Trade Drawer
by Kais on Jan 27, 2012 10:30 AM PST
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PrintThe blazers are getting Pretty desperate to make things work. what they need is a dose of consistency. Its getting pretty bad for them, and I think its a coaching problem, personally. But might as well post some trade right? just for fun.
how about This Trade
We're Desperate. the Knicks are desperate. Might as well.
Blazers get: Amare Stoudemire, Iman Shumpert
Knicks Get: Marcus Camby, Raymond Felton, Chris Johnson.
The trade works because the knicks get their point back, a throw in big guy, and a great rebounder which is what they are losing.
Blazers get an amazing beast to stand next to LMA every night, and a good point guard. That does seem to weaken us at guard, but weren't strong there to begin with.
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It might me an underwhelming trade but it helps us ad depth at a few key positions:
Portland Trades: Gerald Wallace, Nolan Smith, Chris Johnson and a 2012 2nd round pick for Hasheem Thabeet, Terrence Williams, Goran Dragic, Patrick Patterson and New Yorks 2012 1st round pick
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7p22fq7
Then our roster would look like:
PG: Raymond Felton – Goran Dragic
SG: Wesley Matthews – Jamal Crawford – Elliot Williams
SF: Nicolas Batum – Terrence Williams – Luke Babbitt
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge – Patrick Patterson – Craig Smith
C: Marcus Camby – Kurt Thomas – Hasheem Thabeet – Greg Oden
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
by gtbassett on Jan 27, 2012 10:49 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
hmmm...that's interesting
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting bad, interesting good or just underwhelming yet interesting?
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
underwhelming but certainly need-addressing and not unrealistic on the surface
Nic gets his SF job, we get frontcourt depth in Thabeet and Patterson, we get a reliable PG in Dragic. They get decent return in Crash (mainly), a PG prospect that can replace Dragic behind Lowry, and CJ.
I’m curious to see what other people think. I’m just glad it wasn’t a silly trade proposal.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, Houston's starting lineup would be pretty good and well balanced.
With Lowry, Martin, Wallace, Scola and Dalembert, they have plenty of scoring with Lowry, Martin and Scola and Wallace and Dalembert really help their defense and rebounding.
I’m also curious to see what people think, I try to make realistic trade proposals that make sense for all parties involved.
Plus, for some reason I still believe that if put into the right culture and fit, T-Will could possibly turn it around and utilize all that damn talent he actually has but is wasting at the moment. A team full of stand-up consumate pros like Camby, Aldridge, and Wesley could possibly really help him mature as a person and a player.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
that is a nice starting 5 they'd have
and I do feel like they are trying to add pieces. We get to take flyers on Dragic, Williams, and Patterson, get a 1st rnd pick, and get one of the bigger stiffs out there.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Mfw when you dont realize
Nash turns the ball over more than felton in evertgame.
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by Blaze_that_trail on Jan 27, 2012 12:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Oh darn.
Thats for the guy below this:P
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by Blaze_that_trail on Jan 27, 2012 12:21 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Actually I would agree this is a decent trade.
But I dont value dragic at all. Terrible pg. but someone should post this trade idea over on the rockets sb nation blog and link it here
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by Blaze_that_trail on Jan 27, 2012 12:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
At first glance I thought this was a terrible trade for us.
Second glance, it began to look really good for us. hmm.
sorry, I like the realistic approach, but horrible for us.
we lose our energy guy in Wallace, while receiving a career backup PG in Dragic, a guy who can’t play basketball in Thabeet, and a couple others.
if we’re to trade Wallace, then we need to get either a very capable PG or a very capable Center.
Not career backups for a starting small forward.
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 28, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I like this trade
Portland Trades: GW, Camby, N.Smith, Ray Turnover, Wesley Matthews
Phoenix Trades: Nash, Childres, Lopez
NY Trades: Amare
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7fwbhke
PG: Nash, Williams
SG: J-Cross over, Williams
SF: Nicolas Batum, Babbitt
PF: Amare Studamire, Kurt Thomas, Rhino
C: Lamarcus Aldridge , Robin Lopez
oof
Elliot Williams backing up both guard spots?
Babbitt getting real minutes?
