Pessimism: why I expect Raymond Felton to regress this year.
No real purpose for the timing of this post except that I was reading Basketball on Paper and it got me thinking about the shot clock. The shot clock makes shot creation a crucial commodity in basketball. You lose your possession after 24 seconds whether you shoot or not. That leads some to shoot a shot they have little chance of making. If he misses that shot, he is then charged for a missed shot, even though the responsibility for the lost possession is not his alone.
The flaming bag pass (FBP) and subsequent buzzer beating miss are staples of Nate McMillan's offense. That in and of itself is not a bad thing. The conservative approach of the offense ensures that most possessions result in shots (the Blazers were 7th in turnover percentage) and that offensive rebounders are in position to maintain possession for another shot (the Blazers were in the top five in offensive rebound percentage).
Other offensive approaches eschew the opportunity for offensive rebounds in favor of playing at a faster pace and hoping to increase their effective field goal percentage. One such coach is Mike D'Antoni of the New York Knicks. So what does this have to do with Raymond Felton?
Felton apparently made a tremendous improvement offensively after leaving Charlotte for New York. Although his offensive rating increased only from 107 to 108, his usage went from 19.2 to 22.6. Neil Paine tells us that for a mid-usage player like Felton, offensive rating should drop 1.25 points for every point increase in usage. That means we would anticipate a drop in offensive rating of 4.25, instead of an increase. But did Felton improve at all, or was it the result of the Knicks system?
Problematically, guards are disproportionately likely to receive a flaming bag pass, and be debited statistically for the ensuing miss. For example, Andre Miller took 45% of his shots after 16 seconds have elapsed on the shot clock in 2011. On these shots, his eFG was just 41%, in comparison to 46% for all shots. For Gerald Wallace, the story is similar. When the offense stops, Andre and Gerald have to take a crappy shot. When it creates an opening at the end of the shot clock, those are more likely to fall to Nicolas Batum (whose eFG is 53% in the last 8 seconds of the clock, but who has 91% of the baskets assisted).
Mr. D'Antoni's fast pace offense, where Felton played for most of the year, resulted in very few flaming bag passes for Felton. While with the Knicks, Felton took just 26% of his shots in the last 8 seconds of the clock, and 10% of his shots in the last 4 seconds (Miller took 22% of his shots in the last 4 seconds).
Since coaches basically dictate pace, we can expect Felton not to affect the pace at which the Blazers play. Instead, he will assume a similar role to the one Miller filled. He will be asked to facilitate first, then probably take a terrible shot at the end of the shot clock should it come to that. As a comparison, we can look at Felton's numbers from Charlotte, where he was forced to take 42% of his field goal attempts with less than 8 seconds left on the shot clock.
Felton 09/10 Shot Clock Usage (from 82games)
| Secs. | Att. | eFG% | Ast'd | Blk'd | Pts |
| 0-10 | 36% | .566 | 33% | 5% | 4.3 |
| 11-15 | 22% | .548 | 31% | 7% | 2.6 |
| 16-20 | 21% | .420 | 50% | 6% | 1.9 |
| 21+ | 20% | .387 | 48% | 5% | 1.7 |
| Crunch | 42% | .404 | 49% | 5% | 3.6 |
Miller 10/11 Shot Clock Usage
| Secs. | Att. | eFG% | Ast'd | Blk'd | Pts |
| 0-10 | 32% | .526 | 35% | 10% | 3.5 |
| 11-15 | 23% | .471 | 40% | 6% | 2.2 |
| 16-20 | 23% | .449 | 42% | 8% | 2.2 |
| 21+ | 22% | .374 | 29% | 3% | 1.7 |
| Crunch | 45% | .413 | 36% | 5% | 3.9 |
Pretty similar, right? Well, here we go:
Felton 10/11 Shot Clock Usage
| Secs. | Att. | eFG% | Ast'd | Blk'd | Pts |
| 0-10 | 47% | .464 | 22% | 3% | 6.5 |
| 11-15 | 27% | .491 | 35% | 3% | 4.0 |
| 16-20 | 16% | .512 | 36% | 3% | 2.4 |
| 21+ | 10% | .455 | 23% | 3% | 1.3 |
| Crunch | 26% | .490 | 31% | 3% | 3.7 |
OK, here's where it gets fun (and speculative). Let's try reconfiguring Felton's efficiency as if he had taken his shots at the same time in the shot clock as Andre Miller took his. What I've done to calculate the modified eFG% is assume shoots the same percentage on the first 16% of 16-20 second shots and 10% of 21+ second shots, then assigned the remaining shots the percentage at which he made those shots in Charlotte.
secs att. modified eFG% modified attempts
0-10 47% 46% 32%
11-15 27% 49% 23%
16-20 16% 48.13 23%
21+ 10% 38.27 22%
(sorry that table probably just made you seasick, I can't figure out how to import them properly).
Calculating eFG based on these assumptions gives him an overall eFG% of 45.39. His eFG% in New York was 47.8. My conclusion is that at least half of the apparent improvement Felton displayed in New York was the result of not having to force shots, and that will quickly be exposed as Nate's FBPs begin to harm his efficiency.
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great analysis, rec'd
hopefully he gets more open shots though, rather than rushed shots, in our team game format.
nonetheless, he can still hit a 3 pointer at a 37% clip or whatnot, whereas Dre was shooting like 17-20%? It’ll open up the floor for others to score at the very least.

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by thankyouforblaze on Sep 16, 2011 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
at one point Dre was a 5% 3pt shooter
Brandon Roy all the way; great Blazer, injured or not: #7
by collectiveshane on Sep 28, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Raymond felton is basically being considered a side step to Andre Miller. Atleast that seems to be the general consensus here and around the league. Age, and long distance shooting are the main distinguishing points between the two…
Raymond last year was involved in a system based on high offense. A run and gun style similar to Golden State, just better players. Now, Raymond comes to us with a style that gives the Blazers flexibility in offensive schemes. New York, even with Melo, Billups, and Amare were not as diverse as the Blazers squad…
LA, Roy, Batum, Matthews, Wallace, and Oden, will offer Felton many opportunities to shine. He will find himself on the receiving end of many 3’s, second looks from offensive boards (Oden, Camby, Wallace, LA), and a similar high assist rate…
Raymond has literally been given a gun shop and told to find his favorite weapon…
With so many choices, and the fact that Wallace is a former multi-year mate from Charlotte. I would not be surprised to see Raymond have a stellar year…
The numbers that you put together are great! But too many X- factor’s on this team to determine Ray’s position as of yet…
All things positive, Ray is gonna find himself deep in the playoffs with a dominant team…
Bottom line is this: The Blazers are one hell of a force at full strength, to the likes that we have literally not seen since the Drexler era… Miller was the man, and if we have someone similar to him, but younger. I am not worried about this team’s PG future, nor it’s chances to win a ring in the next 5 years…
by Chea Cubana on Sep 17, 2011 12:51 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
nice analysis too
I really think he’ll have plenty of room to shine due to the excellent build the Blazers will surround him with.
rec’d
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Sep 17, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Amen Brother!
It’s really nice to hear something so positive! We do have an awesome squad! One to be reckoned with when we are at full strength! Only thing missing is Aldridge’s back -up. We get Landry and the chip is ours!
This has to be the first and only time
Carl Landry has been considered the missing piece to a championship. LOL.
Nate's gotta prove to me that he will let this team run for Felton to really shine
Now all we need is the rest of the roster to get into "how can everybody help Nicco and Oden" mode. -- Oden Mad, Oden Smash! Sep 29, 2010 7:47 PM
Another telling stat:
46% of his shots were taken in the first ten seconds, and the fact that three-quarters of those were unassisted. What that means to me:
a) he’s running a lot of fast breaks where he’s the fastest man down the court, or
b) he’s shooting half his shots after bringing the ball upcourt with his team— not passing it.
Of course it’s a mix of the two, but there is a very finite offense to be run in Portland, and it uses LMA a lot, and the big guy needs his feeds down low and out on the high post and wing. But if Felton really is the fastest guy up the court every time, that could help this team score a lot. Unassisted and unguarded layups early in the shot clock work in almost any offense!!
But if this were the case you would expect that statistic to be robust against team change. As shown above, that’s not the case: he didn’t do that for a Charlotte team that operated at a pace just above Nate’s. Meanwhile, Chris Duhon, the Knicks’ PG at that time, showed a very similar shot selection profile to Felton at that time, though his overall stats are pretty terrible because his usage rate indicates he provided almost no offense.
i keep dancing on my own.
