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Game 12 Recap: Portland Trail Blazers 105, Houston Rockets 107 (OT)

In a Nutshell

In a game uglier than a Sam Cassell mugshot the Blazers ride any hot hand available and try to weather crazy offense by Houston's guards and mean rebounding by Rocket big men. Despite the lackluster effort a few minutes of classic Portland defense and a small talent advantage are enough to push the game into overtime where Houston's guards have the last laugh.

Game Flow

Ugh. You really want to know? OK.

The Blazers opened the game trying to get the ball inside--or at least farther inside than they normally get it--against Houston's weak interior defense. They had some success, even getting center Samuel Delambert in foul trouble. You'd have thought the sailing would be smooth after that, but the Blazers started drifting farther outside with every possession. Their only attempts at interior play were some missed lay-ins by LaMarcus Aldridge off of awkward moves and a couple of botched attempts at posting by Gerald Wallace who didn't even get as far as Aldridge did. After that it was outside offense, usually bailing out to a guard for a contested, desperation jumper against the shot clock. Unsurprisingly the percentage was low. Meanwhile Kyle Lowry ripped apart Portland's defense in every way conceivable as the guards were unable to cover him and the bigs unable to rotate fast enough. Only a couple of threes by Nicolas Batum kept the Blazers afloat in the period. Houston led 27-21 at the end of one.

The second period saw the Blazers go with a real post threat in Craig Smith who, while lacking the overall talent of an Aldridge or Wallace, at least knows how to use his body in close with his back close to the basket. Smith's early probes showed that Houston's interior defense does indeed stink, so he happily waltzed his way to 10 points in the period. Batum continued his heroics, not only dropping a dozen points on the Rockets but blowing up a couple of their fast breaks with last-second swats of layups. Sadly Batum couldn't redeem all Portland's mistakes. Since nobody else besides him got back in transition and the Rockets were feasting on the boards the Blazers nearly got run out of the building. Houston opened up a 14-point lead but Batum sprayed the fire with his three-point extinguisher once again, actually leaving the Blazers ahead a point in the second quarter tally and only down 5 at the half.

The third period looked to be Portland's turn-around time when the team attacked the lane early for a host of short shots, layups, and drawn fouls. They took the lead midway through the quarter but once again Houston's guards--Lowry, this time joined by Kevin Martin--hit shots on the other end. Portland could never control the boards and thus couldn't sustain any tempo or dominance. The Blazers also got away from the lane as the period progressed, just as they had in the first half. That let Houston take the quarter and an 8-point lead into the final stanza.

Finally the Blazers woke up in the fourth quarter, forcing turnovers and rebounding the dang ball. As Portland's defense got more energetic Lowry's options became fewer and he began to freeze up. His shot went cold and the Blazers feasted on quick layups, open threes, and free throws. Portland pulled ahead and stayed there until the 1:40 mark of the period. Though their lineup featuring Batum, Aldridge, and Wallace had played well they also coughed up some silly turnovers trying to make moves not in their arsenal. When push came to shove none of them seemed to want the ball for critical shots. That left Wesley Matthews trying to fill the void. He hit 1 shot in the last couple minutes of the game but missed 2 more. Meanwhile Houston's guards rose like zombies from the grave, Lowry dishing to Martin for a layup and then hitting a three of his own. The latter shot put Houston up 2 but Aldridge canned a mid-range jumper and Lowry missed the game-winner. This game was going into overtime, tied at 97.

The overtime featured more missed shots, more scrambling for rebounds, more semi-ugly play. The difference was that Houston scored all their points in the lane or from the free throw line while the Blazers either turned over the ball or shot jumpers. Portland played hard but there wasn't enough gas in the tank. When the horn sounded the Rockets walked off the court ahead by 2 with the "W" in their pocket, 107-105.

Take-Away Points

The Blazers' rebounding is bad without Marcus Camby. Team effort is great but you need an anchor in the middle around which to rally. That was absent tonight. The Rockets looked confident going for every board. They didn't get all of them, of course, but they bumped Portland out of plenty. During the streaks the Blazers did rebound they prospered but those were too few.

I don't even know what to say about Portland's guard defense right now. Martin and Lowry just took turns picking on whomever they wished...Raymond Felton often ending up the butt of their jokes. Portland's big men are willing to help but again without Camby, how much can they give? They're responsible for their own men, for rebounding, and for offense. Portland's guards have to do more than shoot and occasionally run off of steals. If Houston's guards were a disease tonight they'd have caused a pandemic. Their Blazer counterparts just couldn't contain them.

