Canzano wants the Blazers to lock up Oden long-term. Should we be afraid?
He is more explicit on his radio show than this article, but the sentiment is there. Lock up Oden long-term Blazers or he is gonna leave. Hmm...didn't we hear this from him a couple of off-season's ago with another player with shaky knees?
And please tell me how the Blazers humiliated Oden by not giving him an extension on his rookie contract? That statement by Canzano shows an embarrassing lack of depth.
He mentions 4 or 3 years for $40 million. Why would we make him the 3rd highest paid player on the team for next 3 or 4 years? Now that would be embarrassing. Sorry, but I can't see other GMs giving Oden that kind of offer either. Blazer fans are so panicked right now that they are willing to throw anything at Oden on the slim hopes that he will not be considered a colossal draft mistake...even to the detriment of the long-term success of the team. Look up the term "loss aversion." That is what is going on here with Oden.
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we can't trade him
we don’t have any rights to him until we tender him an offer.
I'd like to lock up Canzano.
And throw away the key!
Hey-o.
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by pixelpusher on May 7, 2011 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
lol
+1
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by KillaPrzydollaBILLA on May 7, 2011 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Be afraid, be very afraid...
I’m afraid Canzano is right. I think either The Blazers commit to Oden at a level that is going to make a lot of fans nervous, OR Oden leaves The Blazers sooner than later. Can you predict the future? Oden is still young. Whether it is The Blazers or some other team, Oden is a gamble. But he’s a gamble a lot of GM’s would be willing to take.
4 years for 40 million…Oden can get that.
Why would we make him the 3rd highest paid player on the team for the next 3 or 4 years? Because of the chance that he becomes the 1st, 2nd or 3rd best player on the team.
There are two camps developing. The Keep Oden or Cut Losses…if anyone can show me a crystal ball and predict the future, then I’ll tell you which camp is correct. If I’m going to make a mistake? I think I’d rather that mistake be I kept Oden….and it didn’t work- as opposed to, I let Oden walk…and now he is great.
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3 years 28 million
With a 12 million team option for year 4 sounds decent to me.
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Give him 4 years
But have the last two years be team options. I don’t like the idea of losing Oden, but he hasn’t proven anything either.
by hoodieNation on May 8, 2011 12:09 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And something like 4 years, 32mil.
by hoodieNation on May 8, 2011 12:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Can't say.
Just seems like a lot to give up for a guy that has basically been hurt his entire basketball career.
by hoodieNation on May 8, 2011 9:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I feel that three guaranteed years is more appropriate, with the fourth year being a team option.
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4 years $48M with a team option for a 5th year. I think that is what it will take this summer (after the lockout).
If he signs the QO he is gone summer of 2012 as an UFA. He will multiple max/near max offers then.
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on May 8, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this is what winds up happening as well.
$40 mil actually might wind up being the low end, given our past history in this type of negotiation.
The cake was a lie.
Blazers are in a 4 years trap with Roy´s contract.
And that´s why they should take risks with Oden for those same 4 years. They are going nowhere without a healthy Oden.
by amlmart1 on May 8, 2011 12:05 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Actually, it makes no sense at all
It’s kind of like saying, well, let’s encourage another Fukushima meltdown since we already have one happening now.
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by scaredcow on May 9, 2011 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the point is
Portland won’t be able to trade Roy’s contract during that time, and they won’t be able to go after any free agents. The players they have are liable to keep them out of the lottery for that same four years. But the only realistic thing that could push Portland into Contender Status during the rest of Roy’s contract would be a healthy Greg Oden.
Roy’s contract has a team option for the final season. So there are three more guaranted years. Oden’s contract should be the same, three years with a team option for year four. It may take more than $40 million for four years. But if so, there had better be some incentives for number of games played in there. ;-)
by Rodney Gustafson on May 9, 2011 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Roy has a player option in the final year...not a team option
No doubt that contract will be an albatross for the next 4 years, unless Portland can somehow off load it. I guess I wonder why you would want to add another bad contract? People are acting like there is no downside to signing Oden to big long-term contract b/c we are stuck with Roy’s contract. If you think that Roy is untradeable, think about what Oden would be with that type of contract. The mentality of not really caring what you’re signing other players to b/c of Roy’s contract is not a smart approach. Otherwise, why not offer Patty Mills 4 years and $40 million too?
by JasonT on May 9, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because Patty doesn't have the potential to live up to and exceed that contract?
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by sammymohawk on May 10, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I noticed you put a question mark after that statement
Maybe you are holding out reservations that Patty will indeed become a 4 year $40 mill man?
haha...no
But I know that Oden is already worth more than that when healthy. I was just making the point that if you give Patty that contract, there is zero chance he lives up to it or exceeds it. With Greg (some may disagree), there is not only the chance that he will live up to it, but the distinct possibility that he will be far more valuable than 10 mil/yr. That being said, there is also the distinct possibility that he doesn’t achieve health and isn’t worth any of it. Hence the fascinating risk/reward debate we’ve been having on the site.
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Hmmmm...
Hoopshype shows 2013/14 as a player option and 2014/15 as a team option.
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland.htm
Regardless of that… I’m not for signing Oden to a ridiculous deal. If you are one of the people that is CERTAIN that Oden will NEVER play again, then any contract would be ridiculous to you. Personally, I am not sure Oden will ever be a 35 mpg guy for 82 games per year. But I think he CAN be a 25+ mpg difference maker for 65+ games per year. That is liable to be worth more than $10 million per year to most teams, Portland included.
The real point is, you can’t worry too much about the cap implications because this team will be over the cap for as long as Roy is on this contract. Since they won’t be able to attract a free agent with anything more than the mid-level (if exceptions even exist in the new CBA), it makes sense to sign Oden to a contract that is in line with Roy’s. The only real hope to contend that this team has for the next three years is for either Oden or Roy to be healthy and dominant. Go all in for three years with these guys. That is the best bet for contention that they have.
Oden’s contract should be three years with a team option on the fourth. If neither he nor Roy are able to give much of anything over the next three years, you have a young core of LMA, Matthews, and Batum. Some savvy drafting over the next few years and the cap space available once Roy and Oden’s contrats expire could leave the team in very good shape at that time.
by Rodney Gustafson on May 11, 2011 7:34 AM PDT up reply actions
All In
Oden is their best free-agent opportunity. Sure, the next four years could look like the last, but it’s not your money. This would be a high risk, high reward investment.
What if he is healthy, even for just 1-2 seasons?
we are already over the cap
and paul allen is a very rich man
Fire Nate; hire Rick Adelman
(time and money cures all wounds)
trade for Iggy
goal for next year: go year without using hardship exemption
I'm no storyteller, but...
if he’s injured doesn’t his salary get covered by insurance? So financially it’s not a huge risk (although there is still the luxury tax issue), and even if we don’t sign him we’ll be over the luxury tax threshold, so we don’t really have any opportunity to sign big name free agents… I think it’s very little risk for such potential… also, if he does start to come good as far as injury goes, he should be hitting his stride as Camby declines- Camby’s contract ($10m/year?) comes off the books at the end of next season, so hopefully Oden’s production should should more than fill the Camby hole in the middle…
by simoninaustralia on May 8, 2011 4:27 AM PDT reply actions
Insurance no sure thing
Part of current CBA allows the insurance company(companies?) to refuse to cover a small number of players each yr.(Insurance is done on a yearly basis.) Players like Yao,Roy and likely Oden are not covered by the NBA’s Insurance policies. Of course the team could get private insurance,but I’d believe the premiums would be pretty freakin’ high.
And NBA Insurance only kicks in after 41 games are missed,and covers 80% of remaining salary. So if a player had a $10mil contract covered by insurance and he went down before season started,the insurance pay-out would only be $4mil.
Me,I’d offer the 1 yr,see what other teams are offering,and if it climbs above $6mil/yr guaranteed,say thank-you for your efforts,it didn’t work out and good luck.
As a Rockets fan,you cannot keep hoping players w/major injury issues are just going to get better. They don’t. And eventually significant portions of the fan base turn on the player(s) because they keep getting injured.
It really bites because you just know IF WE’RE HEALTHY we have a great team,but “we’re” never healthy and each yr gets just a little more frustrating. Because sure it could happen,but it’s like the odds of winning a lottery,someone eventually does,but all those who made the jackpot huge sure didn’t.
pauls money
again its Pauls money and its logical to have similar contracts with Roy. thats assuming he is on plan for recovery
Canzano is failing to look at this from Oden's point of view. If Oden leaves now, he'll basically be following the Kwame career path. It just doesn't look
good to be a top draft pick and end up on another team. You have to at least become a star before you ditch out on a team.
If Oden is the kind of guy that would leave now, after the way fans have supported him, I don’t want him. I’ve supported him since day 1 even the day he got hurt each time. I don’t think Oden is the kind of guy that some people rumor he is. If he really is though, it really is best he goes somewhere else. If you don’t love playing in the Rose Garden, you don’t love basketball.
I'm not sure if 4 years 40 million is even enough to sign Greg
As a RFA he will get offers, and while I believe the Blazers should make him a long term offer before he goes into RFA, I think he will turn that down, and see what the market will offer. With Brandon’s contract on the books for 4 more years, this team is stuck and must gamble on Greg, because there is no other way for this team to improve via FA, or the draft, (since the current team is too good to get a top pick). Unless Cho is able to move Roy’s deal somehow this summer, I think we can bank on Greg being a Blazers for the future.
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4 years 52 million seems on the cheap end to me
If I am Oden I look for something more along the lines of 3 years 40 million so I can get on to a max deal a year sooner.
by Oden Mad, Oden Smash! on May 8, 2011 8:27 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
"If I am Oden" - Ha!
If I am Oden, I just smile and say where’s the check dude? Then I shuffle on back to rehab and jump in the jaccuzi.
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Oden's probably super happy
who doesn’t love rehabbing and being perpetually injured? Money is nice, but so is walking and doing the things you love.
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by sammymohawk on May 10, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It would hurt worse to see him succeed elsewhere
I like what others are saying about an option on the 4th year but I agree with the logic that Oden is your best shot at making a big leap from 50 wins and first round out, to a contender. They don’t have room even without him to sign a big free agent and Roy’s shaky future and big contract guarantees they won’t get as much back for him as he might give them over the next couple of seasons.
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Where is the "logic" in thinking that a constantly-injured player is "your best shot" at anything except repeated failure?
Can we have a measure of lunacy here? Or sanity maybe? Heck, I don’t know.
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Let's be real scaredcow. If we sign Oden and he never plays, are we really that much worse off? We aren't going to get a lottery pick if
Oden just leaves. We’d have to start trading away key players like Andre Miller and Camby.
The cap situation is the last thing fans should be worried about, signing Brandon Roy ruined all that. If some how we do get cap room in the near future, what healthy player that can make a difference is going to come sign here? No one.
Sign Oden, or just scrap everything and start hoping for a top 3 pick in 2012.
by BRoyInThe4th on May 8, 2011 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If that is indeed our best choice then we are the world's most pathetic franchise
I just can’t get over how people want to throw money at a dude whose body won’t let him play.
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I wouldn't keep him for any amount of money that we could keep him at, but I'd also try talk up his trade value
as much as humanly possible, so I could execute a sign & trade and get assets back. I’m hoping that’s what Cho & gang have been doing by releasing these hints of how awesome they think Oden still is and will be.
One huge bad contract is a huge burden. Two are team killers.
This is his second microfracture. The only other player in NBA history that had to get microfractures in both knees is Kenyon Martin. Consider how bad your knees have to be to be having to do these last resort procedures on both knees for only the second time in league history.
Microfracture is a procedure that kills or maims careers, especially for guys that rely on their athleticism for their game as much as Oden does. Even before the second microfracture, I thought Oden’s ceiling was around a healthy Bogut. After the second, what are we really looking at? Maybe a more motivated but more injury prone Brendan Haywood? The projections around here for him after these injuries are wildly optimistic. 4 years $40 million is an absurd number and commitment unless the last three years were all team options. And even then, I’d rather trade him for tangible and reliable assets.
Trade him. Yes. Package him together with Roy and get a few draft picks.
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The real issue here
Normally I avoid reading the columnist you mention (don’t read it in print, don’t click on the link, switch to the Fan from 3-6pm, click on the other writers instead, etc.) because he seems mostly interested in inserting himself into and then stirring up controversy, as opposed to providing real insight and analysis. But this topic has been thrown in my face so many times and it is such a big issue that I feel compelled to respond (even at the risk of having executives at the Game and The Oregonian looking at this and saying, “wow, what a great columnist – he sure incites passion. Let’s extend his contract!”):
-Does anyone honestly believe that Oden intentionally sent this message to the fanbase? This sounds like one small quote pulled out of context from a long interview.
-Do you think Oden and his handlers are that stupid to observe the past four years and say “Portland did you wrong. If only you had been in (New York, Chicago, Miami, wherever), the fans and the management would have treated you much better and they would have built a much better team, facilities, etc. around you. Sign the qualifying offer and get out of there ASAP.” In most other markets, he would have been CRUCIFIED just for Deadspin pictures alone, much less all the injuries.
-Do you think there are any other teams that can offer him more money and a better roster to contend over the next five years? And don’t even mention endorsements because that wouldn’t amount to much for him, even in New York or LA.
Is “the ball in Oden’s court”? Sure it is, on some level. He can pull a Lebron if he wants to (except worse in one sense since he’s accomplished nothing in Portland). But I don’t think it’s in his DNA, or in his best interests financially or otherwise.
My question is why is this being written and spun in this fashion? Is someone attempting to turn the fans against Oden, thereby increasing the chances that Oden says “forget it, I’m out of here”? Because that’s what it looks like from here. And THAT’S the point where I cross the line from merely ignoring the columnists’ soap opera silliness to saying this:
Please… knock it off, Canzano. Your attempts at turning the fans against Oden are hurting the franchise, and possibly even hurting the entire city if it ends up costing us a championship run.
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by The Cactus Leaguer on May 8, 2011 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
4 years at $40 million for Oden would be a HUGE risk
Think about it. 2 of your top 3 paid players for the next 4 years would be Roy and Oden. Resources are not unlimited. You have to be wise about where you put your money.
Think about it terms of a stock portfolio
All your money is invested into 12 stocks.
Your largest investment (Roy) was purchased at the top of the market and then quickly crashed. It may improve somewhat, but will never regain it’s value you purchased it for. No matter what, you will lose money on this investment and cannot sell it off for the next 4 years.
Your 2nd largest investment (Aldridge) was purchased at a high price, but has shown steady improvement and is going to make you some money over the next 4 years. However, this good investment will not make up for the loss the largest investment will give you. You are still at a net negative.
Your 3rd largest investment (Oden) has been a middling investment in terms of purchase price for the past 4 years. However, while this company started off with a lot of promise, it has continually disappointed and is teetering on bankruptcy. You now decide to double down on this investment and contribute more money to this than to many others that have produced far more over the past 4 years. You can’t get out of this one for 4 years. There is small chance this could still pay huge dividends, but in the history of the stock market this has never happened.
These 3 investments constitute 50% of your resources.
Any investor would tell you that this is unwise. It smacks of desperation to throw those kind of resources at a wing and prayer. The Blazers will still have to extend Batum and find a point guard to replace Miller. We already have the 8th highest payroll in the NBA. If you do this move with Oden and then extend Batum, we will be near the top for team salaries. If Oden can’t stay healthy, the Blazers will be become the NY Knicks without the attractive city. High payroll, but not very good. NY could afford to do this b/c they can attract players, but we cannot. We would be screwed for a long time.
by JasonT on May 8, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Poor analogy. In the market you can invest your money nearly anywhere and hopefully pick one of many winners.
The Blazers can’t invest money on any player they want. They can’t invest money on any player but Oden because they are over the cap. Not re-investing in Oden is like pulling your money out of the market and sitting on the cash. You can only reinvest that money in the market slowly (using the MLE in this CBA) and can’t buy superstar quality companies at their minimum investment price. Even if they were under the cap they can’t buy shares in Dwight Howard because he’s privately owned by another investment firm. It could be decades before we have a chance to buy Apple at $18 a share again.
They are very few potential winners in this market and Oden is one of them, even though he has a high risk. We can either try to win in this market or simply sit on our virtually unlimited cash reserves and watch our shareholders deteriorate while other investment firms prosper.
No one knows what the new CBA rules will be. But under the current rules, the more money you have invested the more options you will have in the future. You can always re-sign or trade your big investments for other big investments and stay well over the cap. That’s the advantage that investors with nearly unlimited funds have in this market. It’s the guys that are right around the cap with no big investments that have limited options year after year.
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on May 8, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I guess Dave makes poor analogies too
Shame on you Dave
by JasonT on May 9, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
as balzers Fans go we always think we are going to give nothng and get everything!! kind funny actually. we need a shooting Point Guard we might be able to land the midget from dallas! that would be a good pickup or a nash for a few yrs I think at this point you have to roll the dice with Oden unless some trade on getting Howard here and thats most likely not going to happen. Howard will most likely be a laker
NOOOoooOOOO
This is a classic example of ‘escalation of commitment’ and a major flaw in human thought…. What has oden done to prove that he can stay on the court. I read somewhere (i think it was on BEdge) how he hasn’t been healthy for a full basketball season since the 7th grade!!!
even if that’s not the case, what has he done since college to prove he’s going to stay healthy?? nothing. We’ve had him around for 4 years and he’s only played 82 games. To me thats a giant 7 foot tall sign saying: “my body is NOT made for this type of abuse”.
I have zero confidence that Oden’s body will hold up (even for just 1 full season). Signing him to another 4 years is just asking for another 4 years of: “if only oden was healthy….”
Yes, this is the current sad state of the Oden experiment
The evidence shows one thing very clearly but the team’s fans cannot bear to let go, to be proved wrong. The real question is whether Paul Allen and Rich Cho can stand to let go.
On the other hand maybe there is some wierd business calculation, or tax loss calcultion that makes it profitible to sign him to vast amounts of money without much hope of on-court performance. You know like Darius Miles all over again. Then again, maybe the price for Oden’s so-called potential is objectively small for the NBA. That’s where Cho comes in, right?
then let him go
and when he leaves and he contributes to another team you will be saying how we should of kept him. the only maior flaw in human thought here is that there are some that feel like fortune tellers…Monday quarterbacks!!! you know the all knowing ones!!!! we did know a few things though, we knew that its always a risk drafting Bigs…we knew about his health before we drafted him. Durrant was a safe bet but it was felt that Oden could be the one that got a championship and they still might be be right. every big accomplishments have big Risk. its better then saying “if only we would of kept him.”
every big accomplishments have big Risk.
This is music to a casino owner’s ears.
Maybe I am wrong, but is there any evidence that points to Oden staying healthy and contributing enough to earn this kind of a contract? I was under the impression that the evidence is overwhelmingly against it. This feels like hoping you’ll score enough points to win against the Lakers by only shooting half-court hook shots. You could win with this offensive scheme, but the chances are one in a million.
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sadly the gamble on oden didn’t pan out, straight up, he has been a bust. I’m saying lets get off the dead horse. im not pulling the escalation of commitment theory out of thin air either. take a business psychology class and you’ll see that the fan base is falling into a very common sinkhole. I understand that keeping him around is a risk you want to take to win a championship, all im saying is: based on what we know about Oden’s history of bad health, do you really think he’s going to stay healthy long enough to make a championship type of impact? last i checked, championship cornerstones play more than 1/4 of their games
that is why it is good KP is no longer here.
Rich Cho is not attached to making the Oden pick look good come hell or high water. My only worry is that Paul Allen will not be able to swallow his pride to make the tough decision on letting Oden go if the price is too high.
Yeah, Paul should swallow his pride, conserve his money because he'll live forever, fight for that last playoff spot every year,
watch the Rose Garden empty out, and sell the team to some carpetbagger for a profit. Do you think that’s Paul Allen?
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by BlazerFanSince1970 on May 8, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
so far 108 say yes 20 say no either way time will tell .so far he has been a bust I agree.. i hear what the point is on the moving on argument I have no problem with it…what I am saying is we were taking a gamble in the 1st place…1 cut our losses like you mention or 2 ride it out, we have went this far. also I am not to interested in going back to school for another psychology class but if it makes you feel like My opinions means more to you I can email my grade to you if will make you feel like you are talking to someone with an education like that even matters..know that your opinion is just that your opinion. its worth listening too like everyone elses
guy chill out. im not interested in your grades...
glad you have your own opinion and it wasn’t my intention to insult anybody while trying to make a point, as it seems thats how it came across to you.
so im for cut our losses and you’re for ride it out. Ok. agree to disagree on that one. Then how long do you ride him out? how many chances would you give oden if you were Paul allen?
( in your defense: at least he doesn’t have any more knees that need micro-fracture surgery)
ohhhh nooo's
thats a scary thought. if that happens, dentistry really was his better career choice…
Canzano is often ridiculed on this website
He is derided as “Clownzano.” Funny how sometimes he rides the same bandwagon as a lot of Bedgers.
Oden is a lousy investment. Clownzano should go back to the rodeo. He can wear a big red nose and ride the horses backwards until the bull chases him back to his pathetic little perch in the media where he can continue to look like a fool. Oden is done. No more sports for him.
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It's gonna take a lot more than 40 for 4 I'm afraid.
But with a healthy G.O. the Blazers can compete with anyone. Without him they are no better than the last 2 years.
by heartless bounder on May 8, 2011 11:27 PM PDT reply actions
Go big or go home.
I can’t wait for Oden (in a Blazer uniform) to wreak havoc upon the NBA for years to come.
can we just pretend that 2011-2012 is oden's rookie year?
i think his age is consistent with a 5th year senior coming out of the draft.
let’s just pretend that he was red-shirted his freshman year due to the wrist injury and battled various injuries through the rest of his college career at ohio state. he showed occasional flashes of brilliance, but his injury history caused him to fall to portland at #21 in the 2011 draft, who were allowed to overpay him at $10M/year due to the lockout.
any takers?
there's a huge difference between "battled various injuries" and "two microfractures."
by howlingfantods on May 10, 2011 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions
No, they're exactly the same thing.
Whereas, again, “battled various injuries” is a huge set of which “two microfractures” is a very small and very far to the severe subset of that huger set.
by howlingfantods on May 10, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
it was a joke.
as was the first post that you took way too seriously.
lighten up, this is supposed to be fun.
obviously. and mine was a joke too.
thought that was equally obvious….
by howlingfantods on May 11, 2011 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, there is a difference, at least in English.
A half full glass refers to a glass that is being filled whereas a half empty glass refers to a glass that is being emptied.
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by Troll Blazer on May 10, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a crapshoot
I’m still not sure why people assume he’s going to come back and be a force when there’s ample evidence to suggest that he will not
I lean toward resigning him for the year and not stressing too much about it. If he’s having a good year and is giving vibes he won’t resign, then trade him for assets.
The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct
i would rather have oden at 4 years $40M
than turkoglu at 5 years $53M
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by sammymohawk on May 10, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Turkoglu at 5 years and $53 mill
than Darius Miles at 6 years and $48 mill.
This a fun game…follow up a bad contract with another “less bad” contract and actually feel better! Let’s call it the “NY Knicks of the 2000’s game.” Now instead of one bad contract you have two. Awesome!
by JasonT on May 10, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
haha, i like it!
i think ea sports might want to pick up your idea.
sidebar: what’s the worst contract the blazers have ever had? i would offer up kemp for the blazer portion of his contract of 4 yrs @ $53M. i guess he ended up getting waived and agreed to give back some salary, so maybe it’s not the worst?

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