Aldridge playing center most of the time?
M, period. Fresh, comma.
I'd assume...
that one of those “williams” is Elliot.
so rediculous
are these serious trades? not a chance phoenix does that.
Actually I would bet they would
If they are serious about finally rebuilding. Steve Nash and Lopez will be gone through free agency and Childress has a terrible contract for his production. A talented young PG and SG to add next to Gortat and Morris as building blocks is far from the worst move they could do.
by philthebballplayer on Jan 27, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
he has a horrible contract.
it’s uninsured and we’re seeing signs of injuries beginning to catch up with him. Why don’t we get someone who still has a great future in this league instead of what is about to become one of the worst contracts in the league?
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
by YoniRap on Jan 28, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you
NY would have to give us three unprotected number 1s to consider taking his bloated uninsured contract
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Knicks wouldn't do that deal in a million years
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Why not
They would get 21Million dollars in expiring contracts, then they could sign DH12 or Deron Williams you have too look at the big picture
by BestBlazerFan on Jan 27, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
the big picture is they would never give up Amare and Shumpert
for Felton (worst year of his career), Camby (just an EC), and CJ (barely not a D-Leaguer).
For Amare Stoudemire and Iman Shumpert?? There is absolutely no way. It’s absolutely laughable.
The notion that this trade could ever go through is a perfect example of why Blazer fans have a reputation for overvaluing their players.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
???????? What are you talking about??????????????
by BestBlazerFan on Jan 27, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
wouldn't happen in a million years
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
that trade is a joke right?
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
If you know so much about Lagit Trades show me one
Come on all you do is talk show me a trade that can happen because obviously we need to get something done we suck.
by BestBlazerFan on Jan 27, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
the first comment in this thread is a legit proposal
but come on man, give me a break here. You expect the Knicks to give up Amare and the Suns to give up Nash while we give up what?
All I’m saying is try to look at it from the other team’s perspective. Trades are hard, that’s why their rare…they need to make sense for both teams and not just benefit us while we rob other teams of their top tier talent.
You want Amare? You’re gonna trade Lamarcus. That’s they way it is.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
*they're rare
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
*the way it is
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Nash will not be a Sun by the end of this season
so im just throwing ideas out there, who is going to give the suns a lot for Nash he only has 2 good years including this one
by BestBlazerFan on Jan 27, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I understand
and I’m not trying to rain on your parade…but any trades that involve us getting Amare without giving up Lamarcus are probably unrealistic. The one in the OP is absurdly lobsided. Nash is much more attainable though.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
I also disagree that we suck
this stuff isn’t easy. We’re off to a better start than last year and I still consider us a playoff team.
You can’t just flip a switch and go from good to title contender (unless Oden comes back). You don’t get something for nothing. You give value to get value.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
We are a playoff team
But we suck if you cant win the road you got a problem
by BestBlazerFan on Jan 27, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
agreed
so we better start…but there is no quick fix
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
there are no differance making players we can get right now
that’s the bottom line. so continue your fantasy trades
I Like this trade
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7e5yy5j
Dallas: They need to trade their bad contracts for 2012 F/A class, if they get wallace’s expiring contract and give away two bad contracts they can sign DW12 and Deron Williams
LA: They get a back up Center to mentor Jordan, and Griffen.
Williams, Felton
Matthews, Crawford
Batum, Marion
Aldridge, Rhino
Haywood, Priz, Thomas
Dallas doesn't do this
They’re not getting any younger with Wallace, and why give up two serviceable pieces for one piece who won’t push you over the top?
Mo Williams for Camby… naw.
M, period. Fresh, comma.
Actually, they get quite a bit younger with Wallace
Not only is Crash younger than both Marion and Haywood, but it would also mean giving Ian Mahinmi more minutes. Plus, they do really want to move Marion, and they’ll most likely amnesty Haywood if there’s no trade market.
I just don’t think that’s a good move for Portland.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
The Knicks wouldn't even think about that trade...
In fact, our “GM” would be too embarrassed to even send that trade, considering it would be the most lopsided trade ever sent, EVER.
I do like the prospects of trading Wallace/Felton, mostly Wallace for picks or a quality PG like Mike Conley (though vastly overpaid.)
