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Game 63 Recap: Trail Blazers 89, Magic 85

In a Nutshell

The Blazers overcame a sporadic performance by forcing turnovers and hitting just enough threes, getting just enough post attempts from LaMarcus Aldridge, and grabbing just barely enough rebounds in the fourth quarter to win.  LaMarcus Aldridge once again proves the backbone of the team with defensive assists from Marcus Camby and Gerald Wallace.

Game Flow

The entire first half of this game can be encapsulated thusly:  Orlando packs defense into the lane.  Portland misses three pointer after three pointer.  The Blazers force turnovers to limit Orlando's points, bailing themselves out of their miserable distance shooting.  Andre Miller provides a few extra points via the mid-range jumper but LaMarcus Aldridge, though also connecting with jumpers, never posts up anywhere near the lane and looks like a shadow of himself.  The Blazers lead 47-43 at the half but there's no telling which way the game will go.

Both teams got serious in the third period.  Wesley Matthews played good denial defense on Jason Richardson early.  Without J-Rich or Dwight Howard the Magic simply couldn't score.  Lacking definitive scoring opportunities they continued to turn over the ball.  Behind Marcus Camby and Gerald Wallace the Blazers rebounded the heck out of the ball and began to run out.  A few zippy passes provided a quick dunk or set up open jumpers which finally started falling.  Behind a couple threes the Blazers led by 13, 60-47, with 5:50 left in the third.  Then Jason Richardson hit a miracle three against the shot clock which lit him on fire.  J-Rich scoring opened up the field for everyone else and the Magic started storming back.  Richardson, Hedo Turkoglu, and Gilbert Arenas all hit long jumpers in 150 seconds of court time.  Then Portland's second unit came in and the Magic started scoring closer to the hoop.  All together the Magic scored 16 points in 5 minutes.  Meanwhile Portland's offense fell off the rails as those outside jumpers stopped falling again and they had to force inside shots against multiple defenders.  Only two Roy jumpers to end the period kept Portland ahead, 70-66, when the horn sounded.

The fourth period was interesting.  It started with Richardson again connecting and looking like he was going on a full-fledged spree.  Orlando splashed 3 threes between the 10:00 and 8:00 mark of the period.  But the Blazers decided to go down firing.  Patty Mills and Gerald Wallace attacked the paint and scored and then Roy connected from 20.  But things still looked dicey as the Blazers got only tentative shots from Aldridge.  Finally midway through the period LMA posted up within a foot of the lane instead of eight feet away from it and he scored twice. With Orlando's interior defenders now watching Aldridge, Wallace got to sneak in for offensive rebounds.  Suddenly Orlando's lack of size--a non-issue to this point--started to show.  Wesley Matthews provided the back-breaker, hitting a triple with 3:00 left to put the Blazers up 7.   Orlando could only manage a three-pointer after that, frittering away the final 15 seconds of the game clock while down 4.  The Blazers win, 89-85.

Notable Developments

1.  LaMarcus Aldridge had a very good game but it should have been spectacular.  Though guarded by smaller players all night he never established deep post position until late in the game.  Part of this is attributable to his teammates not hitting any open threes, of which they had several.  Even a couple deep connections would have spread the Magic defense.  Even so, Aldridge didn't even attempt to set down low.  When he posted he was 18 feet from the basket, playing right into Orlando's hands.  Stopping his moves from that far out looked comically easy.  On the rare occasions he did post deep he either scored or got fouled.

2.  Portland's defense was head-scratching confusing, especially early.  Their plan was obviously to deny Richardson the ball, which they did with aplomb most of the game.  High marks there.  But other than that they consistently scrambled into indiscriminate double teams.  Would somebody explain to me why you would send help against Hedo Turkoglu 20 feet out on the court or Ryan Anderson in any position?  Portland is supposed to have one of the best defensive corps in the league with Matthews, Nicolas Batum, Gerald Wallace, Marcus Camby, and even LaMarcus Aldridge.  With 4 of those 5 guys on the court the Blazers were still scrambling against decidedly non-scary players.  This allowed open threes on the weak side...an Orlando specialty and their ONLY chance of keeping in this game.

