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Do YOU know much about these players?

Every now and then I'll wander over to another team's SB Nation blog to read their game preview. Last week I was over on Peachtree Hoops reading about the Atlanta Hawks. They mentioned Willie Green as a solid pickup for them in the offseason. As a fan of the NBA in general, I was surprised to hear of a player being referred to as a "solid free agent pickup" when I knew next to nothing about him. Off to ESPN.com I went to do a little research! What I found prompted me to spend some time compiling the list you see below. Here's how it works.

I reviewed the rosters of every single team in the NBA. If I didn't recognize a name or knew little about him, I documented his team, salary and years of experience. The results were very interesting. There are dozens and dozens of players (not just rookies & sophmores) who I'm unfamiliar with. Discuss the guys below. Should I know more about these players or do you agree that they've been bad enough over the last few years to warrant completely overlooking them?

Note: To make the list as relevant (and short) as possible I purposely left out rookies & sophmores. I forgive myself for not knowing who some of those guys are. I only included players with two years of experience or more. Also note that blank cells for certain teams (like the Celtics) simply means they don't have anyone on their roster who I don't know with two or more seasons of NBA experience.

Enjoy!

Team Player 2011-2012 Salary Years
Hawks Jannero Pargo $854,389 7
Celtics
Bobcats Matt Carroll $3,900,000 8
Gerald Henderson $2,250,600 2
Byron Mullens $1,288,200 2
Bulls Mike James N/A 9
John Lucas $915,852 3
Cavaliers Alonzo Gee $854,389 2
Mavericks Ian Mahinmi $915,852 3
Sean Williams $885,120 3
Brandan Wright $915,852 3
Nuggets DeMarre Carroll $854,389 2
Kosta Koufos $2,203,792 3
Pistons Austin Daye $1,929,600 2
Damien Wilkins $854,389 7
Warriors Dominic McGuire $854,389 4
Rockets
Pacers A.J. Price $854,389 2
Clippers Solomon Jones $792,377 5
Lakers
Grizzlies Josh Davis $854,389 3
Hamed Haddadi $1,300,000 3
Sam Young $947,800 2
Heat
Bucks
Timberwolves
Nets Sundiata Gaines $854,389 2
Johan Petro $3,250,000 6
Shawne Williams $3,000,000 4
Shelden Williams $854,389 5
Hornets Trey Johnson $854,389 2
Knicks Renaldo Balkman $1,675,000 5
Toney Douglas $1,145,640 2
Jared Jeffries $854,389 9
Steve Novak $854,389 5
Bill Walker $885,120 3
Thunder Royal Ivey $1,200,000 7
Magic Earl Clark $1,160,000 2
76ers
Suns Ronnie Price $854,389 6
Kings
Spurs Daniel Green $854,389 2
Raptors Aaron Gray $2,500,000 4
Jazz
Wizards Nick Young $3,695,857 4

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Nick Young

is the wizards starting hucker, just shoots a ton

The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!

by tylercomp on Jan 26, 2012 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

Pargo...

Makes Crawfords shot selection look like gold

by hoodieNation on Jan 26, 2012 2:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

His kid bro's a stud, though

And I say that as Zags hater.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 26, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

He has his moments

He was big as CP3’s backup when the Hornets made the 2nd round a few years back before going to Russia.

by Royster on Jan 26, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone know anything about Matt Carroll

stats don’t match the salary

The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!

by tylercomp on Jan 26, 2012 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

Carroll had a couple semi-passable years in Charlotte shooting threes

got overpaid and was immediately part of a mutual salary dump with Desagna Diop and the Mavs. Ironically ended up as salary filler back to Charlotte in the Chandler deal. Except for those two years, he’s been a scrub his entire career.

by Royster on Jan 26, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Sundiata Gaines

is the D-League callup who hit a Jazz game winner in his first NBA game. I think it was an important game too.

