How much is too much

by ripcitymilehigh on Jan 25, 2012 9:17 PM PST

Wow, another swing and miss for the front office...this is becoming a pattern. I hope they truly do have something planned for Greg beyond the simple 1.5 mil...otherwise they are 0-3 (maybe 1-4 counting Crawford).

Got me thinking though, if I were to give the the benefit of the doubt and presume that Nic's agent was asking for too much (say 9 mil +) when to the Blazers just let him go (could they swing a sign & trade)?

The same could be said for Greg, Jamal, and Crash. Although I don't see crash getting much more than he has now (10 mil or so). In Batum's case, I don't think he signs for less than 8 mil, I mean Gallo got 10+ and Affalo got 7+ last year. In limited minutes Nic is playing like a top 15 SF in the league and there are plenty of teams who will be willing to spend on a young versitile wing with a great personality and plenty of untapped upside. So if 8 mil is a bottom, how much did Nic want, and how much did the Blazers offer...how can this be so hard?

Greg is a real exciting case. From his production, his value should be mid-level or less, but his upside might loosen some wallets. Are the Blazers even in the running, how much would they want to invest?

Jamal won't get more than 10mil (IMHO)...he just isn't consistent enough. Do you pay Crawford big money (Batum money or more) and leave Williams on the bench? Couldn't Williams shoot 35%/30% for far less money AND be a better defender? Nolan plays like a 2 anyway and he has shown real chucker tendencies...chuck away my friend and save the team millions of dollars!

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big decisions

Wallace/Batum/Crawford…Nate would seem to prefer the old guys…regardless of production.

the three of them could top 30 mil a year

by ripcitymilehigh on Jan 25, 2012 10:09 PM PST reply actions

Talking to myself i guess...

…but unless Wallace signs for quite a bit more than he makes now (which seems real unlikely)
the team could sign:

Wallace/Batum/Crawford (28 mil or so),
pay LA, sign (13 + mil.),
sign Greg and Felton to reasonable deals (12-15 mil),
bring over Freeland (Splitter money 3-5 mil.),
keep the youth Smith/Williams/Babbit (4-5 mil),
resign Johnson and Mills (2 mil),
pay a rookie (2 mil),
and a couple of vets to fill out the bench (3 mil)

and be right around the luxury tax level…certainly not past that first 5 mil of luxury tax money where the penalty goes up. And really that penalty isn’t for a couple of years…so throw some bucks in there to resign Camby for a year or 2 (reasonably) if he’s interested.

I guess it all depends on that first group of guys and what the market makes of them.

by ripcitymilehigh on Jan 25, 2012 10:33 PM PST reply actions

Wes

by Daddygr33nJeans on Jan 25, 2012 10:35 PM PST up reply actions

28 million for one position

a back up sg and no allstars? we definitely have some tough decisions coming up

by Jefferson541 on Jan 25, 2012 11:12 PM PST reply actions

3 yr 27 mill front load on Wallace

4 yr 36 mill Batum

if we had to bring felton back 3-4 mill one year

Oden 2 years second year team option 15 mill

Crawford 3yrs 19-20 mill

by Daddygr33nJeans on Jan 26, 2012 12:01 AM PST reply actions

Front loading a contract for Wallace is not a good idea

Since we’re trying to improve using capspace this summer, we need to maximize the money we have available. Backloading as much money as possible (by means of higher Bird-rights annual raises) is the way to go, if we bring back Wallace.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 26, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions

i was thinking because he's a athlete not a 3pt shooter, not a Point forward

Basically not what Andre miller is, where he’s good but not because he’s athletic but because he’s skilled. I’m not saying Wallace isn’t skilled but he needs his athleticism to do a lot, that’s why its front load because he’ll start to lose that in the coming years.

by Daddygr33nJeans on Jan 26, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions