In case you missed it, the players and owners had a get together today and apparently things went sour.  Well...sourer.  The AP quotes players association president Derek Fisher:

I think coming out of today, obviously because of the calendar, we can't come out of here feeling as though training camps and the season is going to start on time at this point. 

Apparently a hard cap is still the main sticking issue.  One wonders, though, what both sides expected from today's talks.  Did each walk in thinking the other would suddenly cave?  Resolution was always in the distance but it'd be nice to think the parties involved were making progress towards it in more than just the obvious temporal sense.  Going backwards isn't anybody's idea of fun.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)