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Steve Nash: YES.

The only logical reasons to reject a perfectly bounced Steve Nash trade is his reportedly declining health due to age and back fatigue, as well his inability to play good D. Let's take a look at Hollinger's stats for Steve last season:

RK PLAYER GP MPG TS% AST TO USG ORR DRR REBR PER VA EWA
22 Steve Nash, PHX 75 33.3 .601 41.9 13.0 23.0 1.8 10.2 6.0 20.81 365.5 12.2

 

For an 'old dude' that is supposedly breaking down, Nash sure overachieved by Blazer standards. 75 games? 33.3 minutes? Those aren't the numbers of a guy on his last legs. I think a lot of people see Nash stretching and laying on his back on the baseline and are immediately reminded of their great-uncle with the trick knee and lumbar issues, when they SHOULD be reminded of Sting or Madonna--or some other celebrity who still "has game" and is aging gracefully in accordance to their particular line of being a bad-ass. Note: I'm not saying Madonna can sing. Nash isn't your lovable old feline laying on the floor with the puddle of drool and the bent ribs--he's a hip cat with an enlarged health streak. Two more years of his current production seems logical.

Anyways, 14.7 points and 11.4 dimes a game are Nash-like numbers, although he could easily score more considering how pure his stroke from distance is. His D is, obviously, the big red flag: A little guard who only averages .6 steals a game isn't pressuring anyone. He's a competitor though. We've seen him guard Nicolas. We recently saw Dallas turn Miami into a fourth quarter jump shooting team with excellent post D and a team concept on the perimeter. They hid Terry and Berea, who himself was able to overcome his size issues with scrappyness, a trait Steve Nash has in spades. All-in-all, Nash is a minus on D, but that's why you have Nate as a coach and Wesley and Wallace on the perimeter--they can do the heavy lifting on D while Nash runs the team.

Most importantly though, Nash fits this roster on offense much better than Dre does. He can run pick-and-rolls, as well as iso-oriented sets, either with or without the ball. From the perimeter he can straight light it up, as well as create his own mid-range jump shot if plays break down. He is one of the best guards in the open floor. Oh, he's also one of the best free throw shooters in history. He's old for a point guard, but Nash, given his experience--and experience wins--is still better than Steph Curry during this next 2 year window. If the Blazers are truly going for a title, he is not only a great fit--he is possibly THE best fit for turning a predictable, oft offensively inept Blazer team into a legitimate contender for the cup--err--trophy. Sorry, got a little Canadian there for a sec...

The two primary factors in making this deal productive are what you have to give to obtain him, and whether or not the Blazers can still acquire a backup PG: Patty is Patty, and Armon will be too busy asking for Steve's autograph to play basketball.

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Steve Nash:
Yes.
51 votes
No.
22 votes
Shut up.
15 votes
(other)
5 votes

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I think Nash is a great all-time player, but to give up any assets to get a PG that’s older than our current PG (who we are looking to replace BECAUSE he’s getting old) just doesn’t work to me.

Nash will continue to be a solid shooter as that won’t fade with age, but his effectiveness as a penetrator and playmaker has diminished, and he has to take long breaks during games to stay fresh. I’d argue that we can bring in someone younger with more years of peak potential if we’re giving up assets

by rip_city_swagger on Jun 22, 2011 10:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I like it, but not that much

it would all be about what else could we get in return and what all we have to give up, Steve Nash would definitely make us better but i dont think i’d give up anymore then Andre, Rudy, and a pick for it. Im giving up Nic for a guy that old struggles that much defensively, unless we got more in return like Lopez, Hill, Piertus or Gortat. I say this because I dont think Nash alone gives us a ring, maybe the nash of 4 years ago but not this one, We would still be a piece away. I’d predict if we simply traded Miller and Batum for Nash the best we’d do is the conference finals

Excellent point about terry and barea, but one can also make the point that both those two are better defenders then Nash. And i wouldnt say there defense was hidden either, I would say it wasnt poor enough to cost them.

by j-rowe on Jun 22, 2011 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Nobody wants to give up Nic.

Honestly, I’m guessing PHX can do better than Nic and some salary relief though.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jun 22, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who cares that he is old.

