Crawford is a terrible fit...
by NyahK on Jan 29, 2012 9:12 AM PST
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PrintI understand he is a capable scorer and has perhaps done a lot for previous teams, but I really can't stand this guy's game:
1. He is a ball hog. When he's at the top of the key and starts his crossover I cringe because I know he is going to chuck up a contested jumper and clank it off the back of the rim. Terrible shot.
2. If he isn't on fire (which is most of the time), he doesn't really impact the game in any other way.
3. I don't think he cares for Batum, because I swear he never passes to the guy.
Now, I'm sure he's a great guy off the court, but I just don't think he does much for our team. Honestly, I'm surprised Nate hasn't gotten irked by his forced shots (especially in the fourth quarter).
And on an unrelated note...
He really needs to stop licking his fingers! I'm surprised he hasn't caught some disease by now.
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I think he blows
on his hands instead of licks them. I remember Roy doing that, but he finished it up with a nipple rub. Hey, whatever works. If Rodman was still in the game, he’d take it to another level.
huh?
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 29, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Also, I don't think he has a problem with Batum.
Batum gets treated like the Golden Child, when obviously he is not Asian. In the Dali Lama tradition, the next incarnation of greatness is a man who is also Asian.
time for another one dude
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by Kevlar Rocket on Jan 29, 2012 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
Well, in Crawford's defense, You are wrong!
In my opinion of course.
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by mlsinpdx on Jan 29, 2012 10:09 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
yup
we got Jamal to be a shoot first guy, and that’s what he’s dong.
the team needs a guy who has the confidence to shoot it whether he’s on fire or not.
btw, rec’d your comment.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 29, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
*um, *doing not dong!
lol
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 29, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
We are so lucky that we got Crawford for half of market value
La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah
are you crazy?
We didnt get him to be a shoot first guy,he sucks at that
unfortunately I agree with that too
common Ray, I advocated for ya, dammit!
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 29, 2012 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
I advocated for him too....
And I still think he will be a great guard. Give him time!
by andyisnumerouno on Jan 30, 2012 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yep.
I hate it when he’s off, but we needed somebody who could create his own shot, otherwise teams would have really killed us late, post BRoy.
He and LMA have been really working the P+R well lately.
And he has made some better, and more frequent, passes lately (7 dimes in first half last night).
He’ll be fine…
seems like
whenever we get a P&R going really well between two people we will go to it 2-3 max and then completely forget about it for a quarter or two.. always irks me.
by bringbacksheed on Feb 1, 2012 2:10 AM PST up reply actions
oh and he rarely passes to Batum
Couldn’t agree more on that one, I always see Batum WIDE open at the 3 point line only for Crawford to look at him and continue his drive to the basket.
by bringbacksheed on Feb 1, 2012 2:11 AM PST up reply actions
Nash licks his fingers at the free throw line.
Kinda gross, but I think NBA courts are a bit more sanitary than than your local gym. Besides, you never know, maybe they roll NBA basketballs in Doritos before the game.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Jan 29, 2012 11:32 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Nacho cheese or cool ranch?
"Brandon Roy has done this before."
by sabonis11 on Jan 29, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
On the flip side...
1. He is playing more point guard this year than he ever has before, which I am sure is a big adjustment for him. But he seems to be coming around to it. See his 4-7 shooting night vs. Phoenix along with 10 assists.
2. He has to play within a system this year more than ever before. However, even if he’s not “on fire,” there isn’t another player on the team that can create his own shot better than Crawford and take some pressure off LA.
3. I’m pretty sure there isn’t a player in the NBA who wouldn’t pass to a teammate because he didn’t like them.
I don't totally remember how he was used in Chicago, but he's been a combo guard
splitting minutes between lead guard and off guard in both NYK and ATL for years now.
by howlingfantods on Jan 29, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If there is a player
I’m sure the Wizards will find him.
Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game
Crawford is doing just fine
If we did not have him, we would be splitting his minutes between E.will and babbit, so be happy.
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by jbay4 on Jan 29, 2012 11:40 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Yikes!
Thanks for the reminder.
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by Adam Randall on Jan 29, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
What makes you think Williams would be worse than Crawford?
Law of Logical Argument
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 29, 2012 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
It depends on whether you trust the coaching staff or not.
If you think the coaching staff are accurate judges of player abilities, then by default Williams would be considered worse than Crawford, otherwise Elliot would be in the game. Because let’s be honest, all we’ve seen from Elliot is strong play during scrub time.
This all comes down to whether you trust the abilities of the coaching staff.
by Timmay! on Jan 29, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I don't buy this argument
Not with McMillan.