You love the heroic individual efforts by Batum and Smith but the Blazers needed those astonishing (and to this point nearly unprecedented) bursts of offense to avoid being blown out by a Houston team not known for looking as good as the Blazers made them look tonight. This team needs to do a little soul searching before they hit New Orleans on Monday.

Individual Performances

LaMarcus Aldridge was great on the offensive boards tonight, grabbing 7 and scoring off of a couple immediately. He had only 3 defensive boards. He also got pushed off of the block repeatedly by Houston defenders, missed jumpers, and got decidedly non-aggressive when his shots didn't fall. He went 7-21 for 22 points off of 8-10 foul shots with 5 assists and 2 blocks but that stat line was probably more shiny that his game.

Gerald Wallace also struggled to get into the offense. He was able to convert some straight-line drives but anything else might as well have been quantum physics. Anyone who thinks Wallace is a straight post-up player in any sense of the word should review his possessions from this game. He's not. 4-12, 10 points, 8 rebounds.

Kurt Thomas nabbed 7 rebounds in his 20 minutes filling in for Camby. Nice enough.

Wesley Matthews scored 5 points on 2-8 shooting with 2 rebounds and 1 assist in 34 minutes. His defense wasn't great but it was good enough to make the Rockets run at Felton during their critical possessions down the stretch.

Speaking of, Felton went 6-12 for 13 points, his most impressive moves being early drives to the hoop for nice finishes. As is his pattern, those disappeared as the game progressed. He could not defend either Houston guard. There's no other way to put that. As just mentioned, the Rockets were singling him out on possessions when they needed a score to save the game. 5 assists, 4 rebounds.

Jamal Crawford went 3-12 for 11 points but he was more active than Portland's other guards. He nabbed 4 steals and dished 4 assists and looked like one of the few regular rotation guys with pep in his step. His crime (besides shooting a low percentage) is that he can neither play nor defend the point guard position.

Craig Smith pounded his way to 11 points on 4-5 shooting in 16 minutes. He looked like he was into this game, playing with energy and having a grand old time. This was clearly his best game as a Blazer. He's also Portland's only post option right now.

The game ball goes to Nicolas Batum who, following multiple rough nights this season, uncorked all at once to the tune of 9-15 shooting, 6-7 from the arc (you read that right), 5-6 from the free throw line, 29 points, 4 offensive rebounds, 8 rebounds total, and four amazing blocked shots to save layups on the other end. He looked like the Flash out there, playing in a different gear than his teammates. Bravo.

If you're wondering why Nolan Smith isn't playing more, factor this in. I have yet to see him get back to play transition defense this year even when he's not the shooter or in the play. He had a rebound in 3 minutes.

Fun With Numbers

  • Blazers 17 offensive rebounds but Houston 19. Ouch!
  • Houston 54 total rebounds. Also ouch! Blazers 46.
  • Houston 21 fast break points, many of them happening via sloppy defense.
  • Houston 50 points in the paint to Portland's 42.
  • Those numbers overcame even field goal shooting and Portland's advantage in three-point shooting and turnovers...often indicative of Blazer wins.

Final Thoughts

This wasn't the worst effort ever from the Blazers. They missed Camby and, as always, struggled with tired legs and a lack of 48-minute focus on the back end of back-to-backs on the road.

Also...I've been a fan of Kyle Lowry for some time. It's nice to see him making good. He worked for it.

Check out The Dream Shake to celebrate the win.

Trail Blazers vs Rockets boxscore

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--Dave (blazersub@gmail.com)

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Never really felt like we were in this game, and obviously we know the outcome now.

But this was not so for Brandon Roy who listened to teammate Nicolas Batum, "You're an All-Star, a 3-time All-Star. Take the ball. They can't stop you. You just have to believe in yourself."

by speakers92blazers on Jan 14, 2012 9:26 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

nic made as many threes in one night

as felton has made in 12 games.

only thing is, nic needed 33 fewer attempts to make his 6.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Jan 14, 2012 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

ugh

that’s just messed up

by blazerblaze on Jan 15, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Nic and Wes should be getting Ray and Jamal's 3 point attempts.

I hope it’s just a matter of new players not comfortable on the floor together yet. Nic got 6, and 2 were assisted from Jamal in the first half, so I have to assume that Nate is attempting to make a correction.

by manfredi on Jan 15, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Upon further review...