Batum Shakalaka
Conley is not quality. he had a good season last year, and now he's paid out the ying-yang
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Jan 28, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
Can we rec this fanpost just so we have one trade drawer for a while?
It doesn’t make sense to constantly clog the sidebar with new trade discussion threads every couple days bumping out more different topics of conversation.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
just did
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7y2e37z
why Orlando does it: so they can get a super awesome PG from Portland and an excellent vet in Camby
why OKC does it: Cause they could use a Crash at the 4 and they need some hustle.
Why Sacramento does it: why not? a white guy for a white guy seems like an even deal.
why Portland does it: I know trading for Dwight is a risk cause he might not sign and it is giving up a lot but it is worth it. Harden could back up Wes$ and Smith and Westbrook could battle for starting PG. Luke is coming out of his shell after the big Chalupa shot but I like Jimmer too.
Portlands lineup
PG: Smith, Westbrook, Jimmer
SG: Wes$, Harden, Jimmer
SF: Batum, no need to back up Batum
PF: Aldridge, Rhino
C: Howard, K Thomas
by Escrote on Jan 27, 2012 11:59 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Can Westbrook be traded so soon after he signed his extension?
I’m not sure that’s allowed in the CBA. Looks good otherwise.
Thunderer.
of course it looks good for us
but it would never ever ever ever happen because it’s a terrible deal for Orlando and OKC
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'm afraid the list of reasons Orlando and OKC wouldn't do it is far longer than why they would
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
If Orlando let Dwight walk they wold get nothing in return. Plus with OKC Westbrook and Durant might fight this would send a message to the league that it is Durants team.
You can't seriously be trying to convince me this is something they'd consider
Orlando: Gives up Dwight Howard for Camby and Felton.
OKC: Gives up Westbrook and Harden for Wallace
I don’t know which team gets screwed more, but they both get screwed royally, and that’s an understatement. Even Sacramento gets screwed.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sacramento probably wouldn't even notice a trade had happened.
All those white guys look the same.
OKC is not going to give away both westbrook and harden
the most I see them doing is moving harden out for a nearly elite big man, since harden has a lot of value and their frontcourt is struggling offensively.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
Fire up the buch-cannon
| 23.1 | .647 | .605 | 15.6 | 28.3 | 21.9 | 6.7 | 0.9 | 7.7 | 17.8 | 20.7 | 118 | 100 | 1.3 | 1.0 | 2.2 | .214 |
BYOO BYOO BYOO BYOO
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
I love that you want to trade for Westbrook then start Nolan Smith over him.
That gave me a chuckle.
Why not D. Rose instead of Westbrook?
Also, while I like the rest of it, you don’t give up someone like Babbitt unless it’s for a star. Something like the Chris Paul package (minus expiring contracts). Fredette doesn’t get it done.
Is this a joke?
We give up crash and recieve howard, westbrook, harden , and fredette?
thats what you are saying
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GM of the CENTURY....is what you'd be if you could con the others into participating!
You my friend, are hired!
LaMarshmallow - Distant Memory.
by mlsinpdx on Jan 29, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
come back to reality where
all-stars aren’t given away for d-leagers
by skott75 on Jan 27, 2012 12:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Tell that to Charlotte
and MJ. Then again… good teams who think they’re up for a possible title don’t ever trade even quasi-stars
by avalancheman on Jan 27, 2012 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
At this point
No way the Spurs trade TP. He is the glue holding that team together, especially with Ginobili out & this year he has looked as good as he ever has in terms of being a pure point guard.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
without diving in too deep
all 5 of these are far more realistic than the trade in the OP
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
I've liked this trade for a while
Though if we are going to take that 20 mil of their hands, I think we can keep Wes.
by Batumshakalaka on Jan 27, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
PG upgrade (not a Nash trade this time)
I’ve coveted Mike Conely Jr. for the last couple seasons, and here’s a trade I could see Memphis biting on…
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6006036
Portland sends out Felton and Matthews.
Memphis sends out Conely Jr. and Mayonnaise.
