A Humble Request
I know I'm probably only fueling the fire here, but if you guys are going to "invade" my blog, please stop attacking its' very existence. I'd be willing to ignore it if it happened only once or twice, but every single time there's a game against the Trail Blazers, several members of Blazer's Edge come over and talk about how there's no members on my blog, how it's "atrocious", how you guys outnumber the Thunder fans, et cetera. No other SBN NBA community has done such a en masse dissing of my blog.
All I'm asking is that you show a little respect. When you come over to Welcome to Loud City, you're heading over to someone else's house. Just because we're Thunder supporters and we're not a large community, it doesn't give you the right to poop on our carpet.
Welcome to Loud City is something I've poured days of hard work into, trying my best to attract readers and a community. I've sacrificed much of my life for little pay, it's a labor of love. And, I admit, I screw up sometimes. Like my analysis of tonight's game, which was pretty far off the mark. But if you look at the previews for the 6 other games this season, you'll see that I was pretty accurate in my description. When I say the Blazers aren't going to win, it's not me being a homer. It's me trying to make the most accurate assessment of what will happen based on the information available. I'm sorry it doesn't always match up.
But having Blazers fans come over and insult the blog is destroying any chance I have of building up the community. Having a blog with well-reasoned posts doesn't "magically" mean you get views and a community, even on SBN. I've seen people blog consistently for a whole year outside of the network and get nary a comment. WTLC is entering its' third year, and was basically a one-man show for the first year and a half. We have to compete with Daily Thunder and the OKC Thunder Fans forums, both of which were established before WTLC. Making a community in 2006 was a lot easier than trying to make one in 2010.
If you want to come over and talk about your team, the game, or basketball in general, that's fine. If you want to pound your chest and talk about how great the Blazers are, that's fine too. If you want to rip my analysis, great. I love different opinions. But when you start talking about how terrible or ghosttowny my blog is, you're only hurting me and my blog. And by doing that, you're ruining the chance of someone actually saying something back.
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it wouldn't surprise me if many of these people were former sonics fans
that had their team ripped out of their lives by clay bennett homeboy david stern.
Jeff Pendergraph:
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by Tofu Anonymous on Jan 4, 2012 2:49 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Not to be a jerk
But you DO have a lesser fan base. I dont see why you took the time to write this when youve had to write 7 game articals in ten days. I havent seen a whole ton of the articals “dissing” your blog as you boldly put it. But I saw how blazers fans were “dissing” thunder FANS not your blog for being unsupportive of your team. Hence your “ghost town blog” I may be speaking for just myself here but I envy that you guys have such a well rounded team that is full of young and skilled assests. And honestly you guys could have easily beaten us if we didnt have our durant killer (wallace) and durant slower(batum) anyways when I a blazers fan, the fan who has had a very underrated team lately who has writers from blogs all over “sleeping on the blazers” and chalking up an automatic win for their team, whose teams isnt a headline artical atleast once a week or so on espn nba DOES find it “atrocious” that you have such a high caliber, great, highly praised team and little to no fan base. I know your in your third year for this blog but you shouldnt take these comments from blazers fans so personally. They are attacking the fans. Not you or your blog, ive read your blog, weekly just like 15 or so other teams in the nba. And yours is good, like I said before its the little online fanbase my friend.
Formally known as: My_name_a_rudy
by Blaze_that_trail on Jan 4, 2012 1:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
That comment was for zorgon
I just miss clicked on my droid and it went there.
Formally known as: My_name_a_rudy
by Blaze_that_trail on Jan 4, 2012 2:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
After checking it out briefly
That’s almost definitely not the case. The reality is that BE membership is just so large and unwieldy that you’re going to have some people who will feel the need to troll and puff out their chests at how superior BE is to other SBNation blogs, especially the smaller, less populated ones. It’s basically akin to the Laker trolls you periodically see around here. There are a lot of completely normal, well-adjusted (if spoiled by their success) Laker fans who don’t feel the need to troll other websites, but when you have that many fans, even bandwagoners, there will be some trolls hopping on board, too. This wasn’t the first time another SBNation blogger has complained and it almost certainly won’t be the last.
The sad thing is that nearly every team does have a fairly vibrant internet community that would interact with BEdgers, it’s just not always on the SBNation platform, and my impression is that Dave/Ben/Timmay have some TOS with SBNation that requires them to only link to other SBNation blogs. Some of them happen to be over at ESPN’s truehoop network (Daily Thunder would be a prime example, coincidentally) and others run on independent platforms (clutchfans.net is way more populated than TheDreamShake), but they’re out there.
Teasing WelcomeToLoudCity is basically the equivalent of Daily Thunder members going over to Portland Roundball Society and mocking what a ghost town it is over there.
by Royster on Jan 4, 2012 4:54 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
ZorgonB is lying.
I have reviewed every comment/article/etc on Welcome to Loud City over the last 52 hours. The comments made by Blazersedge members were a shot at players on the Thunder, and were NEVER directed towards the Thunder blog as Zorgon has stated. The only comments that were even borderline derogatory were a response to the poor behavior of Kendrick Perkins and Russel Westbrook on the basketball court last night. All other comments were statements of support and praise for the Blazers. The truth is: He is simply trying to make us feel bad after his team lost.
by jrzy49 on Jan 5, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
he stated that he deleted the ones that were againt the blog, fans, etc.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 5, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Then he has no evidence.
That’s like a prosecution team going to court and trying to accuse someone of homicide after tampering with the evidence.
by jrzy49 on Jan 5, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I went over and looked right after the game
and there were some talking about how horrible the site was and I thought it was pretty mean so glad they were deleted. Yeah, we beat them and it was great but didn’t think it was cool to do that … we still have to face them later in the season and they are a good team so they could still win next time and we wouldn’t like it if they were trolling around making fun of us.
Of course, our site is better but there’s no need to rub their noses in it!
I didn't really know much about your site before today.
But now I’m headed over to check it out. If goons don’t stop blasting you, at least you wrote a good ad for your blog.
by FlyingOutlaw on Jan 4, 2012 3:56 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sorry mate-
I didn’t post on your site or anything (or even visit it for that matter), but I think that Blazer fans take exception to being overlooked and under-rated by national media and bloggers alike. I don’t think it was personal or anything.
On the other hand, this attention and “blog rivalry” could be just what you need, and it could encourage the faithful OKC fans to stand up to the big boys at Blazers Edge and really get behind your site. Here’s hoping.
by simoninaustralia on Jan 4, 2012 6:00 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Your name sounds like one of the most reviled chemicals in history.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
Well, it ain't THC, CJB
I love making Illy jokes to you ;)
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Alright fellas let's rec the holy heck out of this post just to show how magnanimous we are
And I am impressed with the tone that Zorgon adopted to communicate his message to us. Surely his message whould be heeded.
Thank you, Zorgon.
REC
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by scaredcow on Jan 4, 2012 8:43 AM PST reply actions 8 recs
done, and rec for your well-timed comment.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 4, 2012 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
As one of the commenters on your page, didn't mean to offend you or any OKC fans
Was just trying to stir up some friendly banter. After digging through your page for the first time yesterday, I can tell that you and your team put a lot of effort into the site, and hope you keep it up!
In the same vein, I disagree with you in the sense where you think we’re discouraging " any chance [you] have of building up the community." Whenever I see a lot of comments on a post, I tend to read that post more often as I see it has a lot more interaction. I hope that’s the case for you and your blog when we end up posting… and if I was an OKC fan seeing Blazer fans all over the blog, it would inspire me all the more to start in some fun banter and speak up about the team I love.
Best of luck to the blog though, and didn’t mean any harm!
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 4, 2012 8:43 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I understand your viewpoint and appreciate the time taken to write it out.
And your comments were a lot more harmless than some of the ones I had to delete. But, in my experience, comments directly attacking the blog like that don’t promote discussion, they hamper it. When Daily Thunder first started, it was overrun by Sonics fans constantly criticizing the lack of OKC fans in the comments and making fun of the writer for things outside of analysis. As a result, literally no OKC fans commented at all until he banned those commenters. I appreciate the couple members of my community that did come out in support, but I can’t help but thinking a couple held back because of what they saw.
Tony.psd = Da Man
Manager of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan
Yep. I was and still am a HUGE sonics fan:
(see my post here: http://www.blazersedge.com/2012/1/3/2679236/sonics-fan-turned-blazers-fan)
but I hope you didn’t see my comments as attacking you, the blog, or the fans in general. I think OKC has a great fanbase and team, and wish you guys the best this year.
But in true banter form, I hope that the Blazers outperform the Thunder this year in all aspects. I wouldn’t be a true Blazer fan if I didn’t share my love for the team and have some sort of pride. That’s all I tried to accomplish yesterday. I know you feel the same way about the Thunder!! :)
Cheers-
Brandon
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 4, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, he feels the same way about the Warriors first
and the Thunder second.
Nonetheless, point taken I’m sure.
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I'll be honest
I’ve checked out some of your writing. While I can’t comment on your skill as a writer, I can say your basketball opinions are critically uninformed for a guy writing for a fairly well-trafficked blog. You previewed the Blazkers-OKC game as if you were completely unaware of the status of the rest of the league except for what you hear in the TNT pregame show.
