Blazersedge Mailbag May 20th, 2011
It's Friday and that means more Blazersedge Mailbag questions sent in by you, edited down to digestible form, and answered here for your pleasure and discussion. Feel free to chime in any answers of your own and generally further the conversation in the comment section. Pretend like someone asked you these questions. How would you answer?
Final Answer: Will the Blazers keep Greg Oden?
Yes. They can't afford not to unless something changes drastically. Look at it this way: Pretend the Blazers were fielding only the aging and injured Marcus Camby and young, untried Chris Johnson at center and you had a chance to trade for Oden. Injury history and all, wouldn't you do it? How about if you could just get him for cash considerations? Portland fans would be plenty excited about that prospect. Forget the last four years and pretend that's exactly the situation now. Pay $8-12 million per year and take a flyer on the big guy. What do you lose besides that money and the cap hit? Where else are you going to find a better center prospect?
The Blazers had an opportunity to extend Greg Oden prior to October 31st but chose not to. Why? Their goal now is to "lock him up" even though the future is LESS certain and he's considered LESS reliable health-wise. If a long-term deal was their goal initially, why not do it the easy way?
The situation was different then.
As far as Oden himself goes, they expected him back and playing. They expected more of a basis on which to gauge his play. If he was out of this world they still had the option of offering him a maximum qualifying offer. If not they could comfortably let him go into restricted free agency, perhaps knowing that contracts in general would be cheaper in the new CBA and they could get him for less. Failing that he'd have to play healthy for two years if he wanted to go the unrestricted free agent route. If he could do that, they could probably open the pocketbook for him at that time. It was a gamble but not a horrific one.
The real game-changer here was Brandon Roy's injury and apparent non-recoverability. Had Roy been Roy the Blazers would have been looking at an excellent team, perhaps made great by the addition of Gerald Wallace...a team which might be able to get by with a Marcus Camby and a non-secure Oden. They'd prefer Greg but the future would still look bright with a journeyman center. They were bargaining with Oden from a position of strength. With Roy down for a limping eight count now they're weak. Oden goes from an incredibly nice addition to the only hope of regaining former promise. Now they can't afford to lose him. None of that was true on October 31st.
Would Greg Oden have any loyalty to the team if he hit unrestricted free agency?
You'd have to ask him and he won't tell. My bet would be no. I mean, it would be a crappy thing to just ditch the franchise but people have done worse. Dumping anybody is crappy but once you're over it, it seems like a good deal. Fans in Cleveland would have sworn LeBron James was staying until the moment he made The Decision. Now he's dancing with the pretty playoff girls in South Beach and Cavaliers fans are home watching House, crying in their beer, and hoping that they can find someone just like him (only a little more faithful) on Match.com in the draft lottery.
I assume if the Blazers paid Oden he'd be fine with staying. That's likely what they'll have to do to retain him.
A year ago the consensus was that the Blazers' defense was subpar. At the end of this season, it seemed quite good. But in the playoffs, it was overwhelmed. How would you appraise the defense now?
Opportunistic but inefficient.
The Blazers finally started gambling for turnovers and creating pressure on opposing teams this year, something observers have been crying for year in and year out. Along with those turnovers came a few more running opportunities, another rallying cry. You saw the Blazers take advantage of guys like Rudy Fernandez, Wesley Matthews, and Nicolas Batum: length, size, nose for poking away the basketball.
But check this:
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Stat |
League Rank |
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FG% Allowed |
20th |
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2PT% Allowed |
22nd |
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3PT% Allowed |
24th |
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Effective FG% All. |
22nd |
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Opp. Shooting Eff. |
20th |
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Defensive Reb.% |
25th |
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Defensive Eff. |
15th |
There isn't a big enough turnover margin in the world to make that defense anything more than mediocre. The biggest issue is the defensive rebounding. They need to shore that up not only so they can better pursue their ball-control game plan but so they can run even on possessions that aren't turnovers. If they can rebound and shut down the middle even a hair better than they already do the Blazers should see their defensive prowess rise.
The other big issue is, of course, the pick and roll. Portland's guards need to charge harder. Portland's bigs need to show and retreat better. Everybody needs to communicate better. Theoretically even the copious switches that the Blazers (sometimes maddeningly) employ should be more effective now that most defenders are 6'7" or above, athletic, and fairly quick. But all of that goes down the tubes if technique and effort aren't there.
Click through for questions about Brandon Roy's future, free agency, Rudy Fernandez, Nicolas Batum at shooting guard, and more.
What do you expect from Brandon Roy going forward?
More than we saw this season, less than the Blazers need. Even the coaching staff is apparently doubting he'll ever be All-NBA caliber again. But he can contribute. He has to contribute. This team needs him badly still. I expect him to want, and get, his starting job back. I expect him to play limited minutes. But I expect him to average at least 15 ppg again at some point in the near future and I expect him to become one of those players that takes shots, scoring first and worrying about everything else after. I also expect him to return to his fourth-quarter go-to status if the Blazers need one bucket to win it. I do not expect him to last as a back-up point guard but I do look for him to play point-two, so to speak.
Will the Blazers dump Roy if there's an amnesty clause?
It'll be tempting. Even if it was just luxury tax relief, depending on where that line is losing Roy's contract could save the Blazers $15 million next year, up to $68 million for the life of the contract. Even if Paul Allen was able to endure that the Blazers would have to think about it seriously if there's also cap relief and the cap is low. They'd have to wait 4 years to make the contract tradeable and even then they'd have to find $19 million in salary to make a trade work. Meanwhile next year Roy's contract alone takes up 23% of Portland's cap burden. He and Aldridge alone take up $30 million of whatever the cap is the year after. Think about that. If the owners got their $45 million hard cap (unlikely) two players would take up two-thirds of it. You'd have $15 million to pay the rest of the team which would include Nicolas Batum, Gerald Wallace, and probably Greg Oden. Then you need a point guard, a bench... Maybe those contracts get scaled down but until we see the actual numbers you have to believe that dumping Brandon is a live option.
Was this Rudy Fernandez' last season in Portland?
I'd bet yes unless some miracle move got made with Roy. He just isn't producing enough and the Blazers have too many shooting guards. Rudy isn't anything but a shooting guard either. Somebody might yet take a flyer on him in a trade, combined with other outgoing Blazers of course.
How many of the Blazers' playoff problems can be pinned on Nate?
This is an open question. The Blazers make other playoff teams look good. But the Blazers are also injured. But how long can you go with the injury excuse before you say, "This is the team we have, period, and we've got to make something of it"? Then again, what if 48 wins is making the most out of what's there? If you want a percentage, I'd say 25%. Portland lost the series by more than that.
It became apparent in every moment that mattered save the fourth quarter of Game 4 that the Blazers had no punch capable of knocking the Mavericks out of this series. In some senses the coaching mantra "We had our shots but didn't hit them" was true. Technically I thought they had a decent plan. But that wasn't the whole story. Rebounding, getting to loose balls, do-or-die-trying effort...these were missing. Some of that is coaching. If I have a critique of Nate it's of the "too calm, too rational" variety. You want to keep an even keel and have your team focused. Even if you win an emotion-driven game you're going to lose the next one when you let down. Also this team has heretofore been quite young and needed that calm, focused demeanor to play their game. But the boys are grown up now and this was the third straight first-round playoff exit. It was time to rally and the Blazers didn't. It's time for these boys to become men and sometimes men need to kick a little tail. I'd like to see them inspired to do so. Part of that is coaching. The emotional adjustment just wasn't there...the buttons weren't pushed at the right time.
Regardless, Nate is with the team for next season for sure and under contract for two more. That's not a bad thing. I'm not sure another coach would have taken the Blazers over Dallas anyway. But we've got to see more growth this year. The trend of being good enough or better than they should be has got to give way to actual winning, especially in the playoffs. If that doesn't happen this team needs an overhaul and that includes the coach.
Who should Rich Cho target in Free Agency?
We're in limbo with this until we find out what the new CBA will entail. But under the current system the Blazers would be looking at someone they could sign under a cap exception, probably a partial one. If you're going for starting point guard you're not going to find it in free agency. Same for any kind of promising center. The Blazers already have plenty of shooting guards and small forwards. They might look at a bulky, veteran power forward who could play a few minutes, maybe save a couple games for them. Think Kurt Thomas, Chris Wilcox, Etan Thomas, maybe even Reggie Evans...that kind of thing. People always want to talk about prize free agents like Jamal Crawford but they're way too expensive and usually not enough of a perfect fit to justify the price. Think cheap, useful, filling specific holes and leave the team revolutionizing to trading, drafting, or just developing the players you already have.