All we need is a consistently good PG, preferably one that plays at an All-Star level. Nash will give us that for at least 2 years. Which is more than we can say for any Blazer PG over the past 10+ years (except possibly this past season by Andre), and for any other possible PG that we could draft/bring in (though I’m high on the Tony Parker talk). I would also hate to give up Batum, but we will be getting back STEVE NASH. To me, we know we will be getting great PG play for at least a short time, great shooting, and possibly the hungriest man in the Western Conference for a title. We’ll figure out what to do after Nash, well, after Nash. Let’s try to win now!

by TTwice on Jun 22, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Is he even better than Andre at this point, for this particular team?

I suppose he probably is a little, but not enough to give up Batum, which is what it would likely take.

by zbrum on Jun 22, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I kind of agree

Even though I just said I wanted Nash! I have been impressed with Andre since he got here. I have no problem standing pat, letting Andre keep running the point, see what kind of Wallace/Batum rotation we can come up with, seeing what Roy and Oden are able to bring this season, see if Rudy can find his shot again, and seeing what our lucky #21 can bring to the table. Maybe see where we stand and address any issues during the season or right before the trade deadline.

by TTwice on Jun 22, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's the other bummer: I'd hate to see Andre go. He's a rock.

Andre missed a game last season due to injury—injury to the pride of Blake Griffin, that is! Hehe. All-time great Blazer moment.

But yeah—I still think Nash’s shooting and pick-and-roll offense with LMA is not only potent—it gives Wesley more feet-set-open-looks (which he needs and deserves) and Wallace space to slash up the middle of the paint in full beast mode. Not to mention Oden. When that dude gets back we’ll need some shooting. I’d rather not rely on Rudy for that…

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jun 22, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well..

I would of been more inclined to agree with you until you compared Steve Nash to Madonna..

"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"

by Krang on Jun 22, 2011 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, yes, yes and yes

DISCLAIMER: I am an unashamed, blind homer. I think Greg and Brandon will come back, I think LA will be an all-star next year, and I think we’ve got as good a shot as any to win the WCF next year.

I think if Nash came to this team, come December NO ONE would think it a bad move. Come April, we might be amazed that anyone saw this as bad. I can’t believe people don’t see him as an incredible fit for this team, where we’re at.

I am not giving up on Greg or Brandon.
#52
#7

by musicdaniel on Jun 22, 2011 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

That's not blind,

just incredibly hopeful.

/s

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Jun 22, 2011 2:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

For starters, Nash has only one year left on his contract, not two. And who knows how many games we'll have next season.

Secondly, if he’s traded, he ain’t gonna be cheap. We’d have to give up a ton of young talent, and does that really get us anywhere? By the way, for various reasons, Nash for the #2 pick fell through.

by Corvid on Jun 22, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Because that trade doesn't make sense for Minnesota

The team isn’t ready to compete. They are not 1 piece away from playoff contention. They have enough PGs.

by Leif Jensen on Jun 22, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

All depends on what we have to give up for Nash

He changes this team drastically, and mostly for the better. Maybe a Camby/Miller/bench player(s)/Pick(s) for Nash and Gortat.

by Leif Jensen on Jun 22, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I think we could get 3 more good years out of Nash

and he’s amazing. So definitely. YES

Brandon Roy all the way; great Blazer, injured or not: #7

by collectiveshane on Jun 22, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

PHX stated today they WILL NOT trade Nash or even Gortat

and i believe them. Don’t think they want to throw up the white flag and start rebuild mode just yet, which is what trading Nash would mean for PHX. Not to say I wouldn’t love to have Nash for a year or two, I would, but not for PHX’s steep asking price.

" Yeah, this is pretty much me, every day. Staring at butt holes and getting my buzz on. "

by blazethenugs on Jun 22, 2011 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Nope

The “bring Steve Nash here” argument hasnt and wont change in my books.

Henne is the greatest and the Dolphins will go 14-2 this year and win the SB

by zeusmith on Jun 22, 2011 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I've heard that he is 37

and has a bad back.

Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3

by Eat Politicians on Jun 22, 2011 7:46 PM PDT reply actions  

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