At least 3 of Felton’s 6 three point attempts in Houston were from team mates passing off to him with 3 seconds on the shot clock. I think our offense was stagnant on those possessions.

by manfredi on Jan 15, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

That happened.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 15, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Why leave Nic out completely...

…in the closing minutes of the game?

by occassia on Jan 14, 2012 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

what i came on to say

The last 5 minutes of regulation and the overtime and I think nic got one touch

"What and how much had I lost by trying to do only what was expected of me instead of what I myself had wished to do?"
— Ralph Ellison (Invisible Man)

by PDXBuckeye on Jan 14, 2012 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Nick wasn't open because....

they just stand him the corner like a greek statue. If you want the most out of Batum there are many things you can do, but standing around is not one of them. Nate is not a very creative coach and Batum suffers because of the lack of being able to design plays to ride a hot hand.

by ralphzillo on Jan 15, 2012 8:08 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

He was 6/6 on his 2 pt attempts, however.

He can score when he drives to the basket. I wish he would curb his shot selection until he gets his rhythm. There was no reason for him to attempt 6 threes tonight, with a seasonal percentage of like 15%.

by manfredi on Jan 14, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He was 6/12 on the night; missed 6 threes, made all his other shots.

Googling Dre’s stats reveals he is shooting 22% from 3, this year. Ray is down to 15% on the season after 0/6 in Houston. As I noted above, 3 of Ray’s attempts were ‘flaming bag’ passes and he had to chuck it from deep.

by manfredi on Jan 15, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll post the obligatory overreaction:

Fire Nate already and blow it up. Keep LMA and Batum, the rest are moving parts.

Gotta get busy livin’ or get busy dyin’. This team has been in between for too long.

by Free Bayless on Jan 14, 2012 9:37 PM PST reply actions  

Ugh. You really want to know? OK.

Not really! I would have been totally ok if you had just typed “Don’t ask”.

by Timmay! on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

so funny

thats where I stopped reading, I started reading Daves post again at individual performances.

by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 15, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Ughhhh!!!

Why are the playing from behind all the time? It’s very sad to see us lose 3 straight. I would think by now Felton would be clicking with this
offense. The shooting percentage by opposing teams has been ridiculous while the D has been looking fairly good. Our defensive rebounding has been terrible and that in a nutshell is why we are on a 3 game skid.

by vanillagorrila on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

they need someone you know like ODEN ...in the middle.

But it kind of annoys me to see all of these unknown eastern European type guys …seems like 2 or 3 to a team…playing on these OTHER TEAMS. Where is Portland when it came to finding and ? developing these big young centers?

by Natsthecat on Jan 15, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Small Sample Size for Nolen Smith

“If you’re wondering why Nolan Smith isn’t playing more, factor this in. I have yet to see him get back to play transition defense this year even when he’s not the shooter or in the play. He had a rebound in 3 minutes.”

Does Felton get back on D regularly?

Smith never gets a chance to play; it is a much too small sample size to judge Smith on. Same old thing with Nate he does not let the young talent develop; a rookie makes a couple mistakes and yank..he is gone. I wish he would give a shorter leash to some of the starters. He only sees the short term results. At least Smith can shoot a much higher percentage than Felton and in time will be a much better defender. You cannot say “Obviously Smith is not ready to play”

Kenneth Faried is starting now for the Spurs. Was he that much better than Smith in college or much more NBA ready?

I think Nate is extremely short-sighted. Maybe it is because of management but either way the young guys need to play…especially in a short season where fatigue will be more of a factor.

Even Craig Smith should get more minutes, especially when Camby is out. You said yourself that he was the only affective post player tonight.

by stats al ghul on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 PM PST reply actions  

I think Nate is brilliant...

…but yeah, I’d like to see the young guys get more time. Even if they cost us a game or two. We have to get them up to speed or we’ll lose more than Marcus to injury.

by occassia on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, at some things ;-)

Like making the most of an injury-gutted roster season after season.

by occassia on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Injury

Has been the excuse. Cole and morris are both getting more minutes for better teams and they bothe were drafted after Nolan. Either our scouts can’t find talent or Nate is the problem. Italent is kind of moot because Nate won’t play or develop players. He coaches to win now. Makes him look good, big contracts, but will always be a 1 and done team.

by Cabbol on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Naw

J-Bay, Outlaw, Blake, Rudy, Sergio, Cunningham, Pendy, Babbitt, Armon, etc. are just not that good. If anything, Nate finds ways to win despite historically weak draft picks and unremarkable talent at role player positions.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jan 15, 2012 10:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Blake is no star, but he was solid for us.

