Please trade Felton and Wallace for an all-star point gaurd
by jons_guitar on Jan 25, 2012 9:34 PM PST
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We don't have any player that has a value close to an All-Star point guard besides LaMarcus
And trading him defeats the purpose.
We got Wallace for a hurt Joel, a bench player and a pick. Felton was a dump from Denver. As much as we like Crash, he didn’t magically increase in value.
There is no magic trade to fix this team’s holes. This will be a long-term process to rebuild, hopefully as quickly and pain-free as possible around a viable core. Not that they won’t try to shore up some problems before the deadline while the West is weak.
by Timmay! on Jan 25, 2012 10:18 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
wasn't the Felton trade for two first rounds picks and Andre
by Daddygr33nJeans on Jan 25, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
It was basically a double-dump trade
Blazers dump the unhappy Rudy, and Nuggets dumped the superfluous Felton (with Lawson’s rise). There are various arguments about why Andre was moved so I won’t go into that.
But there’s no mistake, the Nuggets were looking to dump Ray. He didn’t fit into their long term plans as Lawson rose.
Felton is awful
He belongs in real estate.
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by scaredcow on Jan 25, 2012 10:28 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I Like the Idea, But...
… It’s awfully tough to deal for either of those three.
Rondo’s value to the Celtics is a young point guard that they can build around after cutting loose of KG and Allen. What the Celtics (Ainge) would really like to do, is cut loose of the big three altogether, and go after this next big free agent class. If someone is going to trade for Rondo, I gotta believe Ainge will want them to take Pierce as well. This is what allows Ainge to dump the big three all at the same time, and if he has to give up Rondo to do it, I think he would.
Pierce and Rondo total over $25 million in cap space, and the Blazers are one of the few teams that could put together a package to make that happen via a combination of Camby ($11.2 mil), Felton ($7.5 mil), and Wallace ($9.5 mil). What this means though, is that the Blazers would be locked into whatever roster they ended up with after such a blockbuster deal. They’d have no lateral movement due to cap restrictions.
Deron Williams would be great, but he’s never even breathed the word “Portland” when asked where he would like to go. He’s been very clear about either NY, Dallas, or wherever Dwight Howard ends up. The problem is, Deron controls where he goes. No team can sign him, and no team can barter a sign-and-trade unless Deron gives the thumbs up. I don’t think he’ll ever do that for Portland.
Nash may be the easiest to get out of these three, but I’m not sure I want him. You’d be sacrificing a lot of cap space to have a guy for one or two years at max. If the Blazers were just one great point guard away from a championship (i.e., they had Oden healthy and playing effectively), then I’d say go for it. That’s not the case though. Adding Nash to this team would likely do little more (probably a little less), then create a team as effective as the Phoenix team that featured Stoudemire, Nash, and company. Mind you, that team never made it to the Finals.
I like Rondo a lot. I really do. I think he’d be the ideal point guard for the team (excellent distributor, high efficiency shooter, great defense and rebounding). If the Blazers could somehow work a 3-way trade with the Hornets to acquire Okafor, then I’d do it. Just keep in mind though, if this team were to exchange Wallace, Felton, Camby, and a combination of Babbitt/Williams/Smith/draft picks to acquire Rondo, Pierce, and Okafor, then that would be it. That would be your team and there’s no going back after that. You’d be locked into those guys for at least 3 years with no significant player shifts.
I’ve worked out the following on the Trade Machine: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6v4os9e
PG – Rondo (Crawford/Johnson)
SG – Matthews (Crawford/Williams)
SF – Pierce (Batum)
PF – Aldridge (Smith)
C – Okafor (Thomas)
Boston may consider this as it would allow them to relinquish $25 million in cap space that they couldn’t otherwise move on their own. Combine that with an extra $31 million they would relinquish from KG and Allen, now you’re talking about being $30 million UNDER THE CAP at the start of the next free agency period. Plenty of room to go out their and sign guys. This cap space and a high draft pick are exactly the tools Ainge could be looking for to rebuild.
New Orleans would definitely do this as it allows them to dump one of their useful high contracts in Okafor. The NBA is all about saving money with that team and right now, Okafor is burning a hole in their pockets.