3.  To the defense's credit, Portland again poked away multiple turnovers...18 in fact.  This is becoming a staple of their play and is attributable to all of those guys we just mentioned.  If the Blazers could reliably turn that defense into offense they'd be scary.

4.  It's pretty evident that Gerald Wallace brings things to this team that nobody else does defensively, rebounding, and even on offense.  His drives to the rim are awe-inspiring.  Sadly his teammates don't know how to look for him yet.  I counted 3-4 incidents wherein Wallace was wide open off of a screen-roll or a cut but the dribbler never even looked at him, let alone made the pass.  Had he received the ball he would have destroyed Orlando's defenders and likely the rim.  We haven't seen near the best of Wallace yet.

5.  In the end Portland won this game.  That's the main thing.

Individual Notes

LaMarcus Aldridge shot 10-18 for 24 points.  Orlando didn't have anyone to defend him but this was one of those nights when for long stretches he defended himself by taking himself out of his prime scoring zone.  His teammates also ignored him for a while.  He had but 3 rebounds.  It was a really good game but not one of his better really good games.

Marcus Camby was all over the glass tonight, changing the game with his rebounding and defense.  He had 10 boards, poked away a couple steals, and generally bothered the shorter Orlando players when they came in the lane around him.  He was a spark.

Gerald Wallace was that kind of spark and then some.  He also had 10 rebounds, a steal, and a block.  He had a couple of Crazy Man drives in the fourth too when Portland was pussyfooting around on offense.  His defense is not only technically good--a la Batum and mostly Matthews--but it's powerful, a characteristic neither of those two worthies possess as yet.  I'm telling you, when he gets acclimated and unveiled fully this guy is going to be one of your favorite Blazers of all time.  What he does isn't subtle.  Everybody can see it.

Andre Miller had a really nice game, particularly in the scoring department.  He shot 6-11 for 15 points with 7 assists and actually bothered to get (and hit) shots inside the arc, avoiding the brain-freeze-induced brick-fest that plagued his backcourt cohorts.

Brandon Roy went 4-8, again favoring the jumper but hitting it well enough.  This game begged for him to fly out of the phone booth but he never did it, only peeking out slightly late in the third.  His defense wasn't sharp, but that's an old story.  9 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal in 24 minutes.

Nicolas Batum went 4-8 for 9 points and played acceptable defense.  My issues with him were two.  First, he went 1-5 from distance on wide open shots.  Wide...open.  As I said a game or two ago, these kind of shots should be at least 50% hittable for any average NBA player and maybe half again that for a good shooter.  They're practice shots.  But Nic's inability to hit them (his teammates' as well) shows something about the mentality of this team.  Even with all the skill and size there's a certain confidence, swagger, killer instinct missing from these guys.  Far lesser players murder opposing teams when given the shots that Portland routinely misses.  Batum also had but 2 rebounds.

Ditto in general for Wesley Matthews who also went 4-8 and saved himself with that late three-point connect to go a respectable 2-4 for 13 points.  He did great denying Richardson.  He had 0 rebounds and 2 assists though.  Some teams are just begging to be taken advantage of and, like Batum, Matthews doesn't always do it.

Rudy Fernandez went 1-4 from distance, 1-6 overall, and ended up with 5 points.  He did have 3 assists and 2 rebounds though.

Say what you want about Patty Mills (and I have) but he has that devil-may-care, gonna-kill-you instinct against teams that can't guard him.  He shot only 2-7 tonight but at least it was an aggressive 2-7.  Do I like that shooting rate or the fact that a reserve point guard puts up 7 shots in 14 minutes?  No.  But for purposes of illustration at least Patty is going to do what the heck Patty is going to do instead of just kind of taking the game as it comes.