He could hit the 3, and once had 14 assists in the first quarter.

by manfredi on Jan 15, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Your right...he is good at some things

Mostly at keeping the team at an even keel. They never seem to be too high or too low and rarely have long losing streaks. That is why I think Nate would be a better assistant coach.

by stats al ghul on Jan 14, 2012 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

So far Nate has proven that he copes great when his team is shorthanded.

But when he has a full or nearly full roster, he always has difficulty with the rotation, with finding the optimal five, with the distribution of minutes between players.
I have a feeling that his reputation as a good coach is due solely to the fact that in recent years, he was forced to work under extremely difficult circumstances.
But he is certainly far from perfection, even quite often he is outcoached by his colleagues.

by prostofen on Jan 15, 2012 2:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree,

Felton over plays the passing lanes and gets burned time after time, why does Nate let that slide when he preaches staying in front of your Man? It has been said that Crawford will either win the game for you or lose the game for you, so why doesn’t Nate take him out of the game when his shooting and defense is not going to give us any advantage? It was pointed out yesterday that Patty’s shooting was better then any of our guards with playing time outside of Wesley, but we wouldn’t give him a guaranteed contract, but will give one to Crawford just because he is a friend of Nate’s.
Why does everybody push and critique LMA for not rebounding, but cheers for his up and down court play? He is not a rebounding machine and I don’t think we should force that issue, Give him some help inside and let him play his game.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

We almost found our PGotF, except he can't play defense, can't shoot the 3 (now at 15%),

can’t pass the ball to LA above his waist, and can be counted on to turn over the ball in crunch time. Other than that, he’s the one.

Would Phoenix (4-7) give us Nash for Felton and Crawford? They are both out of here after this year anyway, so we might as well see what a real PG (even if he’s 56 years old) could do with LA et.al. for the rest of this year. Felton is making me miss Bayless, but I can’t remember why …

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 PM PST reply actions  

I doubt they would do that trade

but it all depends on how long Nash’s contract is, if he to be paid for a couple years then maybe they would since Felton’s contract expires and Crawfords is for 5 million player option.

by Cjones10 on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Phoenix would only trade Nash to a legit contender, out of respect for him.

Even then, they would probably only trade him if he wanted to play another year, which I’m not sure he does.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 14, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Would take a whole lot more than that.

My guess is that a Nash-centric trade would be something like Camby/Ray/Nico for Nash/Childress/Lopez.

Taking back the cumbersome Childress contract would be a must.

That said, I believe Phoenix declines for marketing reasons and, more importantly, I expect that Nash would rather not come to a non-contender in Portland.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 14, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I was sort of kidding (but I'd do that deal). See my own response to my post.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a tough one.

So many variables involving how much one values Nash, how much one values salary flexibility — which Childress would take away by being an overpaid backup 3 — and how much one values the future of Nic. Because I’m not high on Nash being a fit in Portland, I could take it or leave it. I’m fine about parting with Nic, though, as well as would happily swap out Camby for Lopez, who’s fallen to the wayside in light of Marcin Gortat’s emergence since joining Phoenix.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Like I said, it was just fantasy talk. I wouldn't give up Batum for 4 months of Nash.

But I would (seriously now) give up Felton and Camby for Nash and whoever they want to get rid of, if there was a chance Nash would play another year beyond this year in PDX. But like you said, I don’t think he would be interested in coming to PDX at this point in his career.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 14, 2012 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Nash would be actually be pretty cheap

But that’s only if he were to be traded. The point for both Nash and Phoenix is to get him to a better situation. A trade like the one AK suggested would never happen, because it may actually weaken the team, and at best improves us only marginally, especially in giving up Nic Batum and whatever’s left of Marcus Camby. Neither Nash nor Phoenix (and especially not the Blazers).

But it’s still fantasy talk, since Nash will never ask to be traded.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 14, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm tired so I messed that up. I'd do Felton and Crawford for Nash, not your deal.

Nash contract is up this year so I wouldn’t give up Batum or anyone else that also wasn’t leaving after this year. It would just be fun to see Nash run this team for a few months and get rid of Felton. Just a fantasy thought.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 14, 2012 10:16 PM PST up reply actions  

See, it'll take more than Felton/Crawford.

Phoenix may as well keep Nash in that case.

Unless a team is willing to take Childress of its hands, Phoenix should just ride it out with Nash.

