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The History of the Portland Trail Blazers: The Darkest Days

If you've missed any of our historical retrospectives so far, you can find them here:  1976-77  1977-78  1979-1983  1984-86  1987-89 1989-90  1991-92  1993-94 1995-97  1998-99  2000  2001 2002-03 and 2004

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For an embattled Portland Trail Blazers franchise the major themes of the 2004 off-season were renewal and rebirth.  The worst offenders of the "Jailblazer" era had been swept out by the house cleaners in the front office, team president Steve Patterson and general manager John Nash.  Rasheed Wallace and Bonzi Wells were the most prominent victims.  Center Dale Davis would follow them out the door in the summer of '04, heading to Golden State along with Dan Dickau for guard Nick Van Exel.  With that, the renovation was all but complete.  The expensive veterans and head cases were, for the most part, gone.  Scottie Pippen, Steve Smith, Arvydas Sabonis, Jeff McInnis, Davis, Wallace, Wells...the players missing from Portland's roster would have been a formidable team on their own.  In their place was a young, talented, and presumably eager group ready to lead the team into the future.

At the head of this new class stood Zach Randolph, a 23-year-old power forward flirting with a 20-10 average.  Z-Bo was Portland's next All-Star, waiting only for national recognition to take the stage.  He made the departure of Wallace not only bearable, but a cause for celebration.  Close on Randolph's heels, in fan adulation if not production, were a pair of players picked up in last year's big trades:  Darius Miles and Theo Ratliff.  Miles had been a tantalizing prospect with the Clippers before wilting in Cleveland.  Both energy and promise seemed to be restored in Portland as the small forward found himself on the receiving end of many a slashing dunk.  If the rest of his game wasn't coming along as quickly, well...he had time.  Ratliff awed fans on the other end of the court with spectacular, game-changing blocks.  He wasn't the all-around center that Sabonis had been or even the dependable rebounder and defender like Davis but his swats brought crowds to their feet.

As you may recall, upon taking the helm Nash and Patterson had been issued a three-part directive by ownership:  clean up character issues, lower costs, and remain competitive.  Miles and Ratliff showed yet again the impossibility of doing all three at once.  Both appeared to have character and talent but Miles was a restricted free agent and Ratliff's contract would come up the following year.  The Blazers opened the pocketbook yet again to guarantee their continued service.  Miles got a 6-year, $48 million deal.  Ratliff signed an extension for $11.6 million per year for three extra years.  Collectively the Blazers dropped $82 million on two players they presumed would start for them for the next half-decade.  Why?  First, each player was loaded with promise.  Even though the gaps in their games were obvious, spectacular moments outshone their drawbacks.  Second, what choice did the team have?  They had no viable trade chips, no stars waiting in the wings outside of Randolph.  If Miles and Ratliff didn't work out the team was up a creek.  In hindsight it's easy to see that these two contract signings left the Blazers up that same creek, just $82 million poorer.  But that perspective wasn't available in 2004.  Indeed, these deals were seen as a promise to the fans.  "We're going to do the right thing with the right people, re-creating the era where you grew up watching the same exciting stars improve year by year on their way to glory.  You can believe in us again."

The team had to rely on the Randolph-Miles-Ratliff frontcourt to generate interest because the guys surrounding them was uniformly pedestrian.  In the old days if you didn't care for Wallace you could always root for Pippen.  Now those players were gone.  Portland's backcourt of Damon Stoudamire and Derek Anderson proved competent but throwing support behind them was like trying to win Iron Chef with a bowl of mashed potatoes.  Nothing against smashed spuds.  Everybody likes them well enough but they're not exactly a reason to go out on the town.  The same held true of Shareef Abdur-Rahim, a talented offensive forward picked up as part of the Wallace deal.  He averaged 17 a night but he played the same position as Randoph and had no sizzle to his game.  Ruben Patterson was plenty exciting for the two minutes per game he was generating steals but his game was as disruptive to his own team as the opponents' and fans still hadn't forgotten his shady past.  Folks would pop for Van Exel but he wasn't a team leader.  New signee Joel Przybilla was a throwback to the Blazers' blue collar roots.  Although he was a pleasant surprise for fans he was a complementary player, not a huge draw on his own.  Collectively this group was worthy of a strong golf clap but would have nobody jumping out of their seats.  

The Blazers did have one hope for the Next Big Thing:  rookie point guard Sebastian Telfair.  The 6'0" New York hotshot already had a movie and a book made about him before he notched his first assist for the Blazers.  Under coach Maurice Cheeks, himself a famed point guard, Telfair would presumably grow into stardom, driving the team through its next big wave of success.  Fans were juiced to see Bassy play.  But they assumed it would take at least half a season for him to hit his stride.

Summarizing:  the Blazers had one rising star in Randolph, two exciting companion players in Miles and Ratliff, a hope for the future in Telfair, and some decent odds and ends as the '04-'05 season began.  It wasn't much compared to 2000 but it was a start.  As long as these players remained likable and played hard perhaps the Blazers could swim out of the public relations swamp in which they had been languishing.  The team even ran a set of "block party" ads to that effect, showing various players interacting with fans in city neighborhoods, being normal guys.  The message was simple:  here are a bunch of players you want to be buddies with.

Unfortunately the opposite was about to occur.  The next two seasons with this group would send fans screaming and running the other way as the would-be heroes turned into pariahs and the franchise resurrection evolved into a horrifying farce.

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Star-divide

Normally we give you a rundown of each season as these histories progress but recounting the 2004-05 season blow-by-blow would just be cruelty.  Here's a synopsis:  

The Blazers played .500 ball for their first 20 games or so and then...

  • Zach Randoph got injured
  • Theo Ratliff got injured
  • Shareef Abdur-Rahim got injured
  • Nick Van Exel got injured
  • Derek Anderson got injured multiple times and started enduring questions about his toughness, likely because one of those extended injuries was for a toothache.
  • Rumors started about Randolph making use of his time off with clandestine activities, not savory enough for public consumption
  • Darius Miles got suspended for using racial profanities against coach Maurice Cheeks during a film session.  At the same time he said he didn't care if the team lost 20 straight because Cheeks was going to get fired.
  • Damon Stoudamire barely cleared 39% field goal shooting but registered a 54-point night against the Hornets...for a single game fulfilling all the promise Portland fans had wanted to see for years.
  • Sebastian Telfair shot the same bad percentage plus proved he couldn't play any defense plus didn't look like an NBA point guard.
  • Ruben Patterson got into constant scraps with his coach over playing time and role.
  • Travis Outlaw barely played.
  • Qyntel Woods got waived.
  • Joel Przybilla played well.

That, my friends, is not much of a season.

55 games into the debacle, facing a team with a 22-33 record and devolving into chaos, coach Maurice Cheeks was fired.  Ironically this turned Darius Miles into a savant, proving the point of his rant.  A young staff executive named Kevin Pritchard took over the head coaching position.  His goals were to play faster and to get a better look at Portland's younger players.  Telfair saw a little life under his tenure.  Everyone else seemed to coast.  The team finished the season 5-22, leaving them with 27 wins and 55 losses.  It was the lowest win total since 1974.  Respectability seemed a distant memory.

It wouldn't be accurate to say fans were outraged at this performance.  In reality they didn't care.  Nobody followed the Blazers anymore.  People were suspicious of the supposed turnaround from the start, having endured several seasons of public gaffes by players and empty promises from management.  At the first hint of a rumor of impropriety everyone tuned out, ducking back in only to say "I told you so" when the huge news broke about the Miles tantrum.  All the folks who had bought into the "win at any cost" mantra of the Whitsitt years dropped out in the face of two dozen victories for the season.  Worst of all the Rose Garden was still in bankruptcy and owner Paul Allen had put the team up for sale, stating publicly that "all options were open" to resolve the situation.  "All options" presumably included moving the team entirely.