One thing that trade machine doesn’t include are draft picks, of which I’m sure New Orleans would have to give up a top 10 protected pick to the Celtics to make this work.
by JDX on Jan 25, 2012 10:29 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
this is kind of heavy on the speculative side
Ok I changed my signature. Do you like it better now?
Speculation is the Name of the Game
Assessing what another GM is looking for, seeing if you can fill that need, and get something in return that said GM might be willing to give up. That’s what NBA player movement is all about. It’s all speculation.
That Is A darn Nice trade
Everybody gets what they want
Allthough NO would have to throw in a draft pick or two for us to take Okafors Bloated contract. no way we would do Camby for him straight up
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That'd Be Nice
But I prefer careers with a bit more job security.
The pay is pretty good I hear
And you can secure a spot on the Beach next to Don Nelson for about a Decade
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Draft Pick Goes to Boston
I agree that NO getting Okafor off their books for essentially nothing weighs heavily in their interest, and they would need to give up something for this luxury. But not to Portland. The Blazers are getting a premier young point guard, a proven veteran leader, and a solid (although overpriced) center. NO’s draft pick would need to go to Boston to sweeten the deal for them.
Remember, in speculating Ainge is looking to rebuild, he would value that draft pick much more than Portland and thus would make it easier for him to pull the trigger on giving up his young All-Star point guard.
By no means is this deal perfect. Locking your team up, having to rely on mini-mid levels and late draft picks for player acquisition, and paying a steep luxury tax is no small order for any team. Particularly not for Portland who has been through this before (*cough*Whitsitt*cough*).
Our management, McMillan included, would have to feel strongly that these were the pieces required for a championship.
Boston still never does that deal in a million years.
You’re vastly underrating Rajon Rondo’s trade value.
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by AK1984 on Jan 26, 2012 1:09 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Why? This is Ainge We're Talking About
It all comes down to how badly and to what extent Ainge wants to rebuild. It’s clear this team is not as effective as it once was and even if they made the playoffs, they would be hard pressed to beat either Miami or Chicago, let alone both. Ainge knows this and he also knows that having Rondo makes no difference with that fact staring him straight in the face. He also knows that he’s coming up on a hot free-agent period.
Why not put yourself in a position to to get another draft pick, and place yourself $30 million under the cap when you know that not only can your team not compete with the other two division leaders, but that you’re getting beaten by Philadelphia in the division you used to dominate.
Also, it’s not like Ainge hasn’t paraded Rondo around on the trade market before.
As long as they have Pierce’s contract, they’ll be somewhat limited in what they can do. If Ainge doesn’t believe that he can effectively re-build a team around Rondo, Green, and Pierce, then he’ll do whatever it takes to break it down and start over.
If Boston wants to rebuild, then keep Rajon Rondo.
If Boston wants to rebuild sans Rondo, then deal him for a great young big like Marcin Gortat.
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by AK1984 on Jan 26, 2012 1:42 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Tough Luck Getting Phoenix to do That
Nash and Gortat for Rondo? Of course Boston would do that. Ainge would love that trade!
Look, I’m not saying there aren’t other options for Boston out there. The two you’ve mentioned so far though are really bad trades for the teams on the receiving end. The Pacers would clearly be hindered by acquiring Pierce, and Phoenix would be shooting themselves in the foot by trading cap space and Gortat for Rondo.
Heck, as I’ve already stated, Portland is hamstrung as well. They just may be in a better spot than those other teams, which in the end, makes that trade plausible.
I agree
As much as I would like a trade like this to happen, Rondo is their number one building block. There will be no point in freeing up all that cap-space if nobody wants to come to the team anyway because of the lack of supporting cast.
Unless they are going the total rebuild-through-the-draft route, which I doubt.
yeah, it is
they would never do it.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
If it so desired, Boston could probably move Paul Pierce much easier than that.
Maybe something like Pierce to the Indiana Pacers for Paul George, which gets the Celtics under the luxury tax this season, adds a decent young player, and frees up cap space heading into the off-season.
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ub6pbq
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How come?