Readers of this blog can see how hard Dave and Ben (and others) work in staying up to date, knowing the league, etc; it’s the work that has earned them respect here, not just that their blazers fans as well. It appeared to me like you are doing significantly less work, and I think it shows in your writing.
M, period. Fresh, comma.
WRONG!
Zorgon is learning and improving, just like the rest of us.
His work ethic and basketball knowledge are beyond reproach.
This is my signature. Do you like it?
his knowledge is certainly not beyond reproach
Portland has “lost the size they always had”? Denver is expected to “crash and burn in the West”? These are outright uninformed comments. It’s one thing to be wrong, we all are; but if I were to go digging through the rest, I’m sure to spot similar patterns in his writing.
When it comes being “beyond reproach” – it’s self evident.
M, period. Fresh, comma.
by manzell on Jan 4, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I've had to write about 7 games in 10 Days....
So I admit, the preview for the night might have been a bit sloppy. But I stand by what I said.
When I talked about Portland not having size, I was comparing the 09-10 season to the 10-11 season. You were 3-1 against us in 09-10, we were 3-1 against you in 10-11. I probably wasn’t clear enough on that, but I was trying to cite size as a reason for that difference in wins.
As far as Denver, I expected them to crash and burn because of the loss of J.R. Smith, Kenyon Martin, and Wilson Chandler. Those three accounted for 30 of Denver’s points last year, and I don’t really think they’ll be able to fully recover from that. Their early record could still be a farce. Hey, I could be proven wrong, but that’s my opinion on the thing.
Again, I could have explained it better, but I was a bit sloppy that day and I like to keep previews as concise as possible. You can’t judge and entire book by one post.
Tony.psd = Da Man
Manager of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan
Don't worry about it, dude
Everyone has a right to their opinion. You’re not a great blogger yet, but you put in the work. I respect that and wish you nothing but success.
In 2009/2010 we had a healthy Roy
in 2010/2011 we didn’t. Size is not the relevant common factor, kemosabe.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 5, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
Good point here
Criticizing someone’s opinion and expressing a different one (politely) is OK. But simply saying “ha-ha, nobody reads you” (if, in fact, that’s what people were doing) is rude. One can point out areas for improvement if one likes, but if anyone thinks a particular site deserves no traffic, the appropriate way to do so is to avoid it.
Steve Goodman lives.
by twinsbrewer on Jan 4, 2012 9:31 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Rec for a very humble request
But there is a truth was spoken by anitachampionship. It’s a blog! Banter is what happens, and what makes you want to write back. There are some out of line posts but such is life. I would love if Kendrick Perkins wasn’t such a punk, but I really can’t do anything about it. Same goes for this situation. Good luck on your blog ZorgonB, still wish your team was in Seattle though.
I know I learned of Blazers Edge
by blogging at the Oregonian (O-Live) and another friendly blogger told me about B-Edge. The Bloggers on B-Edge are so far superior to that of the newspaper I haven’t gone back. I would think you should try to and attract a blog following by getting the word out somehow. As far as your content, it’s just fine! bloggers will quickly point out to other bloggers on this site when they say something that comes up short and it’s usually lightning quick. Somehow you have to reach out and get a friend of a friend recommending type situation going. Good Luck!!!
by XBlazerfan on Jan 4, 2012 9:56 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
After going to Loud City last night
I quickly decided to ask myself ,what would Dave do? So I did the obvious and stayed out of the fray, this was not the Rockets site or any other with that sort of following and it just did not seem fair. Good luck with your site I am sure in time the following will grow. Go Blazers!
WWDD (what would Dave do?) we could probably whip up some bracelets with that on it and I bet the BE community would think twice before posting mean spirited comments… Haha
by 7ismyfavorite# on Jan 5, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions
What a bummer, SBN needs more comradery, less trollisms
I hate to see people being negative towards others in any shape or form. I personally have not posted anything on your site, but I will officially be joining it now to spread some positivity. As for blogging in general, I used to NEVER do it simply because it attracts weak minded individuals who could never say half of their trash talk to your face, instead they choose to do it in a highschoolish, childish manner behind a computer screen. And they are ALWAYS looking for some one to unleash their negativity upon. I am bummed that there were several Bedgers who attacked your site, not cool at all. I am also a member of the Dream Shake Rockets website. Anytime, including last night when they played LAL, I visited their site and recieved nothing but nice comments. Ofcourse, I was only giving nice comments and wishing them good luck to beat LAL, but thats all I got back in return. I would hope that the future brings you more amiable bloggers instead of immature trolls who try to bring everybody around them down.
