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The History of the Portland Trail Blazers: The Patterson-Nash Regime Begins

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With the departure of Bob Whitsitt in the Summer of 2003 Trail Blazers fans looked for a reprieve from the chaotic whirlwind that seemed to have engulfed their team.  Just three years after the heady days of 2000 the Blazers were lost, adrift in a maze of bad character, selfish play, playoff impotence, and media relations disasters.  Owner Paul Allen called upon two veteran front office executives to set the team back on course.  President Steve Patterson was a second-generation manager who made his name in Houston with both the Texans and the Rockets.  General Manager John Nash was a grizzled ex-Sixer, Net, and Bullet.  Allen gave the pair three directives:

  1. Cut costs.
  2. Improve team character.
  3. Keep the team competitive.

These seem fairly straightforward until you consider that in 2003 Portland was known for its incredibly bloated cap load and utter lack of character, plus the Blazers were barely competitive in the first place.  If you'd like to simulate the difficulty of this tripartite command try this simple experiment:  Pat your head.  Simultaneously rub your tummy with your other hand.  Now jump on top of the moon.  Did you manage it?  Neither did Patterson and Nash.

At any given time Portland management could handle two of the three directives.  Each move they made failed in at least one area, however.  The failure zone kept switching with each transaction.  Sometimes they'd blow the money aspect, sometimes character, sometimes talent.  The result was a tepid mush, solving none of the problems they had inherited.

The first three moves of the Summer of 2003 involved shedding ballast.  The Blazers jettisoned Antonio Daniels, Scottie Pippen, and Arvydas Sabonis in short order.  While none were providing a serious competitive edge all three were popular.  Portland fans' perception of the team did not improve.

The big summer signings after that were an aging Tracy Murray and Euro-forward Vladimir Stepania.  Both were cheap and neither would embarrass the franchise but neither one was going to make a difference to the win-loss total either.  This was indeed a far cry from the Whitsitt years.

An all-too-familiar cast of Blazers (minus some big names from the good years) started the 2003-04 season in all-too-familiar fashion, hanging right around .500.  The happy news came from Zach Randolph.  With a huge infusion of minutes courtesy of his playoff performance against Dallas the year before Z-Bo was pouring in 20 per game, leading the team.  This was balanced by diminished play from Rasheed Wallace.  Always mercurial, 'Sheed turned downright sour in '03-'04.  His tirades didn't even have a purpose anymore.  He'd go off at random intervals, shocking fans and teammates alike.  He began making noise in interviews, inferring that he'd rather be somewhere else...a viable threat since his contract was expiring.  Worse, his play indicated he'd already departed.  Like Isaiah Rider of old, Rasheed would check out during large portions of games, standing flat-footed and watching rebounds, refusing to take shots that he would have hit with ease in years past.  Portland's love-hate relationship with their best player turned solidly to "hate".  The loss of production from the old guard muted any gains earned by the new.  Thus the Blazers lost as much as they won.

On December 3rd, 2003 Nash and Patterson made their next move.  They shipped Bonzi Wells, until this season Portland's second-best player, to Memphis for veteran sniper Wesley Person and a mid-level 2004 first-round pick.  Person was a more-than-likable guy but even stellar three-point shooting didn't put him near the talent level of Wells and everybody knew it.  The antipathy Bonzi had garnered was so great that most fans were happy to see him gone no matter who was coming back in return.  But the move also tipped management's hand.  They were not here to reinvigorate this team; they were here to tear it apart.  This wasn't a remodel, rather slash and burn.

Now absent Wells, the team slipped below .500.  Their play wasn't so much awful as inconsistent.  They'd win or lose regardless of opponent.  Some nights they were on, others not.  It seemed like the players themselves were waiting for the other shoe to drop.  Who was next to go?