Great analysis. Naturally, I hope it’s wrong. Felton is one of those guys that the Blazers were rumored to be enamored with and wanted to draft or acquire for a period of time and then they either got them (Wallace and Batum come to mind) or they didn’t and they are still regretting it (Westbrook).
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by The Cactus Leaguer on Sep 17, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
Wow. That's a LOT of numbers.
Not gonna lie, getting into such “sabermetric” detail kinda sucks the fun out of the game for me. As a kid the NBA was one of the things that got my mind OFF math class after a long school day…
by looster401 on Sep 17, 2011 8:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Could give him the Alex DeLarge treatment.
by AK1984 on Sep 17, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
let's just skip forward with the licking of the shoe already
"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."
by thankyouforblaze on Sep 19, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
As an adult
Spending some time going into detail about the game is fun for some of us. There are lots of options out there for more superficial analysis.
We should bring in more scrub big men; they make good curse fodder.
by dan_the_man on Sep 17, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Raymond Felton looks pretty in Red
I'm a grown man stuck inside the mind of a 3 year old
by The Arkitect on Sep 19, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
like a red velvet cupcake!
Amirite???
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Sep 20, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and yes, I hate myself for posting that
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Sep 20, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, plus there is room for both, which is nice.
People can be hopeful Felton will fit in perfectly in Portland, while using stats to discuss why they’re concerned he won’t. Yay, best of both worlds!
there is a difference
felton can make wide open threes and a slightly higher rate than miller
(The part of my brain that come up with clever signatures is locked out)
yes that is true. So could Steve Blake.
i keep dancing on my own.
by atomiccafe on Sep 17, 2011 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, more evidence to support that head coaches dictate pace. By now, that should be obvious to everyone.
Not players, not assistants, and not even GMs, but head coaches and head coaches alone. It’s open and shut.
Coaches dictate pace, end of story. Thankfully, the book is closed on that. Done, finished, and all wrapped up.
Concerning Raymond Felton, he should be treated as nothing more than a short-term stopgap. Once Felton’s contract ends next summer, he should be allowed to walk for simply cap savings. In the future, costs will need to be cut — especially if there’s a hard cap implemented in the new CBA — and one way to be smart with said cap space is by using Nolan Smith as a cheap, cost-effective starting PG from the 2012-2013 season through the 2014-2015 season.
Again, fiscal prudence will be key once the NBA settles its labor dispute. That must be taken into account at all times, too, and is thereby of the utmost importance.
"I Am Mine"
Not sure
There’s a decent chance that Raymond is going to push very hard for a new contract. There’s a very good chance that next year will be one of the worst years ever for free-agents. We know salaries are going to drop and there’s a good chance the cap will be a lot more strict. Teams are probably going to not go out on a limb signing new players until they’ve figure out how to work under the new CBA.
If he looks good at all out there, it’s going to take a lot of restraint to keep management from signing him to a new long term deal if Felton pushes hard enough.
yeah, I'm not quite sold on Ray as solely a stop gap
you really expect Paul Allen and Nate to turn this team over to Nolan in his second (maybe first) season? I have high hopes for Nolan too, but I have a hard time envisioning that scenario.
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
by sammymohawk on Sep 20, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I respect your analysis, but I think you are too convinced that Nate will limit Felton
IMO, Felton is put in a near perfect spot for him. He knows how to run a slow down half court system, but he has also had success speeding up the pace. Nate is not dumb, and will work out the best system to take advantage of Felton’s (the CLEAR starting PG) strengths.
"but he [Raymond Felton] has also had success speeding up the pace."
As long as Nate McMillan is head coach of the Portland Trail Blazers, the team’s pace factor will continue to be in the range of 86 to 89 possessions per 48 minutes.
It doesn’t matter who’s on the roster, either, since players don’t dictate pace. Nope, the head coach dictates pace.
Always.
I can’t stress this enough, since countless people still seem unable to wrap their minds around this simple concept. That’s even after years and years of seeing it play out in front of them, too.
How’s this not sunk in yet? HOW?!?