Keep up the good work. Good Luck and see you soon.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 4, 2012 10:53 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I didn't read any of the comments as attacking.
It’s one team against another. That’s the beauty of sports. Talking “trash” to the other team, all in good fun of course. It’s never personal. I have complete respect for OKC’s fans, the blog, and their team.. and this is coming from a Sonics fan.
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 4, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
I'm with you on this one
Sports result in hurt feelings, it’s just the nature of the beast. When you do something foolish like guarantee a win, and it doesn’t happen, you have to take your lumps. I haven’t read the comments, and I’m sure they were insulting, but you’re right, where there’s sports, there’s trash talk.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jan 4, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions
I didnt read any of the comments, just Zorgons letter, but
As we want our players to show good sportsmanship, as fans we need to show support for our team and also respect for our opponents. To dog on ZorgonBs site for lack of members, terrible writing or anything is wrong. It isnt easy to run a blog site for 1 thing and for 2, nobody is perfect, NOBODY. Blogging should follow the same rules as “If you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all.” So many people are nitpickers who pick apart every comment just to argue or say something negative, but to out right go out of your way to be negative in any way to someone else is a shame.
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 4, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
And while we're wishing for things that will never happen
I want a pony. I’ll name it Butterscotch.
It’s just the nature of the internet, and the armor of anonymity.
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
by haildablazer on Jan 4, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Calvin and Hobbes?
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
I wasn't thinking of it when I replied, but that is one of my favorite strips in the best comic of all time

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
there's one where Susie is talking about how many friends she has
and then says something along the lines of “as long as we’re pretending I’d also like a pony.”
Made me think of that. And yeah, Calvin and Hobbes is phenomenal. I’m not sure phenomenal even does it justice…what a great comic.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
It’s just the nature of the internet, and the armor of anonymity.
^ You’re right about this ^
but as a community here at bedge, we could hope to be above being aholes. Same reason I joined the “over 40 clan” for MW3. Tired of playing with potty mouthed kids and wanna be whatevers. People can talk all the sh!t in the world and have no one to call them on it.
As for ZorgonB’s blog. Didn’t read it or even go there, but I still hope we kick the Thunders butts!!! No offense!
Ugly women are like men.......you're going to have to work!
Like Kendrick Perkins, right?
As we want our players to show good sportsmanship
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 4, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Aldridge totally deserved to get hacked
No good posterization goes unpunished.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
In a perfect world, I'd agree....
but it’s not a perfect world. I really have no problem with people pointing out the inaccuracies of my writing, because it helps. I only have a problem with people talking about non-basketball related things and trashing the blog directly. Criticizing a blog for a lack of members is weak.
Tony.psd = Da Man
Manager of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan
I pu the blame on Dave, Zorgon
Dave told us to check out the other side of the aisle at WTLC in his recap, which is what I did. If Dave omitted the link you might have been spared. Dave be careful with your angry mob in the future (\end{saracsm}).
I was very dissappointed to see that only Bedgers had posted and that OKC fans had nothing to say about the game. We all react in differnet ways and obviously several edgers took it upon themselves to fill the void of comments at WTLC (relatively speaking). I had hoped to see the sentiments of you fans…Durant just had tired legs, 7 game sin 10 nights, etc. Best of luck.
good points
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Haters Gonna Hate
Get over it.
by ZenGarden on Jan 4, 2012 4:57 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
A few comments had to be deleted
Because they were outright trolling. What’s left are the more harmless of the bunch.
Tony.psd = Da Man
Manager of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan
I'm disappointed to hear that this even happened.
I think you’ll find overall that we’re a friendly community, unless you’re a laker fan.
by blazer_tk on Jan 4, 2012 10:55 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
I do feel a little sorry for WTLC
But, other than Pscho Seth over at Back Side of the Sun, BEdgers are pretty well regarded by bloggers across SBN. That a few of them acted out, perhaps inappropriately, doesn’t seem like a reason to call out the entire blog.
It probably would have been more appropriate if ZorgonB had messaged the offenders individually, and banned the legitimate trolls. If you got a problem with a few BEdgers, talk to them. Talking to the whole blog makes me think you got a problem with the whole blog, and I got a problem with that.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
by HailOden! on Jan 4, 2012 11:12 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I dunno, as I said above
It’s not like Seth is the only one that’s ever had a problem with BEdge. I had completely forgotten about that whole episode in my comment above and was more thinking about Tom Ziller complaining to Dave about a bunch of BE members rooting for the Blazers over at SacTownRoyalty in one of their GDT’s on the last day of the season when a Kings win (meaningless to them) would have helped our playoff seeding. I can’t remember too many specifics, but I seem to recall their being some issue with the TWolves blog and BE members semi-recently and something minor with BlogaBull and/or SilverScreenAndRoll at some point.
My impression (I certainly can’t speak to the feelings of other bloggers) is that they consider BE to be a high quality blog with lots of great content and discussion, but it’d be preferable to not deal with the BE hordes that pour through when the floodgates are open.
Sadly, very few SBNation blogs really have the volume of posters to not simply have their comment sections overwhelmed by BE members, and if I’m a Bulls fan on a Bulls blog, I probably want to talk Bulls with other Bulls fans, not Blazer fans.
I just went over to WTLC, and I now rescind this comment
I do feel a little sorry for WTLC…That a few of them acted out, perhaps inappropriately, doesn’t seem like a reason to call out the entire blog.
There were maybe two or three comments by BEdgers that I would consider disparaging, at worst.
It’s not like Seth is the only one that’s ever had a problem with BEdge.
This is true, but not in WLTC’s case. The most “egregious” comments were by guys with fewer than 200 comments on BEdge. As I recall, this is similar to the other issues (those you referenced) we’ve had with other blogs in the past. While regular BE poster often visit other blogs for friendly banter, the BE trolls on other blogs are rarely among the most entrenched members of this community.
So, imho, Zorgon can pee in their own own tea cup all he/she wants. But he/she has no right to come over and pee in OUR tea cup over some harmless comments made by some rogue Blazer fans who rarely even post on BEdge, let alone WTLC.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Should read "not applicable in WTLC's case"
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
I don't know how this is peeing in our tea cup
asking BE members to be respectful there. It’s obvious BE members are the culprits, regardless of their posting frequency, and it’s a whole lot easier to make a single fan post here than to send out a bunch of individual e-mails, which, if you’re like me and have your account linked to an address that you rarely check, may not even be seen.
Maybe two posters were a little disparaging, at worst
Nobody crapped on the carpet till Zorgon made the FanPost. And even if they had, sending a pair of emails takes much less time than making a FanPost.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
by HailOden! on Jan 4, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Meh, it's his blog
If he doesn’t want that, it’s his prerogative. It’s not like BE has some divine right to post wherever they please, and as Adam guessed, and blazerblaze basically confirmed below, what’s left has probably already been pruned down to the least offensive stuff. And if this actually has happened multiple times like Zorgon said in the fanpost, I think this isn’t an unreasonable response.
But really, we’re not talking about high level BE analysis on their blog, basically just generic trash talk, even if it’s friendly. I wouldn’t say that really adds a ton to the conversation and if someone doesn’t want to read it, friendly or not, I’m not sure why that’s a problem. As much as he’s getting called out for having a thin skin, are we really any better here if we’re getting offended by this?
I never said we have some divine right to post whatever we wan, wherever we want
And they didn’t take down any of the comments. You misunderstood blazerblaze. Seriously, check out the pregame, GDT, and postgame. ZorgonB got his panties in a bunch.
In fact, this is what one of their long time posters had to say this morning:
Ill give it up to them
Im so used to trolls trying to get a rise out of my favorite teams fans but I gotta admit the Occupy Loud City movement was for the most part pretty classy and actually a little funny. Portland fans earned a whole lot of respect from me today
I can understand that not everyone on BE is offended by ZorgonB the way I am. Some people (like me) have thin skin. But I really don’t see how you can say that this FanPost is a reasonable response.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
by HailOden! on Jan 4, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
No, I did take down the worst of the bunch.
But my goal with this fanpost was to basically let people know what is and isn’t allowed on my blog. I know, there are always boneheads that will burst through the gate. But I was hoping (perhaps naively) that this would stem the tide.
And, the next time the Thunder play the Trail Blazers, I’ll feel a bit more justified deleting outright vicious comments or using the banhammer.
Tony.psd = Da Man
Manager of Welcome to Loud City
#1 Warriors, Thunder, and Adonal Foyle Fan
Please bust out the ban hammer on our trolls.
They deserve it.
Lets keep it civil and classy BEdgers
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
Bring Back Dre.
The vast majoriy of us are civil
however there are always a few who didn’t get enough love from their mommy.
by NWfan on Jan 4, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm well aware.
That’s why I’m saying ban the trolls. If you’re having some friendly banter on WTLC I really couldn’t care less. But when you’re basically personally insulting Zorgon, I think it’s really not cool, and I am totally okay with those offenders being banned.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
Bring Back Dre.
yeah
I certainly can’t speak for all of us, and none of us can control the actions of others, but I appreciate you coming here to voice your feelings on the matter.