Ainge wants to get some young players with potential and “retool” or however you want to put it. Now they could wait till to do a draft day trade because it leaves kind of leaves a hole at the 2 for the season for the Indiana but the Pacers are a good candidate to land Eric Gordan in free agency.
by FPS NorthWest on Jan 26, 2012 12:59 AM PST up reply actions
Even for the season, Paul Pierce can play the 2.
Pierce has both the handles and shooting stroke for it, even if he’d have some difficulty staying in front of quicker opponents defensively.
If taking on future salary is so problematic, then instead make the trade Ray Allen from Boston to Indiana for a 2012 first-round draft pick.
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Allen
I’ve proposed the Allen to Indiana scenario as well, except a little differently. I could see Minny making a strong offer too. I think a team like the Rockets would be a more likely fit for Pierce IF they (BOS) decide to rebuild. Definitely seems like the Rockets would be willing to give up a lot for an aging star.
Not sure where Garnett could go…
Robbing Gordon to Pay Paul
The Pacers would never be able to sign Hibbert, Hill, and Gordon if they had Pierce’s contract. Wouldn’t happen.
Regarding Eric Gordon, Indiana better not count its chickens before they hatch.
Since he’ll be a RFA, there’s no guarantee that the Pacers will be able to nab Gordon. While it’s understandable that they’ll make a strong effort to obtain him, it’s no sure thing.
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Not as risky as Boston dumping Rondo for a pittance.
The only way that I see the Celtics trading Rondo is if it’s to push for one last shot at the title this season. Something such as, oh, Rondo and O’Neal for Nash and Gortat. A Gortat/Garnett/Pierce/Allen/Nash five-man unit could make a run as a high seed come playoff time.
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Pittance?
$30 million in cap space and a conditional first round pick are a pittance? Hmm…
I’ve got a car to sell you, and I’m only asking a “pittance.” What do you say?
So you think Phoenix would trade $12 million in cap relief and their best young player (not to mention one of the better young centers in the league) for Rondo? As a Blazer fan, sounds good to me!
Rondo is getting mega disrespected in this thread
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 26, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
It appears that even Rondos friends dont respect him so
We are in the right boat
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what is this comment based on?
did I miss something?
The problem
Boston could get rid of Pierce easily without packaging him with Rondo. We aren’t talking about Turkoglu or Rashard Lewis here.
I Have No Doubts Boston Would Do That
But would Indiana? That trade would essentially blow their available cap room before an offseason in which they’d be faced with having to sign two of their own key players in Hibbert and Hill. Sure, they could probably do it after signing big offer sheets but not without going further into cap debt.
And for what? A guy who plays the exact role on the team as your current highest paid player? The GM for Indiana would have to believe that the addition of Pierce would be the final piece of the puzzle for a team that will eventually have to go through Miami or Chicago.
Not exactly a great trade for the Pacers. Sure, you may increase the win total this season and increase your playoff seeding. However you’ve effectively obliterated your cap freedom and created somewhat of a log jam at the SG/SF spot. That’s a big risk on their part. Much bigger than the risk Portland would be taking.
"A guy who plays the exact role on the team as your current highest paid player?"
Paul Pierce and Danny Granger are different types of players stylistically. Unlike Granger, Pierce has the handles and iso ability to play the 2 effectively. Defensively, however, it’d be an issue.
“That trade would essentially blow their available cap room before an offseason in which they’d be faced with having to sign two of their own key players in Hibbert and Hill.”
It’s here I agree. Because of the potential financial ramifications, Ray Allen to Indiana for a 2012 first-rounder may be more sensible.
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It's a Generalization
I understand that Granger isn’t Pierce’s identical twin, however both Granger and Pierce are SG/SF types. Both look to shoot before anything else. Neither are great defenders.
Sure Paul distributes a little more, but essentially, these two function as the same type of player for a team. A SG/SF who can score and do a little rebounding.
Point being, this is not exactly a need that Indiana needs filled.
Well, if it’s Allen you’re talking about, then that’s different. But that doesn’t affect Portland so no biggee.
Yeah, I agree that Indiana taking on Pierce's large salary would be a costly committment.
My money is on Indiana likely sitting tight for the most part this season and, in the end, being a two-and-out playoff squad. A good, yet not great team.