Stats of the Night

  • Blazers 36 rebounds, Orlando 39.  No Dwight Howard?  That's a bad stat for Portland.
  • Blazers force 18 turnovers.  That's a good stat for Portland.
  • The Magic score only 22 points in the paint.  That's a good stat for Portland until you realize that they held the opponent to 22 points in the paint and only won by 4.
  • Blazers 8-25 from distance.  Did I mention how wide open the shots were?

Odd Notes and Links

Blazers Broadcasting showed about a dozen Portland fans in Orlando's arena tonight.  You could identify them immediately.  They all had on red and black and none of them were remotely tan.

Casey Holdahl also made it into a camera shot.  That's a good thing.  Holdahl=Ratings.

Boxscore

Orlando Pinstriped Post will be glad to have Dwight Howard back.

Your Jersey Contest scoreboard and the form for tomorrow's Miami game.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Thanks, Dave

Another well thought out and written analysis.

Faith applied reasonably is practical magic.

by Matthews vs Roy... Fight! on Mar 7, 2011 10:36 PM PST reply actions  

What do we do about our "shooters"?

Teams have been packing the paint on us massively since some time around the all-star break. I think we could do good this year but this particular weakness has the ability to derail any playoff run we try to make.

Even one guy in the J-Rich mold that could make opposing teams pay dearly for that strategy would make us so much better.

Any chance we can brainwash Wes, Rudy or Nico? Wes showed that 3pt assassin swagger for a bit when Roy went down. Maybe he’ll get it back.

by poorwebguy on Mar 7, 2011 10:38 PM PST reply actions  

Who was our shooting coach the last few years again?

And why isn’t he working for us this year? Is it too late to rehire him?

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Mar 8, 2011 1:34 AM PST up reply actions  

John Townsend.

Just looked it up.

Cho released him. Bad decision. Really wonder if this is hurting us more than we might think.

Being a Blazer fan is not exactly healthy.

by dpnim on Mar 8, 2011 1:37 AM PST up reply actions  

give up 1 point ...

that 3 point line can be great, BUT you do lower the percentage every inch you sneak back. Why not set up 2 feet in for the fist part of the game to get a feel and then move out once you hit a few. Watching this rain of crummy shots from left field gets annoying after miss after miss after miss. The guys were wide open enough to step in a little all night.

by MPP24 on Mar 8, 2011 7:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I always liked the "get a rhythm" approach

If the outside shot isn’t falling, then attack the rim and try to draw some fouls. A trip or two to the free throw line usually helps a shooter get into a good rhythm. Then their outside shots tend to fall easier. This is what I’d like to see Matthews in particular do more of. It seems like once he misses a shot or two early, he’s in a funk for the game. He should instead get to the line to get his rhythm going.

by Rodney Gustafson on Mar 8, 2011 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

get easier shots?

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Mar 8, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Those 3s are wide open

and the paint is completely packed. It’s actually getting to where I worry more about Rudy shooting with a couple of seconds to think about it than I do with Rudy shooting a sideways, fading 3pt with a hand in his face.

by poorwebguy on Mar 8, 2011 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I love batum

But it is clear wallace needs to start. He gives you what matthews and batum brings but in one player. As soon as he goes in you can see a difference

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by svlittle on Mar 7, 2011 10:45 PM PST reply actions  

With LA in the post, Crash off the wing and...

a pass first pg in Miller guys like Rudy, Matthews, Roy and Batum should be killing teams with open triples. When they’re not hitting doubles and defensive rotation is simplified. This team could be scary good if the “shooters” can find some consistency.

by westsportsbias on Mar 7, 2011 10:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Exactly

But it is always feast or famine

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by svlittle on Mar 7, 2011 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

LMA should hand bosh some tissue before the game

Speaking of which, did anyone see Ron Ron on game time. He said if he was in that locker room he would of given everyone hugs and ice cream. I pray VH1 will give this guy a reality show. Life on planet Ron

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by svlittle on Mar 7, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously

Ron Ron totally should have his own reality show. He’s such an interesting guy, I would watch that, and I’m not a fan of reality Tv.

by gtbassett on Mar 8, 2011 2:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Andre is one step closer...

to becoming one of the ten best assist men to play the game.

Respect!

by westsportsbias on Mar 7, 2011 10:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Once they figure each other out and if Roy can give us 90% of what he was

How do y’all think our big three of LA, Roy and Wallace stack up against others in the league

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by svlittle on Mar 7, 2011 10:53 PM PST reply actions  

That would be a good question, but we are a long ways from 90%

Better yet how about the big three of the future in Oden, LA, and Wallace

by Kazper on Mar 8, 2011 1:03 AM PST up reply actions  

wait a minute....

We’re a long ways from Roy being 90%, but Oden is close???

I’d say we’re closer to 90% Roy right now than Oden on a court. I want to see Oden return, and think he will. I’m not sure he will be the dominant force we all hoped for, but he will be a high level impact player at both ends of the floor. But at this point in time right now, Roy is much closer to 90% than Oden is to stepping on the court.

by Rodney Gustafson on Mar 8, 2011 8:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I see both points.

It is true that BRoy is closer to 90% then Greg is in stepping on the court. But there is a danger of BRoy not making it to 90%, His timing and game shape will improve but with his knees, he is still in an uphill battle. Greg is getting better and has more going for him. regardless of the debate, Greg has two healthy knees and BRoy has none.

Long short, BRoy is damaged merchandise and can still be productive, but is in actuality on his way out. Greg is healed from all his injuries and starts out with a healthy body, since his injuries are unrelated and not prolonged, and is on his way in.

BRoy is still productive. So for one or two years we could have two big threes of Greg, LMA and Wallace. A big three of BRoy, Greg and LMA. Or how about a big four of BRoy, Wallace, LMA and Greg with Dre feeding the players at the right time.

hg

by BBK on Mar 8, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the big four idea... :-)

I understand what you’re saying. We have no idea whether Roy will ever be 90% of what he was. I think most of us here hope he can be 85% of what he was.

But let’s be honest… We also don’t know that Oden will ever even play again. Yes, the prognosis on his recovery looks good at this point. But it is an unknown.

I would say that until more is known about Roy AND Oden, this team has a big two. Wallace and Aldridge. And one of those two is new to the team and trying to find his way.

by Rodney Gustafson on Mar 8, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Well we still have the big three or four

Dre is old, and still plays a mean game of BB.
Matthews is young, and still plays a mean game of BB
Wallace is new, and still plays a mean game of BB
LMA is the go-to guy and still plays a mean game of BB
Camby is old and wise and still plays a mean game of BB
BRoy is crippled and still plays a mean game of BB
Batum is shy and still plays a mean game of BB

I guess you can take your pick of the big three or four, but I think the new concept of team BB is defensive output, which like Mike Rice says, You offense can come and go therefore your defense needs to stay constant and you do that by playing team d.

Oh did I ever tell you that I am a relentless homer and love all the players. GW is new, but he is now a Blazer. and after last night is becoming a favorite. Two different styles, but he can get to the rim like BRoy used to.

That is why I like BRoy as our shooting guard when Wallace is in. He can set up Wallace, where Matthews until he grows has a little tunnel vision towards the basket.

hg

by BBK on Mar 8, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Roy may very well be @ 90% of his capability....I think his knees limit him.

That and his being on the same side of the floor as LMA when he should be in the 3pt corner…

by Natsthecat on Mar 8, 2011 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

He had a couple of Crazy Man drives in the fourth…What he does isn’t subtle.

We’re singing from the same choir book, here’s what I wrote earlier tonight, on another thread

Crash caught the ball 15-20 feet away from the basket and in typical Wallace fashion, made a beeline to the front of the rim. He basically dares the opponent to stand in his way and take the charge, and he puts the pressure on the ref to make the call. There’s nothing subtle about this, and there’s nothing really to teach Gerald other than to pick his spots and keep hammering away at the opposition (not unlike Bayless last year.) Portland has needed this kind of player, Matthews has provided some of the same penetrating ability, but Crash is inexorable

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by two4larue on Mar 7, 2011 11:01 PM PST reply actions  

Even when he can't finish, that pressure on the defense should make everyone's life alot easier

Crash has scored everyone of his blazer points by hustle

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by svlittle on Mar 7, 2011 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean, besides the surprising consecutive 3-pointers he made the other night?

Another streaky outside shooter, we’ve got a roster full of ’em

As I mentioned following the trade, I like the toughness that Crash brings, and the “take no prisoners” attitude. Miller and Matthews have some of that as well, but Wallace is over the top

(I know no one wants to hear this, but…) the Blazer’s bench needs some of that scrap

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2011 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting comparison to Bayless...

When I watched Wallace take it to the hole with authority twice in the fourth quarter last night, the first thing I thought was, “Geez, if he can start dishing off to an open post man when the defense collapses, that move will be unstoppable!” I hadn’t made the comparison to Bayless, but that was what we always wanted him to learn to do effectively as well…

by Rodney Gustafson on Mar 8, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

I am not a BB whiz, but Crashes moves regardless of the ball going in is poetry in motion and I am completely awed by his play. Wesley tries to be like that, but he hasn’t the handles yet. Batum could take lessons from Crash on assertiveness and drive. Therefore I think G Wallace is as much a factor as a mentor, much as Camby and Dre is as he is a contributer. At anyway we got us a good one and a keeper. And I was all for staying Pat. shows you what I know.

hg

by BBK on Mar 8, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Just got done rewatching the game

And I wanted to point out our ball movement was great. Should of been a 30 plus assist night

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by svlittle on Mar 7, 2011 11:03 PM PST reply actions  

Before anyone ever complains about Mike Rice, they should listen to

Matty Goukas doing the Magic play by play. He has to be the worst I’ve ever heard, and I hear them all with League Pass. The dude obviously does not watch any game tape of the Magic’s opponent prior to the actual game itself. I doubt he has seen a Blazers game all year other than the other time they played the Magic. All his info was obsolete with regards to the Blazers. It was pretty funny to listen to though. First he says that LMA doesn’t score in the paint, then they contradict themselves by saying that LMA was leading the league in alley oop dunks. What Dwight Howard wasn’t leading the league? D’uh. It’s no wonder that Goukas isn’t getting any more coaching offers. Hopefully his scouting of opposing teams was better when he was the coach.

by rhaegar on Mar 7, 2011 11:04 PM PST reply actions  

he also said

patty mills was one of the best PG defenders in the league.

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by lanepete on Mar 7, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Rice was talking up Patty's defense the other night, too

I mean, Mills hustles and he scraps…but, really? smh

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Mills looks like a good defender

Because of his on-ball pressure from beyond the 3 point line. And he is out there. But his defense is not good where it matter – from inside the arc. He’s not strong enough to prevent penetration, and he’s not long enough to bother shots. He also gets blown up by the high screen on a regular basis – not strong enough to fight through it.

I’m surprised a seasoned veteran like Goukas can mistake good on ball pressure 26+ feet from the basket and mistake that for good defense. If NBA players took shots out there, Mills would be all NBA defensive 1st team

by zeusmith on Mar 8, 2011 6:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I noted the same thing

I posted the same thing on Mike Barrett’s blog.
He also said that the reason we were playing so hard is we needed the win more then Orlando. That is like Barkley saying that Portland beat Denver because Carmello was just going through the motions and not really playing BB.

He said that LMA couldn’t make free throws since he never shoots them as he is a strictly perimeter player. And they showed the tape of Van Dundee crying about Howard being abused with 500 and some fouls at the same time they were saying that the Magic was catching up by being more physical down low. I was LMAO. I am like you with NBA package I have never heard an announcer so far out of date.

hg

by BBK on Mar 8, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Regarding Gerald Wallace

I’ve never seen anybody drive the lane with such abandon that he becomes almost horizontal, four feet above the ground, by the time he is underneath the basket. This cat is all-out.

