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Almost like clockwork, the Portland Trail Blazers reportedly held a players-only meeting following Wednesday night's loss to the Atlanta Hawks, the team's third loss out of four games so far on this current 6-game road trip.

Jason Quick of The Oregonian reports...
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Blazers hold players-only meeting after 92-89 loss at Atl. LaMarcus Aldridge asked that media be held out of locker room so team could talk. Talked with Aldridge, [Jamal] Crawford & [Wesley] Matthews. Gist of meeting was the players like each other so much they aren't holding one another accountable. The meeting comes after coach Nate McMillan tells the media that his team isn't playing hard enough.
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Here's his full report.

John Hollinger of ESPN.com reports...
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Blazer locker room closed for unusually long time after game. Said they were discussing some things, players and coaches.
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Chris Haynes of CSNNW.com reports...
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Players held a players only meeting after the game that lasted for roughly 5-10 mins before media was allowed in.
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The Blazers held a players only meeting following a third consecutive loss in November 2010. The meeting was followed by three additional road losses.

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Gist of meeting was the players like each other so much they aren’t holding one another accountable

I’m not sure what to say here.

But I’ll post my wife’s response to it: “Do they all want a trophy because they participated?”

Let’s hope this “problem” is fixed.

by Timmay! on Jan 18, 2012 8:44 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Last year the meeting was not because the players liked each other so much.

I seem to recall there was tension due to Brandon’s status…

Really think Matthews needs to come off the bench. Start Batum.

by Natsthecat on Jan 18, 2012 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

"I’m not sure what to say here."

It goes to show that talent > chemistry.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 18, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

5-10 mins?

Does this seem low for anyone else?

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Jan 18, 2012 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

They talk to each other every day

I presume this was to hash out immediate issues from the game. A little grumping, a little yelling, a little venting, then it’ll be discussed further over the next few days before the Toronto game.

by Timmay! on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

That's the way I see it.

Halftime breaks are longer than 5-10 mins. And they couldn’t solve any of their woes.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Jan 18, 2012 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The Felton jokes are tiring but

I can’t help but feel he just doesn’t care much to improve.

“Be patient”, “It’ll come” and etc.

A little passive IMO. His chip on his shoulder should be bigger, he should be relentless. Reason why he’s not nearly as good as DWill or CP3…. Just doesn’t have the desire to be better.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Jan 18, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Admittedly, not entirely but a little from them, yes.

A little from his interviews and a little from his play.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Jan 18, 2012 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

I think he really does want to be here and contribute at a level he knows how for a lot of the reasons, and maybe he is putting additional pressure on himself and pressing

by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I just dont see it.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

he has so many reasons to be motivated

1.) his own pride, because his been awful.
2.) he should be a major competitor at this level and want to win.
3.) if he really does like his teammates he should want to play better and not be an anchor, dragging the team down with him.
4.) he has never played on a quality playoff team, which the Blazers could be.
5.) it’s a contract year
6.) mention again that he has been awful

If those aren’t enough to motivate him, he should retire

by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I do think he's putting pressure on himself

He could be in a season-long slump, but his shooting should improve at some point.

by Timmay! on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree, I think he's trying his hardest. He's pressing, too.

Suffice it to say, though, his hardest just isn’t good enough.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 18, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You can't say thing like

“the chip on his shoulder should be bigger” and not expect a fat joke.

by AR-15 on Jan 19, 2012 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Could have fooled me. I thought the problem was having too many below average NBA players in the rotation. Silly me.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 18, 2012 8:48 PM PST reply actions  

but what about teams like utah and philly?

they seem to be doing fine with even less talent

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Jan 18, 2012 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

considering age and salary

absolutely. but talent wise, i think we have more at the moment

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Jan 18, 2012 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Their best player is as good as our second best player.

Top to bottom, they’re deeper; but then we’re deeper than Miami.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 18, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Iggy is significantly better than GW

Much better defender (Not that Gerald is a slouch there), and significantly more productive offensively this year if he keeps up his play. Based on this year’s play, he’s closer to Lamarcus than Gerald, to be honest.

by Royster on Jan 19, 2012 12:22 AM PST up reply actions  

He's proven in the past that he is capable of offensive brilliance, but he's never proven that he can be relied on night in and night out to lead your team in scoring

I think LA has proven he can be a first scoring option on a good team; until Iggy can at least pretend to be The Guy on offense, he’s not in that tier.

Iggy is a far better defender on the perimeter, but Gerald is the better help, team, and post defender, and a significantly better rebounder. Iggy balances it out with his vastly superior passing, so I’m calling it a wash for comparison’s sake. They’re really comparable players, and maybe Iggy’s a bit better, but not significantly.

Now, if this were a trade discussion, I’d take Iggy due to age, but that’s a different matter.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 19, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I would take AI and Jrue or Lou for Felton, Wes, GW, even Crawford.

by AP_18 on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Throw in Thad and newly improved Hawes + Vucevic who looks decent and that’s a hell of a team.

i keep dancing on my own.

by atomiccafe on Jan 18, 2012 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

So far, Utah has had an easy schedule.

The Jazz should come back to earth soon.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 18, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Marcus Camby and Kurt Thomas call the meeting?

Rhino?

Who has really been playing like they want to win?

by manfredi on Jan 18, 2012 8:49 PM PST reply actions  

I agree

Rhino has been playing great. So good I wouldn’t mind him starting over Kurt. Kurt is alright too, but he’s just old and I feel like more fit for a bench role.

by AR-15 on Jan 19, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I hope

Its a revolt against Nates sloppy, meaningless game coaching. There is absolutely no game plan. It’s whatever Nate is feeling that night. Get a system in place and utilize players strengths.

by Cabbol on Jan 18, 2012 8:51 PM PST reply actions  

That

Is the give away that Nate is all in his head when coaching. He just throwing things out rather then watching and understanding game flow and momentum. The guys is totally overrated. He has great and I mean great defensive players on this team and he is supposed be some kind of defensive genius and yet year after we are at best middle of the pack defensively. Let’s start looking past the hype and start question what exactly Nate is bringing to the table.

by Cabbol on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

There's a scheme in place both offensively and defensively.

Not saying they’re good schemes — in fact, I’ve blasted the defensive scheme numerous times here — but they’re schemes nonetheless.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 18, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait....

So years like the last few where we play slow paced game planned ball, FIRE NATE AND HIS BORING HALF COURT OFFENSE, LET OUR “GAZELLES” RUN! Now Nate does just that and we want him fired for that too, lol fans are crazy.

by AR-15 on Jan 19, 2012 12:14 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I really have no idea what Nate actually says to the team.

But I sure hope it is a lot more useful than ‘play harder’, ‘scrap’, ‘hit shots’,

by Berkeley on Jan 18, 2012 8:56 PM PST reply actions  

quick
The meeting comes after coach Nate McMillan tells the media that his team isn’t playing hard enough

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Jan 18, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate

Is an empty suit. Once you realize it all the peices start to fi together on this team. It’s why miller didn’t get along with him. He saw through the sarge persona. Got run out of town. Play harder, how about coach better.

by Cabbol on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate's criticism...

…is actually spot on. I know the compressed season is tough but top tier teams are finding wins in spite of it. The Blazers come out and typically plays the first half to 3 quarters like it’s a shoot around or scrimmage at best! This team needs to come out firing on all cylinders so that instead of pouring it on and trying to make a comeback in the final 12 minutes, they are choking the other team and driving nails into the coffin.

by Vorlauf on Jan 19, 2012 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

The new catch phrase...

seems to be “We need to play with a sense of urgency”.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Jan 19, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

It's evident this team isn't playing hard on a nightly basis

The reasons are not clear to me. I don’t think, for instance, it’s a lack of ability of our players compared to other team’s players. It just seems like they are not reaching down very deeply and they are getting pushed away from the rim by every team they play. Maybe they are just too weak. Maybe they don’t care enough. Last week I accused them of not playing at a fully professional level and I still think that’s true, even if I’m not sure what that means.

by oregonslee on Jan 18, 2012 8:57 PM PST reply actions  

The results of this player's only meeting should be better

They timed it right. Toronto and Detroit on the schedule next.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 PM PST reply actions  

Is that proper timing? You think you're a good team, you should of had it after Houston beat us.

What are they expecting to feel positive by barely winning against bad/mediocre teams? What does that say about them. They should be going hard at the playoff caliber teams….

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Jan 18, 2012 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It's great timing, I agree with Dave

It’s timed so that they have two cupcake opponents on the road.

Finish the trip at .500 with two good victories on the road, chalk it up to the meeting, then gain confidence as you go home.

by Timmay! on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

If that happens

they’re never, ever allowed to have a player’s only meeting again. Ever.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 18, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I came here to say this..

And not only for Tor and Det, but they should only lose 2 of the next dozen or so games…

“Sparked by LMA’s player’s only meeting”, sounds like early All-Star campaigning…

by Visionary1 on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Aren't holding one another accountable?

Maybe I’m jumping to conclusions, but this kind of gives me the feeling that they don’t feel like they have a leader on the court. I don’t see the team considering Aldridge the leader that he is and it’s starting to bother me.

by llamaiguana on Jan 18, 2012 9:20 PM PST reply actions  

I think that was the whole point of LMA calling the meeting

the team might have been a little rudderless, so he is stepping into the leadership role and letting them know whose team it is, at least, that’s what I am going to hope is going on

by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

meeting was called to perfect the facepalm offense

Make sure the only guy we have that can shoot consistently gets less than 20 shots.

Make sure Nate knows to pull anyone that hits 2 or more shots in a row.

Make sure the other team always has a double digit lead going into the 4th.