At best, maybe a team like Boston panics and agrees to a Jermaine/Rondo for Gortat/Nash deal.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 14, 2012 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

You're looking at it without taking the human element into account

IF Nash asked for a trade, which will never happen, they probably wouldn’t care what happened, since their only option is to rebuild through the draft anyway, and the point is not to get fair value, it’s to get Nash to better situation. Some EC’s, maybe a decent young role player, and a mediocre first rounder or two should be adequate.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 14, 2012 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

My recap:

Blazers suck, and they suck really bad on the road.

Despite the many lame excuses from the Mike and Mike crew to justify this loss, they almost had me with this gem: “The Blazers are playing a back-to-back, unlike Houston’s back-to-back, Portland had to get on a plane before getting here.” STFU with the damn schedule excuses or the “We are tired” excuses Blazers. Guess what, normal people work 5 days in a row for 40 hours. And normal people don’t get ice-baths, personal trainers, platinum planes, hotel rooms, cooks, and doctors to help us get to work on back-to-back days, but you all do! Just play the game, if you lose you lose, no tired bullcrap, every NBA team is playing a tough schedule this year.

by Cjones10 on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

"Guess what, normal people work 5 days in a row for 40 hours"

Guess what, normal people have jobs that almost any halfwit schlub could perform adequately.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 14, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure you aren't talking about the

Loggers, Framers, mechanics, doctors, surgeons, longshoremen, fishermen, security workers, welders, miners, electricians, plumbers, pilots, air-traffic controllers, engineers, etc…cause I am guessing nobody on the Blazers can do any of those hard or stressful jobs better.

by Cjones10 on Jan 14, 2012 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

fisherman and security is tough work that some have to do

that others aren’t willing. Try working security when Zach Randolph rolls into a strip club. You got your work cut out for you!

by Cjones10 on Jan 14, 2012 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The only stressful thing about plumbing

is trying to get paid after finishing the work….

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 14, 2012 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Agree...many many many nth º hours of practice and some fine genetics are not in most

“normal” people’s repertoire.
And even then…many of THOSE don’t make it in the NBA.
Hence the star treatment, pay etc.

However, I do think the tired excuse is just that…tired.

by Natsthecat on Jan 15, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Might be true that it's due to exhaustion

And we’re about at the point where that goes without saying. So the Mikes don’t have to say it. It’s not like it’s fixable, or that it won’t get worse.

by occassia on Jan 14, 2012 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It might have been the excuse of the Olympic try-out Marathon getting started

Just outside of their hotel suite early in the morning disrupting the sleep of the players, although, I love Mike and Mike, I can’t use that as an excuse, but that is what they get paid to do.
I just think there is something broke inside the team, but of course I haven’t a clue on how to fix it.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Normal people also usually get to go home after they finish a shift. They don’t have to spend months of the year on the road away from their home and family. Many ‘normal’ people also have static schedules and days off, such as a normal weekend.

Normal people don’t have to take 82ish flights a year traveling to/from work. Also many don’t have to worry about things like their diet, or the effect an afternoon of motorscooting could have on their livelihood. Or playing tackle football at halftime during the Superbowl.

And 40 hours? Well, all practices count as work, as do flights, and roadtrips mean they are on the clock as well, throw in any extra training, physical therapy, etc. My guess is they far exceed a normal 40 hour work week, in season. Oh and then we can move onto the long term wear and tear on the body, etc.

I’m sure I missed some things here and there but that’s the gist of it. I don’t believe in any way, shape or form can this type of job be compared to a ‘normal’ job. I just don’t see any similarities, including the massive salaries.

When I say 'my opinion,' what I mean is 'indisputable fact.'

by Fanboi on Jan 15, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

being good on the road

is what separates one and done’s from real playoff contenders. this road trip looks like it will clearly show that the blazers are still a 6 to 8 seed, one and done team.

it makes sense given they are the same team they were last year more or less but it was hard to not get a bit excited and hope for something better after the first 9 games.

by colinmarsh on Jan 15, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Man the team needs Oden

Even a few minutes would’ve helped immensely, screens and rebound-wise.

Joel, Oden, Pryz, Kenyon Martin (out til march)… Any big would help.

by JMLakaShotCaller on Jan 14, 2012 9:54 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

joel przybilla was dead weight last year

he was a really good defensive player and rebounder before the knee injury. after it, he was clearly done.

by colinmarsh on Jan 15, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

That is history

Since then Joel had surgery and had a foot long heavy wire removed from his knee, and has improved daily since. You should not stereotype a player for life when he is coming back early from surgery to help the team.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

stereotype?

where did i do that?

i said based on how joel przybilla looked on the court last year, i think he was done.

do you know what stereotype means?

by colinmarsh on Jan 15, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya he was hurt last year so all hurt people are done.