That blog is your house and we need to respect that. A side effect of this blog growing so much is that you will get some members posting disparaging things in inappropriate ways and places. That isn’t a reflection on all of us.
I believe that you probably will help stem the tide with this from a blog war perspective. I wish WTLC luck in its growth process, I wish your team doom and underachievement.
We can get a little chippy when we feel disrespected, which is all the time, and I think the rivalry + your game preview + the silly “occupy Loud City” movement resulted in this. I hope that our team has earned your respect, as the Nuggets will as well, and that we can be considered a little more formidable going into our next meeting.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
I don't fault anyone who manages or moderates a blog for removing comments or using the banhammer as they see fit
That said, I guess I’m not really sure whom you’re trying to address with the FanPost: the people who made the comments you had to remove, or the BEdge community in general. Are the comments that remain on WTLC part of the problem?
Either way, I do appreciate you airing your concerns. And I hope I don’t seem pretentious in anything I’ve already said or will say. It’s certainly not place to tell you how to run your blog, instruct you in online etiquette, or even to tell you how to act on BEdge. However, I do think it would be more appropriate to address the individuals you have beef with rather than call them out in front of all of BEdge.
Oftentimes, when a new/visiting poster(s) does something disrespectful on BE, one of the mods will leave a comment in response welcoming them BE, then outlining some of the rules of decorum on BE and thanking them for compliance. Most people seem to respond pretty well to that, and it avoids calling out an entire community, or making several individuals look bad in front of an entire community that otherwise would not have known that anything inappropriate had been posted.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Exactly
I thought the Blazers fans that posted on WelcomeToLoudCity were rude and classless. ZorgonB’s fanpost was anything but.
As far as the absence of “high level BE analysis”, let’s keep in mind that a lot of their fans (and bloggers) are still fairly new to the sport of pro basketball.
that's a backhanded compliment if I've ever heard one
let’s keep in mind that a lot of their fans (and bloggers) are still fairly new to the sport of pro basketball
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
I was just giving you a hard time
but I would bet that OKC has plenty of long time NBA fans. Look how quickly they adopted the team as their own. My point is that I don’t think they want an excuse, and I don’t necessarily agree that a lack of presence on one blog is indicative. On the other hand you may be right, although if I was from OKC I wouldn’t necessarily want to hear that even if it was true. That’s all I was saying.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
I doubt they do
Arent they like the cannibals of the NBA?
I dont know what got said over there
but you would think that Oklahoma fans would have thick skin being that they basically stole one of the best franchises in the league
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the fans didn't steal it, they just accepted it
and just because they don’t have a large online presence doesn’t mean they don’t have a good fanbase
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Hmmm
Maybe most Oklahomans don’t have Internet access…..
by MoonShooter on Jan 4, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Im just surprised they could be offended by anything
they should all be ashamed
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Well, I meant from BE posters, not their group
If 90% of what was posted here was “Go Blazers! get the W tonight. Where is everyone?”, BE wouldn’t have the rep it does. If you removed every post by BE members from WTLC would basically mean removing a bunch of those posts, not a ton of analysis.
Addressing individuals doesn't address the larger problem, or inform future posters.
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by Zorgon on Jan 4, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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Sheesh Zorgon, gimme a break. Your whining about the Occupy Loud City event is about as sad as your pregame analysis. Does Dave go on other blogs and moan about this kind of stuff? If so, I will strongly consider no longer coming to Blazers Edge. i really don’t think your helping yourself, dude.
"Occupy Loud City"?
Give me a break.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Jan 4, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
It's Called Parody
I’m pretty certain that the context in which the posters described “Occupy Loud City” was meant for parody as opposed to boastfulness. That being said, I’m not sure what you want a break from. Are you wanting a break from the term “Occupy Loud City” because you think it’s bad parody, or is it because you didn’t realize it was parody but rather confused it for self-importance?
Either way I’m all for clever, playful, deriding and when you can hit two birds with one stone like using terms such as “Occupy Loud City,” I say go for it.
by JDX on Jan 4, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I want a break from "Occupy" in general...
…unless it’s Wall Street.
The parody is played out.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
I can only imagine that a number of comments were removed.
I just checked out the gameday thread and was not appalled. Yeah, there was a dig about the number of comments on the thread, but nothing to get too bent out of shape over.
If several abusive comments were removed from the thread, okay, I wasn’t there. But if what I saw is what you got, we get crap like that and much worse every time the Lakers come to town.