Would Nicolas Batum succeed as a Shooting Guard?
He needs to be better at dribbling and creating his own offense.
In retrospect, was Martell Webster for Luke Babbit a major blunder? Would Martel have had a meaningful impact on the playoff series?
The Blazers didn't need Martell Webster and Webster didn't need another season of playing spotty minutes behind Nicolas Batum and eventually losing them all to Gerald Wallace. I doubt his confidence would have been high enough to make a decisive difference against Dallas. People forget, but even though he is a good shooter he also used to miss wide-open threes like the current crop of Blazers do. He wasn't reliable.
I caught plenty of grief during last year's summer league for saying that I didn't see anything distinguished about Luke Babbitt's play early on and didn't expect him to get many minutes this year. That's how it played out. But let me say now that you don't bury a guy who obviously wasn't ready to contribute immediately. You let him develop, learn, see if he can earn some minutes, and then judge him. It's too early to tell if Babbitt can develop a serviceable game. I wouldn't have screamed if we had drafted someone else but I'm not giving up on Babbitt yet.
I wouldn't call the deal a blunder either way.
What other sports/teams do you follow?
I get asked this a lot. You know, I used to be that guy who listened to national Sports Talk Radio all the time, could tell you anything you wanted about the sports stories of the day. Then I had kids. And Blazersedge became huge. And my day job got demanding. And most importantly of all I figured out that all of that knowledge about sports translated nowhere except the world of sports. I was spending all my time pursuing something that was self-perpetuating and not much else. It was like earning a college degree that was only good for teaching the subject you just learned about. So I pretty much quit. I still listen to Sports Radio for entertainments sometimes. But these days I only follow what I'm passionate about and as far as sports goes, that's the Blazers and not much else. Maybe that makes me a one-trick pony but my second trick is my kids, my third is my job, my fourth is writing, my fifth is having great relationships with friends, my sixth is cooking, my seventh is music, and so on. I like that better than the days when I was Mr. Sports Wiz. That's no condemnation against anyone who does follow everything. In some ways I wish I still had those credentials. But I just can't manage it anymore.
More mailbaggery next week. Send questions to the e-mail address below. Please put "Mailbag" in the subject line for ease of sorting. If I haven't gotten to a question you've already sent, hold on. I still have several dozen in my "to-do" file.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Yup, gotta resign Oden
What is everyone’s best guess that he’ll be signed for? I’ll start:
4 years @ 10, 11, 12, 13 mil, the fourth at the team option, sounds like the ballpark we’re in.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
ABSOLUTELY!!!
They have to give this guy serious dough, for as long as the Roy contract has left on it (4 years). They’re already anchored with Roy’s deal, not gonna hurt to add Oden. Not adding him does not add any more flexibility, at all. If he’d take 4 years for $46 mil, do it tomorrow. The big worry: does he want to leave? If so, making a guy very rich can have some sway over that, but if he feels he’ll be healthy again and doesn’t want to be here, he simply won’t sign. At least then we’d know we’d have to sign and trade to try and get something back. Just signing the qualifying offer, from the Blazers point, would be stupid to do. Either sign him big, let him walk, or try and sign/trade him.
Well, it would depend on the next CBA, but that sounds about right if the next CBA is much like the current one.
However, my prediction is that cap will shrink by at least $5-7 million. So, I’ll go with 3 year, $26 million.
The cake was a lie.
wow, really interesting way of making me think about the Oden situation
I was already on board for signing him but looking on it from the outside in it’s a no-brainer.
by mynamehere1212 on May 19, 2011 10:58 PM PDT reply actions
grumble
It was like earning a college degree that was only good for teaching the subject you just learned about.
This sounds like every advanced college degree now-a-days.
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
I hear you but I hear more and more
about friends and other people getting masters that further their career.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
Yup.
The MA in American history made me eminently qualified to work in the _______ industry (fill in the blank).
Still, no regrets.
As for Oden, I’m very much on the fence for him. If he had any trade value, I’d pursue that with a vengeance. But his only value now is as an RFA.
Do I think he owes the Blazers? Absolutely. They’ve paid for multiple surgeries, extensive rehab, and given him millions in salary, and gotten VERY little in return.
Agree.
He owes the team and the fans.
Plus he’d be risking tens of millions of dollars by becoming an unrestricted free agent. He doesn’t have the luxury of health to count on. If the fall comes around and he has another major orthopedic problem, very possibly a carreer ending one he’ll still have millions from what he’s already been paid but the real money will have been lost.
So I’m counting on Greg to come back. If he doesn’t then we’ve got major problems.
by doomsdaymachine on May 20, 2011 6:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Worked for that guy in "Choke"...
“The MA in American history made me eminently qualified to work in the _historical reenactments_ industry (fill in the blank)”
Wow.
Hopefully that was said in jest. Stay in school, kids.
Get ahead of the curve and start hating OKC now.
by Nigel Tufnel on May 20, 2011 4:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
master of science.
much more versatile and lucrative than master of the arts.
Whoops! Posted before reading this thread.
Teachers are great. No shame in that.
Stealth > Wealth
by Adam Randall on May 20, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Works for me.
Nobody can guard him, apparently.
he's the only small guard that I'd like to see play for Portland
he plays the position like a power forward/ballerina
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Yeah but don't you just want to facepalm him?
Not that I’m advocating going all Bynum on him, but he bugs.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
well sure, when he's the opponent
but he bugs enough to stick opposing big men with 5 game suspensions
gimme some of that bug on my team
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
It's often the guys you hate to play against that you really love having
"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'
If you’re going for starting point guard you’re not going to find it in free agency. Same for any kind of promising center. The Blazers already have plenty of shooting guards and small forwards
Don’t just look at the list of current free agents, also consider the players who have large long-term deals who could become amnesty casualties. Their former teams will pay off the remaining salaries, but after that they’ll be on the market for the highest bidder.Cho and his fellow GMs should be able to find some real bargains from that group. (This all depends on what happens with Roy, and Paul Allen’s willingness to keep spending after the lockout is over)
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I wonder if Memphis will try to sign Gasol to a new deal...
and get out from under Conley’s long term contract?
Probably not, but a boy can dream.
Stealth > Wealth
by Adam Randall on May 20, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd be more inclined to waive Rudy Gay
they received better team play from Battier and Tony Allen at the wing after RG went down
the combo of Gasol and Randolph were deadly in the playoffs, there’s no way I separate those two if I don’t have to
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Sadly the two most promising centers in free agency that we might be able to afford are Dalembert (prediction: will sign with Knicks) and Mohammed (prediction: will re-sign with OKC)
So I’m in favor of going after a shooter in free agency, with Vujacic filling the Rudy role as a cheap but reliable scoring option. If they want a veteran backup PG, that would also be available (though not really for a shooter role in combination with PG skills). Backup banger PFs Dave listed are nice, but that might get filled with Faried in the draft and isn’t my biggest concern, someone can be found cheap for that. SFs become interesting should the Blazers move Batum in a trade, there are some nice veterans in this free agency crop.
All in all I think the 2011 free agency class is very deep in rotation players, but lacking star power after Melo and Parker already got extensions leaving pretty much only a banged-up Yao as a marketable star. So it doesn’t even get 10% of the attention ESPN & Co gave it last year. But if you want to make a push into the playoffs or a push from fringe playoff team deeper into the summer this is a great year for you. Unless the next CBA eliminates the MLE ;)
what about the potential amnesty clause guys?
AK and I listed some of these names earlier, and there are big men with bloated contracts who can still play but are currently overpaid. The trick will be to outbid other NBA teams for their services, when/if they’re bought out by their current teams. In this regard, Paul Allen is the best resource that Portland has
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Would Nicolas Batum succeed as a Shooting Guard?
He needs to be better at dribbling and creating his own offense.
Martell Webster played “SG” in Nate’s offense with no better ballhandling skills than Batum, ditto Wesley Matthews and to a lesser degree, Rudy Fernandez (no left hand)
Nic can come off a screen, catch and shoot. We saw some of that this season. The “shooting guard” position in Nate’s system shouldn’t be defined by what Brandon Roy has been able to do. There are sets where Batum could do well as a catch and shoot 2, even though his primary position is wing. Of course the key position to fill is the backup 1, whoever that player is will need to run the offense better than anyone we’ve seen since Blake was traded
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Marty, Wesley, and Rudy are middle-to-below-average (or worse) NBA 2 guards.