Or, what you seen yesterday is the way all hurt washed up centers witll be. You go out and try jumping with a steel rod going across your knee.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember the Lakers and Mavs bad starts?

They have now passed or have the same record as us /shakes head in disgust.

Forget being the best in the west, we are now 4th in the friggin division

Oklahoma City 11 2 .846 — 6-1 5-1 1-1 9-2 Won 6 8-2
Denver 8 4 .667 2.5 6-1 2-3 1-1 5-4 Won 2 6-4
Utah 6 4 .600 3.5 5-1 1-3 0-1 3-4 Lost 1 6-4
Portland 7 5 .583 3.5 6-1 1-4 2-0 5-4 Lost 3 5-5
Minnesota 4 8 .333 6.5 2-5 2-3 0-1 3-2 Lost 1 4-6

by Cjones10 on Jan 14, 2012 10:03 PM PST reply actions  

edit

Utah now 7-4 with the win, and Dallas now has a better record with their win, we have officially been passed by the Lakers and Mavs dismal starts.

by Cjones10 on Jan 14, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait this road trip is over and the back-back-back you will really have something to cry about.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 14, 2012 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Read the Dream Shake recap
The Blazers are a great team.

He seem to have a better opinion of the Blazers than most of us do lately.

by XBlazerfan on Jan 14, 2012 10:05 PM PST reply actions  

Houston sucks, that just makes them feel better.

"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jan 14, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Houston's a pretty decent team

They just haven’t been able to translate it to wins until recently.

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Jan 14, 2012 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

They are!

three down games aren’t a reason to give up on your team. Cheer up, Blazersfriends!

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 14, 2012 11:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Btw, Dave

You misspelled blazers (wrote blzaers) on an instance. I assume this is a reference to how unorganized and terrible-looking the blazers played today.

I guess we can all call the team the blzaers (pronounced bullzayers?) after a night like this.

by JMLakaShotCaller on Jan 14, 2012 10:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Balzers is a term of respect

These blzaers haven’t earned that….

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 14, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

lol, rec'd

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by thankyouforblaze on Jan 14, 2012 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks!

Fixed.

Personally I’m still waiting for Blazeers to show up. That’d be my favorite. Sounds like they’re from the 1910’s or something.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 14, 2012 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me - but it seemed that the Blazers went to Mathews by design at the end of regulation

I don’t think the Blazers were settling – they created shots for Wesley. As soon as Aldridge received the pass off the pick, he immediately swung the ball…

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 14, 2012 10:48 PM PST reply actions  

Aldridge's play will improve. As will like all our guards if you really think about it.

our guards all have a track record of playing better than they are right now excluding maybe Matthews and even him I see room for some improvement. He’s been our best guard by far though and if he can keep it up and continue bringing the shot it helps Felton and Crawford get on track.

Felton has been good in running the system as far as im concerned its just his shot, I don’t know what it is about it because I don’t think its that he can’t shoot. I guess it will take time, as Aldridge gets more in shape it should help open it up for him.

Bat88m

by RyanRTE on Jan 14, 2012 11:31 PM PST reply actions  

Rec this post if you would trade Felton for Dre straight up today.

This team desperately needs a floor general, and Felton is not getting it done. Its hilarious that we bought in on Felton because he is supposedly a better shooter, yet he cant throw it in the ocean from distance. At least Dre knew he couldnt shoot from deep and adapted his game accordingly.

Somehow converting Felton into Steve Nash(I know it wont happen) could make this team seriously dangerous. A guy can dream…

NEED....BASKET.....BALL.....

by Armon Jonesin on Jan 15, 2012 12:41 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

I loved it when Dre came to Portland, I was his biggest fan for 2 years prior to coming to Rose City.

He had to play back seat to Roy when he was on the court and the team never adjusted. With this current squad minus Ray, Dre’s smarts and ball handling would be approved of. I still think Ray is a good PG, but lacking in the department to help the team as Dre has proven to be. Fire Felton? Absolutely not. As it is, its what we have and he’s proven his jumper in the past. We haven’t seen it yet. Will we? Ask me after this road trip. I’m willing to give donut man another few games. After these next few games I might change my opinion seeing as spreading the floor is the main problem with this offense. Lets hope he starts hitting the J.

by blindnil on Jan 15, 2012 1:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Me too.