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by OhOhOden on Mar 7, 2011 11:05 PM PST reply actions  

that is why they call him crash.

hes a little insane, but boy its fun to watch when he scores

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by lanepete on Mar 7, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Kersey
I’ve never seen anybody drive the lane with such abandon

There was a reason why he was called Jerome Crazy

Ruben Patterson’s nickname was Cap’n Chaos (the other one was Junkyard dog)

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I find Wallace's drives a bit frightening

The dude looks like he is going to get himself killed or stuff the opposing player into the hoop. I think he needs to tone it down a bit if he wants to avoid spending too much time on the IR. Even Mercy Kersey wasn’t that crazy later in his career. I can only think of Lebron or Dwight Howard as two other guys with that size and athleticism driving to the hoop, but even they don’t do it when they can plainly see a defender in front of them. Perhaps only Craig Ironhead Heyward can truly compare.

by rhaegar on Mar 8, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Good game for Peppermint Patty

Actually, kind of a forgettable game, stat-wise.

But nevertheless a good game because of the chutzpah and verve that Patty showed. No question that magic juice is contagious and does indeed produce magic.

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by Love on Mar 7, 2011 11:32 PM PST reply actions  

peppermint patty

lmao

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by lanepete on Mar 7, 2011 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Patty gradually starting to win over the non-believers?

Probably not, but I do notice as his numbers ever so gradually grow in terms of output (his energy nd enthusiasm is obvious), that Blazers fans are starting to see a role for him beyond bit-part player into fully entrenched back-up PG and potentially beyond.
Possibly wishful thinking from a Patty-loving Aussie, but I have enjoyed watching his output over the last few games.

by AussieTom on Mar 7, 2011 11:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Patty gradually starting to win over the non-believers?

Not really. I think most people of BE know what Patty is as a player, and respect his attributes as a teammate. We all know he’s Aaron Brooks lite, and there’s a place for a change of pace guard who can knock down open shots. I don’t think any sane person think Patty will ever be a starter though. He is what he is, a volume shooting undersized 2 who brings pace & energy to the game and can score points in bunches from time-to-time. There’s a place in the NBA for these types of players although it will never be as a starter, as Patty is a below average defense, low FG%, undersized 2, yet can be effective as a change of pace guard as volume scorer.

by zeusmith on Mar 8, 2011 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

i ,too

 share your love of wallace. cant wait to see him unleashed and fully acclimated. you can see him slowly get into the team spirit, patty just needs to get him involved and get the chemistry going. that sounds odd, but it makes sense.

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by lanepete on Mar 7, 2011 11:51 PM PST reply actions  

I think it's more likely that Rudy will get Crash "involved"

no look lob passes FTW

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by two4larue on Mar 8, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

It seems like no one on the team has ever heard of Gerald Wallace, the All-star...

Would it be too much to throw the guy a bone? Run a play for him? Give him a lob when he’s wide open? It’s ridiculous. He needs to start, and start soon.

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by RenoBlazerFan on Mar 8, 2011 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I think expectations for our 3 points shooters are out of whack.

8/25 from three is fairly respectable. That’s 32%. Two extra shots that rim out go in and you’re at 40%, which is what the league-leading (in terms of 3pt%) Spurs are shooting.

Everyone says feast or famine with our 3 point shooters—well—on 3 point shots, you shoot so few of them compared to shots overall, you’re going to see a wider range of deviation from the mean. So the mean may be 37, 38%. You’re not going to see that every game. You’ll see some 30% nights and some 45% nights. Heck, you may see some 20% and some 60%. It’s just the way it’s going to work with such a low volume + far distance from the hoop.

And that’s just as a team—if you drill down to the player level, calling 2-4 on threes for Rudy a good night and 1-4 on threes for Rudy a bad night is kind of silly IMO. It is what it is. Or saying that Wes “redeemed” himself by hitting a late three that moved him from 1-3 from behind the arc to 2-4. 1 out of 3 is still an average of 1 point per possession—same as 50% two pointers. Andre gets praised for shooting 6-11, but Wesley would have got pounded for shooting 1-3 behind the arc?