Wesley has room to improve, but it’s safe to say Marty’s inept ball handling (and horrific post passing) make him a less effective weapon on offense. Certainly Nic can be a catch-and-shoot kind of player, but given the fact that wings with a great handle are rare, a good NBA offense generally needs a 2 who can get his off the dribble. OKC is an exception, because Durant and Harden are effective at straight line drives to the hoop. Let’s see Nic put the ball on the floor like Harden was last night. Instant turnover.
wha??
by Hipster Olympic Team! on May 20, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Matthews said he was going to work on his ballhandling, and slim down
when he was on with Adam and Casey the other day
Nic has played guard for the French team and I expect him to do more of that, this summer
Portland needs better ball-handling from their shooting guards, especially if Roy is let go. No one is disputing that. The question was can Batum play the 2? The answer is: under certain situations he can do the job for limited minutes. Not that he should start there next season, or play 30 mpg game at that position.
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
That's great to hear. I hope both of them work (heavily) on their handles.
Batum is so skilled—there should be very little the guy cannot do. It’s like Andre’s 3 point shooting—I’m baffled it isn’t better by now. Matthews I would expect improvement from, simply because he is such a dedicated player. I love both players, and if there is room for optimism, it is due to their age.
wha??
by Hipster Olympic Team! on May 20, 2011 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Handles are almost always something guys either have or they don't by their high school ...
years. The same goes for rebounding, although that’s more of an effort thing and can be improved upon somewhat. In the NBA, the one skill guys tend to improve at over time is three-point shooting efficiency. To that effect, I’m perplexed Andre Miller never took the time to fix his broken jump shot and increase his shooting range in the process.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
In Portland, Martell Webster rarely played the 2 on offense. During Webster's final season as a Trail ...
Blazer, he even played the 4 more often than the 2.
http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR8.HTM#5man
http://www.82games.com/0910/09POR8.HTM#bypos
In addition, Webster’s turnover rate went through the roof with the T’wolves — as he went from averaging 1.1 turnovers per 36 minutes and having a 7.8% TOV% in 2009-2010 to averaging 1.9 turnovers per 36 minutes and having a 12.8% TOV% in 2010-2011 — which was mostly caused by him being forced into more minutes at the 2 in Minnesota.
http://www.82games.com/1011/10MIN7.HTM#5man
http://www.82games.com/1011/10MIN7.HTM#bypos
As you can see in the above link, Webster’s turnover rate whenever playing shooting guard in Minnesota was ghastly. That’s noted by him averaging 3.1 turnovers per 48 minutes and having a 0.74 assist-to-turnover ratio at that position. He fared much better at the small forward position in ’sota, which is no surprise.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
Argh.
Dumping anybody is crappy but once you’re over it, it seems like a good deal. Fans in Cleveland would have sworn LeBron James was staying until the moment he made The Decision.
First, Lebron didn’t “dump” Cleveland. He was an unrestricted free agent with the right to go anywhere he wanted. He chose wisely. Second, Cleveland got incredible value out of his rookie contract. He made them relevant (and very good) for several years. I don’t feel sorry for Cleveland, or their idiotic owner. I feel sorry for Portland though, who drafted a guy first, got nothing of value out of him, and might lose him as a UFA at the end of next season. THAT’S pathetic. Screw Cleveland though.
wha??
by Hipster Olympic Team! on May 20, 2011 8:35 AM PDT reply actions
Dumping as in stringing along
and then crapping on them on national TV. I agree the choice was in LBJ’s best interest. The way he followed through with it though qualifies as “dumping” in my opinion. Maybe a different definition of dumping but dumping nonetheless.
Fair enough.
He definitely didn’t go about it the right way.
wha??
by Hipster Olympic Team! on May 20, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Jerry West set to join Warriors front office
thoughts?
"We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. We forge our tradition in the spirit of our ancestors. You have our gratitude." - Rich Cho
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on May 20, 2011 9:14 AM PDT reply actions
I wish he would have joined ours last summer
I’m content with Cho, but West has built champions and there’s no substitute for experience
I expect the fortunes of GS to rise, but it may take 5 years
Phil Jackson has kids living in the bay area, I wonder if the Logo upgrades the roster if he will convince P-Jack to give it one more run, in a year or two?
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Jerry West is old and should retire.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
He may be old
But the man definitely knows basketball, the art of the deal and how to build winners. Something we have not done (at the highest level) since I was 4 years old sadly…
Right now, I bet the man thing Jerry West will bring to the table is championing Brian Shaw ...
as the team’s next head coach. Not sure what level of impact he’ll have on player personnel, though.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
the Cardinals thought the same thing about Walt Jocketty, as their GM
then the Reds hired him and won their division
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
If Brian Sabean can miraculously win a World Series ring, then so can any GM.