This is a long thread and I wonder if I missed some complaining about Crawford. He got outplayed big time and his shooting is not that impressive. He showed up against the L@akers, but other than that I get nervous when he subs in. I hope to be proven wrong, but wish we would have spent his money getting a 5.

by Kevlar Rocket on Jan 15, 2012 6:39 AM PST up reply actions  

You are getting my applaud too.

Not so much because of his shooting, but because he’s a ball hog And not a PG.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

His shot selection is terrible.

I havent seen a blazer take and make so many horrible shots since Outlaw was here. I still think he fills an important role that no other blazer can fill, but lord all mighty he is tough to watch some nights…

NEED....BASKET.....BALL.....

by Armon Jonesin on Jan 15, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

that was real quick.

he’ll have good games and horrible games, and the team really needs to keep him away from the ball when he has horrible games. he really can shoot us right out of games.

by YoniRap on Jan 15, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

he is probably fine playing off the ball. He doesn't do well at all when playing the one.

I think it is taking too much of his energy to try to run the floor…
He is trying, I am sure.
Never known as a defender, his lack of being able to shoot consistently goes UP with effort being used in an area that doesn’t suit his talents.

by Natsthecat on Jan 15, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Good game, guys.

It wasn’t pretty, but it was certainly an exciting one. I wish you guys the best in the future.

"I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information." Bill Watterson~Calvin and Hobbes

by The Chuckwagon has rolled on on Jan 15, 2012 6:36 AM PST reply actions  

team needs to give batum and wes some hardcore ball handling training

the only reason crawford and felton play so much (and both chuck so much) is because they can handle the ball. i’d much rather have nic or wes shoot it, but they seem to still struggle getting their own shots. having a better handle would eliminate the need for having crawford or felton on the floor.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Jan 15, 2012 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

That be true, I supposed

Although you would think a point guard could learn to pass to a shooting guard and small forward when playing small.
But it would be nice to have Matthews at the one and Batum at the 2 with Gerald, LMA and for the moment Thomas. That would help the team very much.

I think we should waiver Armon, since he is never going to get out of Nate’s doghouse and bring back Patty. he can shoot dribble, handle the ball and PASS better then Crawford or Felton.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Agree - these guys are what they are

Mathews and Batum are not PGs.

In terms of dribble penetration – the Blazers have four key players all in the same category – and for that reason, a personnel change is probably in order.

LMA, Wallace, Batum and Mathews are not going to break down the defense off the dribble. They can typically take advantage of a defense off the dribble – but won’t create opportunities out of nothing. One on one – with a little time – that isn’t 100% true, especially in the open court. Batum has some nifty moves if he can protect the ball after it gets picked up – ditto Mathews. Wallace can power guys with his back to the basket dribble – but not in a crowd.

These aren’t really indictments of their abilities, but rather a reminder that dose makes the poison. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing. The Blazers need the shooting of Aldridge, Mathews and Batum; they need the hustle and power of Wallace.

Unfortunately, they also need someone that break a defense down off the dribble. When your top four scorers are all the type that play their best ball off the ball, you are going to be vulnerable.

A partial answer could come from much better guard play – but Felton and Crawford are being asked to do more than they can handle, too.

Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 15, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

This game frustrates me,

because we lost, because it reveals major weaknesses on the team, and proves what many have said about Nic but Nate seems to refuse to address: Our guards aren’t very good, just average. Nic needs more playing time. We don’t have a go-to guy at the end of games. We continue to struggle with front court depth. Saying all that, we were still in the game at the end.

by BBallBrent on Jan 15, 2012 9:33 AM PST reply actions  

This team sure could use a healthy Greg Oden right about now.

I'm typing this here because I became jealous of everyone else with signatures in their posts.

by Flapbreaker on Jan 15, 2012 9:37 AM PST reply actions  

One can dream......

I'm typing this here because I became jealous of everyone else with signatures in their posts.

by Flapbreaker on Jan 15, 2012 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm.... Pryzbilla hasn't been signed yet....