McMillan will always instruct the same offense at the same pace, no matter if his point guard is Gary Payton, Earl Watson, Brent Barry, Luke Ridnour, Antonio Daniels, Jarrett Jack, Steve Blake, Sergio Rodriguez, Jerryd Bayless, Andre Miller, or even Felton.
He is who he is, for better or worse. Nobody can make him change, either. Not even Steve Nash could do it.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Sep 19, 2011 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think pace is the wrong word for it
No matter what, we are going to be a late clock high fg% team. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t allowed to score on the break. Nate’s always yelling at them to push the ball, we all hear it every time out.
So while pace will stay the same, there’s no reason we can’t increase our fast break points scored. It’s the spurs mold we need to fit into. Push the break for the easiest score, but when nothing opens you slow down and set up the offense. I don’t see any reason why Felton can’t possibly fit that TP role for us.
by Batumshakalaka on Sep 21, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
"I don’t see any reason why Felton can’t possibly fit that TP role for us."
The reason why was explained in detail by atomic. All anyone must do is look at Raymond Felton’s production in Charlotte to see how he’ll likely perform in Portland. The Felton that showed up for 50 or so games in New York last season isn’t the guy who’ll be in a Trail Blazers uniform next season; rather, it’s the Felton that spent 5 whole seasons in a Bobcats uniform who’ll soon be in Portland.
By the way, Felton is no Terry Porter. That, however, is so obvious it shouldn’t have to be said.
“Nate’s always yelling at them to push the ball, we all hear it every time out.”
Here are my earlier thoughts on that, which are from a comment made in December of last year.
“One thing I’ll never understand with Nate McMillan is how he won’t embrace being a down-tempo coach.
Whenever JVG or Mike Fratello have talked about their coaching styles in the past, they’ve been direct and straightforward about being coaches who demand a slow, methodical pace from their players.
So yeah, all that I can take from this is McMillan is either disingenuous to the media, can’t communicate his desire to run well with the players, or lacks the level of basketball IQ needed to even understand the impact of his coaching style.
My guess is unfortunately the last one. Almost every time I listen to or read a McMillan interview, he honestly doesn’t seem very sharp to me. Oh well, at least it’s somewhat amusing that McMillan and Vinny Del Negro were college teammates. Seems like North Carolina State isn’t the place to produce smart, well-equipped NBA head coaches."
http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/12/5/1856017/december-5th-junk-drawer-video-game-frustration-edition#53716488
Whenever McMillan yells at his players about wanting them to run, consider it to be empty rhetoric.
"I Am Mine"
I think you're a little hard on Nate personally
he constantly talks about early and late offense, which means either you get a wide open shot quickly or you work it around for a shot in the last 6-7 seconds of the clock. So I think telling his team to push it, then demanding a methodical style after you come up empty from trying to get a quick and easy bucket (which almost always happens since this isn’t JV) are not definitively conflicting styles.
i keep dancing on my own.
"I think you're a little hard on Nate personally"
That’s true, yeah.
Sometimes my criticism of him is dialed up all the way to 11.
"I Am Mine"
I meant you were hard on him as a person. Like calling him dumb. But I also personally think you are being hard on him. :)
i keep dancing on my own.
That, too.
My guess is he’s of average intelligence overall, which is kind of underwhelming for a head coach.
"I Am Mine"
I think you're completely wrong on this
There is a difference between “speed” and “pace factor.” Nate has always openly stated that he wants our guys to control the offensive boards and force the opponent into turnovers while taking care of the ball on offense, i.e. he wants them to limit the possessions, thereby keeping the pace factor low. When he yells at them to run, he is telling them he wants them to score in transition. As Doc Rivers and Larry Brown have proven over the years, it is entirely possible to run an effective, even excellent, transition attack while limiting possessions.
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Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!
What games have you been watching?
We saw Raymond Felton twice last year, and he absolutely rearranged us both times. That’s all that needs to be said.
No, Portland saw Raymond Felton three times last season.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/feltora01/gamelog/2011/
Apparently, you forgot this game: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201102250POR.html
As you can see, Felton performed poorly against the Trail Blazers the one time he faced them as a Nugget.
Fact checking is key, okay.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Sep 19, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Fact checking is key, nothing wrong with that.
FYI, that was a particularly handsome game for BRoy: 18 pts, 5 rbs, 2 assts, 0 turnovers. And off the bench at that.