Well, any GM who isn’t named Ed Wade.
Oh, and with regards to the Cincinnati Reds, I feel bad for y’all having Bill Bavasi, Dick Williams, and the incompetent Joe Morgan working for that organization, even if it’s
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
Ugh, I hit enter too soon there.
Let me finish my original thought here: “[…] even if it’s in non-executive roles.”
All right, fixed it.
Also, I mixed up Dick Williams. That’s my error, sorry. The Dick Williams working for the Cincinnati Reds isn’t the ancient one who had a long managerial career during the ‘60s/’70s/’80s.
Ah, it’s late and, well, I make mistakes. No big deal, though.
"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."
the Reds are a traditional organization
So they’ll bring back former stars to work with the kids in spring training, etc
Li’l Joe is just the latest example, I don’t mind having an old school set of eyes in the organization, they have plenty of sabr-metric data available if they need it. The Reds have enough OPS in their lineup, what they need are more ground ball pitchers in that ballpark
that, and money to pay Brandon Philips at the end of the season
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
On Oden....
….I think the more precise question becomes “Can The Blazers Keep Oden for longer than 1 year?”.
I think the idea that The Blazers should continue to gamble on Oden, is"almost" a no brainer. Yes, you want the chance at the young 7ft center that “might” become healthy and be one of the better centers in the league.
Where everything get grey….is at what cost? Oden isn’t coming out with undying declarations that he want’s to be here for the next 5 years, or that he is hoping The Blazers offer him a long term contract….infact he seems to be saying he realizes at some point this becomes HIS DECISION….
I actually thought Ben Golliver…said it well on Blazer TV. I’m paraphrasing from memory, so correct me if I’m wrong…but Ben basically said, you want Oden…but there is a limited to the cost. You want a lot of things, but with all things there is a cost inwhich something becomes prohibitive.
So IMO that’s the rub with Oden. Would the cost to The Blazers, in making Oden an offer large enough to make him abandon the idea of a fresh start elsewhere be so huge that making it would be prohibitive or far too risky and damaging to the franchise?
With the CBA coming up, a potential lock-out….this becomes a “Perfect Storm” of everyone hold on….this isn’t going to be smooth sailing.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
Oh no...
I expect (Roy) to want, and get, his starting job back.
It makes me sad to hear this. So sad.
Stealth > Wealth
Why....if gets it back it will be because he is playing well
Me: "I heard the BCS just bought March Madness.......the vote should be out tomorrow and we will see Duke and Kansas in the championship game"
by 92wastheyear on May 20, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
What about defense?
Taking Matthews out of the starting lineup leaves one solid defender (Crash), and nobody who can keep up with guards. Also, what is the new definition of playing well? Dave seems to think 15ppg would be fine, but we’re already getting that from Matthews, and he plays defense. Furthermore, what about LMA? Does he go back to being #2? And Andre? Does he give up the rock?
Starting Roy would set the team back a season. I think we need to take the rotation we ended with, add a center, and build, build, build.
Stealth > Wealth
by Adam Randall on May 20, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Use games 3 and 4 as the template
16 and 23 respectively …both wins. I repeat …if he is playing well enough to grab the staring spot…that is a good thing for the Blazers
Me: "I heard the BCS just bought March Madness.......the vote should be out tomorrow and we will see Duke and Kansas in the championship game"
by 92wastheyear on May 20, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
@500dogs
I had to see my knee specialist and asked him about BRoy, he said he is basically done. He may have a few good years but that is about it. I asked him about the PRP and he couldn’t give his personal feelings just that it was an experimental procedure that has no scientific proof to validate any claims.
With the above, if true, it would be crazy for BRoy to play as least starters minutes. Let him come off the bench, and bring his shooting, inwhich we need desperately off the bench and maybe being a closer because Matthews will be the starter in a couple of years anyway if not sooner again with Matthews drive, if he is not good enough now he soon will be and BRoy is on his way down fast and Matthews is on his way up fast.
Anyway like you said it is sad and I agree we should keep the rotation the same until either Greg or another center can help out. BTW, I asked him about Greg and he said maw he is a bust we should have drafted Durant and left LOL. I ran after him and ended up betting him $5.00 that Greg would be back. It is not wise to bet with a knee specialist as famous as Knute Buehler is
hg
Thanks for the research!
I hope you win that bet.
Stealth > Wealth
by Adam Randall on May 20, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks as well!
HG. That’s good info coming from the horses mouth (ie a knee specialist) and knowing how you feel about wanting to see the best from Roy. Lately I’ve been feeling like we should sign and trade Oden, but I’m not as attached to the players as you. If they both do stay in Portland well then I hope they are as healthy as can be and utilized well.
I expect Wesley Matthews will be Portland's starting 2 guard
whenever the games resume
OTOH, Roy may not even still be in Portland
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
It was like earning a college degree that was only good for teaching the subject you just learned about.
What’s wrong with that? I’m going to school with the goal of being an English/Writing teacher. Of course I’d love to write for Rolling Stone, but I’d also adore the opportunity to help the next generation of students to appreciate great literature, and express themselves clearly.
Teachers have been some of the most inspirational figures in my life, and I’d be honored to join their ranks.
Stealth > Wealth
I think the key word in that quote is "only"
It was like earning a college degree that was only good for teaching the subject you just learned about.
Me: "I heard the BCS just bought March Madness.......the vote should be out tomorrow and we will see Duke and Kansas in the championship game"
by 92wastheyear on May 20, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Is there such a subject?
Stealth > Wealth
by Adam Randall on May 20, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
There are tons of mathmaticians
But i agree with the Art
Me: "I heard the BCS just bought March Madness.......the vote should be out tomorrow and we will see Duke and Kansas in the championship game"
by 92wastheyear on May 20, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell that to the concept and storyboard artists that work in the video game industry.
Fastest growing entertainment media.
If I were to pick a subject without much beyond teaching, I’d go with philosophy. You have to be pretty brilliant to make a living outside the school system if that’s your focus.
Stealth > Wealth
by Adam Randall on May 20, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
What was that major that the lady in Groundhog Day had??
That sounded useless
Me: "I heard the BCS just bought March Madness.......the vote should be out tomorrow and we will see Duke and Kansas in the championship game"
by 92wastheyear on May 20, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
oh...I found it
Rita:“Mm hmm. Of course it’s about a million miles from where I started out in college”.
Phil: “You weren’t in broadcasting or journalism?”
Rita: “Uh unh. Believe it or not, I studied 19th-century French poetry.”
Phil: [laughs] "What a waste of time! I mean, for someone else that would be an incredible waste of time. It’s so bold of you to choose that. It’s incredible; you must have been a very very strong person. "
Me: "I heard the BCS just bought March Madness.......the vote should be out tomorrow and we will see Duke and Kansas in the championship game"
by 92wastheyear on May 20, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
and then the next day
Phil was rocking the French poetry
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
The Blazers will go nowhere with Roy
he will not let go of the idea of who he is with the team and Nate can’t let go of the idea of him as a son. It puts the team in identity crisis mode.
If he goes somewhere else he’d be better off and would play well. Here, he’ll be depressed and will oftentimes feel like crying during games. The team will be saddened, the fans will be saddened. it will rain extra and the gray skies will be a deeper shade of gray
Uh oh dave
You’re gonna catch some grief with your wife if she ever reads this one:
Maybe that makes me a one-trick pony but my second trick is my kids, my third is my job, my fourth is writing, my fifth is having great relationships with friends, my sixth is cooking, my seventh is music, and so on
I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
8th is my mistress
9th is the girl I’m trying to get to be my next mistress, 10th is needlepoint…am I forgetting anything here?
—Dave
Putting all your eggs in one basket with the Blazers seems like a a risky proposition.
Go Blazers! But really, no other sports teams at all? What about college teams..Ducks or Beavs?
"It's probably a twelve-day. He needs two days to wake up." - MJ on a ten-day contract teammate
by NorthWest Connection on May 20, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Oden isn’t getting anywhere near $40 mil over 4 years as a reward for 82 games played in 4 years. His injuries aren’t little nagging strains or sprains. Another cause for concern is these knee injuries weren’t caused by incidents the team could identify. Nobody can say for sure how the cartiledge in either knee was damaged. And Oden has shown he is not a very good or speedy healer. Portland will commit themselves to him for a few more years, but only if the price is right.
Hopefully the Blazers will extend offers to Marc Gasol and DeAndre Jordan. If Portland can’t sign either at least they can push the price up for whoever does get them.

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