Leaving Portland with this guard rotation…
PG: Conely Jr., N. Smith, Crawford
SG: Crawford, Mayonnaise, Williams
Gonna miss Matthews’ defense, and I am not an Orange Juice Mayonnaise fan, but it’s worth it for what Conely Jr. brings. Memphis does this because their real talent reservoir is in their bigs; a lackluster PG like Felton isn’t going to mess with their mojo much, and the cap relief he’ll provide this summer will allow them to pursue more affordable options at PG.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
I'd do it
but I think the optimal time frame for getting OJ Mayo has passed. His value has gone back up
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Plus having Greg's best buddy on the team certainly helps our chances he re-signs here.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
YES YES. I like Conley and Mayo as well.
Batum Shakalaka
Matthews is a downgrade from Mayo?
Their numbers are remarkably similar, but Matthews is the better shooter and from the eye test appears to be a better defender. Their contracts are a pretty close match too, except Mayo expires this summer while Matthews still has three more years after this.
Through the exchange Memphis gets a return on a player they probably couldn’t afford to extend. Something of a lateral, but a certainly better than watching their lottery pick walk out the door for nothing.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Jan 27, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
i speak mainly of conley who is having a great year
but i think all around mayo is a better player also. bottom line it would never happen. they love conley.
Would you trade a Fat Turnover for Fat Lever?
LaMarshmallow - Distant Memory.
why should we have to get stuck with that absurd contract?
I know its PAs money, but that basically makes it so we cant sign Greg or Batum
did you factor that in?
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Did you factor in
Oden will never play another game as a Blazer 82 games in 5 years, he does’nt deserve more money. He is a waste of time and space in Portland. But im a miracle beliver, and he can come back and be a potential HOF
by BestBlazerFan on Jan 29, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
I didnt factor that in
I am still drunk off the Greg Koolaid
okay?
I said it
La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah
this one helps out all the teams but Bonner might be a deal breaker
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7rlx48h
Blazers Get: Bonner, Danny Green, Korver, C.J watson
Spurs Get: WES, C.J, 2 second round picks
Bulls Get: Felton, Babbitt, Neal
Line up
PG: CJ Watson, Nolan Smith
SG:Nico Batum, J Crawford/ Danny Green
SF: Gerald Wallace, Danny Green/ Nico Batum
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge, Craig Smith,Bonner
C: Marcus Camby, Kurt thomas, Bonner
by Daddygr33nJeans on Jan 27, 2012 1:00 PM PST reply actions
Arent trade drawers fun!?
ITS ALL PURE SPECULATION! I like to speculate on trades myself, and I believe we need something to happen to make this team better. Alas, The options are few and the chances slim, but trades do happen, even ones that are completely absurd. The ONE fact that must be faced is that the trade that does happen will be one we never expect, it will come out of left field and shoot a hail mary 3 for a homerun right in your goalies eye! Sorta like when we got Wallace for broke down Przy and Dante, yep I saw that one 10 miles away and did 4 posts on it b4 it happened—-yaaa suuuurrre ya did.
I vote trade for a center first and foremost and even though Ray stinks to high heaven, keep him until we get a chance at something better. What center we should go after—Varejao, Hibbert, or go for the gusto D12. As for pgs, at this point there are atleast 25 other pgs playing better all than Ray, if you can land anyone of those, so much the better!
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 27, 2012 1:05 PM PST reply actions
there never going to happen but
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=79tqv59 throw the pacers a 1st round pick
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=79jaevq throw the cavs a 1st round pick
by Daddygr33nJeans on Jan 27, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
Javale McGee looks like a good prospect
lots of potential, slightly boneheaded but mainly that’s just a product of his environment in D.C. surrounded by ballhogs. camby and thomas could mentor him, and at this point the Wizards might just throw the baby out with the bathwater in order to change the culture of their team.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
We might need to
give Indiana Wallace to get Hibbert, or wait and try to get him during FA,
by xl Boondock lx on Jan 29, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Ok. Lakers are the key team to use for a three way
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7afhhg2
As built now this team is not going anywhere. But by giving up gasol, they can make one more push with Kobe. Sac sucks, Gasol makes them a much tougher experienced team. So we would end up with a line up of
Tyk Evans
Matthews
Batum
Aldridge
Hickson
Now Gasol could be used to grab someone else as well for us, but I think the Lakers would be very interested in the package of Felton, Wallace, Camby for Gasol. It would allow them one more shot at a title. Gasol does have enough to bring back quality in return.