McMillan is a loyalist. I believe it was Ben that quoted a response by McMillan on whether to give Batum more minutes at the 2: “And what, bury Crawford?”
I don’t think it matters for a moment that Williams performs better in practice.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 29, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
"And what, bury Crawford?"
That quote could easily be interpreted to not be a sign of blind loyalty, but a sign he feels Crawford is the stronger player at the two.
I'm sure Nate feels perfectly justified in his rotation
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 29, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
No
My point still stands – I don’t think Williams’ practice performance has anything to do with rotation minutes.
It would take an injury to move Williams ahead of Crawford (or Mathews, etc.). It just isn’t going to happen any other way.
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 29, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
You don't pay a guy
10 million a year to sit on the bench and watch a mid 1st rounder play basketball.
Because Crawford is awesome and a valued commodity in this league
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by AbuFatimah on Jan 29, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
not true
Everyone would get what they want. Batum playing the 2 and more Wes$. I’m kinda joking about Crawford, but I’d rather have Felton on our team that Jamal.
by Kevlar Rocket on Jan 29, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
He's only been on the team 30 days.
Ball hog? Remember 10 assists last game with efficient shooting?
...And one month is a good indicator that he's a terrible fit?
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by Adam Randall on Jan 29, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Crawford's style is pretty well established
The only surprising part of his game is the ability to play the point and only take 7 shots. May have been an anomaly – or portents of good things to come – but still unexpected.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 29, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
expecting him to elad the team in assists every night while averaging 20-24 minutes is absurd and I think you know that
by Willie Beamon on Jan 29, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
I don't expect that.
I was simply refuting the point made by ktngo09.
He is also the Blazers 2nd leading player in assists
Compared to the alternatives, Crawford is definitely valuable. Yes, there are times I cringe at his shot selection, but he also can get hot and hit from anywhere, he does a pretty good job of drawing fouls, and then converts damn near all of them. Couple these with his good assist numbers and you have on balance a pretty good player.
Really like Crawford as a person and like it that he is willing to
learn. And he cares about what is being said about him. So hopefully he doesn’t read this post.
Don’t really know why anyone would write a negative post about a player who is obviously trying to do his best. And IS improving.
I hope he doesnt read this either
Real Blazer frans love you Jamal!
Thank you for playing for us for half off this year we are very greatful
La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah
I also don't think he's been a great fit so far
Crawford seems like a good guy, but at this point, I wish the team had acquired or signed a capable veteran point guard, such as Luke Ridnour, instead of Crawford. We’d have someone to run the offense during Felton’s frequent poor games, there’d be a few minutes for Elliot Williams, and Batum might get more time at shooting guard.
Thats not Crawfiords fault and Crawford is a better SG than Nic and Elliot .
Crawford comes off the bench and some of you seem like you are afraid to say that Wes and Felton have stunk and Crawford has tried to come in and pick up BOTH of there flack while playing fewer minutes than both .
Crawford PER 15.1
Wes PER 14.1
Felton PER 10.9
Crawfords minutes 25 mpg
Wes minutes 33 mpg
Felton minutes 33 mpg
Yet somehow all some do is blame Crawford
There is not a shot creating scoring guard in the league who doesnt chuck a few shots if Wes and Felton were playing better he wouldnt even have to take as many shots as he has.
Crawford is the second best scorer on the team behind LA and when Crash,Felton,and Wes are struggling the way they have been he is gonna be called upon to look for his shot more.
If you want Crawford to pick his spots better why not get on the back of the under performing starters so that he will actually be in a position to actually have a choice between creating for himself or kicking it to someone else who just doesnt have .
What ticks me off is people being mad about silly stuff like this while totally ignoring that our running game has all but disappeared because of our starting perimeter players
by Willie Beamon on Jan 29, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Crawford better than NIc at the 2?
Not exactly.
Better than Williams? Crawford has played poorly enough in the SG role to make that highly questionable.
Law of Logical Argument
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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 29, 2012 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
I detest that mindless chucker, Jamal Crawford, as much as anybody here. The bum is career ...
loser, yes. Heck, here’s no doubt about it. Yet, his skills are nevertheless more suited for the 2 than Nicolas Batum.
Sad, but true.
That’s because Batum ain’t a 2; he’s a 3/4. Batum lacks the handles, court vision, and shot creating ability needed at the 2. Same goes for Wesley Matthews, to be honest.
This team has a giant hole at the 2 due to Matthews playing out of position — as he’s a natural 3 — the suckititude of Crawford, and the inexperience of Elliot Williams. Nobody currently on this roster is the answer, either—especially Batum.
"I Am Mine"
could we move LaMarcus to the 2?
lol
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by thankyouforblaze on Jan 30, 2012 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Re: SGs
Reggie Miller/Ray Allen/rip hamilton were never major factors at SG with ball handling/shot creation (that is the responsibility of the PG).