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by JuwanMVPHoward on Jan 26, 2012 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

Cleveland, back in the LeBron days

and late in the season, where playoff seeding was somewhat at stake.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 26, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Royal Ivey

That would be an awesome name if it didn’t make me think it was a brand of fabric softener.

In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice they're not.

by conspirator5 on Jan 26, 2012 2:41 PM PST reply actions  

Ivey as a fabric softener?

I’m breaking out in a rash, at the thought of it…

by manfredi on Jan 26, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Wright was a raw, high upside lottery pick big man drafted by the Warriors with a pick they got by trading Jason Richardson. He was productive in limited minutes but Don Nelson never seemed to want to play him for reasons unknown. Then he got hurt. Looks like he’s done some nice things in limited run for the Mavs.

Austin Daye was a #15 pick out of Gonzaga headed into bust territory.

Byron Mullens was an incredibly raw (read: terrible) project big OKC let go for very little who has confusingly started quite well for Charlotte, though he’s starting to predictably slip.

Josh Davis is from Salem and played for the Blazers in summer league once or twice.

Danny Green was on the title winning UNC team with Hansbrough and Lawson. Sat on the bench with Cleveland for a while, now is doing well in the Spurs rotation.

Steve Novak is a 6’10’’one skill shooter.

by jksnake99 on Jan 26, 2012 3:02 PM PST reply actions  

I forgot Austin Daye went 15th.

I thought he went in the mid-20s.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 27, 2012 4:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Guys that you should have definitely heard of...

Nick Young, Toney Douglas, Ian Mahinmi, Gerald Henderson.

Most others I’ve heard of, but don’t know much about either.

Batum Shakalaka

by WesMoneyy on Jan 26, 2012 3:53 PM PST reply actions  

Gee has had a pretty decent season

He went undrafted I believe out of one of the Arizona schools? check me there though. Seems to be athletic and agile for his size but pretty raw IQ wise.

by AR-15 on Jan 26, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Alonzo Gee played for Alabama.

by jksnake99 on Jan 26, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahh

I’ll make myself feel good by saying it was an A school. Haha.

by AR-15 on Jan 27, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You forgot dante cunningham

On the grizzlies. I think hes in his third year

Formally known as: My_name_a_rudy

by Blaze_that_trail on Jan 26, 2012 3:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

You never heard of him?

As in, you didn’t know he played for us the last two years?

#7

by clinchmobb on Jan 26, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahmed Haddadi

is the first Iranian NBA player. Kind of scary looking, true 7-footer, a bit of a stiff, but plays pretty hard and is not afraid to stick his nose into the action.

I like him being in the NBA, if only for that whole basketball-without-borders bridging nations thing. Would also love to see a Native American NBA player, and more players from exotic locales. Oh, and a woman , of course :)

by Saba on Jan 26, 2012 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

This is awesome.

"It feels good to give the fans Taco Bell."
- Luke Babbitt, 1/23/2012

by halo_on on Jan 26, 2012 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaah nice

the BJ Mullens one is great. they’re all great. rec

by Jpar on Jan 26, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

This made my night!

Beautiful insight
You know the Blazers have a GM opening
I think you are the “New Blood” we are seeking!

La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah

by AbuFatimah on Jan 26, 2012 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

enough of the GM stuff, please

yes, they have an opening, & no, you can’t be the GM.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by thankyouforblaze on Jan 26, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

BlahBlahBlahBlahBlah

good job deputy!

La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah

by AbuFatimah on Jan 27, 2012 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

....pretty sure

he was extremely serious when he posted that.

by AR-15 on Jan 27, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I rec'd

yet, this quote “insight” is a doozy:

jordan is fat and has a hitler mustache.

lol. Classy.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by thankyouforblaze on Jan 26, 2012 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yours is more accurate. so big props for that.

Koufos is American, he went to Ohio state after Oden, and before BJ.

I’m pretty sure Aaron Gray went to Purdue, but you know what, that’s the kind of thing that it’s not even worth googling.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Jan 27, 2012 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

oh wow

that is delightful

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I watch a lot of league pass.

