Prime Roy vs. Current LaMarcus

by Cadellac on Jan 23, 2012 11:40 PM PST

First of all, anybody know how Brandon's doing?

Anyways, LaMarcus's PER recently jumped to 23.59! That's near Dwight Howard production, so here comes the quesion. Which player do you think is more valuable? The two are pretty hard to compare, one being a big man and the other being a guard, but who would you rather builld a team around?

The 08-09 Brandon was producing 23 points on 48 percent shooting in 37 minutes. He made 82 percent of his FT and had both 5 assists and rebounds a game. 2 TO, 1 steal, and 38 percent from downtown to finish off all the stats.

LA is averagin 23 points on 49 percent shooting in 38 minutes. He makes 78 percent of his free throws and has 9 rebounds a game. 1 block and 3 assists, with the same number of TO and steals.

The stats are similair, so which one is more valuable? LA is a big man, which pretty much is an advantage itself in a league of guards. He's fairly smart with the ball, and plays defense. He can be a leader, but is nothing of what Brandon was. Brandon was a little smarter with the ball, and had those clutch moments.

I actually didn't watch the Blazers as much in 08 as I do now, so what do you guys think? If you could have either, who would you build your eam around? (NOT NECESSARILY THE CURRENT TEAM)

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Who is the better centerpiece for a team?

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BRoy=Clutch!

by jontwin on Jan 24, 2012 12:06 AM PST reply actions

Stevie Nicks, Billy Corgan, and Natalie Maines all agree.

This is a “Landslide” for B-Roy.

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by AK1984 on Jan 24, 2012 12:33 AM PST reply actions 2 recs

good one.

And accurate.

by howlingfantods on Jan 24, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions

LMA

Big man first, so long as the star is not Michael Jordan. There will always be more perimeter talent around. That said, BRoy was totally clutch in a way that most players can only envy… including Lamarcus. This team now needs a clutch scorer… Crawford doesn’t quite make the grade… Oh he can replace the Outlaw magic of 08, but Brandon was in a league of two with how clutch he was back then… only D Wade could claim to be as clutch.

by avalancheman on Jan 24, 2012 12:39 AM PST reply actions

And Carmelo but that’s it.

by AP_18 on Jan 24, 2012 10:17 PM PST up reply actions

Considering the players we're working with...

B-Roy. He seemed to be a natural leader on the court. He wasn’t the most athletic, but the fact that he could almost score at will should set the idea that he was the man.
Now, fortunately/unfortunately, the loss of B-Roy made way for the L-Train. Aldridge is a pretty good big man. He’s got the fine post moves, jump shots, and the defense. His rebounding has also improved a bit.
Now, if only we had both the prime B-Roy and the current L-Train, we’d be good. But only if our offensive system utilized both players’ talents along with other sidekicks, such as Batum and Matthews.

And as for Oden… Oden in his injured form could never be a centerpiece. I don’t know why you put that down. But if he wasn’t injured, or if he could have made some sort of comeback like Blake Griffin, then I think Oden would be competitor for the title of centerpiece (if helps to play the position of “center,” right?) Oden has decent offense, but superb defense. Well, aside from all the foul troubles he got into, but I blame the refs for some of those calls.

If life was kind and loving for the Portland Trail Blazers, we would be blessed with three All-Stars, and at that point, I would think that all three would form a trio centerpiece. But with the options you provided, I’m gonna have to go with The Natural.

by Hopman27 on Jan 24, 2012 12:57 AM PST reply actions

it'd be scary to see how he is if he was athletic

if having a 42 inch vertical was his unathletic…

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by Tofu Anonymous on Jan 24, 2012 6:05 AM PST up reply actions

I heard that claim, too.

Not saying it’s not true, but Roy just wasn’t explosive like, say a Vince Carter explosive. Unless he was and was just being fundamental the whole time.
I think you know what I’m trying to say, though. I said he wasn’t the most athletic, not unathletic. Hahahaha!

by Hopman27 on Jan 24, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions

No quesetion. BRoy

There aren’t a lot (any?) of players I would take over BRoy these days

by llamaiguana on Jan 24, 2012 1:03 AM PST reply actions

Let me be clear

This is not saying that I do not think LMA is a bad cog to build around at all, but 08-09 Brandon Roy was just that good and then some. The moves, the determination, the ability to produce nightly with half the shots Kobe takes. I think Ron Artest (he still was at the time) said it best when he said that Brandon Roy was the toughest player he had ever played against. That’s what B.Roy was, and adding his character into the mix there aren’t many players I would take to start a franchise over him. (If he knees were healthy)

LaMarcus is great, and is still developing his all around game, and is especially fun to watch when he is playing like he has been. Big when we need him to be and huge on the boards. But if I had one wish involving sports it would be a long career with a healthy Brandon Roy.

by NicoFTW on Jan 24, 2012 1:11 AM PST reply actions

Aldridge, due to his durability and versatility.

If one assumes both can be reasonably healthy, Roy.

I don’t even mean Roy’s knees breaking down, but his repeated surgeries, tweaks, nagging injuries, etc.

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by austinpwnz on Jan 24, 2012 1:13 AM PST reply actions

I vote Aldridge

Because he is more of a team player. He will be even better when decent outside shooting helps free up some space.
Sounds harsh, I know, but the Blazers are better off without Roy. The problem is that he was replaced by Crawford.

by Kevlar Rocket on Jan 24, 2012 3:50 AM PST reply actions

yeah Roy was an amazing player,

but he too often went into iso-mode, with his teammates fading into the background. much like Kobe, I think he would need a more assertive coach to bring in an offense that would keep his teammates involved. LaMarcus as a central figure is much better keeping his teammates involved.

by YoniRap on Jan 24, 2012 9:28 AM PST up reply actions

Roy a hundred time over.

Prim Roy was the best Blazer we’ve had in years.

by hoodieNation on Jan 24, 2012 8:22 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

prim? lol, how about prime

by hoodieNation on Jan 24, 2012 8:22 AM PST up reply actions

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by HailOden! on Jan 24, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions

I like the new avatar, btw.

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by HailOden! on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions

prime Roy

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by sammymohawk on Jan 24, 2012 10:35 AM PST reply actions

My eyes say Roy, but the +/- numbers over the past two years say LaMarcus.

I know adjusted +/- and raw +/- have a lot of problems, but the difference is pretty significant. And it’s a hard one to explain away when you consider the revolving door known as the Blazer’s roster over the past 2-3 years.

Roy was a special player though, so I gotta go with the eye test on this one.

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by HailOden! on Jan 24, 2012 10:39 AM PST reply actions

in my eyes this is comparing apples to oranges you need both to win a championship there numbers together is what you need and then you just get role players….

by Canthus90 on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM PST reply actions

Brandon Roy was vastly more valuable

Don’t just look at his numbers, look at the numbers his teammates posted. Almost everyone on the team had a career year in 2008-2009 because Roy was so scary that they got easy looks constantly.

In particular, Travis Outlaw and Martell Webster need to be sending a big chunk of their paycheck to Brandon every week, and Steve Blake looked better next to Roy than he does next to Kobe.

by Agenda42 on Jan 24, 2012 2:19 PM PST reply actions

I forgot to add...

The 2008-2009 Blazers were the most efficient offense in the league with a lineup containing Joel Przybilla, Steve Blake, and Martell Webster. If that doesn’t tell you how good Roy was, I don’t know what will.

by Agenda42 on Jan 24, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions