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Throwing My Hat into the Trade Idea Ring

Confession: I am normally not a big fan of trade fanposts, they too often seem to be unrealistic for the teams involved. But I thought about this trade, and decided that I would just put it on here for fun anyway. Let's get into it:

Portland Trail Blazers Receive:

-No. 4 Pick in the NBA Draft

-Jonny Flynn of the Minnesota Timberwolves

Minnesota Timberwolves Receive:

-Antawn Jamison of the Cleveland Cavaliers

-Cash Considerations from the Portland Trail Blazers

-Future First Round Pick(s) from Portland Trail Blazers (+No. 21 Pick this year?)

Cleveland Cavaliers Receive:

-No. 2 Pick in the NBA Draft

-Andre Miller of the Portland Trail Blazers

-Martell Webster of the Minnesota Timberwolves

 

Now let me explain: This is centered around a few rumors, namely that 1) the Cavs want to trade up to No. 2 to pick Derrick Williams, 2) the Wolves are looking for a veteran PF to bolster a young team and 3) Portland is looking to trade up to draft either Kemba Walker or Brandon Knight. Here are my motivations for each team on why they might want to do this deal:

Portland:

-Allows the Blazers to receive a point guard with a lot of potential for only having to give up one player. I think any draft day trade, especially for a point guard, will involve unloading Andre. It's not something I like doing particularly, I think we will end up sacrificing some wins in this season to do it, but if the Blazers decide they need to upgrade at 1 this might be the best way to do it. Cash is meaningless, Paul Allen is always eager to dish out when he needs to, especially on draft day. Giving up the picks will mean we are betting on now, but still worth it. This deal is significantly sweeter if Knight is still available with the 4th pick. Flynn is a small consolation from Minnesota needing to dump a PG, but could make a decent backup in the future, and a stopgap for the present, or trade filler.

Minnesota:

-It has been reported that Minnesota has no qualms giving up the 2 pick for the right price, they already are loaded with young players, and since Williams is a near consensus No. 2 Pick it might be more valuable for them to trade him rather than keep him. There have been rumours floating about recently (don't know how credible) that the Wolves are looking for a veteran forward. There was talk of Pau Gasol, but unless they unload Love he is too expensive for them to get. Although Jamison is fairly old (35) he is still putting up pretty good numbers (18 PPG last season) and would likely give the team the veteran leadership they are seeking. Then throw in some cash and picks from the Blazers (maybe even their number 21 pick this year) they just might do this deal. It all depends on how much they value that No. 2 pick in a weak draft. You could exchange any other player for Webster and Flynn, but I figure that they wouldn't mind dumping Martell since he has been underwhelming and Flynn because they are stacked at PG.

Cleveland:

-They get the No. 2 pick, the main reason this trade would happen at all. Although they haven't been floating Jamison's name, he was signed when they were building around LeBron, and now that they are firmly in rebuilding mode loosing him will not hurt much. It will allow them to put their main focus at the position around Varejao, who has shown to be capable. I know the Cavs wanted to get rid of Baron Davis, but there seems to be a slim chance of unloading that contract in this summers market. They could easily choose to not pick up Andre's option, or use him as a trade asset in another trade. Martell can help fill up depth at the wings.

The only team I could see not doing this deal would be Minnesota, if they place more value on the No. 2 than that. But honestly I think it's pretty realistic, if it actually happened. I doubt it will, but you never know. What do you guys think? I'm totally willing to adjust things based off input.

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Good for cavs and blazers

horrible for minnesota. would probably have to include camby or matthews..

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by jbay4 on Jun 19, 2011 5:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Eh, I mean it's not great for Minnesota

But it all depends on what value they are looking for. I don’t think they will get anyone better than Jamison without shipping off a promising star. And Derrick Williams could be a star, but he doesn’t have enough value to pull in someone like Pau. I could see Portland having to unload a player on the Wolves, maybe Matthews.

by BassBall on Jun 19, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

i dont think they are looking for a washed up jamison and cash and a late 1st round pick.
IMO, it would have to be more like… Camby, Miller, 2nd rounder.

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by jbay4 on Jun 19, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are way overvaluing Jamison here

In fact, this would be an absolute dream for Cleveland – get rid of Jamison and his contract for Miller who they can not renew the team option – and move up two spots so they can get Irving and Williams.

You are basically saying Minnesota would trade the #2 pick in the draft for one or two mid-first rounders and some cash. Not going to happen. Minnesota has stated they want a solid veteran, and they are thinking of the likes of Gasol, Ellis or Gay.

I really like the thinking, but you don’t have the right assets in there.

How about something like:

Minnesota gets Hickson, Miller and Batum
Portland gets #4, Ridnour, and a meaningless contract
Cleveland gets #2, and a meaningless contract

Actually, I don’t think Portland and Cleveland would do that. I don’t think Cleveland gives up Hickson to move up two spots, Portland gives up Batum and Miller to draft Knight or Walker.

But …. its a lot closer.

by ATeam on Jun 19, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flynn was not a major part of the deal

Just threw him in for salary reasons and because I figured Minny wanted to deal some PGs. We could easily get Luke Ridnour instead, or have the PG go to Cleveland.

by BassBall on Jun 19, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just in case your new...

I made the same mistake several times before being corrected but it’s (apparently) Blazers Edge etiquette to check the existing fanposts for a ‘trade drawer’ and post trade ideas there.

That being said, I like the idea of getting Flynn for not much but would Minnesota really trade for another PF with Love and Beasely already on the roster? (especially one who’s 35 and making $13million a year)

by jons_guitar on Jun 19, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't understand how this gets us chris paul

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by Eat Politicians on Jun 21, 2011 2:56 PM PDT reply actions  

portland doesn't need anyone at the 4th pick and flynn is nothing.

If portland is going to trade for a pick around 4th overall it should be #2 overall and take derrick williams, then trade away miller and wallace for a star point guard.

or

trade with sacremento for #7 and give up miller (they want him) and take either kemba or knight. whichever is available.

by TheShougPanther5 on Jun 21, 2011 8:48 PM PDT reply actions  

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