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Game 16 Preview: Portland Trail Blazers vs. Detroit Pistons

Game Time: 4:30 p.m. Pacific TV: CSNNW

Lately on back-to-back nights for the Blazers it's been "out of the frying pan and into the fire". With Toronto and Detroit the opponents in this pair of games it's more like "off of a very small hot plate and sixty-two feet away from a flickering match". Like the Raptors, the Pistons are nursing a horrible record and a boatload of recent losses. Unlike the Raptors, the Pistons can't claim injuries as a major--or even partial--cause of their woes. They're just bad.

Detroit's great hope is center Greg Monroe. He's 6'11" and 250 lbs so he's got some size to him. In his second year he's quietly become one of the better all-around offensive centers in the league. He scores 16 per game on 54.5% shooting, He's over 9 rebounds per game, 4 of those offensive. He even salts in 3 assists. His defense is passable, though he's neither a shot-blocker nor a volume defensive rebounder. If he's able to bump up his play on that end of the floor Detroit will have a legitimate and valuable star upon which to build.

And "build" is exactly what they need to do because the rest of this lineup is an eyesore. Ben Gordon and Rodney Stuckey normally start in the backcourt. Stuckey has been sore so rookie Brandon Knight has taken his place in the starting lineup for now. We'll see how long that lasts. (Stuckey didn't play at all versus Memphis so maybe the Blazers will avoid him.) Gordon is shooting well enough (42% overall, 44% from distance) but doesn't do much else outside of 15 ppg. Stuckey is shooting horribly from everywhere but the three-point arc (35% from distance himself, 34% overall) and also providing only modest help outside of his 11 per game point production. In particular both guards use a ton of possessions and produce few assists. Their defense is horrible. 2009 called. It wants its promising young stars back. Knight can score. But Knight's game suffers from the same illness as those of the starting guards: way too intermittent, too self-serving, not accompanied by defense.

Tayshaun Prince and Jonas Jerebko start at the forward positions. Prince is old, showing signs of decline everywhere in his game outside of shooting deep, and Jerebko is productive but young...an offensive rebounder who will occasionally put up a long shot as well.

Detroit's bench has some name power in Jason Maxiell, Ben Wallace, Austin Daye, and Brandon Knight. If nothing else they've got some big bodies there. Sadly none of these big men are producing this season, leaving the bench rather limp in everything but name.

Detroit's main problem is a lack of scoring. And that's an understatement. It's one thing to have not broken 100, which the Piston's haven't. but these guys have only broken 90 four times all year. They're 2-2 in those games. Like the Raptors last night they're inefficient and generate few easy points in the lane, off the break, or at the foul line. They shoot a decent percentage from the three-point arc but seldom take them. Their calling card on offense, if they have one, is offensive rebounding. But that's mostly a "strength" in the sense of not being as bad as everything else they do. The Pistons also have the odd distinction of generating the fewest possessions in the league yet turning over the ball more than anyone on a per-possession basis. Deliberate and clumsy aren't supposed to go together.

Detroit's defense is also inefficient. They allow plenty of points in the paint and fast break points considering their style. Opponents average 47% shooting against them. They're last in the league in blocked shots, low in turnovers forced, and they don't rebound well at the defensive end.

In short, despite carrying players with some explosive potential, the Pistons are big, fat duds right now. This is another game where talent and experience alone should carry the Blazers to an easy win. The Blazers shouldn't have to double-team many guys. If they just avoid the season-high or career-game from 2-3 of these guys (and it's hard to imagine that happening to any of them, let alone multiple players) they should find a fine finish to a rough road trip.

Hear the Detroit story at Detroit Bad Boys but be forewarned: "bad" has a dual meaning for the Pistons this year.

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--Dave (blazersub@gmail.com)

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I love BlazersEdge <3

"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil

by 420Phenom on Jan 20, 2012 10:08 PM PST reply actions  

With that said,

Their tandem of Brandon Knight/Greg Monroe looks more promising for the next 10 years then LaMarcus/Whoever you want to plug in to the #2 spot

"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil

by 420Phenom on Jan 20, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Easy solution...

Become a Piston fan!..

For the next 5 years I’ll take LaMarcus and “whoever”… Right now the Pistons are 3-13… and as any Blazer fan knows the promise for the future doesn’t always pay off. Remember the promise of the trio of Brandon, LMA & GO.

#7... GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Jan 21, 2012 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Remember when people thought that Joe Dumars was a great GM?

I still can’t believe he blew all that cash on Ben Gordan and Charlie.

by Dustructo on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

In his defense

he has rebuilded solidly after giving out those terrible contracts.