This means Greg is coming back very soon!!!!!!!!!!

by manfredi on Jan 15, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

there's no such thing

you’d think 5 years would have shown this to people.

by colinmarsh on Jan 15, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Came over to the Blazer game after 9ers v Saints

Turned out to be a good game to watch 2nd half of. Batum did more then his share, Wallace seemed out of his element and Aldridge couldn’t find net. Not a good night for my lineup… Perhaps Wallace and Batum cannot coexist, don’t think i’ve seen them show up in the same game yet. Kinda knew they were going to lose when it went to overtime, poor history, road game, back to back and lack of control through out the half I saw. Monday, could see some inspired play. New Orleans & Dr. King day.

by Doganpc on Jan 15, 2012 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

do you think we could trade

felton and a late 1st round pick for andre miller.

by colinmarsh on Jan 15, 2012 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

If you're upset about the poor 3PT shooting and abundance of turnovers, here's a potential lateral move.

http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/5986722

Above all, this guy is a mistake-free floor general. Can’t play a lick of defense, though, so that’s a drawback.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 15, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

For those who don't want to click the link, the proposal was Felton/Armon for Calderon.

I figure that Nate would be more than pleased with Calderon’s 5.27 assist-to-turnover ratio.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 15, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

do it

felton’s d is nothing to write home about either.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Jan 15, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd ultimately say no to it, as Calderon's contract runs through next season.

Since Calderon would only marginally improve the team, it’s not worth the cost.

"I Am Mine"

by AK1984 on Jan 15, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

i'd rather play armon johnson

than have to watch jose calderon.

and i’m not upset about 3 pt shooting. i just think the blazers gave up assets to downgrade the point guard position and it never made sense to me.

they had a better pg in terms of running an offense, playing defense and scoring in andre miller. they trade for a guy who was a marginally better outside shooter except he’s shot poorly this year and really never was that great.

oh well, outside of that, whoever is gm had a nice offseason. the craig smith, kurt thomas & crawford signings all helped fill a need and none of them hamstring us going forward.

here’s hoping we continue to be smart and don’t do something dumb like overpay nic batum. i’m not holding my breath.

by colinmarsh on Jan 15, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Felton wasn't marginally better at outside shooting

He was a lot better. Felton made pick and roll and legitimate hope. Only, the Blazers do not run pick and roll. Style of play here at Portland is part of the issue for Felton vs. Miller.

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by blacknoiseNW on Jan 15, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

if you think outside shooting = 3 pt shooting

then felton was much better. however shooting midrange two’s is part of outside shooting. when you consider all-around shooting, if felton is better it’s marginally better.

by colinmarsh on Jan 15, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Felton is not a whiz at defense either.

That is why all teams target him when they need a score.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

He gets steals by playing the passing lanes,

but if he misses the steal his man flies right by him.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 7:13 PM PST up reply actions  

So let's go over what Felton does well

Shooting – No
Passing – Occasionally, but he isn’t very good at putting the ball where it needs to be
Ball Handling – No
Rebounding – No
Defense – No

I really want to give Felton the benefit of the doubt because we have no other options but he looks like a huge downgrade from Andre Miller and the things he is struggling with have nothing to do with Team Chemistry.

by ppilot on Jan 15, 2012 10:42 AM PST reply actions  

He has driven to the basket and scored on numerous occasions this year.

by manfredi on Jan 15, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

he reminds me of telfair

when he drives in repeatedly and fails to finish.

PHILLY!

by CleBlazer on Jan 15, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

He is good at selling himself

Maybe a politician out of work LOL.

hg

by BBK on Jan 15, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I feel the same way

It looks like as fun as Felton can be off the dribble his lack of defense is going to keep him from being the guy. Crawford is also an awful defender playing either spot in my opinion. He costs the team as many points as Felton does. And it’s just a lack of effort. I’m also tired of watching Crawford’s Roy impersonation, shooting jumpers with 16 seconds left on the clock. I would much rather have Matthews in there at the end, no matter how many points he’s had in the game. Not sure why a guy who has been as consistent as Matthews has been is considered so shaky that whether or not he finishes games is taken on a game by game basis.. Much better defense, and actually shoots better than Crawford. Aldridge, for crying out loud. Man that guy just is so scared to bang at all. How many rebounds did guys go through or around him for. Find a man and block out at least. The formula is simple with Batum, play the guy. All it takes is 30 minutes and this guy fills up the stat sheet. Extra smooth, extra possession player. How scared are guys to shoot jumpers on Batum? Just ugly shots going up. Have to be able to find 30 to 35 minutes for a guy who can play 3 positions, and is as disruptive on defense as he is. Wallace continues to look as though he’s playing by himself out there on both ends.

by heybabydrinkyourmilk on Jan 15, 2012 3:21 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

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