Your team is in the spotlight now, the darlings of the national media. You’re going to get a lot more trolls in that position. Beyond that, there’s already the animosity pouring out of the Emerald City that you will never ever shake (it was wrong).
I’m reccing this post because trolling is dumb, but you should toughen up, ZorgonB—it’s only gonna get worse.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Jan 4, 2012 11:44 AM PST reply actions 9 recs
thank you
dont they have the biggest bandwagon fanbase after the Heat?
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gotta be the Lakers, but they're up there
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
I was part part of the Occupy Loud City movement
I posted that first comment thinking perhaps someone would actually write back but all I got was echo00)))))))) until I checked later and saw only other Blazer fans had been writing.
I personally think that up until game time (and I never looked later) nobody wrote anything trashy and that if occupy Loud City did anything, it should be to make it look as though people actually comment on your blog, possibly encouraging people of your own loud city ilk to post a few themselves.
but please, by all means, pull out the pepper spray and tazer and go to town.
I guess your comments were removed.
Not having seen them, I can’t comment as to whether they a) made it look as though people actually commented on the blog, or b) made Blazers fans look like jerks.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Jan 4, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, that was pretty bad after all. Feel bad for some of the guys over there now.
But I still find it kind of funny, as horrible as that sounds.
Batum Shakalaka
really?
what was so bad about it exactly?
I just think it’s funny and all in good humor…and the two OKC fans who showed up weren’t disrespected at all and seemed to get the joke
Why don't you send the OKC crew over here if your so upset?
And while I’m still mourning the Raiders’ loss, you sir, can Cry Me a Rivers! Trololololololol
Batum Shakalaka
by WesMoneyy on Jan 4, 2012 12:17 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
After reading the comments on WTLC, it was pretty harsh, but clever.
And I have to admit it made me laugh.
Batum Shakalaka
Now I feel really bad. My apologies to the OKC Nation (I was not apart of the trolling during the game, just the slight trolling above :))
Can’t believe I’m flip-flopping.
Batum Shakalaka
by WesMoneyy on Jan 4, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
ZorgonB has a very valid point
I was ashamed of what some of the Blazersedgers were posting on WelcomeToLoudCity. We should cherish the large, vibrant, Blazer-obsessed community we have here on this site, rather than take it for granted and use it to bully other teams’ blogs.
Believe it or not, Blazersedge didn’t have a huge following on day one. It took a lot of blood, sweat, and tears by a lot of different people to make it into what it is today. Large internet fan bases don’t happen overnight, I’m sure the Thunder’s will grow with time, just as the Blazers’ has.
by BlazerTag on Jan 4, 2012 12:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Blazersedge didn't take off until Dave took over
No offense to Casey but Dave took the next step as a discussion forum rather that just a compilation of all possible Blazers news.
I read Blazers Thoughts because it was the best discussion blog bar none. I did not read Blazersedge at that time as I got more from Truehoop (before it was an ESPN washjob). I must credit Henry for pointing me to Dave at Blazers thoughts.
With the addition of Ben Bedge had an insiders perspective. Since then the oregonian has been largely irrelevant for Blazers news/opinion in my opinion. I don’t miss Quick or Canano.
Wow...
I did notice some trolling posts when I went a lurked at WTLC after the game last night, and I was quite frankly very disappointed that my fellow Blazers fans would do that. And now after reading some of these comments i am even more ashamed. Guys, we can celebrate our decent win, but we don’t have to bombard opposing teams blogs with trolling comments just because we feel like gloating about 1 win over a team lead by a certain Small Forward that many Blazers fans are still sour grapes over.
Apologies Zorgon, you do not deserve that.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
Bring Back Dre.
I have no problem with this fanpost
and after reading the comments I can certainly see where being flooded with Bedgers would be offensive to someone who has put a lot of effort into getting that blog off the ground.
OKC doesn’t get much sympathy from me. I do not like them. They are the media darlings, the Zombie Sonics, and just plain not very likable when you share the division with them.
However, anything that casts this blog or its community in a bad light is not something that we should want a part of. I respect this guy’s efforts to turn WTLC into a more frequented blog and a larger fan community. We should also want that.