That drop came on January 21st, 2004 when the Blazers moved Jeff McInnis and Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje to Cleveland for Darius Miles.  The 6'9" small forward had always tantalized with his hops and speed but had not fulfilled his potential with the Clippers or Cavaliers.  He immediately became known in Portland for his thunderous dunks...an instant crowd favorite.  It looked like the headhunters had paused in their scalp-taking to actually add talent to the team.  Portland fans applauded.

The arrival of Miles couldn't dispel the sense of uneasiness around the team, however.  As the weeks progressed all eyes turned to Rasheed Wallace.  His discontent was obvious to all, as was the resolve of the headhunters.  Everyone within 300 miles could see the axe coming.  After he responded to the six-billionth post-game question about his status with "just CTC [cut the check], baby" most of Portland was ready to ride him out of town on a rail.  The move happened on February 9th, 2004.  The Blazers traded Wallace and the just-acquired Person to Atlanta for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Theo Ratliff, and Dan Dickau.  Ironically the king of Portland's rage circus received word about the deal while attending a live WWE event in the Rose Garden.  Just like that, the most prominent player in the last decade was history.

Rasheed would be moved immediately after to Detroit where he would win a championship as part of a star-studded team, more cohesive and organic than he had seen in Portland.  The Blazers, meanwhile, struggled to fit their new hodgepodge of talent.

Abdur-Rahim was a sweet scoring power forward who worked well facing up or in the post.  His rebounding was a little light but he could notch 20 without breaking a sweat.  Ratliff was a one-dimensional shot-blocking center but he'd change the course of a game with those blocks.  It didn't take too many quintuple-swat evenings for Blazer fans to take to him despite his lack of offense or post defense ability.  Dickau was an automatic hit with fans, having grown up in the area as a fan of the team.  The Blazers had hit the jackpot in the character/popularity department.  They also began to win more, nursing a 17-24 record up to a healthy 41-37.  This looked good!

Wise observers noted, however, that the Blazers were capable of beating up on weak sisters but regularly fell to tougher teams.  Four consecutive losses against playoff-bound teams to end the season sealed Portland's fate.  They finished 41-41, 10th in the conference, two games out of the playoffs.  A 21-year run was over.  For the first time since 1982 the Blazers would not play in the post-season.

Just as his team exited the limelight owner Paul Allen re-entered it.  On February 27th, 2004 the Oregon Arena Corporation--parent company of the Rose Garden Arena--declared bankruptcy.  Allen had financed the arena project in an earlier era when interest rates were near quadruple the early-2000's level.  The contract forbade early repayment.  Allen was stuck paying an outrageous sum on a building whose primary tenant was drawing record low numbers.  Bankruptcy was his way out.  Outrage swelled from several quarters.  Small business creditors would not be paid for services rendered at the arena, hurting mom and pop operations.  Among other things the huge creditors depended on Allen's payments to fund pensions.  They began crowing about retirees doing without benefits.  The local media took up the "stingy billionaire" chant.  Allen's name was mud.  The play of the Blazers provided no distraction...indeed worsened the situation.  When the franchise began laying off employees as a cost-cutting measure fans turned to full revolt.  On-court or off, the Blazers became a taboo subject.  When conversation did arise derision reigned.  Once proudly-worn jerseys disappeared into closets.  Sports radio stations slotted the team fifth in the discussion rotation behind college football, college basketball, the NFL, and whatever other story they could dig up for the day.  The Blazers were dead in a town that once embraced them.

The 2003-04 season would be remembered for management controversies, draconian cuts, and for who left the team more than who joined or number of wins.  Despite the disappointment--from the arena situation to not making the playoffs--many thought the Blazers were about to turn a corner on the court.  With Wallace and Wells shown the door the Jailblazer era was over.  They had been replaced by favorites like Randoph and Miles, Ratliff and Abdur-Rahim.  The backcourt of Damon Stoudamire and Derek Anderson wasn't as impressive as once expected, but at least they weren't embarrassing.  Things were looking up, especially when you considered that the by-product of missing the playoffs was Portland's first-ever lottery selection in the upcoming draft.