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What do you mean by pure?
Both Pierce and Granger have started and logged significant time at shooting guard. Not sure what your definition is by “pure” is. Both of them are more comfortable at the 3. Pierce is definitely a better candidate at the 2 if you had to pick.
Regardless of what “pure” means, the fact still remains that they fill the same role on any team, including the Pacers.
To specify, look at Granger's five-man units over the past several years.
He never plays the 2. Doesn’t have the handles or driving ability to pull it off.
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Without Splitting Hairs, the Point Still Stands
He’s played the 2, 3, and 4. Clearly optimal at the 3. Fills the same role that Pierce would fill. Not a great trade for the Pacers for this and a multitude of other reasons already stated above.
When's Danny Granger played the 2?
Look at his five-man units over the past several years.
http://basketballvalue.com/player.php?year=2011-2012&id=155
http://basketballvalue.com/player.php?id=155&year=2010-2011
http://basketballvalue.com/player.php?id=155&year=2009-2010
http://basketballvalue.com/player.php?id=155&year=2008-2009
http://basketballvalue.com/player.php?id=155&year=2007-2008
The guy isn’t a 2 in any facet. Granger is a pure 3 who can masquerade as a small ball 4 when called upon to do so. Consequently, that makes him a 3/4.
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"Fills the same role that Pierce would fill."
They’re different players stylistically, so no. Not true.
“Not a great trade for the Pacers for this and a multitude of other reasons already stated above.”
Financially, that’s correct. It’d be too expensive of a salary commitment for Indiana. That’s the one argument in your favor and I’ll give you that.
As you can see, I conceded some middle ground. Unlike most people, I’ve shown myself capable of that.
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Conceding middle ground? That's just a euphemism for
back pedaling and trying to save face without admitting you were wrong!
(I’m kidding, btw)
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
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now you are talking about a high powered offense with him running the show.
Lets get miller back, he is a damn alpha and nate couldnt handle it
we would be crushing if we had Dre right now, I hope felton could get better, but I honestly expect dre to be a better PG than felton until dre retires.
LMA is missing dre right now. We should have kept Dre, got Farried, and signed a PG instead of Jamal, let elliot williams get back up minutes at SG behind Mathews/batum.
Dre is now in a better team and plays for a coach who respects him and trusts him.
Why would he want to return to Portland?
and he's unhappy with his backup role
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 26, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
dre is done with portland, we treated him too bad for him to consider re signing here.
that is on nate and our managment a bit. Getting felton was supposed to be the next best choice after we blundered the chance to have a PG who would help us to a good seed in the playoff.
Not sure if Dre could have got us over the hump in playoffs but he would have gotten us a better chance just with our regular season record alone.
this year we will see if dre can get over the hump in playoffs.
by tevisthe4th on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Dre was treated just like he treated us
it’s a business
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe the other way around, Dre treated us how we treated him.
But he was nothing but a pro, and probably the reason this team made the playoffs last year.
he's nothing if not a professional
you may be right about the order of operations. We weren’t quick to embrace him to say the least, but he’s also got a mercenary mentality.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
Felton, Wallace, C. Johnson
for Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins.
Golden State makes a run at Dwight Howard after the season and tries to keep Wallace as well.
—Dave
Ellis and Crawford on the floor at the same time?
I can’t think of a faster way to get our bigs in foul trouble.
by hoodieNation on Jan 25, 2012 11:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
this is a lot like the Andre Miller for Felton idea.
Trading a better player for a worse player with higher trade value.
Crash is a much much much better player than Monta, who is essentially a one dimensional and not very efficient gunner (albeit a very fun one to watch). But Monta’s younger and scores more and has more general trade value. GSW would instantly say no to this offer, and if they accepted it, our team would instantly be much worse.
by howlingfantods on Jan 25, 2012 11:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What would I do with my Gerald Wallace jersey?
by Oden Mad, Oden Smash! on Jan 26, 2012 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
Hug it and remember better days
by hoodieNation on Jan 26, 2012 1:06 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Naw, they overrate their own players even more than blazers do.