If you play Nico at the 2, you just have to play to his strengths like those guys I mentioned above, running him off screens and having him feed LA in the post (so if they double off him he gets the open look). Nic can be one of the best off-the-ball players in the league (when Nate’s offense doesn’t have him standing in a corner), since he is good at using screens to get enough space to catch & shoot or take 1 strong dribble to the bucket. Also, with Nic’s size and improving (but still raw) post game, he could create mismatches down low and force the defense to give his man help.
Ultimately the blazers need to not play jamal when he is hogging the ball and missing tons of shots (we call this the “And-1 Mixtape mode”), they should play him only when he is playing within the team concept.
by retirecards51 on Jan 30, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Dont you mean you think they should only play Crawford when he plays within the box that you want to put him in .
Ive yet to see one player or coach ever say Crawford wasnt playing with his teams concept .
Last 5 games jamal is averaging 16 ppg and 4 apg
45% fg 36% from three and 90+% from the line in 26 mpg
yet he catches all the flack while the guys who are actually stinking up the joint and playing more get free passes .
by Willie Beamon on Jan 30, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
I am so happy Crawford is a Blazer.
He’s elevated your venom to a new level. If there was any danger of you softening up this season, the Crawford signing averted that catastrophe—he’s keeping you on your toes, AK.
I look forward to an entire season of new and exciting barbs. Of course I hope he has a miraculously efficient year, forcing his critics to eat crow, but I think we all know that’s not gonna happen. For my part, I’ll just try to enjoy the dizzying crossovers and the what-the-hell-is-he-thinking-oh-my-god-it-went-in!!!!! moments that he brings every night, and hope he learns to find Batum when he’s cutting to the hoop.
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by Adam Randall on Jan 30, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
JCrossover
Thanks God!!!You are one of few here that loves Jamal and knows how to recognize a gifted offensive player,a real gunner that this team desparately needed…Jamal is a fantastic player to watch,you understand how good basketball is as a sport,when you see such a talented offensive player like him…Keep supporting good players,such as Jamal….
woa... "mindless chucker".....?
No way man. He fills a hole that our team had. Remember last year when we were way too selfless with the ball and wouldn’t take wide open shots? Crawford takes shots when he has them. He oozes confidence. Plus, if he has the ball with less than 5 seconds on the shot clock, he knows how to create his own shot.
Also, you gotta love the crossover. :)
by andyisnumerouno on Jan 30, 2012 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
All of our guards have played poorly this season
And no, Crawford hasn’t been worse than Felton, who’s been among the worst guards in the league this year.
PER is not the best measurement
PER heavily weighs points scored, which, apart from assists occasionally, is the only thing he does. Take a look at win shares per 36 min and compare. It is much more revealing as it applies to how many wins a team gets.
up until last game I felt roughly similar
but watching him last game I felt he was suddenly none of the negatives I had viewed him as. His assists were up and he wasn’t just straight chucking. I wouldn’t say it’s entirely changed my mind, but we’re a quarter of the way through the season and any changes for the better are worth waiting to see if they pan out before making that final judgement.
Yeah, there have been a couple of nice games.
I just hope he can continue to make better decisions and not chuck up shots when teammates are wide open. Hopefully last game was an indicator of things to come.
Every single shot he takes is crawful, save a few obvious open three point attempts.
He’s just talented enough to make some of these bad shots.
he's talented enough to get better shots
but he settles for the bad ones.
PHILLY!
by CleBlazer on Jan 29, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He's human...
On back to back to back nights it’s a little easier to shoot from the outside than beat your man off the dribble.
by odensraven on Jan 29, 2012 9:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i agree
with most of what you said, but i don’t think he’s a terrible fit. this team needs someone who can create his own shot from the perimeter. but we need it in moderation. not the constant chucking that he does.
PHILLY!
Whether Crawford is a good fit will be dependent on his ability to play off of teammates
Listening to Coach Knight yesterday during the UW/AZ game – he made the point that if your teammate is better at doing something – let that teammate do it.
It’s a simple concept, but one worth repeating in a game over and over again.
What does Crawford do better than his teammates? Handle the ball. Best ball handler on the team. He will get wild – but his ball skills are still excellent. When he uses those ball skills under control to set up teammates, he becomes an excellent fit. Let Crawford do what Crawford does best.
What Crawford doesn’t do best is pick his own good shots. Phoenix game was an aberration in that regard – Crawford took an unusually high number of good shots (which meant his overall shots were much lower).