Little did Blazer fans know that five out of the six names just mentioned were about to enter the doghouse and the lottery pick would not only be underwhelming, it would have ramifications that would haunt the team for years.  The light at the end of the tunnel was a 92-car locomotive.  It would flatten an already-weakened franchise almost beyond their ability to recover.

Next Up:  The Darkest Days

It's kind of like drinking a bowl of rancid soup, but go ahead and share your memories of these days in the comment section if you wish.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Remembering this stuff bummed me out. Before he was traded, remember Bonzi having an incident at a convenience store? If memory serves, he was trying to buy a six pack, got carded, then shoved the six pack at the clerk. When questioned about it later by the press, Bonzi said he didn’t remember and that he “blacks out sometimes.” Bummer.

by Bedhead on Aug 10, 2011 11:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

It’s OK, Bedhead. They hated Bonzi when he played in China. He was a hatible person. Funny how many great “potential” people turn into sacks full of stones dragging your hopes to the bottom of the river.

"All is vanity and vexation of spirit."
http://year5000.bandcamp.com

by Y5k on Aug 11, 2011 3:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ugh

Just ugh

It makes me almost physically ill remembering those days

"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez

by TheGreatMon on Aug 10, 2011 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

It's about to get worser

"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion

by RedUniInLA on Aug 10, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't even read it,

the responses are enough.

Wake me when the game is on.

by Berkeley on Aug 11, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

These are the days when I discovered online chat rooms about the Blazers

first was at o.live. I actually enjoyed chatting about all this stuff, mostly because it was the second wave of my fandom after being focused on college and travel for half a decade or so. I was so optimistic about every new player and really didn’t become more objective until after Theo’s big contract then bust and Miles’ big contract, then bust, then Zbo turning into StatBo….

"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion

by RedUniInLA on Aug 10, 2011 11:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Me too

For that reason these days weren’t as bad to me as others seem to remember it. I was rediscovering basketball after the collapse in 2000.

by jamon51 on Aug 11, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well it was the second half of the 90's that I was disconnected

and 98-99 when I started paying attention again, but as an adult, I was learning a lot more about the game, in more advanced ways: learning to do more than just watch the ball and such.

I kept interested after 2000 for sure, so I took this ride, and was pretty eternally optimistic. Still am.

Yes, I still believe Greg will take the Blazers to the championship. If only for one ring.

Red uni is still a homer.

"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion

by RedUniInLA on Aug 11, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dog bowl of cat puke.

Ugh

"All is vanity and vexation of spirit."
http://year5000.bandcamp.com

by Y5k on Aug 11, 2011 3:49 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I was just venturing overseas 2001-2003 and remember how my big Blazer heart was broken and how my big Blazer talk was shot down. By 2004-2005 I was just about dead at the thought of the team selling or relocating. Man, it was really rough, even from the vantage point of my Caribbean hammock.

"All is vanity and vexation of spirit."
http://year5000.bandcamp.com

by Y5k on Aug 11, 2011 3:53 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

so begins the second jail blazer era

i.e. the jail blazers that sucked at basketball

Steve Smith is my favorite Blazer of all time

by thomasikehara on Aug 11, 2011 5:14 AM PDT reply actions  

bunch of downers, some of my favorite childhood memories come from these teams

after we traded sheed, i was at a blazers vs celtics game.

blazers scored the first 22 points of the game, it was sooo awesome.

i loved theo ratliff a lot, too

Steve Smith is my favorite Blazer of all time

by thomasikehara on Aug 11, 2011 5:16 AM PDT reply actions  

My favorite thing from the Patterson era...

They had a gathering for season ticket holders to talk with Patterson. There were a lot of angry people, understandably angry.

I think it was after Stoudamire’s foil in the airport escapades. Someone from the crowd asked him if he was going to trade Damon. Patterson’s response? “Right now I couldn’t trade him for a chair”. :)

by DrScience on Aug 11, 2011 6:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Abdur-Rahim and Ratliff were truly welcome additions

I remember feeling so-so-so much better about the team, regardless of win-loss record, with these guys on board! (Dan D. too, I guess, but he never felt like a factor… More like an ongoing human-interest story in The Columbian) Both contributed positively to the team on and off the court, and I think they helpd prepare the blueprint for the rebuilding that followed in the Pritchard years. Unloading Sheed felt like an unexpected and full recovery from a chronic illness (pun not discouraged).

by VTDuck on Aug 11, 2011 6:30 AM PDT reply actions  

As a fairly new fan

drawn by the power of the team in 2000, watching the Blazers just crumble was difficult. But Each year, I always had hope that they were going to pull it together. When Theo Ratliff and Abdur-Rahim are your two favorite players on the team, you know you are not in a good place.

I so wanted to embrace Zbo and Miles. (I originally loved teh horns thing after a huge dunk.) But they just turned out to be immature little boys with big bank accounts treating Portland like their own little kingdoms. It took a lot to continue watching games and supporting the team.

I think the thing that sticks with me most was the “Steal of the game” special deals. You would get like 4 tickets to 4 games, a bunch of hotdogs, a jersey, a mini ball, and a meet and greet with the blazers dancers for $60. The organization was so desparate to get butts in the seats, they were nearly giving tickets away.

Can’t wait until we get to 2006 and the heady rush of drafting Brandon and LMA.

by BlazerFanFromDenver on Aug 11, 2011 6:54 AM PDT reply actions  

It really invokes a lot of memories...

…be them bad or good (but mostly bad) about this era. Great job, Dave. I happened to get free tickets to the WWE event that Sheed was at. I clearly remember him being there with at least Ruben Patterson (and I think Zach Randolph, ironically (read: the guy that sucker punched Ruben)). If memory serves me correctly, at some point during the event someone from the back came up to Sheed and crew, said something to him and he immediately and quickly left. I had assumed this is when he found out. The Blazers held a press conference covered on the radio that night and described the move as a “watershed moment” for the franchise. I had loved Sheed’s talent, tried to ignore his salty attitude, but I was pretty stoked at the time to be getting The Rattler and Abdur-Rahim in return. It seemed like we could continue our playoff streak, which was a pretty big deal in a time when your grasping for anything positive. It still seems to me that this should have worked out better…but we all know it didn’t.

by Puddyknife on Aug 11, 2011 7:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I missed most of the next few seasons...

I found out in Iraq how bad the Blazers had become via snail mail. I had more pressing issues (uh war/not showering/and patrols in cities).

by SGT Lenny on Aug 11, 2011 8:31 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Remember Rasheed’s Oregonian interview inwhich he likened NBA players to slaves, and dropped the N-bomb like mad?
Shameful.

"All is vanity and vexation of spirit."
http://year5000.bandcamp.com

by Y5k on Aug 11, 2011 8:37 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I may be a bit early with this comment

But I never understood why the Blazers went from this point, to signing Miles and Randolph to long term deals in the summer. The end of this season is when I actually thought they were going to take their three directives seriously. When they signed those guys, they either really believed Randolph would change with the other guys gone and that Miles could keep it together; or they just could not part with talent in spite of what the track record showed about them.
Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure they could have let them both play out one more season and been able to match offers from other teams the next summer. (Miles might have been a RFA that summer but they didn’t wait for him to get any other offers before signing him.)
I just thought they had enough other talent with character to let those guys go and build through the draft and smaller FA signings and rebuild.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Aug 11, 2011 8:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I remember that they signed Miles without even seeing what ....

….the market said about him

Me after hearing of a Rudy Hardwood Classic Jersey going for $45:"Take the "RNANDEZ" part off....and sew on a "LTON and you are good to go"."

by 92wastheyear on Aug 11, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, definitely over paid too.

I think the team learned a valuable lesson there…. however, one that may bite it in the behind re: Oden.

"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion

by RedUniInLA on Aug 11, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Were there any real issues with their character at that point? D Miles had that, what was it, 48 point game at the end of the season, right? He seemed like a rising star who finally found a good place for him. Z-Bo was breaking out.

At this point the Rattler was blocking everything and it looked like there was some hope for the future of the Blazers.

Still a bummer to think of this roster and having optimism.

by Bedhead on Aug 11, 2011 9:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think Theo was secretly taking injections in his knee

with his agent saying things to him like, “don’t worry about leaving your man open on D if you can go for the block. If you get more 4 block games, Paul Allen will pay through the nose to keep you. These fans get excited as heck around here for the showmanship. Just keep injecting the knees with the pain-go-away juice and we’ll worry about rehab after you ink the contract. Capiche?”

"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion

by RedUniInLA on Aug 11, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both had talent and were promising players,

But neither had distinguished themselves as leaders or as even being very mature individuals. Certainly that would not disqualify them from playing at an NBA level and maybe even contributing to a winning team. But it was the Jailblazer era, as much as it pains me to even use the phrase; and the Blazers were talking pretty big about changing direction and had put out their pledge etc. Signing two immature guys who had showed they might tend towards the same behavior of the recent past, as the key guys to build around without even testing the market to see what they were actually worth around the league, didn’t seem like a smart move.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Aug 12, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was ALL about talent - which looked good.

And desperation, which is not a good place to negotiate from.

Wake me when the game is on.

by Berkeley on Aug 11, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not dark yet...

…but it’s getting there…I think we had 3 deteriations happening during this period. The “Win Now” on the backs of aged stars experiment had failed, and we were left with a rapidly devaluing talent base. Fans who had a decade plus of relative success with the 90’s and early 2000 Blazers were not acustomed to failure, and/or the negative publicity generated by players of dubious character. So the relationship between the franchise and the team was deteriating. Add to it, at least a change in philosophy from ownership. Succeed or fail, Paul Allen had always in the past demonstrated an active desire for the team to maintain an upper echelon position. Suddenly not only did that seem near to impossible given the roster, but ownership no longer seemed as interested or vested in making the blank check moves that had allowed Whitsitt at least a period of success. Simply put? For the franchise this was a period where it seemed almost everything was heading in the wrong direction…it was getting dark…

  Echo’s from this period still haunt me today. What I learned from this period and the upcoming period is that Paul Allens desires and focus for the team are fundamental to the health of the franchise.

  It almost seemed to me that during this period Allen had lost interest, and his priority was no longer as much team success as it was battle lines between himself and his lost interest in the Rose Garden as represented by Portland Arena Management.

  It really seemed for the first time in my memory that the team was being operated without on the court, professional success- being a top priority. And unfortunately it only got worse from this period forward. What was at this point a growing fear…became an undeniable reality.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 11, 2011 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

I can see how PA would be frustrated (as well as fans)

considering the returns on investment to that point.
Managng a team is part of ‘playing a winning game’ – part of champoinship ‘play’.
A number of owners have a desire to win with ample finances, but smart decisions still are pretty essential.
You can fault contract/draft decisions along with coaching and player decisions in evaluating a team.
A bad player decision can cost you a game, a bad GM decision can cost you a lot of games/playoff wins.
We love moves like getting Crash. I, for one, am really frustrated by what I see as a blunder in giving up Andre and effectively Faried for Felton, for instance. But, we’ll see. So far, not so good, considering Felton’s ‘tubby time’. And, in turn, I see that as an example of Nate mismanagement, which I am tired of. Just my falable opinion.
Generally, probably good to not be TOO emotionally dependent on Blazer success.
Of course, there is a ‘luck’ factor, and we could, just maybe, get lucky with Mr. Oden… which would ‘ease the pain’ considerably.

Wake me when the game is on.

by Berkeley on Aug 11, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps...

….I’m foreshadowing a little here. But I see the Nash/Patterson regime as the start of a philosophical change in the attitude of Paul Allen. To be clear? At the genesis of this regime, Allen wasn’t getting a good return on his investment. The difference being in the past? This resulted in usually more spending, and/or take no prisoners deals made by Bob Whittsit.

  I’ll never know, but I see the upcoming period and the philosophy applied as more a result of Paul Allen leveraging for control of The Rose Garden as opposed to a period when he was focused on the actual team and franchise. It almost felt to me, that with his interest in the Rose Garden “split”, Allen reached a point where providing or creating a marketable product actually wasn’t fully in his own best interest. Thus the claim to be putting The Blazers up for sale…

  But that is a cycle ahead. IMO Allens “selling of The Blazers” was one of the darkest times in franchise history.

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Aug 11, 2011 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

A lot of people at this site have said that Rasheed is/was their favorite Blazer of all time.

They should stand up for their love.

I came to so loathe Rasheed. Then of course he straightened up a bit when at Detroit when coached by Larry Brown, whom he wasn’t brave enough to defy, after continually embarrassing the weaker coaches we had here.

ignacio

by ignacio on Aug 11, 2011 1:15 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I really supported Sheed even after we traded him.

most of his jerkiness came in his attitude, but that’s what I liked about him, he played with fire. But alas with the crappy players surrounding him there was little need to play with fire. I hated DA he was way over-billed. Same goes for Theo and Abdur-Rahim. Ahd with Sharif we had a minutes crunch at the pf because of z-bo. That minutes crunch athte 3-4 spots killed team chemistry. I guess it’ll be the next year we let Shareef go for nothing to clear minutes for the talented but unmotivated boneheads Z-bo and Miles.

I remember the ads centered around Theo bocking shots while in the pool. Marketing was tough then and those ads did nothing for me.

by NWfan on Aug 11, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching Sheed's reaction to being traded

I was just a few rows behind Rasheed at that WWE event in the Rose Garden when he got the call. He just started yelling at the person on the phone and then him and his posse bolted out of there. Still one of my favorite all time players, even if he was terrible with the blazers.

by Jeremy Snyder on Aug 12, 2011 8:18 AM PDT reply actions  

These were dark years for many of us.

For me, the dot.bomb dropped on my career in 2001, a lot of us computer jockies were out of work at the same time. I had an important decision to make leading up to this era. I could either pack up my skillset and move to the east coast where many potential healthy employers were, or I could lump it here in P-Town. I decided to lump it and hung my shingle out as a freelancer. Freelancing sucks.

By 2004 I had begun moonlighting as a night cabbie to supplement what I was pulling down in my “day job.” It was one of those situations where the weekends were fun, profitable, and occasionally scary/sketchy. Weeknights were boring, unprofitable, and occasionally scary/sketchy. One of the things I tried to do was to camp the Rose Garden on weeknight games and catch people on their way out. As you might imagine, this was a crapshoot for getting rides, but there wasn’t a train due to arrive at Union Station, there wasn’t much risk of missing other opportunities.

This ended up being how I first ended up listening to Wheels and Tone on the radio. I’d tune into the 4th quarter to gauge when people would start coming out of the arena. If it was a lopsided score in either direction, you’d know that people would start filtering out early. A close game would hold the crowds back till the last minute. Dave managed to name the three guys I remember hearing about most frequently in that time:

The Blazers traded Wallace and the just-acquired Person to Atlanta for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Theo Ratliff, and Dan Dickau.

Although I didn’t realize it at the time, I have to think that part of the reason they got more attention was an attempt to rehab the blazers image. As likeable players for one reason or another, they were the guys who got hyped. They would count how many blocks “The Rattler” would get and so forth. I would occasionally get out-of-towners in my cab who came out of the game, and they would try to talk to me about basketball and I would try to cover up my ignorance of the game by shifting the conversation to the relationship between the fans and the team, something I understood much better via the local media. It went a long way to explain to outsiders why we would trade off Sheed and Bonzi.

"You can pretty much flip a coin to see which Portland team will show up: the dark-horse world-beaters or the mixed-up eggbeaters" - Dave

by conspirator5 on Aug 12, 2011 12:39 PM PDT reply actions  

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