Players playing overseas

by Risk on Aug 5, 2011 11:29 PM PDT

How do you think that players signing overseas affects the negotiations for the new CBA, if at all?

Several players are inking contracts overseas, but at a significant lower pay then what they would make in the NBA. As example, Deron Williams has signed w/ Turkey for 3 million a year vs the 16 million he would have made in the NBA this year.

I know that the Union feels that if its members can find employment elsewhere, that will relieve some of the financial pressure some of the players may start to feel when they paychecks from the NBA stop coming in. IMO though, I think this may backfire.

Take Deron Williams as an example. In a normal marketplace, it would seem that the NBA has overpaid for his services by about 13 million vs the going rate on the open market. The players union will argue that his name and skills brings in more the 16 million to the NBA, and that he deserves that chunk of that revenue. The owners will argue that the market has set the rate of his skills at 3 million, but that playing for the NBA is what multiplies his value 5 times the going market value.

I think that players playing overseas will lower the perceived value of NBA players

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This has no impact on the matter either way.

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by AK1984 on Aug 6, 2011 6:47 AM PDT reply actions

Well, for one, the Euro/Asian leagues are second rate to the NBA

therefore they have much less money to invest in players. look at how all teams overseas are sponsored by crap companies. D Will and many other players are going there to continue working on their game and getting paid a bit too. The only other way to play besides going overseas are these pro/am games in NY and CA, and why would you do that if you could get paid and/or insured overseas?

I personally think (much like AK above) that this was have little if no impact on the new CBA, as only some players, for a much smaller amount of money, will be going overseas to play, whereas most NBA players are banking on the season starting either late or waiting out the entire year until 2012-2013.

Would you want to make $3 mil a year, or just wait a year and make $16 mil? BTW, not all players are taking smaller contracts, as Kobe was trying to get $2 mil a month to play in Turkey.

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by thankyouforblaze on Aug 6, 2011 6:55 PM PDT reply actions

It strengthens the leverage for the union.

Any gainful employment elsewhere by NBA players will soften the blow of being locked out. Sure, for the top tier players its a big cut, but it’s a payday.

by The Penguin on Aug 7, 2011 10:28 AM PDT via mobile reply actions

agree, and it's a needle in the eye to the league as well

by ebnerblazer on Aug 7, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions

And the 90% of players who won't be getting a payday are going to vote how?

by Visionary2 on Aug 7, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions

You know Diebler just signed a deal, right?

I’m not sure where your 90% number comes from, as talks between players and other teams are just gearing up…

Also, vote on what?

by The Penguin on Aug 8, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions

Uh, the new CBA??

There are 400+ NBA players. There are supposedly 40 openings elsewhere… Other than those 10% going overseas, the other 90% are going to be getting antsy long before the owners cave…

by Visionary2 on Aug 10, 2011 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions

40?

40 total opening in all of the professional basketball leagues, worldwide? source?

I am pretty sure if NBA players start inquiring about “openings” in the MANY professional leagues around the world, more than 40 will find jobs, regardless of current openings…

by The Penguin on Aug 10, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions