fired around here
Acting GM seems much safer!
by aces_dad on Jan 6, 2012 12:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
wonder if an acting GM is eligible for Exec of the year?
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 6, 2012 1:06 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Keeps him open to going back to being a scout, I guess
Plus I’ve wondered if Nate and Larry are having a lot more say behind the scenes than any of us know. Maybe Chad is as much of a facilitator as a decider.
put a body on 'em
the worst part is we didn't even tip off until 7:51
That is about 12 minutes later than usual and the east game still ate up an entire half. The problem is not just with TNT, does the contract stipulate that TNT games go so freaking long? Everyone of them take nearly 3 hours. Almost all of the other games take right about 2.5 hours almost on the nose.
15 minutes of OT should not take so long to play.
"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)
Thats a godd question
Are TNT’s commercial breaks longer than local broadcast/ league pass? Is halftime extended so we can experience more of the inane banter between ex-players with marginal basketball knowledge?
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Jan 6, 2012 6:13 AM PST up reply actions
"Are TNT’s commercial breaks longer than local broadcast??"
The answer to that question is :: “Oh hell yeah!!”
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 6, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I really need to go to a game asap
I seem to be having trouble finding someone who wants to buy a ticket to go with me. owell pretty soon hopefully someone will stop being lame
Bat88m
Buy a nosebleed
Take a good bud for free, they’ll be hooked!
by aces_dad on Jan 6, 2012 12:21 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
More than LA saw the first half
watch from the firstrow, google.
SAD No BEN! yet.
Oh well dudes prolly workin hella hard right now. I guess I will read his post in the mornin.
Peace out yall-Have a good night
Its a great day to be a Blazer fan!
PS- CYA during the PHX game tomorrow right here!
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 6, 2012 12:37 AM PST reply actions
nothin new
It’s all about Kobe and his poor wrist.
by blazerbeliever on Jan 6, 2012 1:04 AM PST up reply actions
1st time I had an actual L*ker d-bag next to me....
and there is always a fake show fan next to me. But, I love our new resiliency. Wasn’t worried and didn’t really talk any trash. The new swag is wearing off on me… Faker fans did not wear their colors tonight but they were there in droves…
"Playing to win? I mean, s***, that's easy."
I thought the TNT crew was actually giving us a ton of respect. Barkley called us the best team in the west, and Kerr also mentioned that we are better than OKC. I had to rewind to make sure I heard them correctly.
Didn't they end wih a...
out in the 1st round though? Maybe I heard it wrong…
"Playing to win? I mean, s***, that's easy."
More reasons to hate the Heat
I had to go to the radio (am reception really sucks) for the first half of the game. TNT was muted and I was praying someone would make a 3 just so the teams couldn’t tie again. alas it was very cringe worthy 3OT. With 100s of stations on tv 1 could surely aire games in their entirety. This is really why interactive tv is necessary; so we can choose which feed to watch.
by NWfan on Jan 6, 2012 1:21 AM PST via mobile reply actions
crazy game to watch
I almost got kicked out of the RG tonight because a friend and I were standing up cheering and some Lakers fans behind us didn’t like it, what is the world coming to these days?
by trax639 on Jan 6, 2012 2:06 AM PST via mobile reply actions
TNT just sucks
First of all, what makes TNT so special? Supposedly by covering a game, they get it exclusively, which means no Blazers Broadcasting feed. However, I watched the first half of the game on League Pass, because they had picked up the feed from KCAL in Los Angeles. So Laker fans don’t have to watch TNT, but Blazer fans were held hostage by the backups of the Miami heat. And most fans don’t subscribe to League Pass.
Turner (the company that owns TNT) also operates NBA TV. They could have gone to the Blazers feed on NBA TV, because they were only showing games from the early 90s last night. Nobody would have complained about missing the first round of the ’94 playoffs.
Can someone explain why KCAL is not subject to the "exclusive to TNT" rule?
For example, Blazers Broadcasting can simultaneously broadcast ESPN games, but not TNT. I was under the impression that ONLY TNT (and NBA TV) could broadcast on Thursdays.
The only Vulcan with common sense is Spock.
by Badalona Baddie on Jan 6, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
Evidently the contract reads that if TNT is showing team more than 6 times (the lakers)...
…they are exempt from the rule. However the Blazers are on TNT only 4 times…so they are not exempt. BTW this is lame. It think if TNT can’t guarantee the start time…they should forfeit their exclusivity (ie local broadcasting can simulcast)
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 6, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
Wait a minute
Is that actually a contract rule, or are you just being sarcastic? If it was real, I would be appalled.
No ...not sarcasm
see Corvid’s comment below
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 6, 2012 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
The way I understand it . . .
TNT is broadcasting more than 6 Lakers games this season. When that happens, the local affiliate can also broadcast games, as long as 6 are blacked out over the course of the season.
TNT is broadcasting 4 Blazer games this season. So, it looks like we’ll possibly get screwed for another Lakers game, a Clips game, and the Miami game
Well...
if…This would all work out just fine if Turner could reserve a 30 min overlap slot on one of their other networks (TBS, TruTV, both of which have shown NBA games in the past). If the game goes late, or into overtime, then the West Coast game would be protected for at least 30 min. If they don’t need it, they could show a re-run of “Cops.”
At the very least, they should use NBA TV (also operated by Turner), unless it is already occupied by another game. They have the technological capability to run any feed on any channel, just like ESPN.
Absolutely ...couldn't agree more
and THAT is the main point of Dave’s rant (deserved) against TNT. They have the ability to make it right ….but do not. And that is BS
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
by 92wastheyear on Jan 6, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Does TNT really need teh extra TV timeouts in overtime
watching 3 possesions and then another series of commercials is really annoying when its preventing me from watching the preferred game of the night. I under stand stretching out the last 2 mins of a game but that policy is keopt in place for all subsequent overtimes. Personally I think we deserve better ratio the 1 part content to 3 parts commercials in all programming including sports. Outside of Blazer’s all my TV viwewing ins Netflix and there’s more than one reason commercials are one of them.
That's an NBA thing not an TNT thing ...
3 new timeouts each overtime, no more than 2 in the last 2 minutes. I could see removing one, but 2 seems about right.
A casually paying attention Fan...
Well, all though much of what Dave points out is undeniable reality, accuse me of a knee jerk reaction but I don’t expect any national network to pull away from a 3 OT situation to cover the start of another game. It’s just NOT going to happen. And from all reasonable perspective, I don’t believe it should happen.
A safety valve in the form of a sister network charged with picking up those alternative games who’s coverage will be shortened or delayed? Nice idea, but it creates problems of it’s own.
I know as Blazer fans, it sucks. But obviously, I don’t think TNT operates to try to alienate or upset the fanbase of either specifically The Blazers or generally The N.B.A.. They stayed with a 3 OT game…they must. There are commercial realities that unfortunately are going to hamper/hinder flexibilty here.
It’s not like they covered the 3 OT game, then followed with a presentation of Heidi. I was at work through 1/2 time and could only start watching the game in the 3rd. So perhaps I was insulated from the frustration.
Everyone can offer suggestions, but bottom line TNT is going to want to control as much of the exclusivity of their broadcasts as possible. So they aren’t going to want to lift local restrictions. They also might be very hesitant to start shuffling games around from TNT to sister or mirror networks. Anything suddenly shuffled, bounces something somewhere else. There really is no easy answer here.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
I think most people would agree that they should not pull away from a 3 OT game
As for the going to a sister station that is exactly what ESPN does with it’s NBA coverage …and it is what TNT and TBS have done in other instances …so it can be done. Additionally, TNT allows local coverage simulcast in certain instances ….they really could just do that any time the can’t meet the advertised tip time (which is always)
"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"
CSN
The problem is that TNT buys out the rights from Comcast, unlike the LA market the local Blazer fans don’t have a local channel to watch. Most blazer fans would prefer to watch CSN anyways so if TNT’s not gonna make the game available in the channel we prefer they should at least make the 1st half of the game available to watch.
by blazin4dayz on Jan 6, 2012 5:20 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
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