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Crawford
Stop all this criticism on our players…This is sick….Let Jamal Crawford leave the team and bring here better players such as Mills,Ridnour,Dragic,Blake or Cunningham,Outlaw etc….Are you serious some of you here?Crawford knows tons of basketball,i dont like that he takes crazy shots sometimes(i hope that he will reduce these shots) but he is a great offensive player,the only one that can create his own shot so easy…You watch this guy and you love basketball more and more…I hope that you saw the game against Suns and i hope that you saw how great our offense worked when he was focused to pass the ball to his teammates,i think it was one of his best games…OJ Mayo had an awful night vs Clippers,bad shots,low percentages etc…And soIsnt he a good player???Stop all this criticism…Stop putting all this pressure on the team…Jamal Crawford is just awesome,he needs to improve some parts of his game,but hi is just awesome…
Well, I hope Phoenix
is evidence of good things to come.
One thing is for sure. Jamal can dribble. And dribble and dribble and dribble. He certainly dribbles better than anyone on the team.
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(((o)))
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I think Crawford is a GREAT fit for this team, we need someone who is not afraid to shoot
We are SO lucky to get a player of his caliber for half price of what he was being offered this season
La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah
afraid to shoot
Being afraid to shoot is a good thing when you shoot 30 something percent.
well
He is also the guy that gets the ball with the shot clock winding down…
by andyisnumerouno on Jan 30, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe, but I'd rather have Felton.
Going back in time, I wish we drafted Faried. I wish we didn’t sign C.Johnson and spent Jamal’s $ on a better back up PG. I know that being negative isn’t helpful, but who cares? I really hope Jamal doesn’t care, because “true” fans have a right to say what ever they want.
by Kevlar Rocket on Jan 29, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
They should trade Felton to the Knicks for their pick
by Kaanyr Vhok on Jan 29, 2012 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I noticed that when I checked to see where their pick was
Yuck. I still think Sumpert is a steal so maybe the Knicks will rise late.
I agree with you that we should have drafted Faried
One of the things we needed at the time was a backup PF. Why didn’t we grab the all-time NCAA rebounding leader? I still don’t get it.
Oh wait, Nolan Smith is setting the league on fire, that’s why…
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
I said at the time it was a bad trade
unfortunately felton has been even worse than I thought he would be. hopefully as the season goes on, he will regress back towards his norms (in this case he would progress back to his norms). you would think that 1/4 of the way through the season he wouldn’t still be losing his dribble off of his sausage fingers and that he would be able to make a wide open shot. Say what you will about miller’s lack of a jumper, the guy could create shots for both himself and his teammates.
Miller > Felton + Jamal
by retirecards51 on Jan 30, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Miller got us to the playoffs....
and we were 1 and done each year. I wonder if some of you will change your tune over Felton and Crawford when we get to the 2nd round?
Agree
I hate all of this criticism…. No one really appreciates what he and ray have done for the team yet. Like you said, tunes will be changed come playoff time.
by andyisnumerouno on Jan 30, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
I would be happy if tthey deliver in the playoffs
There isnt a world beater in the west so I expect them to at least be competitive.
by Kaanyr Vhok on Jan 31, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
I believe it's nate's fault
He leaves Mathews and crawford to shoot out of there slumps which isn’t helping in a close game…. it seem that mathews and crawford decide to never be on on the same night and with felton never being on our back court is a joke… and it seems there moving batum to the 2 is interesting what is nate doing? i mean we are already stacked at that position with mathews crawford and williams…. i know nate wants to spread the players out but how is williams and smith suppose to get any real playing time if nate keeps moving players to different positions… i mean crawford has flat out said he’s not a point guard so why play him there? you got a good rookie who needs to develop i’d rather see him turn the ball over then crawford dribbling it off his foot… at least i know then it’s smith developing and crawford not just being a idiot… i hate nate’s no faith in rookie/ anything under 3 years in the league not playing minutes… It drives me nuts that when batum was on fire lastnight they didn’t run more plays for him after the third three crawford took over and garbaged it up
It drives me nuts that when batum was on fire lastnight they didn’t run more plays for him after the third three crawford took over and garbaged it up
Crawford didnt attempt a shot after that that was Felton in fact he was taken out of the game when we were up one a minute or so after Nics last three and then they went on a 8-0 run .
Crawford the last 5 games is shooting 45% the last 10 hes at 38% so hes coming out of his slump nicely but has too spend too much time with the ball picking up Feltons slack while still having his minutes limited.
Right now I have to believe that nate is basically protecting the egos of Felton and Wes because there is not any reason that they both should be playing so many minutes when Nic and Crawford are clearly playing better.
by Willie Beamon on Jan 31, 2012 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
you said it
you can’t expect to win when guys are shooting their way out of slumps.
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