We summarized the situation at the beginning of the season, so let's summarize at the end:  The Blazers won only 27 games.  The "Jailblazer" aura surrounding the team had not lessened but intensified.  Portland's young stars were turning out to be ineffective, unlikable, or both.  A coach was fired.  The team could move at any time.  Fans found zero reasons to watch the team, no hope for the future (not even a sure hope of the franchise existing), and anybody who would have held on because of past loyalty had long since been driven away.  Every impulse to care about the team was quickly undermined by these stark, horrible realities.

The remaining group of Blazer fans was infinitesimal, kept alive only through the relatively new technology of online message boards and forums.  Fans sorted into two rough groups:  those who passionately defended the team at any cost, brooking no disagreement, and those who delighted in torturing those passionate defenders.  Once upon a time Portlanders were able to walk into any bus stop, nursing home, or elementary school in the city and strike up a warm conversation about the team.  Now silence reigned universal save in those internet enclaves where your head would be chopped off the moment you peeked in and said "boo".  Blazermania had not only died, it had come back in cannibal zombie form, a grotesque, destructive parody of itself where fans and players alike were cranky, often crazy, and utterly unsympathetic.

It's hard to imagine how things could get worse, but the ghosts of 10,000 Blazermaniacs would have screamed in horror had they understood the implications of the team's next move.  

The best--maybe only--benefit to finishing with a horrendous record is a decent spot in the draft lottery.  Technically Telfair had been a lottery selection but that was a double-digit pick.  This year the Blazers were in prime time, the third spot.  At #3 you expect a franchise-changer, a ticket-mover, a guy whose jersey would be plastered on Fred Meyer display walls and downtown billboards.  As the six dozen remaining Blazer fans held their breath to see who this guy would be, news stations announced a trade.  Portland would move the third pick to Utah in exchange for the 6th pick, the 27th, and a future first-rounder.  Wait...the franchise-changer was going to slip?  The Blazers must be onto someone that nobody else suspects!  Who is it?  Who is it???

It was Martell Webster.  He was a 6'7" small forward straight out of high school.  He had a great body and a great shot.  Maybe he could make Miles obsolete.  That was the hope.  Meanwhile Utah selected point guard Deron Williams with the third pick.  Right after that the New Orleans Hornets took a guy named...hmmmm...what was it?  Oh yeah.  CHRIS PAUL.  Fans couldn't know at the time that Williams would become a perpetual All-Star and Paul a yearly MVP candidate while Webster would struggle to adjust to the NBA game for years and the extra picks would turn out to be Jarrett Jack and Joel Freeland (all three of whom combined don't equal half of a Williams or Paul) but if they had known, they probably would have just shrugged their shoulders and said, "It figures".  As it was, the Blazers supposedly didn't need a point guard.  They had Telfair.

The rest of the 2005 off-season involved more housecleaning and salary dumping.  Anderson, Abdur-Rahim, and Van Exel were cast off.  In a much-publicized move the Blazers also let Damon Stoudamire walk.  The hometown boy's multi-year run of competence (but not brilliance) was over.  Outside of Theo Ratliff, these four had been the only veterans on the squad.  When the new season rolled around only three players in red and black could claim 5 or more years of experience in the league.  Two of those were Miles and Pryzbilla at exactly 5 years each.  The Blazers were sending fuzzy yellow chicks to a cockfight.

The summer of '05 did provide one huge move, though.  The Blazers lured away esteemed head coach Nate McMillan from the Supersonics with a huge financial offer.  This made headlines not only because of McMillan's reputation but because it was the first unabashedly positive move in years.  McMillan was a hard-liner, the type to whip a bunch of youngsters into shape.  If owner Paul Allen spent that kind of money on that promising of a coach maybe it meant he still cared and was trying to build something in Portland instead of taking it away.

Immediately as training camp started McMillan faced rebellion from fowards Randolph and Miles.  Neither possessed the diligence and discipline he was trying to instill in this team and each had been used to getting his way for years.  McMillan would soon run up against Ruben Patterson's chronic complaining about minutes and role as well.  Patterson would be traded later in the season and neither Randolph nor Miles would survive long under McMillan.

