Trade Drawer 1/30
by dan_the_man on Jan 30, 2012 2:12 PM PST
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PrintAs we start to get past the early part of the season, a few things are becoming clear. On our end, our guards have been terrible. We need to mix it up. Down in LA, the Lakers are having big problems, too. Just a few days ago, they weren't even a playoff seed. They need to do something big to get back on top.
Bear with me for a minute while I blow everyone's mind.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7q5zex6
We send Camby, Wallace, Felton and Matthews to the Lakers.
The Lakers send Kobe, Steve Blake, and Metta World Peace back to us.
I know people are going to have issues with this idea, so let me try to address those one by one.
Kobe:
Yes, he has a no-trade clause. However, he is fed up with the Lakers, and he hates his new coach. He an Pau have also been feuding again. Kobe has gone on the record on more than one occasion about how much respect he has for coach Nate, one of the best coaches in the business. He loved working with Nate on the National Team. I don't have to tell you how much he'll help us, of course. And now that he's homeless in LA (he lost all of his houses to his wife), he doesn't have anything keeping him there.
Steve Blake:
Blake has been struggling in LA, but he was always a great player in Portland. He thrives under Nate, and he and Kobe now have proven court chemistry.
MWP:
It's true that Metta hasn't been his best this year, but he seems like another guy that could use a change of scenery. He's changed a lot in the last few years, to the point that I'm comfortable calling him a good character guy and a good locker room fit. He would also be a good, hard nosed role model for Batum.
Camby:
Without Odom, the Lakers are a likely Bynum injury from being in big trouble. Camby gives them a big boost if that happens. He's also an expiring contract in a league that just got tougher salary rules.
Wallace:
Crash more than replaces MWP, and the Lakers have been struggling finding a starting caliber SF. Crash has also always been a Laker killer, so they will be happy to have him there to keep that from happening again.
Felton:
The Lakers have also been struggling at the PG position, and Felton can really help. If he plays like he did in NY (and I can't see why he wouldn't), he's a huge upgrade over Fisher.
Matthews:
Wes hasn't been off to a great start, but everyone knows he's one of the up and coming SGs in the league. Of course, he won't completely replace Kobe, but he'll hit shots when they need it, and they'll love his top notch defense.
I look forward to hearing everyone's thoughts. I think this could be just the move we've been looking for.
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No way ever
N.O. has been offering Okafor for free for two years now, why would we give up our no1 trade asset for that bloated contract?
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We already have a trade rawer.
And another trade thread 4 fanposts down from this one.
What’s the point of clogging the sidebar with redundant threads?
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
Be nice :)
Anyways, I would like to part ways with Wallace before he demands an inflated contract.
Batum Shakalaka
exactly. don't we have more than enough trade drawers already?
I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s group of trade drawers calling for an unnecessary move to grab us a sub-par player.
Also…
OMG — A KOBE TRADE REQUEST? AND WE GET METTA WORLD CRAZY AND STEVE BLAKE BACK?
lol — awful…
"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 30, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
here is my trade
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7w42ghu
Why Chartlotte does it: Since they now have Kemba he can play every guard position and DJ Augustine is worthless to them. Not only that but they get to shed Tyrus Thomas contract and MJ can start fresher with Camby’s expiring deal.
Why Detroit does it: Parting with a promising big like Monroe would hurt but they really need a productive starting PG and they are so rare in the league and Felton would fill that role. Maxiel is more filler.
Why Indiana does it: again a white guy for a white guy wont even get noticed.
Why Portland does it: Giving up fan favorites like Felton, Camby and Luke would no doubt be tough but you got to look at it as a move for the future.
If the Blazers can’t get a move like this done they might as well fire everyone and make me the GM.
by Escrote on Jan 30, 2012 2:42 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
DJ Augustin is worse than Felton is 3-4 inches shorter.
sigh…
"If you can do a half-assed job of anything, you're a one-eyed man in a kingdom of the blind."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 30, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Detroit would never ever ever do this
neither would Indiana, but Detroit especially
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
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Dan… what exactly do you think you’re doing!??!
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by brandonmitchell on Jan 30, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
great trade drawer by the way
the other one was getting a little stale. I like your proposal and sorry if my trade one ups it… that wasn’t my intention even if it ended up happening like that.
Kobe's not leaving LA
also, just reading this trade proposal makes me feel dirty
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
i'm sorry
I hate kobe too much to even consider this.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
by YoniRap on Jan 30, 2012 3:46 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I wish....
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7y8gvdx
Funny thing is with some tweaking + cash and picks could MAYBE, be a possibility. I’m not as narrow minded as some blazer fans, haha.
no incentive for the Pacers to do this
Hibbert is a RFA, they’ll get him back, and they pretty much have their core in place (Collison, Granger, Hibbert, West, Hansborough)…
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
I hate Kobe. So much. So, so much.
So much. My heart pounds with anger at this idea.