Sigh— It’s a d*mn, d*mn shame this is impressive from what used to be.
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by Oh. Em. Gee. on Sep 20, 2011 8:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nugget Felton doesn’t count. They shoved him into the 2 guard spot because Lawson doesn’t know what he’s doing and needs a bigger, helper point guard. Then you got JR Smith always showin’ up with a hangover, and usually walk a straight line most the time.
by Doot Chet on Sep 20, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ftfy
Nugget Felton doesn’t count. They shoved him into the 2 guard spot because Lawson doesn’t know what he’s doing and needs a bigger, helper point guard. is way better at basketball.
i keep dancing on my own.
by atomiccafe on Sep 20, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pace
Most coaches hate turnovers and tend to obsess over them.(Watch any post-game interview and they will always talk about turnovers-shooting,rebounding only when there’s a big edge one way or the other,but they will ALWAYs talk about turnovers.)
Picking up the pace means more offensive possessions,which leads to more turnovers-even if the turnover % remains the same-get 10% more possessions,you get 10% more turnovers.And that extra turnover or two will drive most coaches nuts.(Maybe it’s an ego thing,turnovers are usually considered an indication a team doesn’t play smart,or disciplined,which implies the Head Coach isn’t good or smart or a good teacher,whatever. For whatever reason,coaches will obsess over the extra turnovers and not accept them as part of getting extra shots.)
Second,pace is not just fast-breaking,it’s how your half-court offense works. Swift ball and player movement will get easier and better looks,often early in shot clock,as well as more made baskets off the open looks. A more iso-driven offense kills the clock w/incessant dribbling on the perimeter,more shots made under pressure and a lower percentage. More misses means more chances for offensive rebounds-esp to for a good rebounding team-which often extends the possession for more of the same.
Then there’s the mindset players develop that flows from their coach’s offense. Free flowing motion and passing leads to players feeling comfortable running and passing on the break. A more conservative,deliberate,iso-heavy offense leads to players possession of the ball being more highly values and less of a tendency to take risks w/the ball,ie bringing it up slowly and setting up the offense.
(We’ll ignore that fast-breaking requires usage of limited practice time to get spacings,proper lanes and passing down.)
One on the indelible images of JVG’s Rockets was him screaming for the team to run on offense only to have the PG race up the court and then dribble around waiting for the rest of the team to catch up to him.And it wasn’t just his starters,his bench players did the exact same thing.
"Swift ball and player movement will get easier and better looks, often early in shot clock [...]"
Ah, but not all offenses heavily predicated on copious amounts of ball movement and motion are up-tempo.
At the college level, Wisconsin head coach Bo Ryan’s swing offense is an example of a slow-paced offense that’s got an absurd amount of ball movement and players in perpetual motion.
All in all, pace and ball movement don’t go hand in hand. On the contrary, they’re independent of each other.
"I Am Mine"
by AK1984 on Sep 19, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Timing of shots
Does Nate still say "get it early or get it late?
If so, the second half of that is a problem / fundamentally wrong strategy by the numbers.
Get it early is supported by the data. The Blazers were near the bottom of the teams I checked for shots in the first 10 seconds. And tied for highest on % of shots in the last 4 seconds.
Get it late is the worst time to take a shot. The last 4 seconds are usually a lot worse. There was a comprehensive survey done of the entire league’s data and it showed that average scoring efficiency in the middle part of the shot clock was pretty level, just slightly declining then it fell after 16-20 seconds elapsed.
The right strategy is get it early if it is at least an average shot, then get the first average shot you can get right after that, then after about 12 seconds take the average to near average shot you can get and after 16 seconds take any near average shot you can get. You have to try to shoot well below 20 seconds has elapsed to avoid the pass the hot potato and the on average lousy end of clock shots.
NY had the best shot clock shot distributions among the teams I checked George Karl’s Nuggets were second best. Their strategy is supported by the data" get it early or get it as soon as possible after that with some quality standards but loosening up quickly to avoid the worst shots at the end of the clock. More time of possession is probably also more time to commit a turnover, one way or another. Maybe not be forced pass but perhaps by traveling or a guy in the lane or bumping around.
Seems you are only looking at
the offensive impact.

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