In short, just think ya’ gotta’ give the shooters a break. We don’t have a roster stacked with elite 3 ballers like Jason Kapono or Steve Novak, so I don’t think we should expect 50% on threes. 8/25 is within the acceptable range for an average game on the road.

by prezofdeath on Mar 8, 2011 12:23 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

Rec

Always nice to counter perception with some number crunching. Look at it another way… had we made even a single additional three pointer during the first three quarters, the fourth wouldn’t have looked nearly as close as it seemed.

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by conspirator5 on Mar 8, 2011 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

while i agree mostly, and that's a great point...

those normal type numbers are with a hand in the face or at least someone closing, if you’re as open as we were tonight you really ought to be doing better than we did. especially with the 3pt being a big part of these guys game and why their out there.

by extraneous solutions on Mar 8, 2011 1:57 AM PST up reply actions  

good point.

it would be interesting if someone could dig up advanced stats for typical percentages for open threes.

by SaveOden on Mar 8, 2011 4:13 AM PST up reply actions  

this

No excuse for missing wiiiiide open shots every game. These guys shoot those like free throws in practice. If you have a guy closing out on you I can understand it a little better but we’re getting no respect from a lot of teams.

We need a perimeter assassin. Someone has to pick up this mentality because other teams are giving us freebies that we’re not cashing in on.

by poorwebguy on Mar 8, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

well said

and like I said above I think we would be better served moving in to see where we are at. It’s obvious to me when the team is just cold. The obvious solution move in a little and the percentage goies up.

by MPP24 on Mar 8, 2011 7:11 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to see our team get layins like every team we play against

Can you make that happen?

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Mar 8, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

if you don't have the ability to hit the shot stop taking so many of those shots....

there are more options in the game then just a drive to the hoop or a 3 point shot. Portland needs to get more of those mid range jumpers.

by MPP24 on Mar 8, 2011 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah but you have to keep the defense honest by knocking down wide open threes

otherwise you’re not punishing them at all for focusing the D on LMA

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Mar 8, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

It’s like a blueprint against us at this point and we need someone to make other teams pay for using it.

by poorwebguy on Mar 8, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

2 or a 3

i think you aply more damage to a team with a made shot regardless if it’s a two or a three. I think Portland’s range is in one step from the 3 pont line. I think you can still keep a team honest and have the same affect and be a lot more consistent.

by MPP24 on Mar 8, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't necessarily disagree with that

but Rudy Fernandez set an NBA rookie record for 3s, Nic Batum was at 40% last year. There’s no reason that we shouldn’t have that kind of range. No NBA team should be avoiding wide open 3s so they can take a long two.

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Mar 8, 2011 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

when your 3 point attempts

are completely wide open and uncontested, you should be shooting significantly better than 32%. If I’m not mistaken a 32% average would put you dead last in the league. We have to convert open shots. There is no excuse for missing 17 wide open 3s out of 25 attempts…these are NBA level shooters.

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Mar 8, 2011 8:16 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

There are kids I know that would go 6 of 10 on wide open 3s

Doesn’t account for pressure or a million other things but still lol

by poorwebguy on Mar 8, 2011 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I will have to say touché, but I will still have to go with Live by the 3, die by the three.

With the NBA defensive schemes clogging the paint, the 3 pter and midrange jumper is a must though.

hg

by BBK on Mar 8, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

As soon as Gerald Wallace learns our play book

he is gonna beast in our system. Right now, he looks totally confused and out of position alot. I definitely noticed our players not passing to him wide open, which was slightly discouraging. When he goes to the rim he sure means business, he should do that every time he gets the ball.

by cavejunctionblazer on Mar 8, 2011 12:58 AM PST reply actions  

Blazer broadcasting put a group of my friends on camera lol.

The ones where Barrett said they looked like they were in the “Buena Vista Country Club.”