"Brandon Roy has done this before."
by sabonis11 on Jan 30, 2012 4:39 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Well since you propose such a crazy trade,
im gonna post one as well:
Trade for Dwight Howard.
: )
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 30, 2012 4:55 PM PST reply actions
well now I've seen everything!
I don't give a damn for a man that can only spell a word one way.
Mark Twain
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i guess try this... my first shot at a fair value trade....
unlike some of the lunacy you see on these boards…
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7w9alja
why it works..
well the blazers need a PG… and although Curry might possibly be fragile as of now… his potential is much too high… too let that concern you all that much…
take on Biedrins contract, and get a really solid player in Wright…
and lets face it… the blazers need to focus on winning now or, damn near now…. while they have a top flight player in LMA
why the Warriors are down for the trade, well they get a somewhat solid PG in felton in return…. a big with some athleticism and a possible good future, and 2 excellent perimeter defenders in batum and mathews
Curry/Smith
Crawford/Williams/Wright (if right can play the 2)
Wallace/Wright
Aldridge/Thomas
Camby/Biedrins
not sure… but i think there’s alot in that to mull over for bother teams
it also gives the Warriors
a TON of assets, like the nuggets or knicks (used to) have… too make trades for marquee players…
no way
the woyers will never trade Biedrins for Chris Johnson. If Biedrins leaves their team they will need Camby in return.
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I heard that they will give him away to anyone who is foolish enough to pay that contract
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lose even more depth
but I think we’d be able to figure it out. otherwise, great.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
I kinda like this
Would see if they’d take Crawford instead of Wes first though.
We get some center depth, clear up some wing PT, and most important get the best player in the trade.
I don’t think the Warriors do it though, they’d rather build around Curry than anyone else, unless they really really hate Biedrins’ contract that much.
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
if you're talking about mine.
you don’t…. no team is perfect….
Lakers at SF, and PG
Heat at PG, and C
Thunder, PF and C (offensively)
if your weakest position is crawford… you’re doing something right…
Blazers would be fairly weak at SG…. but Center gains a little depth….
AND the most important thing this team can FINALLY space the floor for LMA… teams will be punished harshly for doubling… and Crawford without point guard duties, isn’t so bad IMHO….
when the warriors had JC,
they just sent him home to wait and become a FA. so, doubt they would take him back. a run and gun player Nelly didn’t like.
by shallwemaui on Jan 31, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
Nash & Okefor
Blazers get :
Steve Nash
Emeka Okefor
Suns get:
Raymond Felton
Nicolas Batum
Hornets get:
Marcus Camby
Portland 1st round pick
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
link
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7mnsow4
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
I think we can get Nash without giving up Nic
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 31, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I don't have one
it just doesn’t involve Nic for Nash. I think if you go after Nash you need to minimize the negative effects on your future since he’s so old. I’d give up Elliott before Nic, Nolan preferably…I just don’t think it’s gonna take Nic to get it done so I’d rather keep him. None of us can say for sure without talking to PHX’s GM, but it’s just my opinion that a Nash deal is extremely less attractive (to the point I likely wouldn’t do it) if it took Batum to get it done.
Of course Batum is now damaged goods if what happened last night is what I think it is.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
I'm more into the generalities of trade partnership than the nitty gritty specifics
which I think require too much insider knowledge for us to accurately speculate on. Not that I am discouraging anyone from doing it, I just prefer to talk about targets and the pieces we’d be willing to give up in a broader sense
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
For Nash?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7e88le4
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Phoenix wouldn't accept, imo.
because of Felton’s production this year.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
not enough for DWill
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 31, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6rspcwa
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST reply actions
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6rspcwa
A displaced Sonics fan that has somehow emerged as a Blazers fan (and loves it).
by anitachampionship on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Only problem is we end up with Ridnour which will land us in the Lottery
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I don't know why people think the Pacers would trade Hibbert.
Right now he is the second best Center in the east.
Loud pipes save lives!
Bad knees break hearts!
Time for an exorcism.
by We-B-Dunkin on Feb 1, 2012 9:17 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The idea for Hibbert
would be an overwhelming offer in free agency next year when we have cap room to out spend the Pacers.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
by 420Phenom on Feb 1, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Is he RFA or UFA?
Either way I like this!
Loud pipes save lives!
Bad knees break hearts!
Time for an exorcism.
Okay I just read that Orlando Is tired of DivaDwight
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=754wj72
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If you can pull that off you should be our new GM!
Loud pipes save lives!
Bad knees break hearts!
Time for an exorcism.
by We-B-Dunkin on Feb 1, 2012 9:19 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Still on the Bogut bandwagon.