But before those changes happened the Blazers had to endure another 20-ish win season...21 to be precise.  Absent veterans, any scorers outside of Randolph, and any defense period, Portland couldn't sustain winning play for more than a quarter at a time.  Sometimes they got lucky and hit the right quarter to pull out the victory, most often not.

Portland's off-court problems in 2005-06 became more localized but more intense.  Randolph and Miles made plenty of headlines for infractions that in the abstract would be minor:  street racing, carrying firearms, obnoxious behavior at strip clubs.  In the Jailblazers context these scratched at old wounds.  Each incident blackened the cloud above the franchise.  Again, few argued these were capital offenses, but most Portlanders were tired of the stupidity evidenced by millionaires in public positions risking their reputation (and their teams') for silly reasons.  Portland's not-so-dynamic duo were poster children for that.

In addition the local media--particularly the local newspaper, the Oregonian--began feuding openly with the Portland management team.  Management's beef was the supposed "negativity" being spouted by reporters and columnists despite the upward trend in team character and everybody in the front office trying really hard.  Journalists countered with the scope of buffoonery evidenced by the Blazers' hierarchy over the years, mistakes which they seemed less interested in correcting than covering for.  Reports surfaced of growing media paranoia at Blazers HQ, including e-mail searches and strict lectures.  Meanwhile local columnists turned doughnut delivery into a toxic subject, inflating the slightest infraction into mammoth proportions like busybody neighbor Gladys Kravitz on "Bewitched".  These all-too-public volleys between the Blazers and the paper did not help the credibility of anyone involved.  Neither would again be viewed with the once-sacrosanct public respect they formerly took for granted.  Despite the noise, most fans continued their by-now-routine practice of tuning out the whole affair.  Like Punxsutawney Phil they'd peek their heads out of their holes when a controversial story hit, only to determine that the Blazers' winter would last at least six more weeks.  Then it was back to doing whatever occupied their time before they had been disturbed.   The bright spot for the Blazers:  at least nobody saw their worst season in modern history.  The dark spot?  How in the world were they going to crawl out of the dark Pit of Doom in which they had buried themselves?

Fortunately for the team a beam of light lay just ahead.  Interest was about to be rekindled behind the most complex draft day anyone could remember, two new players on which the franchise would pin all its hopes, and a perky front office guy with a true gift for gab.

Next Time:  The upswing begins!

Share your memories of these days below if you wish. 

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Thanks for ruthless retrospective, Dave!

Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically

by OhOhOden on Aug 16, 2011 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

It's really a treasure to read these things

to really remember, no matter how much we complain about being stuck in NBA purgatory or being a piece away, or yet another first round out, how good we have it.

by vitaminx on Aug 16, 2011 11:17 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Webster instead of Paul

Was WAY worse than Oden instead of Durant. How come we aren’t attacked more for that blunder from the national media?

"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez

by TheGreatMon on Aug 17, 2011 2:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Probably because Webster wasn't expected to be the missing piece

… the guy who would put Portland in the championship round. Webster or Paul, the Blazers still would have been lousy that season. By the time the Blazers picked Oden, they had Roy and Aldridge and a competitive team.

by hercher on Aug 17, 2011 2:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The one thing missing from this history

is the inability of Portland management to support Cheeks’ efforts to discipline his players. While I don’t think Cheeks was a particularly great coach, he didn’t have much of a chance in Portland.

Also, anyone remember Cheeks’ best moment? When a young girl singing the national anthem forgot the words, so he went over and sang along with her and prompted her to finish the song. Very classy guy.

by hercher on Aug 17, 2011 2:52 AM PDT reply actions  

This was when dispare broke into the empty void, the plain of shells. So empty an formless. But … Joel’s blocks and grit shown through somehow. He was like that lone Ent swatting a mire of Orcs.

"All is vanity and vexation of spirit."
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by Y5k on Aug 17, 2011 4:17 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

My first blazer game in the rose garden

was the first time Joel really broke out. I do not remember his stats exactly, but he had like 4 blocks and 18 points and 10 rebounds (these are all guesses). But he was the shining star in a win over Sacramento. Joel became my favorite Blazer from that moment on. I hated having to trade him for Crash, but completely understood. It was my hope that he would be waived and we would sign him again.

I miss Joel, he was the one bright spot of a terrible team.

by BlazerFanFromDenver on Aug 17, 2011 8:04 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Call me crazy, but this was the year I became a life-long Blazer fan.

My first Blazer-related memory is me wondering what the heck a Darnell Valentine is and why something with a name so cool was so plentiful on the block in Franz Bakery trading card form. I swear, we all had at least three of those stinking things. The cops handing them out must not have shuffled them very well.

Naturally, I loved Terry and co., and watched religiously their battles with the L*kers. I remember a graduation ceremony interrupted by screams as those in attendance with walkmans caught Schoneley’s call of Hornacek’s desperate brick bouncing listlessly off of the backboard. Blazers WIN. Blazers WIN. High fives galore. Right in the middle of a ceremony. That was awesome.

By the time Rasheed and Scottie and the roughly ten other all-star quality players battled those same L*kers, I was old enough to appreciate the sweet science and athletic excellence of basketball. I was a huge Blazer fan. Soon, I would be bitterly disappointed, having to drive by partying loser L*ker fans whooping it up on the sidewalk. Losers. Seriously. Rooting for the L*kers. “How low-life is that?”, thought I.

So by the time these particular losers (in their own right) mentioned in Dave’s post donned the Blazer jersey, with the city of my birth pasted to its chest, I had already experienced plenty as a fan. I remember standing in my friend’s TV room, watching the fellas get drilled by Philly, and everyone else was just laughing at the “Jail Blazers”. They suck. They’re thugs. They’re Trail-gangstaz (Jim Rome impersonation…I’m so glad those are out of style). Anyways, I was nearly swept up in the pack of lemmings when something stirred within me. I suppose you could call it a burning in my bosom. Perhaps it was a chili dog. Regardless, I took a stand that day.

“I don’t care how much these guys suck. I don’t care if they each come over here and kick me right in the package. This is my team, damnit, and I’m going to root for them forever.”

Some people realize they are true fans in the highest moments, which, of course, are the fun ones. I realized the nature of my Blazer devotion at the team’s lowest moment in history. The fact that the team came back on Philly, then went on to win several more games in a row didn’t hurt either.:)

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 9:01 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Can I get an Amen for brother Hipster?

"You can pretty much flip a coin to see which Portland team will show up: the dark-horse world-beaters or the mixed-up eggbeaters" - Dave

by conspirator5 on Aug 17, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

The dark years

Somewhere we lost our ability to recognize what makes a winning NBA player. Telfair? First time I saw him play I could tell he was Darnell Valentine without the D, integrity or decent open outside shot. All he had was an ability to penetrate and NOT finish and NOT pass. That 2004 team was not only horrible but there was not even any potential to get excited about – even for us Blazer fans. Wow, what a crapfest that was. Heck, Elliot Williams would have been the most popular guy on that team.

by LicketyBrindleDowntheMiddle on Aug 17, 2011 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

So true!........ LOL!

"Unless commitment is made, there are only promises and hopes, but no plans."

by SurReal on Aug 17, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

A few things...

…there are the high profile mistakes of this era, the huge contracts given to Miles and Ratlif. But IMO one of the biggest mistakes was Abdul Rahim. He simply was not the right player for The Blazers to obtain with an emerging Zach Randolph. The two players could not co-exist. John Nash believed Rahim could play with Randolph but both their games were too similar. Randolph and Rahim simply did not work together. If I remember right, this mistake was ultimately compounded when the asset that was Rahim, was simply allowed to walk away, with an expired contract, for no return.