Tyreke Evans
is a Point guard only in name. Though we don’t have a lead guard so he would be a lot better to lean on then say Raymond Felton going forward.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
Why would we want to get screwed like that?
Evans is fools gold
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Rondo
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7op2oyy
get rondo, take the pierce contract give them wallace, mathews felton they can have batum too if they want him
works w batum also
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=736dv7h
maybe they can flip wallace for the 4 picks and start over.
I think cambys been consistent on the boards...
22-16-20….. And on regular nights…. An easy 10 boards.
by Hoi on Jan 27, 2012 10:20 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Seeing a good night from Williams makes me feel better about this trade.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=78hpmzj
Portland sends out Camby, Matthews and Felton for Okafor and Nash
Phoenix scores Felton and Matthews, and Camby goes to New Orleans. PHO gets return on Nash, NOH gains flexibility, and PDX answers their two most pressing concerns, leaving this 9 man rotation for the playoffs…
PG: Nash, Crawford
SG: Crawford, Williams
SF: Wallace, Batum
PF: Aldridge, Smith
C: Okafor, Thomas
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
love this trade for us
NO does well, PHO not so much
"Say his NAME, Portland. Gerald Wallace is...awesome." -Dave, 4/9/11
Losing Nash would hurt, but they'd get flexibilty and young talent in return.
Their offense would take a big dip, but they get a huge upgrade defensively. Also, you can’t put a price on years, and Matthews has plenty left.
The reality in PHO is that they need a change. Revolution might be more appropriate. This summer, Nash and Hill both expire, along with Redd, Lopez, Brown and Price, freeing up about 25 million. With that dough, they can find some stars to put Mar(nose) Gortat and Jared Dudly next to. By picking up Matthews for Nash, that puts stability at another position while leaving about 19 million to play with. Coming into 2012-13, their roster might look something like…
PG: ______ , ______
SG: Matthews, Telfair
SF: Dudley, Childress
PF: Frye, Morris
C: Gortat, ______
With 19 million, they can easily pick up a star PG (Deron Williams, Chris Paul) and a backup C (Omer Asik, Ian Mahinmi) in free agency. With any luck, they can find a backup PG in the draft. If I were them I’d also target a decent PF (Brandon Bass, Kevin Garnett) and bring Frye off the bench. With those moves, they’re pretty dangerous again.
Doers & Makers > Movers & Shakers
by Adam Randall on Jan 28, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Nash and Gortat
Like our Camby-Wallace deals of the past couple years, we take advantage of the other team’s situation for a good deal.
We take on Childress’s bad deal, throw some sweeteners and expiring contracts in, and pick up Nash and Gortat. Nash is leaving after the season so should trade him. Gortat will be difficult to acquire, but contrary to popular belief, he is not a young center (by NBA standards).
Might sound unrealistic, but not much more than the Camby and Wallace trades. Sarver has been known to be stingy.
We've got to consider our roster and players of value
The Blazers have 6-7 guys who could start any night on any roster
1. LA
2. Crash
3. We$ – weird to see him in that spot but
4. Batum
5. Crawford
6. Felton
7. Camby – this even seems like a stretch
our other pieces are all fanboy favorites who won’t pull water anywhere else but can still contribute a little
1. Rhino
2. Kurt Thomas
3-7. Guys who are or should still be considered rookies with not enough PT for other GM’s to properly speculate on
Now looking at that and considering the strong teams around the league you can see we aren’t far off… we’ve got a potentially 9 man rotation without playing youth. What we need to look for in a trade is how to turn 1-3 solid players into 2-4. Look at Denver – they gave up Melo, Billups, and loose change for Chandler, Galinari, Mozgov, and our own Fat Lever. Thats 4 players who can contribute at any time for 1 and 1/2. Who won that trade? The team who is now playing 9 deep.
Trades where we give up our entire wing corps in exchange for Paul Pierce and Rajon Rondo sound great, but we’re still playing 7 or 8 men. Not gonna hold up sorry.