Above all make sure that absolutely nothing comes easy.

by poorwebguy on Jan 18, 2012 10:05 PM PST reply actions  

As much as I usually groan at players only meetings

I appreciate the message coming out of this one. This is a team that likes to encourage each other and high-five and be supportive. That’s great for players that don’t respond well to getting their butts chewed. But other guys need a kick in the pants. I think Ray is one of those guys. He came out of a game early in the season and told Camby to yell at him but of course no one did. It’s about time someone did some yelling.

Also I thought LMA had an excellent game. He shot the ball well and kicked the ball out leading to several WIDE open 3s. The best teams in the NBA typically shoot a lot of 3s and make a lot of 3s. We’ve got half of that equation down. 2 more made 3s in this game would bring the Blazers 3pt percentage up to 37% and possibly win the game.

On another topic, this is the 2nd time in 2 games that a stupid meaningless bucket at the end of the game cost me 10 pts in the Jersey contest. Jack for the Hornets with 2 FTs and Jamal with that layin at the buzzer tonight. Still it’s cool to have the Jersey contest results to sweat in a loss. Makes it a little more exciting for me.

by big_dl77 on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 PM PST reply actions  

This team is extremely talented and explosive

just look at how many games that we’ve either won or were in at the end where we only played well for a quarter or less.

That being said, they’ve been lacking something. I don’t know if its cohesion, or “fire”, or what. But whatever it is, I hope this meeting has an effect and gets us back to being the team we were at the beginning of the season.

I JUST WANT MY BASKETBALL BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Sean in Vancouver on Jan 19, 2012 12:03 AM PST reply actions  

Just as a side note...

Andre Miller’s line from the Denver, Sixers game…
MIN FG 3-Pts +/- Reb Ast ST TO Pts
A. Miller - 38:50 12-20 3-4 +18 0 8 10 2 3 28

I miss Dre.

The Blazers are the 'big brother' in this relationship

The little brother gets a new toy (all star) and the big brother has to go break it.

-----KFBR392

by JCLMA2k11 on Jan 19, 2012 8:29 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I had a bad feeling when we traded dre that

This team would have a hard time even making it too the playoffs. I didn’t expect felton to be this bad and I expect his shooting will improve, but he lacks the leadership, intelligence and winners mentality. I mean was Ray ever on a winning team? Remember all the lobs to lamarcus? Aldridge is trying his darndest this year but it would help if he had a point guard who could see the floor and dribble without looking at his hands. Dre is the man. No respect, no respect. I hope he leads denver to the finals.

by blazerbacker on Jan 19, 2012 9:11 AM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

don't worry, he won't

and we will make the playoffs. 7-2, everything’s rosy. 8-6, we’re all doomed. The truth lies somewhere in the middle

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Jan 19, 2012 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Dre will be another

1 and done to stay on par for his career. Great regular season guard though.

by AR-15 on Jan 19, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

They were calling me,

to stop me from kicking Mcgradys ars for the cheap shot at Nic :) Never have liked him.

Nice work LA, hopefully none of the players read or listen to the news in Portland, they need fan support. Help is not coming from the owner at center, they have to work it out themselves.

Go Blazers !!!!

just win baby !

by FrenchieFan on Jan 19, 2012 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

The offense is not efficient - too many players taking the wrong shot

Seemed like earlier in the year the team tried to play inside out more. LA did not really have his legs and they have gradually moved the offense farther and farther away from the hoop. Many teams take outside shots, but we take them with a hand in our face too often. The guards are playing a little selfish right now. Work the ball and you will get it back for an open shot. Felton is too short to make shots under duress.

by T.O. on Jan 19, 2012 9:47 AM PST reply actions  

The problem is that the starting lineup hasnt actually had a great first quarter since the Denver game .

You cant say you are an uptempo team and expect to win when you are simply not ready to play to start the game. Our intensity level for us to be a uptempo team is just way too low to start games .

As i said after the 3-0 start

Home games will insure we make the playoffs but road games will tell us how far this team can actually go.

Our starters who should be setting the tone have actually not come out and established any sort of consistency in anything really . Some of these teams would be folding if we came out sharp but we simply havent . Weve had the advantage in terms of rest and have basically squandered it .

Right now Felton should focus solely on defense , Pushing the tempo and setting his teammates up. Too much is made of a him scoring when we have others scorers.

In the starting lineup GW needs to go back to utility man and we should focus our offensive sets early on getting LA established on the block and Wes going off screens everyone elses offenses comes from how the defense adjusts to those things

by Willie Beamon on Jan 19, 2012 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

Forced shots are a huge problem for this team's offensive efficiency.

Too many times, late in the play clock, the team swings the ball around to GW for a corner 3. A very low percentage shot for him even when he is not up against it. Another thing driving me crazy is GW trying to lay the ball in after an offensive rebound when he has 3 defenders right next to him. He gets stuffed all the time when he tries it, and the ball gets turned over. During the NO game the other night, Craig Smith caught one such rebound, and I was so happy to see someone pass out off that situation. We lose out on many of our second chance opportunities because GW wants to makes something out of nothing. LMA does this too, but he can do what ever he wants as far as I am concerned; he gets his.

by solid_soup on Jan 19, 2012 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

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