I didn’t even recognize my friend in the hat…

"Im ready for a fight..." -Joel Przybilla

by KillaPrzydollaBILLA on Mar 8, 2011 1:28 AM PST reply actions  

Start gwallace.

Seriously.

OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!

by TyboOSU on Mar 8, 2011 3:28 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

yes.
he will make lebron cry.

by SaveOden on Mar 8, 2011 4:13 AM PST up reply actions  

i'm not going to be all that surprised

when Patty has a 20 point game sometime soon.

by thesecret on Mar 8, 2011 6:56 AM PST reply actions  

I think Fernandez needs to step up

If he can’t start being consistent with his shooting, he’s going to lose his minutes to Batum and Roy. As good as Fernandez can be passing the ball and making some steals, if he can’t hit his shot, the value diminishes greatly. He is in danger of becoming irrelevant with the addition of Wallace and healthier Roy. I think McMillan is getting fed up as Rudi only plaed 16 min last night, and missed at least 3 wide open shots.

by zeusmith on Mar 8, 2011 7:05 AM PST reply actions  

Can't have a streaky Fernandez going into the playoffs

Shooting 6-12 one game, then combining for 5-19 the next 3. Start shooting 500 three balls/day if that what it takes, because this isnt funny anymore.

by zeusmith on Mar 8, 2011 7:06 AM PST up reply actions  

agree

part of the reason why Orlando stayed in the game it seemed was Rudy’s long chucks, I mean I really can’t pin point what happens to him. It’s wierd, the shot looks great coming out of his hands, he is square, he takes his time, but no good. One other thing about Rudy, the flopping on the floor like he’s dieing every time he takes a shot is getting old. Last night he was laying in the stands like he was stabbed. The gals next to him took a harder blow and they were laughing. Come on Rudy we need you to step up or you will soon be watching from the pines.

by MPP24 on Mar 8, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

FG%: 37.5

3-PT FG%: 33.9

PER: 14.1

Need more cowbell from Fernandez

by zeusmith on Mar 8, 2011 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

If he could at least get his shooting

Into the 42% FG/37% 3-PT shooting range, then combined with his defense, he becomes a good asset. But his current percentages – especially after the acquisition of Wallace – make it hard to justify a lasting presenceon the court. I’m surprised more people don’t complain about this.

by zeusmith on Mar 8, 2011 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Whethers wear bells

as do prize livestock who tend to wander … don’t like idea of Rudy being team’s bellwhether, smile … give him some Zulu horns for his goggles

by RandyinParadise on Mar 8, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Dave really covered what I've been feeling about Batum this year, and even last year. The shots he is missing are shots that I think

even your average NBA shooter would make half the time. I think if he could hit that shot at a 50 percent rate we would be a great team. There is no reason for Batum to miss that, Aldridge could hit those if he was left that open.

An open shot in the NBA is basically what NBA players practice for hours every day. I hear how Batum makes 20 in a row in warm ups. It really worries me that a guy with that good of a shooting form can be so inconsistant. Confidence is a huge issue with Batum and that will hold him back.

He needs to stay here in the summer and train with the guys that helped Aldridge. That Euro ball is trash, and it’s not doing Batum or Rudy any favors.

by BRoyInThe4th on Mar 8, 2011 7:37 AM PST reply actions  

It's a win, but barely

I don’t get the Batum thing, still. What do you guys see in him? He’s a serviceable NBA player, don’t get me wrong, but he’s probably a back-up on most teams. Yes, he’s still young and has time to improve. But meh.. His PER ranks him 24th among SF’s, slightly above Austin Daye (Wallace is 16th)

LMA hasn’t been the same since Roy/Camby came back which is sad to see. 3 rebounds vs. that undersized team w/o Howard is crap. He’s just not as aggressive as he was during his February run. I fear that change is permanent as long as he doesn’t feel he’s ‘the guy’. It’s too bad, i would’ve liked to see what this team could do with LMA going nuts every night.

I think Nate’s got his work cut out for him to compete in a first-round series. Too many pieces, too much uncertainty, and too little time.

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

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