Lacob is still arguing that they made the right move to amnesty Charlie Bell instead of Biedrins, because he thinks Biedrins has value on the court. And he thinks of Monta the same way we do about LaMarcus—one of the top players in the game, one of the best at his position, all that jazz.
by howlingfantods on Jan 26, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the Warriors new ownership has shown itself thus far to be fairly inept.
I’m still amazed that one of Don Nelson’s old lackeys, Larry Riley, is still with the organization as GM. It’s also amusing that co-owner Joe Lacob hired his son, Kirk, to be a high-ranking member of the basketball operations department, which screams nepotism.
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Nepotism is pretty rampant in every sector of the economy
We call it “networking” nowadays.
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Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
by HailOden! on Jan 26, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not hatin' on the playas tho
Just the game
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
"I'm not hatin' on the playas tho"
Yeah, gotta take what you can get.
“Just the game”
Exactly …
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Yeah, Dwight Howard won't go there.
Also, I think that trade is a bad fit for both teams.
1. Neither Monta Ellis nor Andris Biedrins fix Portland’s long-term problems, as Ellis is a ball pounding chucker and Biedrins is a weak post player. On top of that, their contracts would hamstring Portland for the next few seasons.
2. It’d surely spearhead the rebuilding process for Golden State by clearing some salary, but the reward wouldn’t be anything secured in free agency. Instead, the Warriors plan would then be to tank both this year and next. It’s doubtful the new ownership wants to go that route, though, as they seem hell-bent on competing.
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"Ellis is a ball pounding chucker"
Funny he’s the type of ’Chucker" that can go 2 for 9, 4 points but dish out 12 assists 3 steals and a block in a win over Portland.
The Blazers are the 'big brother' in this relationship
The little brother gets a new toy (all star) and the big brother has to go break it.
-----KFBR392
"ball stopper" might be a better description than "chucker"
although “chucker” isn’t entirely inaccurate.
The problem with Ellis’s game is partly about offensive discipline and shot selection, but it’s more about how much he dominates the ball. No one short of Steve Nash ought to be dribbling the ball on offense as much as Ellis does, especially on a team with another great offensive creator like Steph.
by howlingfantods on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Dave was saying that GSW would make a run for Dwight in free agency, not proposing any
kind of trade for him.
Although I also agree with AK that there’s very little chance DHo would go to GSW.
by howlingfantods on Jan 26, 2012 9:18 AM PST up reply actions
He´s the backup PG for his team.
It would be easier with Luke Ridnour. The Wolves already have Rubio, who played 46 mins yesterday in a blowout win in Dallas, and Barea. Once the three are healthy there won´t be playing time for him, and keeping Luke playing at SG, as they have been doing, is wrong.
Since Nate is done with batum
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=86p44x5
Why not this move. We get some length, back up PF and sf. New pg. We then try and buy a pg next year.
Where on earth do you get the idea that Nate is done with Batum?
Just because Batum has to compete for minutes with Wallace and secondarily Matthews doesn’t remotely indicate anyone is done with him.
Good lord. Why in hell's name would we do that move?
Beasley has negative trade value, and is an anchor on the court. Ant Randolph is immensely talented but has zero bbiq and is constantly making such serious mistakes that he can’t even beat out Darko and Pekovic for playing time. Ridnour is an adequate backup point guard but he’s not worth trading Batum and Felton for.
by howlingfantods on Jan 26, 2012 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
hehe, I wouldn't trade anything more than Babbitt for those 3.
I like Ridnour though. lol
by hoodieNation on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly! why isn't Blazer brass pushing their magic trade button?
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ESPN on Nash
Their running a “rumour” with the title “Time to trade Nash?” and the tagline…“They need to get someting for him”. I’m not sure any of the teams that could use Nash for a playoff run can afford him (Miami, LAL etc.). I’ll bet we could get him for much less than we probably think. I wouldn’t be surprised if they took Felton and a 2nd round pick (plus Babbitt to make the salaries work). A trade like that and all of the sudden PDX is a serious Western Conference contender.
