Could the pickssist better measure the kind of offensive teamwork that Przybilla or Nash provides?
Joel gets his shoulder polished. via eco-munity.com
The idea is to measure an aspect of teamwork. This stat would work something like a cross between assists and continuation. The stat people would pay attention to each pick and screen, but would only count the ones that directly led to a score (like assists).
If a player receives a screen, then takes one dribble (or does not dribble) and shoots and scores, then the screen would count (like continuation). If a player receives a pick, but then continued past the defender for more than one dribble before shooting, then the pick does not count.
Go beyond the jump to see why I think a stat like this would have any relevance whatsoever...
Still with me? Wow, you really *are* a basketball nerd. Most people's eyes have glazed over by now. Ok, let's discuss this.
In this way, a player like Joel Przybilla would have a stat that measures more of his impact on the floor than just rebounds. It would also show why Steve Nash is such a good creator. That guy dribbles right at his teammate's defender, then drops the ball behind him to his teammate while he screens the defender. Nash's stats would show the pickssist as well as the assist for such a play, describing what Nash does more thoroughly via the statistics.
Basketball is starting to use more advanced and holistic statistics, but is a bit behind sports like baseball. The plus/minus is a rudimentary tool in this direction.
I submit to you, the esteemed readers of BE, that the pickssist statistic would be an even more telling tool, and would provide devoted and devout stat people to see that it's not just some undefinable "scrappiness" that makes players like Joel Przybilla valuable beyond their rebounding and size. It's their ability to provide aspects of the offense not yet measured- aspects measured by the pickssist.
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who is that polishing Pryz's shoulder?
kinda looks like Martell…
I like the idea of a pickssist, however I think you’d have to be a little more lenient, or more or less similar to the assist definition rather than only taking one dribble for it to count, etc.
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by thankyouforblaze on May 13, 2011 2:31 PM PDT reply actions
Yea....that looks like Marty
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by 92wastheyear on May 13, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I can see the benefit of more leniency
I just wasn’t sure how far to go with it. What are the parameters of an assist for it to count?
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by Matthews vs Roy... Fight! on May 14, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how to quantify it,
but picks and screens sometimes have value beyond an immediate payoff, like getting a mismatch or a guy open in the corner off a double screen. How specific do you want to be?
I would want to preserve the measurability of the stat
Aspects like creating a mismatch bring in too much subjective judgement. In order to demonstrate that the pick created real value, it must have led to a score. So, as long as this can be clear enough to be accurately and universally applied, that is the main thing.
Faith applied reasonably is practical magic.
by Matthews vs Roy... Fight! on May 16, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
It will be a very effective screen...
…against statisticians with lisps.
Although the profession itself is already well-guarded by its name.
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Damn! I miss Joel's screens!!
It just seems like most of our screens by big men that weren’t set by either Greg or Joel (i.e. Camby, LMA, etc.) were just little brush screens and defenders had no trouble going over the pick and reestablishing the D on their man. Joel laid the HAMMER with that polished shoulder, and in a legal screen way as well.
LET'S PLAY SOME DAMN DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!
by Batum Shakalaka on May 16, 2011 3:22 PM PDT reply actions

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