There are a number of teams on which Jamal Crawford would never start
And only a few on which Ray Felton is a starter, and a couple of them have already let him go. Portland, Miami, NYK, LAL, Sacto, Charlotte (maybe, I could see him playing behind Augustin).
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Can we get a redooooooooooooo
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7hbms8f
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
denver says no way
unless andre makes enough of a ruckus, but he’s a pro and he’ll probably just deal with it and then get a starting job elsewhere after the season’s over.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
PGOTF!!!
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=853pfg4
Golden State gets rid of Biedrin’s bad contract while acquiring some pieces, namely Batum. We could throw some minor sweeteners in too (2nd rounders, Eurostash, PAM). Gives them the flexibility to pursue Dwight, or another young C if that doesn’t work out.
I badly want to see Curry in a Blazers’ uniform, and am willing to risk the bad ankle.
I'd do it, but rather trade Wallace than Batum.
Batum Shakalaka
Is Seth Curry any good?
He could be a steal considering he isn’t projected in the 1st rd. right now + he is the brother of Steph, son of Dell and possess a sweet stroke.
Batum Shakalaka
Why we shouldn't trade for Bogut:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/218619/Bogut_Out_8_12_Weeks_With_Injured_Left_Ankle
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
dude just can't get any luck.
it’s a shame
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
Teach me how to Jimmer?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7m34s66 :p
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
Thanks Abu
I feel the same way about The Jimmer as I feel about Tebow. Though they may never be the best at their position, if you put the right pieces around them they have the skills to put together a hot stretch & win a championship. Not to mention both being extremely clutch as well, though Fredette has yet to prove it on a professional level.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
Since this is the "Most Absurd Trade Drawer Ever" why not?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=749eztr
Reason we do it= we win alot of games
Reason they do it= for the same reason that they would do any of the other unrealistic trades on this page
La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah
No way the Bucks let go of Jennings
with his astronomical leap in efficiency this year.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
Would It work
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7bln59w
PG: Felton, Smith
SG: Ellis, Crawford, Williams
SF: Batum, Rhino
PF: Aldridge, , Thomas
C: Camby, Biedrins, Priz
I'll have to say no to Ellis.
Ballhog chucker. I’m happy we have someone who accepts that role in Crawford, but we don’t need several like that.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
Ball Hog ???
7.1 assist per game this season, as a SG
by BestBlazerFan on Jan 28, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
I like our chances
Williams, Williams
Ellis, Matthews
Batum, Wright
Aldridge, Rhino
Camby, Thomas, Priz, Oden???
by BestBlazerFan on Jan 28, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
While his assists are up
and I commend Mark Jackson for that, keep in mind he also is turning it over nearly 4 times per game as well. Have to take that into consideration when looking at assist numbers.
Also, his shooting #’s are way down this year. 41% from the field, 24% from 3. Yet he still shoots it 20 times a game!
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
This really does make sense for all teams on some level.
Blazers: Wallace and Felton might be leaving after this year anyway, why not get some value in return? Matthews can return to the bench, get three point help as well in Mo Williams and Dorell Wright.
Clippers: team wants to get some front court help, while also getting rid of misfit Mo Williams. Felton is used to give Clippers flexibility since his contract expires.
Warriors: Golden State has been shopping Ellis for a while. The coach is high on Klay Thompson to pave the way. Warriors get a possible upgrade in Gerald Wallace while gaining salary cap flexibility. The only problem they may have is weakening their front court, in that case we may give up Chris Johnson instead of Nolan Smith.
Nyk are vulnerable because they
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7jo8yzv
Are terrible with two stars. This trade might be enough to pull curry for us. It works for all teams. NYk also get lots of flex next year for their big fa push while probably making the playoffs. They are a run first team again, With Felton Wallace. We get a lineup of
Curry
Matthews
Batum
Aldridge
Camby
Young team with a perfect in out game for curry and Aldridge. Batum and matthews could cover for currys poor defense. Plus curry and Matthews are best friends this adds to a team dynamic. I would love this team.