   As covered, and in hindsight, perhaps The Blazers hope and faith in Telfair was toxic, in setting the team up to believe passing on Deron Williams and Chris Paul was not only possible but wise.

   I also think a MAJOR theme of this period was the direction and attitude of Paul Allen. His battle with Portland Arena Management, and his public announcement of a broken financial model and declaration that he was looking to sell or ready to embrace and and all options, left this franchise as close to death as I think it has ever been.

  At some point, Allens attitude changed. His repurchase of his interest in The Rose Garden, and removal of Portland off the market, IMO marked the turn around.

  Allen has never been too publically forthcoming as to what personally changed his approach. During this period we went from being a “Broken Financial Model” with an owner with only a partial shared stake in the arena inwhich his team was playing, to Allen re-investing 100’s of millions of dollars, to re-purchase full interest in The Rose Garden, and suddenly take The Blazers off the market. —-IMO this is the biggest turning point in recent Blazer history.

  I shudder to think where we might be…or not be..today had Allens interest in The Blazers not been rekindled. The reported search for a new owner or owners for The Blazers had not been glowing or positive. With no great prospect and rumors at best of frankensteined business ownership groups possibly forming…in a slightly different alternative universe, I think the Northwest came very close to NOT having any N.B.A. team in the region.

  I would mark 3 things as the re-birth of the franchise. #1-Allens re-purchasing full interest in The Rose Garden and taking the Blazers off the market. -#2. The arrival of Kevin Pritchard, and his youthful “Rip City is Back” attitude. (Justified or Not). And #3. Nate McMillan being hired as coach.

  Up to these events, we had struggling management, that had fully disconnected with the fans and local media, we had ownership that seemed disinterested, and embattled with The Rose Garden, and in Cheeks, we had a young coach, in way over his head for the almost impossible situation he was put in…..

  Dark days indeed.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 17, 2011 9:41 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm suprised there was no reference to "Sarge"

This was the “sarge” season where Nate had to act like drill seargent with Miles and Z-bo (and Reuben). That of course dissapeared the next season with 2 likeable rookies on-board.

by NWfan on Aug 17, 2011 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Nothing...

…ticked me off as much as their drafting Telfair. Nothing.

I still get get cranky thinking about that one.

“Predictable and predicted”

-t

by webted on Aug 17, 2011 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

That wasn't even a top 10 pick.

I don’t get the anger. It’s not like they blew a lottery selection on Kwame Brown or something…

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 11:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

It wasn't so much...

…picking Telfair that was the mistake. A lot of people were high on Telfair, infact Boston gave us the pick that would become Brandon..for Telfair…

  The mistake was not picking Williams or Chris Paul because The Blazers had too much confidence in what Telfair could become.

  The biggest reason I lament the Telfair pick, is because I think had we NOT made it, we would of probably ended up with Williams or Chris Paul the following year…

   Telfair had/does have skills. Bigger mistakes have been made. Trading down, and away from Chris Paul and Deron Williams would be the thing I’d be more cranky about…

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 17, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

After watching a more skilled...

…Damon Stoudamire struggle for 5 years to make a decent entry pass (with Rasheed Wallace, Bryan Grant and Arvydas Sabonis on the receiving end), and after failing to make the playoffs for the first time in two decades, we spent the highest draft pick we had seen in over a decade on… an undersized point guard with a suspect shot fresh out of high school.

And, yes, tying our fortunes to Telfair’s development resulted in a cavalcade of later mishaps.

But, the best you could say about Telfair, AT THAT TIME, was that he was a multi year project.

He was overhyped, and Nash bought into it, despite numerous evaluators observing: he’s too small, he over-dribbles, he doesn’t shoot well and he has no defensive sense.

Damon Stoudamire was superior in most aspects of his game, yet was clearly viewed as a liability by this same management group during his peak years.

Telfair was a harbinger of mediocrity.

The next seven picks taken after Telfair?

Kris Humphries
Al Jefferson
Kirk Snyder
Josh Smith
JR Smith
Dorell Wright
Jameer Nelson

I mean, jeez, it’s not like there was no one else out there….

