"B Roy", "B Role", BeWare", or "B is in a funk"?

by robbybird22 on Mar 2, 2011 12:56 PM PST

As some of you know, or all of you know, there has been this "stat" flying around. In fact it is not even a stat. It is a "fact". But it is a very mis-construed fact, which is being thrown in the faces of Blazer Nation in an irresponsible fashion.....

Fact: The Blazers are 22-11 without Brandon Roy playing, and the Blazers are 11-16 with Brandon Roy playing. Fair enough. Suprised? Not really. He wasn't near 100%, nor is he now. The question is: "Is he hurting the team, and should he even be playing?"............I know what some responses will be that "We need to find out what he is worth going forward, NOW, considering his lengthy contract and all". But lets assume that isn't part of your thought process. Lets assume that this year is the LAST year of Blazer basketball on the face of this planet, and you are shaping this team and the rotation for ONE last playoff run. Is he hurting the team? Better yet, is he B Roy, B Role, BeWare, or B in a funk?

So I went off on a tangent. All I really wanted to do was provide some data that makes me not worry about those records with and without Roy playing;

1. Of the 33 games Roy did not play in, The Blazers were in fact favored to win 23 of them. Our actual record was 22-11.
2. Of the 27 games Roy did play in, The Blazers were in fact favored to win 15 of them. Our actual record was 11-16.
3. Of the 33 games Roy did not play in, 15 were against opponents with a record of plus .500. 45% of the games.
4. Of the 27 games Roy did play in, 20 were against opponents with a record of plus .500. 74% of the games.
5. The Blazers went on 2 "long" winning streaks without Roy. One was 5 games, the other was 6 games. 2 of those 11 teams were plus .500, and we beat them both at home.

In conclusion, I would label Brandon as "B Role" right now. Our early season schedule was very tough. More road games, tougher road swings, better competition. Beginning about 20 games ago the schedule got very easy. We ripped off 12 out of 16, with only 4 games vs. above .500 competition, than we just played 4 home games vs. above .500 competition, and lost 3 of them. We lost them because everyone "relaxed" thinking Roy, Camby, and Wallace were going to save the day. Not the case.

What would you label him as?

Robby

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Roy B Ware

This integration and strategy moving forward needs everyone’s input and buy-in to be successful. Roy and Nate’s approaches in particular will be instrumental in determining the success and buy-in of the team. It will take wise men to step correctly in this situation.

Faith applied reasonably is practical magic.

by Matthews vs Roy... Fight! on Mar 2, 2011 1:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

BRoy

by prof.mike on Mar 2, 2011 1:26 PM PST reply actions

Be Aware

It’s LaMarcus’ team now! I just wish Aldridge knew that. But really, I do wonder what effect it’s having on Lma’s brain to not be obviously the best guy on the team and the leader without doubt. I like B-roy, but now he’s got to be Robin and he might be used to being Batman.

by twggyy on Mar 2, 2011 2:32 PM PST reply actions

agreed

If this team is going to succeed it needs to play around LMA. He is the best player we currently have.

"AND THE GAME IS OVER! THE GAME IS OVER!! THE PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS HAVE WON THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!" Bill Schonely, game 6 of the NBA Finals, 1977 and 2011

by dirtboydave on Mar 2, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions

B Gone

He may have somethin to offer some other team in some other system but it does not work here. He’s an offensive player that relied on his athleticism to score. His athleticism is gone and we are left with a shell of a player. So as much as I hate to say it, I’d rather he go, which won’t happen, or ride the bench.

by JakeN1985 on Mar 2, 2011 3:14 PM PST reply actions

B Gone.

Brandon Roy had his best chance to figure out how to play with others when Andre Miller came to this team two years ago.

And he had his next best chance to learn how to play with others at the beginning of this season by figuring out what Andre needed from his shooting guard.

He passed up on both of these chances, in fact rather than make some effort to look at his own game and head, in both cases he backslapped Miller.

Now that BRoy is injured, his place on the team less secure with two new starters returning/acquired…Now is the worst time for him to try to adapt his game.

The Blazers are reaping what they’ve sown with Brandon.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Mar 2, 2011 3:15 PM PST reply actions

Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.

—Dave

by TheOdenator52 on Mar 2, 2011 4:01 PM PST reply actions

B Right Back?

by Norsktroll on Mar 2, 2011 5:15 PM PST reply actions

wow...