"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil

by 420Phenom on Jan 20, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

When you get a couple of top 10 picks you probably should make the most of them.

Milicic aside, he seems to do well in drafts, but I can’t wrap my head around blowing all that money on those two guys plus extending Hamiliton, Iverson for Billups and not parting with Tayshon.

He kind of wasted the assets he had to get a good return that could have put him in even better position for rebuilding.

by Dustructo on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Rebuilt

"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 21, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Lets chalk this up as two in a row

Im still waiting fro Big Play Babs’ first triplr double
Is tonight the night?

La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah

by AbuFatimah on Jan 20, 2012 10:17 PM PST reply actions  

Got to get this one

On a side note…Ricky Rubio is shockingly good.

by poorwebguy on Jan 20, 2012 10:19 PM PST reply actions  

Wolves-Clips a VERY exciting game

Rubio with a miracle three

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG KEVIN LOVE

Wow, that was just sick.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jan 20, 2012 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah only way to describe it

The play call was excellent too. Picks set…everything. They actually have a decent coach now. The bad thing is we have to play them like 4 times or something.

by poorwebguy on Jan 20, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

they are in our division

But the Clips were undermanned tonight. We should demolish them.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jan 20, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm betting they'll be even more dangerous than they look now

and the way our guys are playing anything but a gimme scares me. They may end up better than the Clips.

by poorwebguy on Jan 20, 2012 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Way better than Flop city

They are gonna be headed straight to the Lottery once bone-on-bone boy shuts it down for the year
like every year

La Illaha Illallah Muhamadur Rasulallah

by AbuFatimah on Jan 21, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that bad?

that I like competitive basketball? even though it is against what was formerly known as the NBA’s sewe team?

"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil

by 420Phenom on Jan 20, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

plus, that was just bad defense from the Clippers....

There was no one within 5 feet of him….

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Jan 21, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah it was a wiiiiide open 3pt

and Love is a good shooter. If it hadn’t been for the game the Rubio shot to tie would have been more impressive. Takes guts to put that shot down in the clutch after going like 1 for 10 or something.

Griffin/Jordan got torched by Darko/Love too. Blake with more solid defense.

by poorwebguy on Jan 21, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

just great

aldridge goes for 33-23 and now kevin love unveils that he’s clutch!! klove is not making it easy to prove that he isn’t as good as LMA, which he isn’t

by permaswoon on Jan 20, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Lol

I thought the exact same thing when he made that shot. I was like “Yes LAC lost!” and then “Damn, that didn’t help LMA make the All-Star game over KLove.”

by AR-15 on Jan 21, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

LA is going to make the All-Star team over Tim Duncan and Pau Gasol.

It’s in the bag…..unless things start to go horribly wrong…..

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Jan 21, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Kevin Love is not as good as LMA

HES BETTER THAN LMA

as much as i hate to say it, truth hurts though

by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 21, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they're different kinds of players

Love is very skilled at what he does but he’ll get dominated in head to head match ups with LMA and will struggle against defenses really working to lock down his scoring.

Stick a great defender on Love and it will be a long night for him. Single coverage great defender will rarely work against LMA when he’s looking to score unless it happens to be one of 3 guys that do a pretty decent job on him. Even then they usually get some help against him from other defenders.

LMA also plays better defense then Love…excepting rebounds. LMA can also iso.

by poorwebguy on Jan 21, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

That was pretty funny.
2009 called. It wants its promising young stars back

by Devyn on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 PM PST reply actions  

Detroit Bad Boys

You know, I respect and enjoy that Blazer fans “care” and in general we are a dedicated group. When we lose? The fanbase can become pretty angst filled. BUT…

I checked out the Detroit Bad Boys blog. Man it’s never been that bad here. The Blazers have faced adversity and bad spells, but I would say as a fanbase we’ve always maintained a safety net.

The Detroit Bad Boys blog has this real “We’re digging ditches in the Graveyard” feeling.

Maybe we should throw this game just to cheer them up? Man they need something.

It’s not just we have a lot to overcome….it’s we have a lot to overcome…and we have little chance of ever overcoming it….

I suppose we have to try beat these guys, but I almost feel sorry for them. Which as a competitor? Is a bad place to start.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Jan 20, 2012 11:32 PM PST reply actions  

Give them a Taco Hell coupon after the game

but I hope we bury them by the 3rd quarter and roll out the all scrub squad! Know what you mean though. We’re very fortunate.

by poorwebguy on Jan 20, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

The Pistons are dreadfully dull to watch.

Granted, I’ve felt this way for the past decade.