Skiles hates Jax, this dumps salary and gives them two promising young guards, one of which is a Milwaukee native.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7s8w25q
I would also include 2nd round picks, cash and rights to Victor Claver. I wish we had a 1st round pick to give up, because I would include that too, but the earliest one is 2015
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
by gtbassett on Jan 31, 2012 9:21 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Good time to buy low
I would not give them any picks though
Maybe they should give us one
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And they would need to take smith "babbyhater" instead of williams
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2-3 months.
He could be back for a playoff run.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
Not the report I heard but OK.
I guess the question now is will the Bucks make the playoffs with him out that long.
Loud pipes save lives!
Bad knees break hearts!
Time for an exorcism.
please show the trades suggested in addition to the trade machine!!!
I cant access the trade machine from this computer!!! Its no fun when all I see is a link I cant access.
Curry
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6t8yc8c
Matthews would be a great fit in Chicago. Golden State would get a nice young center and also a first round pick from the Bulls and a couple 2nd rounders from Portland.
We would get Curry, which I would love despite his ankle injury. We would take on two bad contracts, but those same players fill needs for the team.
Curry
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6t8yc8c
Matthews would be a great fit in Chicago. Golden State would get a nice young center and also a first round pick from the Bulls and a couple 2nd rounders from Portland.
We would get Curry, which I would love despite his ankle injury. We would take on two bad contracts, but those same players fill needs for the team
never gonna happen....
don’t understand how the warriors trade the player with maybe the highest ceiling on their team… for a PG who’s playing terrible, a backuo center…. and a guy who’s played maaayyybbbee 5 minutes all year….
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7w9alja
not to brag…. but mine was a massive amount more realistic
could throw in E-will...
and a pick…
though to be honest… i don’t think we’ve got the pieces to effectively get curry….. we could get monta…. and we could get gordon, we could get Iggy…. but they would require batum…. not sure the Batumaniacs are ready for that yet…..
Who says no to this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=88nhey5
Plus add in Greg Oden to Phoenix
Portland
Trades: Felton, Matthews, Babbitt, Oden, 2012 1st round pick
Recieves: Rondo, O’Neal
Why?: The Trailblazers would have ample cap space to potentially offer Roy Hibbert and possibly Eric Gordon near max contracts in the offseason, probably also make the Trailblazers a little more attractive free gent team. Right now this would upgrade the team at PG for the length of Rondo’s contract, clear up the Greg Oden issue, insert Batum into the starting SG spot and creating an insanely good defensive(and passing) starting lineup, open up more minutes for Crawford and Williams, and nab a decent veteran center whose contract will expire at the end of the season.
Boston
Trades: Rondo, O’Neal
Recieves: Nash, Gortat
Why?: The Celtics desperately need a solid center and Gortat would fill that need and more. They have played better without Rondo somehow and they’re at a point where it’s either blow it up or prepare for a last stand. This would be a move that could very well take them over the top for one last time and bring the hall of fame team another ring. The shooting would be unstoppable, though the defensive would drop off at PG-more than that would be picked up at center. They would still have tons of cap space at the seasons end as well.
Phoenix
Trades: Nash, Gortat
Recieves: Felton, Matthews, Babbitt, Oden, Trailblazers 2012 1st round pick
Why?: Nash is bound to be traded soon and although they really like Gortat- a 1st round pick, flier to attempt a miracle on Greg Oden(if they can’t do it, no one can), year to court Felton, and a building block in Matthews isn’t too shabby. At wore they still lose games and they’ll still have Matthews but at best they resign everyone and Greg has a comeback and they look like they got the steal of the century. Decent risk but huge potential reward.
by philthebballplayer on Feb 2, 2012 3:31 PM PST reply actions
Pheonix
after laughing on the phone as it’s being proposed….. throw in batum on top of it though…. and they might give it some thought
along with a 1st rounder...
and maybe camby for the expiring contract
Ballsy trade
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7n9dnt4
We give up a lot, a real lot, but we set up two key positions for long term that we can mix and match around.
PDX gets curry, Beidrens, Walton, Wright
Gs gets gasol, batum
Lakers get Wallace, Felton, camby.
Lakers make one more run with kobe filling out roster.
Gs is now a playoff team with form able bigs a playmaker SG and glue guy sf. They can grab a pg next draft.
We get pgtf next to Aldridge. Those two alone can win with in out game. We now fill in around them. We might take step back this year, but are in far better shape long term with a star at pg and PF. A small and big.
That's a good one!
Pretty even. Would be ballsy for us, but we need to make ballsy moves right now.
yeah i like....
i think LA would want more though… BUT, if the Magic don’t trade Howard, it would be a great move for them, as they could probably sign him, extend wallace, and trade bynum, for a VERY good wing
Yeah
You could do this with ny as well going with stoutamire. They would free up cap space to get Williams to pair with Anthony. Ny likes Felton and would compete this year with more options next. Having 3 quality players with expiring contracts is of huge value to the big market teams since they will be able to sign guys. I think this trading deadline will make or break PDX for years to come. We MUST get value out of these expiring contracts!
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