The team needs to hold each other accountable. All of these guys are adult professionals.
They need to play together with effort to the best of their ability, to WIN.
It would be nice if while doing this, they also have fun, enjoy themselves.
Roy is only going to affect this team to the degree that each and every one of them ALLOWS him to affect them.
I do think McMillan needs to stress ball movement and defense.
They need to live in the here and now. And move forward. For the good of the team and the season.
It would be great if McMillan can impart this knowledge to the team and it would be even better if they HEAR THIS MESSAGE AND ACT ON IT.

by Natsthecat on Mar 2, 2011 5:23 PM PST reply actions

I totally agree with you

This team must live in the moment and build on what they currently have. Any contributions in the next few years by Brandon and Oden are bonuses – they can’t wait for it. If you take Roy and Oden completely out of the picture they still have a very, very talented roster. LMA, Dre, We$, Nic, Crash, Camby, and Rudy still make up a very formitable roster.

"AND THE GAME IS OVER! THE GAME IS OVER!! THE PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS HAVE WON THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!" Bill Schonely, game 6 of the NBA Finals, 1977 and 2011

by dirtboydave on Mar 2, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions

Roy and Oden

The league’s finest, and highest paid suit models

by meRoy on Mar 2, 2011 8:26 PM PST reply actions

and ford truck salesmen

by meRoy on Mar 2, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions

Oh man...

The one where he does that laugh after saying “It’s good to be the best” makes me wince, but on the one where he is talking about the rear cam, I imagine that he is describing his new mech, and I’m in a good mood again.

Faith applied reasonably is practical magic.

by Matthews vs Roy... Fight! on Mar 2, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions

The one that makes me cringe

Is the one where Roy needs the help of the pole / handle thingy to climb into the bed of the truck.

Witty Unpredictable Talent and Natural Game

by iDea on Mar 3, 2011 12:52 AM PST up reply actions

yeah, what similar products will he be advertising next?

walkers?
canes?
wheelchairs?
The Clapper?

Win the day!

by Blzr fan on Mar 4, 2011 7:52 AM PST up reply actions

poll please.

The Faith don't panic, the Faith freaks out, burns out small farms and villages in the name of the Faith.

by faith on Mar 2, 2011 11:08 PM PST reply actions

He still can contribute a lot "in quality". "B in denial" is what worries me.

For example, when he recently said that he is sacrifying playing time, so everybody else should accept to make sacrifices too. Meaning: there are people complaining or in the way of in the locker-room; he doesn´t understand he is not making sacrifices, he just can not play more time than that he has been given already; and he still thinks he is the team leader.

by amlmart1 on Mar 3, 2011 4:14 AM PST reply actions

I agree with "B in Denial"

He still tries to beat his man with straight quickness now instead of ball control and mis direction. I guess his knees don’t let him change pace like he used to, but even when he was healthy he could not just out quick the D. He needs to be more of a shooter than try to break down his man and get to the hole. Take the pass, shoot it if you are open, or make a move and take the step back jumper. If he can’t get it off – MOVE THE BALL.

by LicketyBrindleDowntheMiddle on Mar 3, 2011 8:47 AM PST reply actions

i think you nailed it.

for roy to help this team get back on a role he needs to make quick decisions with the ball when he gets it.

either shoot, pass or make a quick move.

we shouldn’t have players “assessing” the defense for more than a couple of seconds every time they touch the ball. what it does is allow the defense to “assess” the fact that you’re not doing anything and reset.

even when roy was killing those isos, it always seemed like he really wanted to give the opposition a sporting chance.

okay, i’ll dribble for 5 seconds up top to make sure that you all realize that i have the ball and that i’m planning on making a move. now i’ll call for a pick to show you that this is an offensive play. but don’t worry, i won’t use the pick in any way, i’ll just sort of step to the side and backwards. that way i’ll draw an early double team so once i beat those two guys, there are only 3 guys left to beat afterwards!

by SaveOden on Mar 3, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions

substitute 21 seconds for 5 seconds above for the end of the game.

by SaveOden on Mar 3, 2011 9:16 AM PST up reply actions

dung "B"eetle...

…his game is crap

Pinching One Off, Peace

by p1nch3dLoaf on Mar 3, 2011 12:43 PM PST reply actions

Differing Perceptions is the Problem

BRoy, Nate, and to some degree, LMA, all think the correct term is “B_Right_Back”… as in, they are waiting for him to regain his former (IMO, never to be seen again) All-Star “B-Roy” Days… They all, IMO, “B-Denying” that Roy is done… Most fans realize it; which is why it’s so frustrating to see the Blazers do their best ostridge impression…

This team badly needs a formal leadership succession meeting, where BRoy, Nate, and LMA all sit in the room, and BRoy tells LMA “this is your team now”… It ain’t likely to happen, but we need to get LMA back to being the Beast of Burden for this team, and fast. His play has fallen more than anyone since the return of BRoy.

by Visionary2 on Mar 3, 2011 1:09 PM PST reply actions