Gs get stoutEmire and a young pg, they become a playoff team with a formidable center and PF combo and dynamic SG/pg and some young pg help.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6sgjufq
Okafor is a solid center; we give up a solid forward and some potential building blocks. NO will do it for the cap space; we’ll do it for a starting 5 (and let Camby be the back-up 5 or 4).
Okay I know Bogut is injured... again.
but here’s my proposal… get Wallace to NJN for draft picks then flip them plus young guys for Bogut. With Wallace and D Will, would Howard really want to sign elsewhere? Meanwhile Bucks get young all over again, get good draft prospects and cap room a year from now.
Besides, it'd make the nets VERY watchable
Howard rebounds, pass outlet to D Will, who flips it up to Wallace on the break for a slam… ALL DAY LONG.
by avalancheman on Jan 29, 2012 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
Again
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=792bx3c
Using the lakers, they are desperate to give Kobe a last push. Sending them Felton, Wallace and camby for gasol. Then move gasol to minn. for Williams, Ridnour, Beasley. Gasol And Rubio want to play together. This instantly makes minn a playoff team. Lal flesh out the line up with a sf in prime, a pg who can distribute and run, and a rebounding machine next to Bynum. They get back on track this year and free up cap space for fa next year. We get a high end prospect sf scorer, a quality pg to tide us over a back up sf/PF who could turn it around and world peace. We then can use batum to get a pgtf and groom behind Ridnour.
Ridnour
Matthews
Batum
Williams
Aldridge
Or
Ridnour batum trade for pgtf
Matthews
Williams
Aldridge
Batum trade for center or wait on oden
only if we can send out beasley immediately to some other fool team.
I never want to see him in a blazer jersey. maybe some team will think he actually has value because he can score a lot and would give us something for him.
"Wide, girthy. Just like a Rhino. Sometimes my horns are visible."
i dont know why everyone wants to get rid of multiple pieces
we should strive for trades that create depth not sap them – I reckon LA, Crash, Wes, and Crawford are our new core – Batum has huge value for his contract, we package him with Camby and we could get some legiiiiit players man – any serviceable center who’s better than say Kendrick Perkins. Like Brook Lopez … the Net’s feel the same way about him as we feel about Batum – which is crazy cause he is a proven commodity and Batum’s kind of speculatatory but hell, we could probably get him without throwing Camby in the mix – orrrrr we could even make David Stern’s wet dream and facilitate the Dwight Howard trade
with this gem -
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=76tb7mq
Felton, Farmar
Matthews, Crawford
Wallace
Aldridge, Rhino
Lopez, Kurt Thomas
People PLEASE layout the trades in the comments so others can see them
Some people cant access the trade machine from their computers. It gets a little annoying when people are posting such interesting trades but I cant see them.
This solves a few issues:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6qd92os
Bulls get Dwight Howard
Magic get Boozer, Camby, Wallace, and either E.Williams and/or Babbitt
Blazers get R. Anderson, Turkoglu, and Asik
(Throw around a couple draft picks if necessary)
Bulls get their second star and we don’t have to listen to D12 rumors
Magic
-still compete
-get $20 million in expiring (or they keep Crash)
-acquire young pieces/picks (maybe Taj Gibson or N.Smith gets thrown in)
Blazers
-solve the logjam at SF (resign Batum, Turk can come off the bench)
-get some good young frontcourt players so we don’t have to rely on glass centers
-Babbitt and Williams no longer rot on the bench
-Problem is, we still have to watch Crawford and Felton
Like it if....
Portland also aquires Ammen from Boston (for Crawford and some change). Turn the rookie loose at point guard and bring Elliott off the bench to back him up if necessary.
by Oregon boys Fan on Jan 30, 2012 3:24 PM PST reply actions
I like this trade
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6n58tzj
Harris is a step sideways from Felton, but could be a better fit. At the very least Harris is hitting better than 30% of his threes this year.
Kanter is the real target in the trade. He would give the Blazers, rebounds, picks, and size all at an affordable price.
The fans over at SLCdunk.com don’t think the Blazers would go for it.
I'd do it.
The smarter you are, the more likely you are to be tripping balls at any given moment.
/keep Batum/ /trade for Bogut/
Oh.
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