No Nash! Too old! He honestly in my opinion is overrated.
by lawalteral14 on Jan 26, 2012 10:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'd love to get Nash on the cheap, even if it's just for a half season
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by sammymohawk on Jan 26, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
Trade Idea
Full disclosure – I think wallace needs to be traded asap. I love his energy but the guy has always been significantly worse when playing on the road, can’t shoot, and has too many hard miles on his body. He is paid about his worth now, so if he wants more money, then he will be significantly overpaid. Paying him more than $10/yr will become a bad deal as early as next year, and certainly would be a bad deal by the end of the contract.
Also, I don’t think we can trade felton or jamal for anyone worthwhile, so I’m assuming we’re stuck with them for the rest of the year. If we could trade one or both of them for a solid PG or Big, I’d do that in a heartbeat.
I did not run anything through the trade machine, but I think the salaries are pretty close and could use filler to seal the deal.
1- Trade Wallace for Ray allen. Start Batum.and bring Wes off the bench.
Ray gives us a real shooter, plays decent defense, has championship experience, and he could teach batum/wes the art of getting open off screens. This trade makes us a little guard heavy, so we’d need to play wes some at the 3 or look into a smaller trade for a backup SF. Nolan smith gets squeezed from the rotation, and felton/crawford share “pg” duties.
Not sure if the celtics would do this as there roster is currently constructed, but if they are going into rebuild mode and make some other deals (moving pierce), maybe they’d be willing to listen.
Start Elliot Williams
See how fast Felton’s game improves after Nate sits him behind 2 rookies.
we can still win........
Trade for Nash
If the Blazers really want to win now, they should try to move Batum and Felton for Nash and then try to convince NO to swap Camby for Okafor (or Gortat if you want to really dream big). I think there’s a chance we could swing both deals. Nash would do wonders for our offense, and he’s not that much of a downgrade vs. Felton on D. Nash is still one of the most effective shooters ever. He would take LA to the next level. And he would bring order and stability to our fourth quarter offense. Obviously, losing Batum hurts, but he’s expendable in the short run with Wallace. Camby is a better fit than Okafor when healthy, but I don’t trust him to stay healthy, and his offense has really tanked. LA would miss his high-post passing, but Nash would make up for that. And Nash would make Okafor a serviceable big offensively. Plus, Nash and Okafor are high-IQ, high-character guys, who would blend in quickly.
Obviously, this trade could get ugly next year if Nash walked and would completely hose up our coming cap space. But I honestly think we’d have a shot this year. Not a great shot, but a shot—certainly more than we have now. Nash is still one of those guys who makes the entire team better. And this season is proving to be a crazy one. Much like the last strike-shortened season, things are as wide-open as they’re ever going to be. With Nash, we might not be better than those Phoenix teams were (older Nash vs. younger; Wallace vs. Matrix; LMA vs. Amare), but they came pretty close, and could contend this year. If we did well this year, I think we’d have a decent chance to re-sign Nash on a short deal.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
How about this?
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7ok7nx3
Throw in a couple 2nd rounders, PAM, and their pick of our Euro-stash.
Maybe a little too good for us, but Sarver is known for his cost-cutting ways. This is the ultimate “all-in” trade. Kills our cap-space but gives us a legit chance by filling our biggest holes.
If that isn’t good enough, maybe this (sub Dudley for Warrick): http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7fpb8b7
I really think Batum, Wallace, Matthews, and Aldridge would all benefit a ton from playing with an elite offensive point guard.
Brandon Jennings
Is the guy we need. I’m thinking realistically, no way we get dwill or rondo, and I will pass on nash, no thanks. Jennings would be a perfect fit..
All day long
I just don’t see the Bucks getting rid of Bogut though.
Hadn't heard that
but I heard we like to pay bigs to rehab.
good one?
your trade machine link has us receiving Maurice Williams
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But I like this better
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6q4zh76
PG. Williams, Kirk
SG. Matthews, Kirk
SF. Batum, Smith
PF. Smith, Thomas,
C. Aldridge, Priz, Jhonson
Rule of thumb
- just say no to any trade which we become responsible for Kirk Heinrichs salary
- Just say no to any trade in which you trad your starting center for another teams 3rd string pg making 8.8mil per
In the words of The former first lady Nancy Reagan=
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And trust me , both of those teams would do that in a heartbeat
and probably both give us two unprotected #1s apiece
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