FINAL: Atlanta Hawks 92, Portland Trail Blazers 89
by Timmay! on Jan 18, 2012 7:36 PM PST
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PrintLooking like a team on a six-game road trip, the Portland Trail Blazers fell short in Atlanta against the short-handed Hawks, losing by 3. Marcus Camby was dressed tonight but did not play, but the big story was the loss of Nicolas Batum, who left for the hospital for x-rays due to a left eye injury before halftime (details below).
Jamal Crawford, returning to Atlanta, led the Blazers in scoring with 22, Raymond Felton led in assists (8), and LaMarcus Aldridge led in rebounding (11) while adding 20 points for a double-double.
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Mini-Recap
Remember the first half against New Orleans, where we all talked about trying to forget it? The Blazers forced us to have flashbacks in the first half tonight. They had no alibi, they were ugly, and the Hawks led by 9 at the half. To make matters worse, the aforementioned Batum was poked in the eye, then headed to the locker room and, shortly after, the hospital for x-rays.
Portland heated up to start the third quarter, scoring the first nine points to cut the lead to one. Atlanta tried to push the lead back up, but Aldridge kept the Blazers close. With a nice pass from Felton to the Rhino, the Blazers finally captured the lead. Then they ran out of energy again, as a Tracy McGrady three-point play bumped the lead to 13 on a 14-0 run to finish the third.
Both teams play to a standstill at the start of the fourth, but the Blazers break through when a Wallace layup cut the lead to 8, and Atlanta needed a timeout. Before you knew it, Crawford and Kurt Thomas pulled the Blazers into a tie, completing a 13-0 run! But after the Blazers took a quick lead, Joe Johnson wrested control of the game, hitting a three for a 4-point lead. Portland stayed close, still within 2 at the two minute mark. But it wasn't enough, as Blazer turnovers and missed free throws helped throw the game away.
The box score is here, but you're not missing much. Stay tuned for Dave's recap, and we'll see you in Friday night's game thread, as the Blazers are in Toronto. Hang in there everyone. -- Tim
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GRRRRRRRRRumpy
I don't always root for an NBA franchise, but when I do, I prefer the Portland Trail Blazers.
by Oh. Em. Gee. on Jan 18, 2012 7:37 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
stronger. faster. better.
I don't always root for an NBA franchise, but when I do, I prefer the Portland Trail Blazers.
by Oh. Em. Gee. on Jan 18, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
They made the decision when Brandon retired
They’re in hybrid rebuild, as they try to stay in the playoffs while getting under the cap.
we're pretenders....
i think that much seems obvious…. hoping for something big before the trade deadline
So are these games where we come out looking slow and lethargic on purpose?
Are these the games where we get our “rest”?
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Would you rather be a 7 or 8 seed and lose in the first round
or be in the lottery?
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Depends.
If we’re going to be the 9-10 seed in the west and barely miss the play-offs it wouldn’t be worth being in the lottery.
by Jonathan Wright on Jan 18, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
charles barkely quote(from a few years ago, and I feel like the last 5 years)
“they can’t win shooting jump shots”
a move must be made....
that’s all there is to it….. there’s no consistency…… at least jamal has shown the ability to heat up…. felton is killing the team…. he can’t score…. he just can’t…. until he shows the ability to get to 14 points…. what are you gonna do!? he seems useless to me..
He got 8 assists and 1 turn over.
Johnson, Johnson, Smith, Smith, Thomas, Williams, and Babbitt: the Blazer's law firm.
lamarcus looked PISSED
while walking back to the bench. i hope he goes off on some people for lack of effort and stupid play.
PHILLY!
Needs to start with himself.
He needs to start playing hard and in the paint. He had J Smith on him and wasn’t punishing him until late…
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
But more seriously,
BBIQ. You need to know when you have the advantage over the other team.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
goes right back to guards just being DUMB
it’s especially painful after watching dre and brandon over the past few years.
PHILLY!
Our backcourt lost about 100pts of collective BBIQ in the last off-season
Tell me again why we traded Miller?
by RenoBlazerFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, what's sad is that Jamal Crawford is probably the best guard
when it comes to setting up the big man down low. Back before the season, I disagreed with people who said LMA was going to miss Andre and Rudy. I was wrong. Dead wrong.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
who do you think wasn't putting forth the effort?
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
yup
not sure geralds the answer… hop nic’s okay…. cause if gerald can bring that energy at a rate of above 50% of the time…. well then he shouldn’t be starting… cause his jumper certainly isn’t helping anyone
Watching him brick those last 2 FT's was the saddest thing for me to see.
It kinda tells me where he’s at. He wants badly to be That Guy, but sadly falls a little short.
I'll give you that, but historically he's a poor FT shooter in the clutch.
I knew he’d at least miss one. Wish he would surprise me sometime.
he's usually played about 40 minutes by then
and unfortunately the only guy that can consistently get things done for us offensively.
sadly, i have to agree.
Was he “the guy” in college? Maybe he just doesn’t know how to be the alpha dog,
#52
not really
they had this PF, i forget his name, “PJ something.” he seemed like their leader.
as did daniel gibson somewhat.
LA kinda got killed in the tournament by Ty Thomas and Big Baby. only reason why he didn’t go #1 in 06.
PHILLY!
so maybe he's never been the leader of a team, doesn't know how to accept it or how to lead.
Roy used to say he always wanted the ball, wanted to make the big shot. I wonder if LA talks like that? Does he let his teammates know he wants to take the big shot? Makes it hard with a player like Jamal i guess, taking all the shots, not looking to pass, just not being a passer in general.
We have some growing pains to get through.
#52
The team's identity has never been stable since we drafted Roy and Aldridge.
On the one hand, Roy was a top 10 player who could perform miracles on a pretty consistent basis but at the expense of the other teammate’s production or involvement. And now maybe Aldridge is too teammate oriented?
agreed
and head straight for the rim if he sees any space at all
who he needs to go off on is Nate
When they look this tired and no effort, he needs to go to the bench for a spark.
what are we going to get two loses in one game?
at least the young guys get some playing time.
Gerald's effort is the main reason we came back early in the 4th
He just can’t make shots but that was everyone. Crawford I thought played well but 7-20 ain’t gonna cut it.
by blazerbacker on Jan 18, 2012 7:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
eh he looks pretty awful
unless its a wide open transition layup.. but who is going to miss those…
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
on offense I mean
his defense seems pretty deec
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
Felton lol
But seriously. Crash is a guy that you kind of expect to be up and down, but always putting in effort. You don’t get him to be a guy who consistently goes out there and makes offense happen. There’s a reason he had his best season (and the Cats made the playoffs) during the Steven Jackson honeymoon period.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
I don't understand the lack of road production
His game seems to be of a kind that would translate as well on the road as at home
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Jan 18, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
It is borderline depressing watching the Blazers' total lack of fire or competitive spirit
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
The question was asked in the other thread if Portland plays Atlanta again.
Yes, February 18th at home.
"I Am Mine"
trade wallace
His flat shooting is going to make me crazy
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
by tylercomp on Jan 18, 2012 7:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
A good team would have won that game
Atlanta wasn’t doing anything out there tonight
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Updated the post for individual stats, and to correct grammatical and tense errors
Sorry about that, recaps on the fly always end up with weird problems at first.
Part of me knows this team has deeper problems, and I do want this team to start rebuilding, but how much different would these
past few games have gone had Felton made his 3 pointers?
I think the past couple games he’s missed a wide open 3 pointer for Portland to take a lead. Those are the shots that can be the difference between 3-0 and 0-3 on a trip. Those are the shots Brandon Roy made. That was the difference.
Trade Wallace and Felton for Conley and Mayo.
OJ Mayo could solve all of this team’s offensive issues and Mike Conley doesn’t suck.
Batum Shakalaka
why oh why...
would the grizzlies do that!?….
Because they are nice :)
CMON man, let me dream.
Batum Shakalaka
This is sad
Its so hard to watch us on the road. When we need size why don’t we play CJ? Oh well almost 500 its still early in the year.
Alright guys, Im ready for a rebuild.
Nico and LMA are untouchable, but Wesley is touchable now IMO. Trade Felton, Camby, Wallace, etc. for high picks and OJ MAYO PLZ
Batum Shakalaka
Untouchable?
maybe LMA barring we get offered Rose, Griffin, LeBron, Durant, etc.
But Batum? a role player should never be untouchable
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Yeah, I like Aldridge, but is he really a guy you can build around?
I mean, he’s no Dirk. If LA made the jump completely, say a guy averaging 25 and 10, then yeah, for sure.
Well some people on here think he is the second coming of LeBron James
you will get banned for criticizing anything he does
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Haha, I wonder sometimes when you don't show up for a while
And I know I’d have had a couple warnings.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Mayo would be a nice pick up, I mean damn they were gonna trade him for McRoberts, we could give them better than that
yup. Thats what Ive been saying all along.
Mayo is a star who hasnt gotten the opportunity to show it. If we could get him as cheap as Josh McRoberts, i dont see how we dont jump on it.
Batum Shakalaka
If we get OJ
Gotta make sure to ban gambling on the plane. It’s a long way from Portland to the other cities.
by Sheed'sTowel on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
I'd trade Nic for a lottery pick in a heartbeat
Nic is a glue guy. Role player. Maybe a 3rd or 4th option on a contending team.
by FPS NorthWest on Jan 18, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
When is it time to blow this thing up?
Does anyone truly believe this core can ever make a run at a title?
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
I miss dre
I miss dre
I miss dre
I miss dre
etc etc
by blazerbacker on Jan 18, 2012 7:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Yeah his 28 point double double tonight is definitely salt in the wound.
Tell me again why we traded Miller?
by RenoBlazerFan on Jan 18, 2012 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
won the game for them too in the last minute with back to back buckets
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
Felton isn't fit to clean dre's sneakers.
I don’t understand how anyone could have seen him as an upgrade. Tired of waiting for him to “get in game shape” or whatever. Dude is only 27 years old and can’t stay in shape. He’ll be out of the league before dre retires, mark my words.
by blazerbacker on Jan 18, 2012 7:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
I don't think anyone honestly saw him as an upgrade
Except a few folks who hoped he’s shore up our three point shooting, which has definitely not panned out.
Ray Felton was a year’s rental on a PG the Blazers hoped might complement their core. So far it’s been unsuccessful. But it’s no worse than keeping Andre for a season then watching him walk.
"no worse"
are you kidding me? watching felton run our offense into the ground is giving me heartburn.
PHILLY!
yeah it is
because if we weren’t trying to win games this year we would have already traded Wallace for picks and never would have signed Crawford. Clearly trying to be good in 2011-12 was a goal.
i keep dancing on my own.
Yeah, somebody in the front office misjudged Ray Felton's talent level.
Honestly, I’m all for a house cleaning after this season. Paul Allen isn’t Jim Irsay, though.
"I Am Mine"
yeah
and if we were just trying to start fresh, why not keep Hamilton instead of trading him for Felton?
i keep dancing on my own.
We'll get at least a partial house-cleaning this offseason
I’m nearly convinced of that. Wesley, Nic and LMA will return, and that’s about it.
They gave Felton a run and unless he turns it around, it was unsuccessful. Not that he stinks as much as everyone complains about, but man, his shooting, ouch.
It'll be interesting to see what degree of house cleaning.
One-and-done in the playoffs again might not lead to a thorough enough sweep. Part of me believes missing the postseason altogether is what’s needed for Paul Allen to get it through his thick skull that this team can’t compete for a title.
"I Am Mine"
I'm pretty convinced PA knows he needs to rebuild.
But I suspect he’s not sure how far to go. He has a core that can make the playoffs but not contend. And it’s no secret PA wants a trophy. Not sure where things will go after this season.
I suspect the Blazers would love to trade Crash for a couple first-rounders this year
Especially if that four-first-rounders (overall) offer is on the table.
Making the playoffs was also most definitely a goal
Feels like they want to make playoffs to keep attendance up, while signing short contracts so they can clear cap space. I’m not sure “good” was a goal for the season, more “good enough”, IMO.
I’m worried that the goal of making the playoffs will get in the way of a good deadline trade. Though, if we’re within a top-four seed, they may just say “let’s go for it” and take on salary. So hard to say.
5-9 seed is still where the Blazers are, nothing's really changed
and short of something pretty drastic that’s where they’ll end up.
i keep dancing on my own.
I don't disagree with any of that.
But it’ll depend on other teams in the West, and how this team gels. Things are such a freaking mess in the West.
"Feels like they want to make playoffs to keep attendance up"
True, and I can’t blame them for that.
Selling tickets is important; plus, there are many easily duped fans who wrongly thought this team could contend with just so-so talent.
"I Am Mine"
Seems like we were planning on starting over from the PG spot
next season no matter what, given that both Felton and Andre are in contract years. Felton was at least young enough to potentially provide a little more long-term stability if everything worked out with him. It seems pretty clear that it hasn’t so far, but at least it’s not like we’re committed there.
That's kind of my assumption
They had no other real options, it was pretty clear Andre wasn’t staying (and he was aging either way), and the Blazers took a chance on the best available PG. If it worked out, woo hoo! If it didn’t, it didn’t hurt their long term plans either way, and only affects this season.
yeah, that's fine
but I think it was foreseeable that Felton wasn’t a long term solution, and we could have had a year of superior point guard play plus a nice prospect instead of Felton. I like Hamilton a lot.
i keep dancing on my own.
the scary thing is
after deron, dre, and nash, there are no other starting PGs out there this summer.
PHILLY!
With Andre, the Blazers were probably sure they had no long-term solution
With Raymond, the Blazers had a slim chance (not working out so far) that they had a possible long-term solution.
So really, they’re no worse off at the end of the season.
I get that Felton is disappointing, especially when Andre had a good night, but this is probably accepted as a “lost season” internally (not that they’d ever admit it) and they’re throwing a few things at the wall hoping something sticks. Unfortunately it’s all peeling off and falling to the ground, and collecting fuzz.
there are always George Hill types
who do an OK job on the cheap. And young points have been doing awesome the last 4 years, contrary to our track record.
i keep dancing on my own.
Yep.
I’m pretty disappointed none of our PG draftees have panned out so far.
I’m not sure if this is a drafting problem, a Nate problem, or a little of both. But it’s disappointing, when at least a few teams have found steals late in the draft.
I'd forgotten about that
Definitely one of the more depressing non-trades at the moment.
Oh that's just unfortunate
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
Who said Dre would walk
If we treated him right in Portland? He could have made a nice backup PG option later on; you know, like Denver is enjoying now
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
That's Dre being Dre Timmay
Miller is ultra competitive and has always played with a chip on his shoulder. Its not easy being a starter for 13 years then being relegated to the bench. He never criticized his teammates just stated he thought he was still a starter. His statement means nothing Dre has always been a good teammate
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
No worse?
Lol Dre had 28 points, 10 ast and 8 Reb against 10-3 Philly on the road. He literally carried them to victory.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
But thats not the point
Andre would never lead anybody to a title because he’s not a #1 option. Never has been. So I dont get that statement, Do we just sign #1 options because everyone else wouldn’t “lead” there teams to a title? I think the cap would prevent that lol
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
I'm saying the Blazers took a chance on a young player, knowing Andre wasn't in the long term plans
It’s not working out so far, and we’re stuck watching it. And so it goes.
Thats a statement I can accept
Unlike the one above that’s never made sense to me.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
I'm not saying I'm thrilled watching Felton instead of Andre
I miss Andre every game.
I’m saying I understand why the Blazers made this call, even if I’d rather watch Andre.
(I probably haven’t made that clear)
Thats fine
I just hate when people view Miller’s lack of playoff success and attribute that to Miller. I’m pretty sure that Miller on more talented squads could have ‘lead’ his teams to a championship; although he wouldn’t have really ‘lead’ them because he would have been their #1 option. Pretty sure Dre is better than Dennis Johnson, Avery Johnson, Mo Cheeks, BJ Armstrong etc.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
I don't think we can compare this Blazer team to ones with Bird, Jordan, Duncan, Malone/Erving, etc.
I don’t think Miller would have made the difference this season. If we were exceedingly lucky, his veteran experience would get us through another round.
And to be clear, I like Andre. I mean this as a statement about the team as a whole.
I think its VERY close
Miller’s PER and assist average are just so much better than Johnson’s. Dennis Johnson was only much better on defense, being first or second team NBA like 10 times. Both were poor long distance shooter, but Dre’s PER trumps Jonshon by like 4.5 points – a huge difference.
I’d take Miller and his about avergae career defense over Johnson’s much better defense but vastly inferior offense and passing numbers.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
Haha
Well played Sir.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
Correction
Miller’s PER is 3.4 points better than Johnson in 108 less career games.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
I like PER, but it doesn't account for defense.
Dre is a so-so defender, while D.J. was a premier defender.
"I Am Mine"
he has to put together a stretch where he plays to his career averages right?
he didn’t just sit on the couch all lockout, did he
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
I actually do expect him to turn it around at some point this season
At least his shooting should bounce back. Not the first time we’ve watched a Blazer in a shooting slump to start a season recently.
That would be pretty dumb
In a contract year. Surprised Felton wasnt in tip-top shape to start the season with so much guaranteed money at stake.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
I'm also disappointed that Felton didn't seem more prepared to start the season.
I am worried his slow shooting start is related to his conditioning as well.
I do miss watching Andre
Wonder how Felton would do with a different coach. Heard LaMarcus called a players only meeting with Matthews and Crawford after the game..something about the team liking each other so much they aren’t holding each other accountable on the court…sounds about right…
If andre had been treated with a little more respect
He’d probably retire as a blazer.
by blazerbacker on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Haven't you heard?
Point gaurding aint easy!
by OfficerCosta on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Man, bad luck for Nic on that replay.
Frustrating that ATL doesn’t have an X-Ray onsite. There should be an automatic $20K fine for that.
Most teams have HORRIFIC road records, so far, if it makes anyone feel better.
This compressed schedule and lack of training camp has been tough for nearly everyone.
Tell me again why we traded Miller?
Yeah I'm not really sweating this trip, despite losing two winnable games.
It doesn’t mean I think we’re a contender, but an early road trip can be ugly even in a non-compressed season.
Don't know...isn't it the coach's job to ensure his players are prepared?
The players definitely don’t look prepared, or even interested, save LA. Plus, heavy minutes logged again. Don’t understand why CJ isn’t getting more run, especially with Camby out.
Never been impressed by McMillan. Thought he was making a change this year, but guess I was mistaken.
by OmoriumVerum on Jan 18, 2012 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Nate will never change
He will never play young players. He will play our guys into the ground before he plays the rooks. So why do we keep trying to build through the draft ?
I can live with Jamal chucking...sometimes
what I have trouble with in general is Felton. I really hoped he’d do well but he’s getting past the point of no return here. I want Dre back!
Why was Jamal acting PG when Nolan was in?
What in the hell else is Nolan good for?
Why would you need to XRay nic’s eyeball?
and finally…If we’re gonna shoot horribly and it’s blatantly obvious so early, why not drop EMail and see what he can do?
whatever…booty
Nolan was initiating the offense
from what I saw, eventually the ball would swing to Jamal and stop there because he was hot there, until Felton came in and played the role of the cooler
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Technically no pictures in a GDT, but I'm not sweating it tonight, it's not insane here.
Just a quick reminder.
by Timmay! on Jan 18, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry Tommay
I didnt know that. I thought pictures werent allowed in game threads only. My bad.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
The Cooler?
Tell me again why we traded Miller?
by RenoBlazerFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah it's 'The Cooler'
Saw the movie awhile ago and its pretty good. Got the Greek movie poster by accident.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
MARIA BELLO YUM
OSU '06
GForce Crash Wallace FTW!
by TyboOSU on Jan 18, 2012 8:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Regarding Williams
My best guess is that he’s either being outplayed by Smith in practice, or he’s shown he doesn’t shine when running the offense.
we need Camby
so everyone can go back to playing their position
Nolan played well though, minus the one time he thought he would do a heat check
yah missing camby and batum
makes everyone else very tired
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
So over this.
As fans, we talk over and over about this team, we get so worked up. I just can’t stand seeing the same problems every game and wonder if the team sees the same problems. My goodness, our play is just plain sad. How can this team feel okay with this?!
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
it's been a rough road trip, but nearly everyone is struggling on the road right now.
As soon as we string together 3 wins, all this gloom n doom will be over. I think the team has been flat on this trip, and no one seems to be able to make a basket, except LMA and Nico. I still believe Wallace is a good fit for this team, and we’ll start making buckets again. My only real concern so far is Felton. Can’t make a basket, horrible bad-timed turnovers, etc. It’s no secret I’m a huge Miller fan, so it’s killing me that Felton isn’t even playing like an NCAA point guard so far.
Tell me again why we traded Miller?
by RenoBlazerFan on Jan 18, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly, I'm tired of being positive.
I need to see it from the team, plain and simple.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
thats how blazers fans roll
no sunshine in portland so we all get bipolar. Win = Yay! Lose = Grrrrr
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
For me, It's effort.
Wins are great and losses suck but effort is applauded.
For instance, the win against the Hornets wasn’t not ideal.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
What ever happened to RUNNING?
If Im not mistaken, that was working.
Batum Shakalaka
I can't argue with Nate's postgame comments tonight
It’s the usual stuff, but he’s correct. Play with urgency, not hitting shots, etc.
The team looks tired IMO.
I think we are having to spend a lot of energy to secure rebounds
without Camby
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
So where's CJ. Our high-energy springboard?
Sometimes Nate’s decision-making boggles my mind.
by OmoriumVerum on Jan 18, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
He should definitely be getting 10-15 minutes without Camby
Tell me again why we traded Miller?
by RenoBlazerFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
there is a reason why he is not playing
he is not very good, only thing he brings is some occasional help side defense and some rebounding
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Nate's full of it.
His rotations and subs are also hurting the team…
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
What part of coaching is Nate good at?
Can’t sub well
Can’t develope players
Can’t find half court offense (without roy)
The problem is simply that there's not enough talent.
If guys like Larry, Chad, and Nate don’t see that, then they need to be fired.
Paul Allen needs to go Jim Irsay on this franchise, but I don’t think he’s smart enough to know that.
"I Am Mine"
No word
But the Blazer Broadcasting team isn’t convinced it’s a big deal, he only went to the hospital because the arena didn’t have an X-ray machine.
Why would you X-ray your eyeball?
I assume he has a fractured eye socket???
My guess is that x-ray machines are more readily available than MRIs
First step is to x-ray asap. Me thinks.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Yeah seems precautionary
But x-rays normally check for broken bones, so concerns about a fractured eye socket are reasonable.
But X-rays were negative, so no problem there.
What kind of NBA arena doesn't have an x-ray machine on a game night?
Probably a ploy so that opposing teams HAVE to pull potentially injured players for the rest of the game.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjSe1Y-l3e0
Think about it. CMON. Hes a stud!
Batum Shakalaka
What's become obvious is that Felton is not a starting caliber PG
His passing and court vision just aren’t there. At best he sees half the floor. At worst he’s staring at his weird handles. I think he’s yet another undersized shooting guard who’s had to adapt to the 1 due to his size. It’s beyond the stats, too. So many of his passes are just not timed and delivered as they should be, especially to bigs. LMA is dealing with some weird passes and often loses his advantage gathering them. Watch more closely if you haven’t noticed.
I don’t care whether his shooting comes around. He’s at best a backup, change of pace PG. When your star is a big, this won’t work.
by BaylessFace on Jan 18, 2012 7:58 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
+1
i’m becoming legitimately concerned about this teams future….. i wish we still had a healthy roy :(
I don't see many nice setups for easy bucket when Felton assists
Sometimes he makes a nice dish & drive, but most assists are half-assed penetrations for a long low percentage jumper. Not alley-oops or lobs inside 8 feets for easy basket. Just assists on long jumpers and occassional nice dribble drives.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
He doesn;t get the ball into the bigs hands in optimal position
like somebody who shall remain nameless who recently played the position here.
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
Dissapointed but not mad
From the start I expected this team to be a borderline playoff team. I was almost caught up in the great start like everyone else but I still had doubts and unfortunatley those doubts look valid.
by neutroticblazerfan on Jan 18, 2012 8:02 PM PST reply actions
I'm mad
Atlanta tried to give this game away and we stunk up the place. This is a game the Blazers should have one as poorly as the Hawks played.
wake me in 2012
grrrrrr.....won not one ROFL
wake me in 2012
Trail Blazers @pdxtrailblazers 1m
Batum back from hospital. X-rays negative. Says he’s seeing double, feels pressure on his eye, but said it isn’t serious. Recheck in 3 days
wake me in 2012
so is he out for 3 days
or will he be sporting some sweet goggles?
The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!
what if he is still seeing double?
could be funny
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Every made trey should count for six points.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
ala Horace Grant? Get some sweet white goggles
Tell me again why we traded Miller?
by RenoBlazerFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone watching the current game?
Clippers are so fun to watch, especially after suffering through the Blazers game.
- Sam
and they've been doing it without Paul for a few games...
Tell me again why we traded Miller?
by RenoBlazerFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
WE NEED SOME SHOOTERS
there, I’m done complaining
the biggest need is a point gaurd
Mayo, Okafer, and augustin are some players who could probably be had for not too much…. we need to start looking towards the future… and players with potential… who can possibly blossom in the next couple of years
ive said this before, but our biggest blunder was the 09 draft
where so many PGs were available for trade and we sat on our hands and got stuck with claver.
i would kill for every one of those guys ahead of victor at the moment (even maynor).
PHILLY!
Oh that's just a quadruple whammy right there
Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB
Throwing away a 1st-round pick on Claver was unforgivable,
arrogant, stupid — and it seemed so at the time.
ignacio
That was one of my least favorite picks
I remember being shocked at that decision. It seemed a little lazy.
Claver might still work out, but I’d rather grab someone who could contribute now, even if it involved trading to move up.
His foot is keeping him from being productive. So really not looking like a good pick...
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
Before being injuried he looked pretty good. Decent upside but he wasn't coming over nor was he ready to
I know we had Bayless but it would have been better to have a pick that could play stateside.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
The problem isn’t just Claver, it’s that the draft hasn’t netted a rotation player in three years. San Antonio pulls like two every three years.
i keep dancing on my own.
Omri Casspi was a better player at the time, and is today.
He was a ROY candidate in 09-10, and wouldn’t have fallen off of a cliff had he not been forced to play two seasons under Paul Westphal, and now Byron Scott.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Look at the next few picks.
23 Omri Casspi
24 Byron Mullens (traded to Oklahoma City)
25 Rodrigue Beaubois (traded to Dallas)
26 Taj Gibson
27 DeMarre Carroll
28 Wayne Ellington
29 Toney Douglas (traded to New York)
ignacio
Ya
you have one of the best 6th men this year, a potential All-Star this year, a starter on a playoff team shooting well from 3, one of the best backup PG’s who is backing up one of the best PG in the game and a starting PG… and then Claver… when Claver and Freeland and Greg and… and…
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Timmay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hubby insists that I go watch a movie with him so if you have time to leave me a message I’ll look for it here later. Thanks for looking into this for me but I don’t want to take up a lot of your time. Thanks again!
#52--------I believe in Greg Oden
J Quick:
Talked w/Aldridge, Crawford & Matthews. Gist of meeting was the players like each other so much they aren’t holding one another accountable
This is just silly.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
That way they can go back to hating each other?
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
Being friends can't compensate for a lack of talent.
This is why I hate the word “chemistry” when it comes to sports.
"I Am Mine"
Chemistry doesn't always involve "friendship" though
It can also mean complementing on the court, while being unselfish.
friendship is great but this type of chemistry is what I want.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
"It can also mean complementing on the court"
That’s what I call cohesion. I’m all for players who fit together as a unit.
They can hate one another’s guts for all I care, though.
"I Am Mine"
Depends on the individual, and the team
Ideally, on a team of professionals, it wouldn’t matter. But ish happens, so it does matter.
Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
chemistry is a thing that exists in team sports...
it tends to be a cop out though for lack of talent
by Peteyhasnohead on Jan 18, 2012 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
I don't deny that cohesion is necessary to some extent in sports like basketball and ...
football, but it’s an ancillary issue. I’d take a talent-laden, yet incohesive pairing of LeBron James and Dwyane Wade over a talentless, yet complementary pairing — skill set wise I mean — of Jamal Crawford and Raymond Felton.
"I Am Mine"
If Batum is really hurt
I think i’m gonna go all superstitious……….because he just had his 2 best games!
ignacio
I've
Been asking this for years, but what is Nates system? How does he fit players in to a system? What does he expect from his team? What are the roles of players? Why is nates d always bad yet his rep good? The problem is Nate. He has never had a plan. He roles too whatever will give him the best chance to win right now. Great coaches, no matter what sport play for the long term. If you believe in a player long term then you play that player even if another might seem better right now. Nate has no long term plan. It’s just make shots, hustle. It’s getting old.
"Been asking this for years, but what is Nates system?"
Are you talking schematically? If so, it’s been discussed.
"I Am Mine"
Nate has no system.
I wish the Blazers would just go ahead and hire Mike Budenholzer. Offer a ton of $$ and get it done.
How
Does he fit his players into his so called system? What are each players role. Does batum nomwhat is expected of him? How about cj? Or the 5 players at the end of the bench? I think this team is confused. Just as miller was. Nate doesn’t define roles, he just motivated. Hit shots, hustle, play hard. Meaningless.
Like I said what is Nate good at ?
I am still waiting for someone to tell me
I think Nate was a good player and gets respect based on that alone.
We're literally 1/2 a game out for being out of the playoffs.
Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.
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