"There is nothing shrewd about running a red light and later finding out it kept you from being hit by an asteroid." - philofthenorth

by KeepItCopacetic on Jan 20, 2012 11:52 PM PST reply actions  

One bum down, 8 more to go in this...

stretch I am calling the most important stretch for the Blazers. The stretch that will define them. I still think if they get 7 or more wins they are a great team. 6 wins during this stretch and they are an good/decent team, 5 or less and they are not gonna get it done this year, likely miss the playoffs.

@#27 TORONTO WIN!

@#28 DETROIT

  1. SACRAMENTO
  1. MEMPHIS

@ #21 GOLDEN STATE

  1. PHOENIX

@ #12 UTAH

  1. CHARLOTTE

@ #22 SACRAMENTO

#s reflect Jeff Sagarin Power Rankings updated thru 1-20-11 games.

by Cjones10 on Jan 21, 2012 1:05 AM PST reply actions  

hmm apparently

a # coupled with a number makes a 1.

Should read vs. Sacramento who is 22, Memphis 13, Pho 18, Charlotte 29.

by Cjones10 on Jan 21, 2012 1:07 AM PST up reply actions  

If the Blazers win again,

LA gets some rest, and Nolan gets more playing time all the better for the team. Way to pressure that ball rookie. <3 the wingspan.
It is what is is, with the same plan again this year with bigs.

Go Blazers !!

just win baby !

by FrenchieFan on Jan 21, 2012 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

as a fan you take what you can get in the current season

and hope the FO makes the right choices to make the team better for the future. I have no real say in the decisions made by the Blazers organization and, as I’m in this primarily for entertainment, I try not to let my disappointment get too far past violent frustration and temporary insanity.

by poorwebguy on Jan 21, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks Dave

I’ve watched some snippets of Detroit games, and they are not fun to watch. Must be nearly as hard to write about them.

That being said, they can also be, to coin a phrase, “scrappy” and we need to take care of the ball, on our possessions and the many rebounds this game will probably yield.

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 21, 2012 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

I think LMA is going to beast again tonite, finally his spark might have turned into a conflagration!

Ray is finally hitting the long ball. This could be the start of our big winning streak if everyone can stay hot.

by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 21, 2012 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

A big factor: LMA seems to have let the idea of rebounding soak in

Last night was a career night, and we cant expect him to grab 20 or more rebs every game, but, he seems like he is going for the rebound way harder the last couple of games than I have ever seen him go.

by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 21, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe LMA gets back to february beastmode

he can start out feasting on some of this easy competition, and then hopefully once we get to the bigger games he’s got the offense trained to go through him.

by YoniRap on Jan 21, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

some of those rebounds were just beautiful

even took a couple from Camby! I’m still in shock…

by poorwebguy on Jan 21, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah he really went off

lets hope he keeps up this new found beast mode

by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 21, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking forward to seeing what LaMarcus is going to do for an encore....

I have a feeling he might be a little bit tired though….

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Jan 21, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Dave-- I think you should include in you game previews, the opposing team's "Blazer Killer"

You know, those 2nd or 3rd tier players that just seem to come out of nowhere and have fantastic games against the Blazers and would be an All-Star if they played the Blazers every night. I would name tonight’s Blazer Killer as Jonas Jerebko. Dang, I wish he was on our team. I love him! If he was in a Blazer uniform, I have no doubt he would be a Blazer fan favorite.

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Jan 21, 2012 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

that would actually be fun

also for any players on our team who seem to have some sort of vendetta against an opponent, like how wallace is a laker-killer

by YoniRap on Jan 21, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Blazers feel a bit happy?

Sorry, but i always feel nervous about trap games

Trust and look for each other

by Hermistonmelons on Jan 21, 2012 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

Game Prediction

Here’s my prediction for tonight’s game:

1) Blazers by <6
2) LaMarcus plays 40+ minutes (again)
3) Batum sees <18 minutes
4) Gerald plays 36 minutes and scores less than 10 points

After the game, McMillen says the players did “OK” seeing how the Detroit game was on a back-to-back. The team could’ve shown ‘more’ energy but got the job done. A win is a win. And going .500 on the road is OK coming back home.

by YKKWizard on Jan 21, 2012 2:25 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Nolan looks like he loves the rookie hazing.

Rookie locker…member them days
49 minutes ago via Echofon
Wesley Mathews

by Devyn on Jan 21, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Are those Beats by Dr. Dre he has on?

Johnson, Johnson, Smith, Smith, Thomas, Williams, and Babbitt: the Blazer's law firm.

by Doctor Worm on Jan 21, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...even on a rookie deal he can afford them

"What began as a credible protest against bank bailouts, crony capitalism and the like has, in large measure, been hijacked by crazies and criminals,"

by 92wastheyear on Jan 23, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

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