Currently they do not have the numbers to defend themselves from a BEdge invasion, and it turned into Blazer fans commenting on a Thunder blog. That ain’t our house guys. If ANY team did that here at a time when there were much fewer of us, we would be offended, irate, and feel run over. It is bad form for us to occupy their blog. We can go there, comment, engage, postulate, discuss, etc…but we should not be “occupying” any house but Blazersedge.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
The weird thing to me about this whole idea of "blog pride"
is how utterly out of most of our control it is. Most of us had almost nothing to do with Blazersedge becoming the behemoth that it is today, and the driving factor behind most of our participation here isn’t due to the blog’s great content, but simply that we happened to be fans of a team with a great blog. If had been grown up an NBA fan in Minneapolis, I’d be commenting on TWolves blogs (maybe not as much time as I waste here, but time nonetheless). I may pop over to Blazersedge more than other blogs for the content, but it’s not like I’d suddenly become a Blazers fan just because of the great online presence.
My status (and most of ours, I’d guess) as a member here is essentially entirely due to the fact that I was lucky enough to grow up in Portland instead of Memphis or Milwaukee. Really the only thing separating us “super cool members of an awesome blog” and “stray tumbleweed in an empty blog” is that we happened to be Blazers fans.
Moreover, as people have said, these things take time. The foundations for BE were laid long before I joined with Casey and then Dave pre-Ben, and Ben, collecting various commenters and posters throughout the years who’ve stuck around. I’m not big on BE prehistory, but the blog itself is almost twice as old as basketball in OKC. Regardless of what you think of both sites’ writers/mods, even if you swapped Dave and Zorgon tomorrow, it’s not like WTLC would be anywhere near BE any time soon or BE would suddenly devolve to the current state of WTLC. There’s just too much inertia.
yeah
it’s a really special community here, I’m very grateful to be a part of it. It’s as much about the camaraderie and the people as it is about the Blazers
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Don't want weird internet nerds pooping on your carpet?
Don’t write a blog.
we can still win........
by RastaMonsta on Jan 4, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
virtual excrement is so difficult to clean off
This is my signature. Do you like it?
I’d say the 30 and rising recs you’ve received for this post suggests BE mainly agree with your sentiment. I appreciate the way by which you’ve expressed your frustration. I am not sure that the kind of people who did this to begin with would be thwarted by anything like this, but you should feel quite empowered to control your blog by any means necessary.
Like so

He has bad skin
Probably severe acne during adolescence.
Poor ugly dude.
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Isn't Danny Trejo a real life criminal, turned consultant, turned actor?
I heard he did some hard time before turning his life around.
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
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by Tyler Durrden on Jan 5, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
If only there was some magical box near you, where you could find these things out.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
where could I find such a device?
man, if I had something like that I could be king of the universe!!
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
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by Tyler Durrden on Jan 6, 2012 9:45 AM PST up reply actions
because you asked for it mittsabishy,
if that is your real name
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by Tyler Durrden on Jan 6, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions
Don't take 5 people's comments too seriously
I counted 5 comments regarding the activity of the blog. Only one of them was seriously out of of line. The others were just poking fun at the ironic name or making an observation. But it’s only 5 people out of the many people here, and I’d only label one of them as serious troll, and trolls will be trolls.
after seeing this drag on, I think it's been blown way out of proportion.
I’m scared to post on any opposing team’s blog now at this point as I don’t want to create any negativity towards BE or its fans. Everything can be taken out of context when posting on the net, and that’s exactly what happened..
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 4, 2012 3:58 PM PST reply actions
also--ZorgonB--if you're ever in Portland, I'll buy you a beer and would love to talk hoops.
Maybe we could get some other OKC fans in the mix as well as blazer folk for some friendly banter and boos (with hops).
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 4, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
aka booze
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 4, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
You blog is not at fault.
Rip City > Loud City
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by Oh. Em. Gee. on Jan 4, 2012 7:25 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
dang
Lots of rude people on the internet, I was hoping I wouldn’t see the day someone had to ask BEdge to be nice.
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
Hm,
I’m actually surprised that more BEs didn’t jump on ZorgonB for the uninformed preview of the Blazers. I don’t know what kind of posts were removed but I enjoyed the remaining ones and think the OKC fans, who are not terribly thin skinned, did, too. I hope that over time the his blog can grow, along with it’s quality and his ability to not take himself sooooo seriously, but right now, calling the blog Loud City is like a 90-pound weakling getting “MUSCLE MAN” tattooed across his forearms. Kinda leading with his chin there. He might even want to consider a post acknowledging the pain of Seattle (and Portland) fans over how the Sonics ended up being taken away because, hey, understanding is a two-way street.
by thaisteve on Jan 5, 2012 9:34 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Sorry to be blunt, but this comes off sounding like you're more upset over people criticizing your writing than anything else.
Ban the rotten apples if you have to, but don’t scold the entire BEdge community.
"Nicolas! You're the strongest boy in the world!"
Maybe they should also accept that they are the single most hated thing to all NW sports fans
go cry to clay
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