Of course, Ha-Seung totally made up for it…

-t

  

by webted on Aug 17, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

No team "ties its fortunes" to a 13th pick. That's silly.

You have to stink enough to get in the top 5. Once the Blazers became willing to do that they started to truly turn it around and rebuild properly rather than reloading poorly.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 2:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Major exception.

If one were to scan the list of all NBA players from the last few decades I’m sure an obvious pattern would emerge. Top 5. Few exceptions.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

Top 12 consistently yields very good to excellent players every year. Look through the drafts and you’ll notice a trend at and above #12 (sometimes #10, someitmes #14, but always right around there).

by jamon51 on Aug 17, 2011 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also,

there was NO CLYDE DREXLER IN THAT DRAFT SELECTED.

That should be an obvious point.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Blazers tied their fortunes to the 13th pick.

Passing on Williams and Paul the next year is pretty clear evidence of that. As goes your point guard, so goes your team…

by webted on Aug 17, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the dumber pick was the next season,

which is when they actually skipped HOF talent in Paul and Williams.

To say the 13th pick the year before was worse is pretty silly.

No 13th pick ever sunk a franchise. The teens are always a crap shoot.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless someone is making the case that the 13th pick in the year prior

directly resulted in the pass over of that HOF talent the following year. So, in that sense…

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Aug 17, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not picking Michael Jordan was stupid. REALLY stupid.

The fact that Clyde Drexler was great doesn’t change that.

If anything, passing on Paul and Williams means that particular crop of Blazer decision makers were wrong about both Webster AND Telfair, because neither has done diddly-squat in the NBA. They were wrong about Telfair twice, even.

No. A mistake never ‘leads’ to another mistake. You have to actually make additional poor decisions to continue in an erroneous pattern. But the most costly pick, in literal terms of passing up HOF talent is the Webster pick. Period.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The poor use of the 13th pick didn't sink the franchise.

I’m not sure where you came up with that. Last I checked, the franchise was still there.

The poor use of the 13th pick was emblematic of the “lightly talented” management team. The fact that they followed their poor choice in 2004 by skipping available point guards in the following draft might indicate integrity and conviction to you, but to me, it’s a mistake leading to another mistake.

“Leading” doesn’t mean they had to make the second mistake, it simply observes their deft grasp when the opportunity presented itself.

The ‘immaculate conception’ approach to poor decision making leaves little opportunity for self improvement.

-t

by webted on Aug 17, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The point is 13th picks rarely make or break a team during rebuild,

but top 5 picks can. If you select wisely in the top of the lottery, you’re not going to be in the top of lottery for very long. If you don’t, you’re sure to cycle through youngsters with ‘upside’, while failing to construct a team capable of competing in the playoffs.

I don’t view decisions made poetically in that manner. Each draft selection carries with it inherent risks—risks that certainly rise along with the position of the selection in the draft. To bemoan KP for failing to add bench talent with lower 1st round picks is fair. But to peg a sinking franchise on one little 13? Come on.

Webster was the worst Blazer pick outside of Bowie. With top picks you select the best damn player available. Period. The Blazers should know this better than any other team, as they are one of only two franchises to ever pass on drafting the greatest player to ever don an NBA uniform, Michael Jordan. Houston got Dream, of course, who led them to glory. The Blazers? Well…we know how that story goes.

So to say the Telfair pick is worse because it led to the Webster pick is just silly. The Blazers picked Telfair at the edge of the lottery instead of Nelson. Big freaking deal.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not even close
Webster was the worst Blazer pick outside of Bowie.

From Wiki:

LaRue Martin (born March 30, 1950 in Chicago, Illinois) is a retired American professional basketball player. Martin was taken first overall by the National Basketball Association’s (NBA) Portland Trail Blazers in 1972, drafted ahead of future Hall of Famers Bob McAdoo and Julius Erving.1 Martin has been cited as the worst first overall draft pick in NBA history.