Pargo- short combo guard, used to back up CP3, spent some time internationally, I think China? His brother’s a backup point guard for the Grizz.

Carroll – White guy, standstill jumpshooter. Been with the Cats for a while, not a bad 12th man but not much more than that.

Henderson – son of Gerald Henderson senior, who was a journeyman SG or SF. Dukie. Came in as kind of a wing defender type prospect, he’s looked sort of marginally capable of playing that role, but I’m not sure he sticks in the league.

BJ Mullens – played at Ohio State. Face up jumpshooting big 7 footer, not very athletic or powerful. Has sort of a soft reputation. Was drafted as a low first round project by OKC, had been sitting on their bench for a few years before they traded him to the Cats for a second rounder this season. Looks like he can carve out a role as a bench big man who comes in and shoots a few jumpers. I’d start Biyombo ahead of him.

Mike James – Journeyman, been in and out of the league forever. I don’t think he’s ever had a starting role, or even a role in the top 8 or 9 man rotation other than in injury situations.

John Lucas – Son of John Lucas, sort of a combo point guard I think. Won’t stick.

Alonzo Gee – Undrafted free agent, I think a d-league or summer league callup. Limited skills but very athletic wing for Cleveland, this is his second year and he gets inconsistent minutes.

Mahinmi – Talented but very foul-prone big man out of France. Been in the league for a few years, slowly developing. If I were Carlisle, I’d start him and play him for as long as he can before he fouls out.

Sean Williams – Very athletic and talented PF, but a huge headcase and major major character issues. Does stupid crap on the court and very illegal crap off the court. I think this is his third team, he spent some time out of the league—I was actually pretty surprised to see his name on a roster this season.

Brandan Wright – Kind of a beanpole SF/PF tweener, lottery pick. Athletic, very prone to injury. Was traded by the Bobcats to GSW for Jason Richardson. Didn’t really work out for either team.

DeMarre Carroll – I don’t know anything about him.

Kosta Koufos – Despite the foreign sounding name, I believe he’s American. Big guy, seems like a stiff but I haven’t seen him play enough minutes to be sure.

Austin Daye – Very skinny and long SF. The hope was that he was a younger Tayshaun, but he plays no defense and looks both slow and weak to me. Has a nice stroke on the mid-range jumper but that’s about it.

Damien Wilkens – Been around forever. Son of gerald, nephew of Dominique. Doesn’t have anything like either’s game. Looks a lot like them though.

Dominic McGuire – I don’t know anything about himi.

AJ Price – Not a bad third point guard. He’s been with Indy for a couple of years now I think.

Solomon Jones – No idea.

Josh Davis – No idea.

Hamed Haddadi – The Iranian. Big lumbering center – 7’2 I think. Had green card issues this year, so he’s just rejoining the team this week.

Sam Young – Pretty poor swingman. Was trying to carve out a role as a defensive ace, but unfortunately is too limited defensively to really make that work.

Sundiata Gaines – No idea

Johan Petro – Oh, yeah, project center. Was drafted by the Sonics, during their stretch of drafting the rawest, most uncoordinated 7 footers they could find.

Shawne Williams – Played for the Knicks last year as a smallball 4. Was kind of respectable doing that. Has been a disaster as a 3 for the Nets. So basically Travis Outlaw lite.

Shelden Williams – The Landlord. Was drafted by the Hawks #4? #5? Pretty sure he’s the highest pick on this list. Undersized, unathletic PF, who was probably super overrated because he was a dukie. It would actually be interesting to see how often Dukies fail to justify their draft position. He’s married to Candace Parker, so their kids are going to be amazing ballers, if they take after their mom.

Trey Johnson – No idea

Renaldo Balkman – Was Isiah’s last draft pick before being ridden out of a rail. I like him, actually. Very high energy hustle guy, gets rebounds, tips passes, dives for loose balls. Not sure why coaches keep on not playing him.

Toney Douglas – Short 2 guard. The Knicks tried to make him a point guard, that failed miserably. It’s bad when the Garden starts chanting for some low first round rookie because you’re stinking up the joint so bad.

Jared Jeffries – um, glue guy swingman. I think he’s kind of decent?

Steve Novak – Painfully slow PF, specializes in 3 point shooting and absolutely nothing else. can’t be left on the court for anything other than offense/defense switches to try to space the floor. And even then, I’d never actually do that.

Bill Walker – small forward. I thought he was going to be kind of better than he’s been so far. I think he’s had knee injury problems.

Royal Ivey – They keep him around to be the veteran presence in the locker room. He’s the third point guard, and you never want to actually have to use him except garbage time. Kevin Durant is such a cool dude, he let Royal make a cameo sitting next to him in one of his commercials.

Earl Clark – uh, big man I think? Shoot, I don’t know.

Ronnie Price – he’s been around awhile. Very short point guard, I think like around Nate Robinson size, without the athleticism to make it work. Doesn’t get much time.

Danny Green – one of those Sam Presti guys. Undrafted free agent I think, swingman. Seems solid so far, he keeps stealing minutes from Kawhi Leonard.

Aaron Gray – Big lumbering 7 foot white guy from Pitt. Can’t jump over a sheet of paper but has a nice soft shooting touch and takes up space in the paint. Played some halfway decent minutes for the Hornets in the playoffs. I have no idea what he’s doing on the Raptors.

Nick Young – idiot gunner. Negative bbiq. Blackest of black holes. Not good. It’s a two way tie between him and Blatche for least valuable player in the league in my book. Every washington coach that persists in starting them two guys deserve to get fired.

by howlingfantods on Jan 27, 2012 12:42 AM PST reply actions  

Tie for LVP

nice!

La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah

by AbuFatimah on Jan 27, 2012 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Couple follow-ups on the "semi-serious" list here

I think Pargo went to Russia, not China, but I really have no clue.

Mike James has a ring with Detroit, I believe. Bounced either from there to Houston or back and forth getting a decent contract at one point in a Jamal Crawford-ish role. Somehow much worse at it.

Koufos and Mullens, both were OSU centers after Oden. Mullens was actually one of the top 2-3 recruits going into college that year. Only thing I remember about his NBA career is that he was half of the draft day trade for Roddy Buckets.

AJ Price was best known for some sort of laptop stealing incident at UConn, as I recall.

Carroll was a Memphis pick out of Mizzou. Basically the same player as Balkman, just not a good sign when Sam Young is beating you out for minutes.

Walker definitely had some sort of knee issue, I believe in college. He was supposed to be the 2nd half of a stud recruiting class alongside Michael Beasley at KSU, but didn’t exactly delive.

Ivey’s Durant connection is through Texas.

Earl Clark – late lottery tweener forward. Utterly unremarkable.

Not sure what Green has to do with Presti. He was a Cavs 2nd rounder taken by Ferry in the Lebron years. I thought he’d be better, but I think he’s played like 1000 NBA minutes total in his career.

by Royster on Jan 27, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

My additions:

Gerald Henderson should stick

Demarre Carroll is a hustle player from Mizzou.

Earl Clark is a lanky and athletic PF type out of Louisville. Been with the Magic and has shown glimpses but unless a team sees something in him he may never be more than a 10-12 mpg guy.

Sundiata Gaines is the guy who out of nowhere got time for the Jazz last season and hit a ridiculous game winner that got him pub for awhile.

The Landlord is an excellent nickname, even if it only applied to him in college.

Koufos is fairly skilled for a big, but lacks athleticism and agility.

Brandan Wright was the 8th overall pick in his draft.

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Jan 27, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

you should know willie green!

with new orleans last year…
he torched us more than once last year

by johnshmidt on Jan 27, 2012 3:25 PM PST reply actions  

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