In Fact i would rank this pick worse than Bowie …at least with Sam we were able to trade him for Buck Williams…LaRue retired after 4 years

Me after hearing of a Rudy Hardwood Classic Jersey going for $45:"Take the "RNANDEZ" part off....and sew on a "LTON and you are good to go"."

by 92wastheyear on Aug 18, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I seem to remember a lot (relatively speaking) of excitment about Pritchard's future with the team

Everyone assumed he’d be the next GM, and a good one at that.

i like it here, there, everywhere.

by Name's Ash on Aug 17, 2011 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

i loved this year, because damon didne really care

i remember nic van excel setting the team record for threes made in a game, and then damon breaking it the next game.

i remember damon jacking up 21 threes in one game.

i was at the game when damon set the franchise mark for three pointers made in a blazer career, originally set by cliff. i got a free Sebastian telfair jersey that game.

i hated the cheeks firing because ownership pretty much said we don’t care about winning and cheeks cared about winning

Steve Smith is my favorite Blazer of all time

by thomasikehara on Aug 17, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Cheeks might have cared about winning

but he was a terrible coach. Not an X’s and O’s guy at all.

by jamon51 on Aug 17, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was anyone really excited about Telfair's arrival?

Serious question. I nearly threw the remote control at the TV when I heard his name picked. My wife has vivid memories of me yelling out loud from another room.

I wasn’t sure who they should pick in that spot (though it’s clear in retrospect, of course). I just knew they reached for a kid with mediocre potential, and I was worried they did it for the Nike thing. Which meant they were not drafting BPA.

by Timmay! on Aug 17, 2011 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not sure "excited" is the right word.

There was plenty of hype and a fair amount of curiosity. Telfair put Portland back in the national spotlight in a way, though the spotlight was focused solely on him. That was worth something. However it took me about a month to figure out that this was a no-win situation for the Blazers. If he sucked then it was all for nought. If he became a star he was moving on to a bigger market and more notoriety and again it was all for nought.

—Dave

by Dave on Aug 17, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that's funny.

I did the exact same thing – and my wife still says the same thing when draft day comes around, “You aren’t going to get all ticked off like when they drafted that high schooler, are you?”

-t

by webted on Aug 17, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

In retrospect,

people were REALLY excited about Marbury at the time. If they knew what would become of his game, they would have no doubt tempered their expectations of he and his far less talented cousin too. Actually, this was essentially the donning of the current era, where the NBA obsesses over ‘upside’ and hype generated by brands associated with players, while meekly celebrating team play and actual winning basketball. Nike’s (and many other sponsors, but McDonalds and Nike most of all) influence on basketball cannot be understated. It’s a mixed bag.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 17, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jarrett Jack and Webster

I remember that draft well — it was the first draft I really followed closely. A co-worker of mine really wanted Marvin Williams and I liked Martell Webster. Chris Paul had questions about his size/shooting and we already had those issues with Telfair. Deron Williams had questions about his quickness which seem ludicrous now but were real questions at the time.

So I was kind of excited when they drafted down and got Webster plus a solid backup who had manhandled Chris Paul in Jarrett Jack. I figured we got two solid rotation players rather than another Telfair. Obviously, I was wrong, but that was my thinking at the time.

by jamon51 on Aug 17, 2011 9:39 PM PDT reply actions  

What is it with the Blazers and the way they draft point guards?

Always looking for a bargain. We could have drafted Chris Paul. He was a can’t miss prospect. Oof.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Aug 18, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Qyntel Woods...

…was perhaps the stupiest player ever to don the scarlet and black. Wasn’t he waived after his involvement in organized dog fighting at his house? Freakin’ awesome. What an idiot.

by Puddyknife on Aug 17, 2011 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

"NEVER TRADE DOWN" should be painted on the wall in the GM's office

and we just did it again with Faried (yes i know it was a condition for Felton)

does anyone know of a time that that worked?

by extraneous solutions on Aug 18, 2011 3:00 AM PDT reply actions  

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